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1. 04:55 AM - John retired as List Sheriff... (Jim Gerken)
2. 05:21 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 32 Msgs - 01/15/03 (WillUribe@aol.com)
3. 05:56 AM - Re: Landing gear (John Hauck)
4. 06:08 AM - Re: John retired as List Sheriff... (John Hauck)
5. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 32 Msgs - 01/15/03 (John Hauck)
6. 07:10 AM - Re: gas tanks (Peter Volum)
7. 07:58 AM - foreign words (GeoR38@aol.com)
8. 08:07 AM - Re: 800x6 Tires on 3" Wide Wheels??? (H MITCHELL)
9. 09:15 AM - Re: gas tanks (CaptainRon)
10. 09:28 AM - Re: gas tanks (CaptainRon)
11. 10:16 AM - Re: foreign words (bob n)
12. 10:31 AM - Headset (VIC)
13. 11:01 AM - Re: gas tanks (John Hauck)
14. 11:28 AM - Re: gas tanks (John Hauck)
15. 01:09 PM - Re: gas tanks (Jack & Louise Hart)
16. 01:27 PM - monument valley (boyd young)
17. 02:58 PM - Re: Monument Valley (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
18. 03:18 PM - Re: gas tanks (Duncan McBride)
19. 05:16 PM - Re: gas tanks (CaptainRon)
20. 05:56 PM - Re: gas tanks (Peter Volum)
21. 06:58 PM - Re: gas tanks (Jack & Louise Hart)
22. 09:39 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | John retired as List Sheriff... |
01/16/2003 06:53:42 AM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" <gerken@us.ibm.com>
>Time: 06:47:09 AM PST US
>From: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> I think maybe you chase the momason that I use to.
>I was on Nui Bad Den Spring and Summer 1966.
>Spent a lot of time trying to hitch hike from Tay
>Ninh East to the mountain. Especially when I had
>fresh chow for CIDG or frozen chow from Commissary
>in Cholon. Was always a challenge.
>Take care,
>john h
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
I just can't resist. It isn't often a mere mortal can best his god.
John, I guess you can't do any more preaching about "not Kolb related",
since I am only a quarter way through todays' digest and have come across
your SECOND NON-KOLB RELATED POST OF THE DAY.
Thanks for
do not archive
at least.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 32 Msgs - 01/15/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Hi John,
Please translate, I have no idea what the following words mean. Being a
civilian all my life I'm not familiar with military lingo.
Hey...I do know what Tango Uniform means kaputt, utterly finished, defeated
or unable to function
Here are the words;
Momason
Nui Bad Den
Tay Ninh
CIDG
Cholon
Thanks,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <<A HREF"mailto:jhauck@sw.rr.com">jhauck@sw.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <<A HREF"mailto:jhauck@sw.rr.com">jhauck@sw.rr.com>
>
>
> > I think maybe you chase the momason that I use to.
>
> I was on Nui Bad Den Spring and Summer 1966.
> Spent a lot of time trying to hitch hike from Tay
> Ninh East to the mountain.=A0 Especially when I had
> fresh chow for CIDG or frozen chow from Commissary
> in Cholon.=A0 Was always a challenge.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> John and others,
> Would taller tires help raise the Mk-3 up into a little more aggressive
> stance?
> Denny
Denny/Gang:
Sure. Take a big ole tire to do much good
though. :-)
john h
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| Subject: | Re: John retired as List Sheriff... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> John, I guess you can't do any more preaching about "not Kolb related",
> since I am only a quarter way through todays' digest and have come across
> your SECOND NON-KOLB RELATED POST OF THE DAY.
>Jim Gerkin
Jim/Gents:
Thanks for the informtion.
Looks like the above is your first non-Kolb
related post of the day. :-)
I took the freedom to sign your name to it, since
you didn't. :-)
Next time, don't forget to put DO NOT ARCHIVE at
the bottom. :-)
I thought the reason we put DO NOT ARCHIVE at the
bottom was so that post would not go into the
archives because it was not Kolb related. Maybe I
missed the point again. But I am sure Jim will
correct me if I make the same mistake. Thanks.
I hope you feel as good this morning as I do!
