---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/13/03: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:39 AM - Lexan Cleaning correction (Paul Petty) 2. 09:03 AM - west coast kolbs (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com) 3. 09:56 AM - Re: Gasoline (John Cooley) 4. 10:32 AM - Re: Gasoline (Paul Petty) 5. 11:10 AM - Re: west coast kolbs (John Hauck) 6. 11:34 AM - Re: Gasoline (Don Gherardini) 7. 01:20 PM - Re: west coast kolbs (John Hauck) 8. 01:26 PM - Re: Gasoline (Bob Bean) 9. 01:35 PM - Re: west coast kolbs (Larry Bourne) 10. 02:32 PM - Monument Valley Flight (WillUribe@aol.com) 11. 02:43 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (John Hauck) 12. 03:08 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (Larry Bourne) 13. 05:21 PM - Re: Gasoline - should be :Darwin award candidate (John Anderson) 14. 05:48 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (WillUribe@aol.com) 15. 06:36 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (Paul Petty) 16. 06:51 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (BILLBEAM@aol.com) 17. 07:30 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (John Hauck) 18. 07:38 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (WillUribe@aol.com) 19. 07:40 PM - email address change (boyd young) 20. 07:42 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (WillUribe@aol.com) 21. 07:47 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (Jim and Phyllis Hefner) 22. 07:56 PM - Re: Auto Parts (Timandjan@aol.com) 23. 08:16 PM - Re: Auto Parts (John Hauck) 24. 11:22 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (Larry Bourne) 25. 11:28 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flight (Larry Bourne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:40 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: Lexan Cleaning correction PORN_4, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Larry,Gang, I was calling from memory when I posted the site for the micro cleaning cloth. Here is the site for the ones I use and yes they work great! Not only on the Lexan but the whole plane. All you have to do is keep it damp. I keep mine in a plastic Ziploc bag and rinse it out with clear water from time to time. As for the sand and dust I recommend and use the original California Dash Duster. It is great for removing sand and dust and will not scratch Lexan or painted surface. If you can't find a source for these let me know. I sell them in my store and can ship them to you via UPS. http://www.cajuncleanall.com/ Paul the parts guy ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: west coast kolbs From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com 01/13/2003 12:02:32 PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Wayne Boyter et al: There are a few Kolb pilots out here on the west coast, though not a lot on our list. The 'problem' is the weather has been so nice (at least in southern California) that we are flying all the time. I live in the Santa Barbara area, flying out of Santa Ynez, if you want to stop buy and have a look. It is a really beautiful place to fly, especially now when the grass is green. Boyd, if you are listening, Im thinking about another Monument Valley attempt. Maybe this spring? Meet me in Moab! regards, Erich Weaver erich_weaver@urscorp.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:38 AM PST US From: "John Cooley" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gasoline --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" Hi Will / Gang, I usually try not to comment on gas questions, but on this one I felt I needed to. Kind of self defense I guess. I work in a large 300,000 barrel per day Chevron oil refinery in the Blending & Shipping section where gas is blended and loaded on trucks, ships and barges along with many other activities. We are in the top three or so volume wise of product loaded across the water and blend thousands of barrels of gas a day (can get the average numbers if needed). It is also shipped up a major pipeline system that goes all the way up the east coast. I can't speak for all refinery's but when we are blending a tank of gas there are no additives added to help boost octane. Different components or cuts from the crude oil have varying octane properties and different crudes yield different amounts of the components. Also there are different refining methods which yield higher octane components or more components that I don't have the experience or space to go into here. We have a very stringent set of guidelines that have to be met in order to sell any tank of gas. We have online analyzers to assist in making sure it is ontest but the major piece of equipment used for the octane rating is a set of engines that is used industry wide called Comoc engines. They have to be certified accurate by a trained technician using a gasoline with a known octane rating. When we blend a tank of gas the engines are being fed a steady stream of the gas being blended. The average of the entire blend has to meet the specification of the gas being blended. We currently blend 87 octane unleaded and 93 octane supreme and these two are mixed at a ratio to make the Plus grade gas with 89 octane. We also blend 100/130 avgas but that's a different ballgame all together. The gas we sell is sold from the average results from these engines. If it meets the octane specification for the grade being blended then nothing else