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 32 Msgs - 01/15/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> Nui Bad Den
> Tay Ninh
> CIDG
> Cholon
>
> Thanks,
> Will Uribe
Will/Gents:
Sorry about that!
The post was intended to go bc.
Will give you personalized tutoring in VN era GI
slang next time I am in El Paso.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Do I understand from this that your Hirth burns 7 gallons per hour??!!
I can remain aloft for about 4 hours on 10 gallons with my Rotax 912 at
a cruise of about 60mph. I say "about" because after two hours aloft
I've seldom used up more than half of my fuel before landing to take
care of the "other" tank (bladder) and to stretch legs.
Is the Hirth THAT much less efficient than the 912? Or are you planning
to fly at full gross and Vne the entire time?
P.
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
I just got kit number two. I looked at the plastic tanks 2 of them. No
need
for baffles on the factory set up. They are fairly narrow sitting
upright,
so sloshing and unporting should not be a concern.
I am following this with interest as well, I think I may opt to install
a
custom 15 gallon tank. The Hirth on a full head of steam will give me
about
2 hours on 15 gallons. The 10 gallon factory set up is not enough for
any
serious cross country flying. I see no problem in cutting the guide rods
that hold the tanks in place, they do not seem to serve any stractural
purpose. One big tank would do just fine. I think uncle Hauck has a
larger
tank in his bird. Can't remember the capacity though.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 1/16/03 8:21:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
WillUribe@aol.com writes:
>
> Hi John,
> Please translate, I have no idea what the following words mean. Being a
> civilian all my life I'm not familiar with military lingo.
> Hey...I do know what Tango Uniform means kaputt, utterly finished, defeated
> or unable to function
> Here are the words;
> Momason
> Nui Bad Den
> Tay Ninh
> CIDG
> Cholon
>
> Thanks,
> Will Uribe
> El Paso, TX
> FireStar II N4GU
> C-172 N2506U
> http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List:
>
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> >
> >
> >>I think maybe you chase the momason that I use to.
> >
> >I was on Nui Bad Den Spring and Summer 1966.
> >Spent a lot of time trying to hitch hike from Tay
> >Ninh East to the mountain.=A0 Especially when I had
> >fresh chow for CIDG or frozen chow from Commissary
> >in Cholon.=A0 Was always a challenge.
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >john h
>
Don't feel bad, Will, the only one I know is momason...."your female interest
at the time"...an ol carryover from Okinawa when I was there( 1957,
58...USAF), or maybe even before that....no war, except when we would scuffle
with the navy or marines.
George Randolph
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| Subject: | Re: 800x6 Tires on 3" Wide Wheels??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Tom et al,
Just make sure you check tire pressure as a part of your preflight. I tried to
make my landings a little softer by lowering the air pressure in my tires and
was embarrassed when the tire-to-rim seal blew during a touchdown on an asphalt
runway. I spent the rest of the fly-in looking for a replacement tube. The ultimate
solution is to learn how to land a little better and keep the tire pressure
up to where there is very little bulge as she sits on the tarmac These were
Azusa 8" Aluminum wheels with 480/400x8 tubes/tires.
Never stop learning,
Duane the plane Mitchell, FireFly SN 007, 447, Ivo, 132.8 Hrs.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Olenik
Subject: Kolb-List: 800x6 Tires on 3" Wide Wheels???
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom Olenik" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
Hi guys,
I was wondering if anyone out there has run the 800x6 Titan Turf Glide
"Tundra" tire on the fairly narrow 3" wide wheels. I have been using the 4"
wide Azusa wheels which works just fine, but I would sort of like to use the
Zytel wheels to lighten it up and they only come in 3" wide. If you have
run them on the 3" wide aluminum wheels, I would like to hear about it as
well since those are the same dimensions as the Zytel wheels. I know it
will fit and inflate on that wheel because I have done it, but has anyone
flown with that combination? My only concern is that the tire bead might
pop off the wheel on a hard landing.
Thanks,
Tom Olenik
Olenik Aviation
http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
> Ron/Gang:
>
> 25 gal usable, baffled, vented out the bottom of
> the fuselage, drained from the lowest point
> (center rear), sight gauge, .050 5052 aluminum,
> finger strainer, homemade water seperator and fuel
> shut off valve.