is done for octane. We have a fully staffed Lab and there are many other specifications that have to be certified by them before the gas can be sold. If the average octane number is low, then a correction will be made to the tank of gas and the Lab has to run what we refer to as "manual motors" to establish the octane rating for that tank of gas. This is simply an average sample of the gas after the correction has been added to the tank, mixed thoroughly and run on a set of Comoc engines at the Lab. After all this the gas is either loaded on trucks, ships, barges or sent up the pipeline system. I have heard people many times swear that they wouldn't use a certain brand gas etc., but the fact is all gas comes from crude oil. We load gas on other major brands trucks, ships and barges. In other words you may be burning Exxon gas that was blended in a Chevron or BP refinery etc. The difference in the different brands is the additive package they use. Normally this is advertised as making your engine run cleaner etc. Don't know what everyone else calls their additive, but the Chevron additive is Techron. At our truck rack we have several different additive tanks for the different company's loading gas. The trucks have a card key that is inserted in a computer system and this tells the system what additive to add while the gas is being loaded onto the truck. All the gas loaded on ships and barges has the additive added elsewhere. I would like to emphasize again that I'm not a spokesperson for the industry. This is the basic method used in our refinery. Sorry this got so long winded. do not archive Take Care, John Cooley > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > I have been told the petroleum companies add additives to get a higher octane > ratings. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:50 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gasoline NAME_BRAND, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_IS_LIST, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Why did you stop John? Run out of gas? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cooley" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gasoline > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" > > Hi Will / Gang, > I usually try not to comment on gas questions, but on this one I felt I > needed to. Kind of self defense I guess. I work in a large 300,000 barrel > per day Chevron oil refinery in the Blending & Shipping section where gas is > blended and loaded on trucks, ships and barges along with many other > activities. We are in the top three or so volume wise of product loaded > across the water and blend thousands of barrels of gas a day (can get the > average numbers if needed). It is also shipped up a major pipeline system > that goes all the way up the east coast. I can't speak for all refinery's > but when we are blending a tank of gas there are no additives added to help > boost octane. Different components or cuts from the crude oil have varying > octane properties and different crudes yield different amounts of the > components. Also there are different refining methods which yield higher > octane components or more components that I don't have the experience or > space to go into here. We have a very stringent set of guidelines that have > to be met in order to sell any tank of gas. We have online analyzers to > assist in making sure it is ontest but the major piece of equipment used for > the octane rating is a set of engines that is used industry wide called > Comoc engines. They have to be certified accurate by a trained technician > using a gasoline with a known octane rating. When we blend a tank of gas the > engines are being fed a steady stream of the gas being blended. The average > of the entire blend has to meet the specification of the gas being blended. > We currently blend 87 octane unleaded and 93 octane supreme and these two > are mixed at a ratio to make the Plus grade gas with 89 octane. We also > blend 100/130 avgas but that's a different ballgame all together. The gas we > sell is sold from the average results from these engines. If it meets the > octane specification for the grade being blended then nothing else is done > for octane. We have a fully staffed Lab and there are many other > specifications that have to be certified by them before the gas can be sold. > If the average octane number is low, then a correction will be made to the > tank of gas and the Lab has to run what we refer to as "manual motors" to > establish the octane rating for that tank of gas. This is simply an average > sample of the gas after the correction has been added to the tank, mixed > thoroughly and run on a set of Comoc engines at the Lab. > After all this the gas is either loaded on trucks, ships, barges or sent > up the pipeline system. I have heard people many times swear that they > wouldn't use a certain brand gas etc., but the fact is all gas comes from > crude oil. We load gas on other major brands trucks, ships and barges. In > other words you may be burning Exxon gas that was blended in a Chevron or BP > refinery etc. The difference in the different brands is the additive package > they use. Normally this is advertised as making your engine run cleaner etc. > Don't know what everyone else calls their additive, but the Chevron additive > is Techron. At our truck rack we have several different additive tanks for > the different company's loading gas. The trucks have a card key that is > inserted in a computer system and this tells the system what additive to add > while the gas is being loaded onto the truck. All the gas loaded on ships > and barges has the additive added elsewhere. I would like to emphasize again > that I'm not a spokesperson for the industry. This is the basic method used > in our refinery. > Sorry this got so long winded. > > do not archive > > Take Care, > John Cooley > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > > > I have been told the petroleum companies add additives to get a higher > octane > > ratings. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:03 AM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: west coast kolbs --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > Boyd, if you are listening, Im thinking about another Monument Valley > attempt. Maybe this spring? Meet me in Moab! > > regards, > Erich Weaver Erich/Gents: Include me in on your Monument Valley Flight. Jim Heffner clued me in on his flight recently. He has been up there 6 times, but once with his Firestar. Let me see if I can find his web page. He has some nice shots of the Valley posted. I was there a couple Octobers ago, but on the ground. He says it is dramatically different (better) from the air in a Kolb. john h ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:34 AM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gasoline --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" John, Very informative post, and thankyou very much ! Maybe you can help me with some info that has bet put forward to me in my biz. (I am a sales rep or an engine manufacturer) In the engine biz, gasoline questions come up very often! Do I understand that ALL the gasoline sold in the united states at retail must conform to the standards regulated by the US government?,, and that in the formulas for making gasoline, there are mandated "recipies" that all refineries must use as mandated? Any additive packages requested by a "retailing company" must be from the approved list? I have believed that gasoline is similiar to prescription drugs, and no matter what the brand label, there are only certain recipies and ingredients that may be used. About the only thing I know for sure, is that in the mandated :"reformulated gas areas" the gasoline is indeed changed from a summer blend to a winter blend according to law, and that can cause starting problems if you use a summer "reformulated gasoline" in the winter. I believe it has to do with reed vapor pressures and outside air temps which cause the gasoline in low compression ratio 4 strokes(8 to 1)to be very hard to start. I am not sure that this would be the case with a 2 cycle, as they usually are of a higher compression ratio and might work on it. Your info might make me more(or less) confidant in believing what I think I know!!!!! Don Gherardini ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:40 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: west coast kolbs --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > Let me see if I can find his web page. > He has some nice shots of Monument Valley posted. > john h Gang: Here tis. Hope you don't mind sharing with the entire Kolb List Family: http://groups.msn.com/HefnersFamilySite/monumentvalleytrip.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=741 john h ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:31 PM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gasoline --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean John, don't apologize....this subject is usually clouded with folklore and hearsay. It's good to hear some real facts. One extra question: I've read somewhere that the vapor pressure is adjusted for the season or climate that the juice will be used in. -Higher VP for cold weather, etc. What's the truth to this? -BB John Cooley wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" > >Hi Will / Gang, >I usually try not to comment on gas questions, but on this one I felt I >needed to. > > >Sorry this got so long winded. > >do not archive > >Take Care, >John Cooley > > > > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com >> >> > > > > >>I have been told the petroleum companies add additives to get a higher >> >> >octane > > >>ratings. >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:01 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: west coast kolbs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" What a perspective ! ! ! I took some nice shots of the southern 25 miles of Monument Valley last summer, and they are very pretty, but not like that. Thanks Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: west coast kolbs > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > > > > Let me see if I can find his web page. > > He has some nice shots of Monument Valley posted. > > john h > > Gang: > > Here tis. Hope you don't mind sharing with the > entire Kolb List Family: > > http://groups.msn.com/HefnersFamilySite/monumentvalleytrip.msnw?action=ShowP hoto&PhotoID=741 > > john h > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:32:06 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com In my FireStar it's only a day flight from El Paso to Monument Valley. If I can work it in my schedule count me in. Right now I'm working in Mississippi next week I'll be in Arizona and then two weeks in California. But I may be able to work around my projects so I can make it to the Monument Valley fly-in. I'm sure Dave Rains would love to go and maybe Raul in his FireStar. Our FlightStar driver has been talking about going so he may want to go and we have a new X Air driver we my persuade to go. Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: west coast kolbs > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > > > > Boyd, if you are listening, Im thinking about another Monument Valley > > attempt.=A0 Maybe this spring?=A0 Meet me in Moab! > > > > regards, > >=A0 Erich Weaver > > Erich/Gents: > > Include me in on your Monument Valley Flight.=A0 Jim > Heffner clued me in on his flight recently.=A0 He > has been up there 6 times, but once with his > Firestar.=A0 Let me see if I can find his web page. > He has some nice shots of the Valley posted.=A0 I > was there a couple Octobers ago, but on the > ground.=A0 He says it is dramatically different > (better) from the air in a Kolb. > > john h ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:20 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > In my FireStar it's only a day flight from El Paso to Monument Valley. > I'm sure Dave Rains would love to > go and maybe Raul in his FireStar. Our FlightStar driver has been talking > about going so he may want to go and we have a new X Air driver we my > persuade to go. > > Regards, > Will Uribe Hi Will/Gents: Only takes one to fly and two to have a flyin. We already got more than that, so lets start working on a date? Since I am a Southeasterner, I will be the guest. Primarily cause I don't know s__t about the West, other than it is very big, very high (in places) and has a lot of sharp pointy rocks. Also very dry most of the time and the wind can blown like no where else. What did I leave out? I am serious about packing the bags, loading the MK III and heading westerly........... Need to do it before it gets to hot, like before June? I am only suggesting, cause I am not that familiar with you all's side of America. Let's get it together. Jim Heffner can clue us in on the airstrip/camp ground he and his family stayed at. Maybe there are others that would like to drive and pull their Kolbs. How about all you RVers on the List? There is a bunch of you guys. Ready to dig out my maps and water bottles. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:59 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Now, There's Inspiration. Get 'er together Lar..................sure would be fun ! ! ! Gogittum Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > > > > In my FireStar it's only a day flight from El Paso to Monument Valley. > > I'm sure Dave Rains would love to > > go and maybe Raul in his FireStar. Our FlightStar driver has been talking > > about going so he may want to go and we have a new X Air driver we my > > persuade to go. > > > > Regards, > > Will Uribe > > Hi Will/Gents: > > Only takes one to fly and two to have a flyin. We > already got more than that, so lets start working > on a date? > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:37 PM PST US From: "John Anderson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gasoline - should be :Darwin award candidate --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Anderson" ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gasoline > NTSB Identification: ANC03CA009 > > accident occurred Friday, November 01, 2002 at Chugiak, AK > Aircraft:Arima Kolb Fire Star II, registration: N8199 > Injuries: 1 Uninjured. > snip< > > On November 1, 2002, about 1345 Alaska standard time, a wheel-equipped > experimental homebuilt Arima Kolb Fire Star II airplane, N8199, sustained > substantial damage when it struck trees during a forced landing after takeoff > from the Birchwood Airport, Chugiak, Alaska. The airplane was being operated > as a visual flight rules (VFR) local area personal flight under Title 14, CFR > Part 91, when the accident occurred. The airplane was operated by the pilot. > The solo certificated private pilot was not injured. Visual meteorological > conditions prevailed. The flight originated at the Birchwood Airport, about > 1300. > > During a telephone conversation with the National Transportation Safety Board > (NTSB) investigator-in-charge on November 1, the pilot reported that the > accident airplane had been stored outside, and had not been utilized within > the last two years. STORED OUTSIDE AND NOT UTILIZED FOR TWO YEARS > He added that just prior to the accident, he had > accomplished two successful touch-and-go landings on runway 19R. He said that > during the third touch-and-go landing roll, he added power for another > takeoff. As the airplane climbed to about 50 feet above the runway, he said > the engine, a Rotax 503, suddenly lost significant power, and he selected a > forced landing area ahead of the airplane. During the forced landing, the > airplane collided with several trees. The airplane sustained substantial > damage to the wings, fuselage, and empennage. > > On November 1, a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) operations inspector, > Anchorage Flight Standards District Office, traveled to the accident airport > to inspect the airplane. The inspector reported that during a postaccident > inspection, both carburetor float bowls were found to contain murky, silty, > and rust-colored fuel. RUST COLORED FUEL AND STORED OUTSIDE FOR TWO YEARS AND HE TRIED TO FLY IT ?????????? This moron is lucky to be alive, do I think this is a fuel problem? No I call it a head space problem - the space between this guys ears !!!! -JA do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:36 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com Larry, So that means you'll have your MK III ready by spring, ready for the Monument Valley Flight? It's a great place to go flying, check out the picture. http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/assets/images/01DSCF0010-lg.gif Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > Now, There's Inspiration.=A0 Get 'er together Lar..................sure would > be fun ! ! !=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Gogittum Lar.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Do not Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Kolb Mk III - Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hauck" > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > > > > > > > In my FireStar it's only a day flight from El Paso to Monument Valley. > > > I'm sure Dave Rains would love to > > > go and maybe Raul in his FireStar.=A0 Our FlightStar driver has been > talking > > > about going so he may want to go and we have a new X Air driver we my > > > persuade to go. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Will Uribe > > > > Hi Will/Gents: > > > > Only takes one to fly and two to have a flyin.=A0 We > > already got more than that, so lets start working > > on a date? > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:24 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJECT_IS_LIST, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Dates please, We may buzzz over in the RV8.. Do not archive pp.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > Larry, > So that means you'll have your MK III ready by spring, ready for the Monument > Valley Flight? > It's a great place to go flying, check out the picture. > http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/assets/images/01DSCF0010-lg.gif > > Regards, > Will Uribe > El Paso, TX > FireStar II N4GU > C-172 N2506U > http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > > > Now, There's Inspiration.=A0 Get 'er together Lar..................sure would > > be fun ! ! !=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Gogittum Lar.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Do not Archive. > > > > Larry Bourne > > Palm Springs, CA > > Kolb Mk III - Vamoose > > www.gogittum.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Hauck" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > > > > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > > > > > > > > > > In my FireStar it's only a day flight from El Paso to Monument Valley. > > > > I'm sure Dave Rains would love to > > > > go and maybe Raul in his FireStar.=A0 Our FlightStar driver has been > > talking > > > > about going so he may want to go and we have a new X Air driver we my > > > > persuade to go. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Will Uribe > > > > > > Hi Will/Gents: > > > > > > Only takes one to fly and two to have a flyin.=A0 We > > > already got more than that, so lets start working > > > on a date? > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:51 PM PST US From: BILLBEAM@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: BILLBEAM@aol.com Hey folks. Any one looking for a great Nav/Com radio at a cheap price? Check out the Bendix KX 99 I'm running on eBay. eBay item 3000484261 (Ends Jan-19-03 10:32:54 PST ) - Bendix/King KX99 navcom t Thanks Bill 308 Jessamine Station Road Wilmore, Kentucky 40390 Phone: 859-858-3168 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:36 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > It's a great place to go flying, check out the picture. > http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/assets/images/01DSCF0010-lg.gif > > Regards, > Will Uribe Will/Gents: Is that Goulding Lodge Airport? john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:05 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > > > > It's a great place to go flying, check out the picture. > > http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/assets/images/01DSCF0010-lg.gif > > > > Regards, > > Will Uribe > > Will/Gents: > > Is that Goulding Lodge Airport? > > john h Yes Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:50 PM PST US From: "boyd young" Subject: Kolb-List: email address change --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" for all who keep a list of email addresses...... note a change.... by0ung@brigham.net is my new address. boyd young ps my web pages should remain the same. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:55 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com Will/Gents: > > Is that Goulding Lodge Airport? > > john h Here is the webpage http://www.gouldings.com/finding.htm Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:00 PM PST US From: "Jim and Phyllis Hefner" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim and Phyllis Hefner" John, Will and others: Seeing the interest in a flyin at Monument Valley gets me excited to do it again!I did it this past mid May, which was perfect temps and an ideal time to go. Early mornings were calm and winds died in the evening for sunset flights.Will and Dave also flew out of Gouldings Lodge airstrip like I did. My daughter and I camped in my trailer up in their campground, which is outstanding, with all facilities - $25/night. I calledup thereand requested permission to use their private strip and faxed them a letter for their file, effectively relieving them of any liability responsibility, which is all they really wanted, even though they asked for copies of liability insurance, etc. Having a bunch of guys from all over, come together up therewould be a blast!!! John, glad to see you're ready to go!! Any other info needed or Q's anyone has, let me know. Here's a link to my website to wet your whistle if you're on the fence. Click next to see more when you get there. http://groups.msn.com/HefnersFamilySite/monumentvalleytrip.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=741 Jim Hefner Tucson, AZ FF#022 ==================================== Hi Will/Gents: Only takes one to fly and two to have a flyin. We already got more than that, so lets start working on a date? Since I am a Southeasterner, I will be the guest. Primarily cause I don't know s__t about the West, other than it is very big, very high (in places) and has a lot of sharp pointy rocks. Also very dry most of the time and the wind can blown like no where else. What did I leave out? I am serious about packing the bags, loading the MK III and heading westerly........... Need to do it before it gets to hot, like before June? I am only suggesting, cause I am not that familiar with you all's side of America. Let's get it together. Jim Heffner can clue us in on the airstrip/camp ground he and his family stayed at. Maybe there are others that would like to drive and pull their Kolbs. How about all you RVers on the List? There is a bunch of you guys. Ready to dig out my maps and water bottles. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:41 PM PST US From: Timandjan@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Auto Parts --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com Used the information you sent me about the push pull cables, thanks. Do you have any knowledge on Napa parts for the VW Thing, typw 181, 1973 model. Looking for front and rear shocks and new tie rod ends, specifically the drivers outside. Know this is not a Kolb question, but can't fly all the time. Gotta tinker on some of the other projects. Thanks Tim ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:13 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Auto Parts --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > Know this is not a Kolb question, but can't fly all the time. Gotta tinker on > some of the other projects. > > Thanks > > Tim Hi Tim/Gents: I'm not the List moderator, wouldn't want the job if you paid me for it. However, I think I would have to ask myself if the post was of interest to the rest of the gang on the Kolb List. Personally, I have no interest in VW Things. This shoulda gone bc to Paul Petty, or whoever you intended to receive it. If you look at that, intended for one person, it only makes sense to send it to him and not the other couple hundred or so folks on the Kolb List. Also, I think if it has no value for the future in the Kolb List Archives, it should have the notation of DO NOT ARCHIVE at the bottom of the post. I think a lot of us have been a little lax at what we have been posting. I know I am guilty and gonna try a little harder. Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:17 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Vamoose is back together, re-drive on, and ready for the prop; new fuel lines installed; fuel tank, ready for re-start; (hopefully) and will be making the trip up to the covering shop in Yucca Valley next Monday. I can't believe how much "hangar rash" the tail feathers have already sustained. Amazing, since it hasn't even seen a hangar yet. (I still haven't decided for sure if Vamoose is a "he," "she," or "it.") Wings, flaps, and ailerons are already up there; finished, waiting for me, and ready for the hinges. I also published 2 pics of the door lexan on photoshare yesterday, looking for words of wisdom from you guys. C'mon, Matt ! ! ! When the guy in Yuckey Valley is done covering the fuselage, (pod ??) it'll be ready for new doors, (probably), final assembly, and a visit from the FAA man. I guess I'm a gonna hafta start digging around, getting the paperwork ready. Finally..............starting to feel the good ol' GoGittum feeling again. 'Bout bloody time ! ! ! This past year has been a long 'un. Wore Out Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > Larry, > So that means you'll have your MK III ready by spring, ready for the Monument > Valley Flight? > It's a great place to go flying, check out the picture. > http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/assets/images/01DSCF0010-lg.gif > > Regards, > Will Uribe > El Paso, TX > FireStar II N4GU ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:58 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Don't know what happened, but my copy says "fuel tank & system flushed"....................????? Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flight > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > Vamoose is back together, re-drive on, and ready for the prop; new fuel > lines installed; fuel tank, ready for re-start; > (hopefully) and will be making the trip up to the covering shop in Yucca > Valley next Monday. I can't believe how much "hangar rash" the tail > feathers have already sustained. Amazing, since it hasn't even seen a