>
> Originally designed for the 582 installation, 5 to
> 5.5 gph. Worked great with the 912, 4 gph. Still
> working well with the 912S, 5 gph. ====================================
========================================
Do you have a photo of it, or a drawing. A man can always put less fuel, but
he can't put more than the tanks can hold. :-)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
1/16/03 8:09Peter Volum
> Is the Hirth THAT much less efficient than the 912? Or are you planning
> to fly at full gross and Vne the entire time?
====================
Its the nature of two cycle engines to burn gas at about twice the rate of a
four cycle engine for same HP. Go to the Hirth site and take a look at their
fuel burn rates at 100HP. It aint pretty! Of course I have no intention of
runing the sucker at full bore all the time, but if I do I want some range
out of it. Take a look at their tables.
******* http://www.recpower.com/f302c11.htm *****
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| Subject: | Re: foreign words |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bob n <ronoy@shentel.net>
Momason, or more likely(?) Mamasan, a made-up word, originated with GIs
in Japan after end of WWII--hence the "san" at end, a term of
respect----also papasan, etc.
Bob N.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "VIC" <vicw@vcn.com>
A pilot friend gave me a Telex E-951 headset and I would like to connect it
to my ICOM IC-A22 portable Navicom. I am currently living in my motorhome
out in the Arizona desert and don't have any of my supply catalogs. Anyone
know where I can find a patch cable or does anyone have a connection diagram
so I can go to Radio Shack and make my own connection.
Vic
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> I can remain aloft for about 4 hours on 10 gallons with my Rotax 912 at
> a cruise of about 60mph.
> Is the Hirth THAT much less efficient than the 912?
> P.
Peter/Gang:
I discovered there is considerable difference
between fuel burn playing around the patch than
there is on a cross country flight.
My 912 burned 4.0 gph at 5,000 rpm, 4.25 at 5,200,
and 4.5 at 5,400 rpm. These figures were verified
on long cross country flights.
Makes a lot of difference in fuel burn when the
throttle is set and forgotten at cruise, than it
does when we are taking off, landing, loafing
around the airport.
582 on my MK III:
5,800 rpm cruise equaled 5.0 gph.
912S at 5,000 equals 5.0 gph.
5,200 equals 5.5 gph.
I'm happy.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> Do you have a photo of it, or a drawing.
Ron/Gang:
Have no drawings. It is one of a kind. Brother
Jim designed, built a prototype out of cardboard,
fitted it into the fuselage by cutting a couple
diagonal tube braces on the upper rear side.
It was designed and built to fit the shape of the
upper rear inclosure.
I'll see if I can find a pic and put it on my
index page.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 10:24 AM 1/16/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
>
>1/16/03 8:09Peter Volum
>
>> Is the Hirth THAT much less efficient than the 912? Or are you planning
>> to fly at full gross and Vne the entire time?
>====================
>
>Its the nature of two cycle engines to burn gas at about twice the rate of a
>four cycle engine for same HP. Go to the Hirth site and take a look at their
>fuel burn rates at 100HP. It aint pretty! Of course I have no intention of
>runing the sucker at full bore all the time, but if I do I want some range
>out of it. Take a look at their tables.
>
>
>******* http://www.recpower.com/f302c11.htm *****
>
CaptainRon & Others,
The above statement may not necessarily be true for reed valve engines. Simonini
makes a 100 hp 2-cycle two cylinder engine, that is basically a twin of the
Victor 1+. Maximum fuel flow rate on the Victor 1+ is 2.75 gph, so this engine
should develop 100 hp using 5.5 gph with the Hirth using 8.7 gph. The difference
is the benefit of reed valve induction and a great exhaust system.
Out of curiosity, I checked the Rotax web site and found the 912ul at 83 hp burns
6 gph, the 912uls at 98 hp burns 7+ gph and the 914ul at 100 hp burns 8.3 gph.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
kolbers.... last night i sent erich the following message about monument
valley.
==========
Erich
I was thinking of may 19 - 20 th that would give people a weekend plus a
day to get there... and plan for the whole week and weekend to see the
sights and get home....
how does that sound???
===========
he responded
=============
Well, I guess that settles it. You are official trip leader
May 19 works for me. Got a plan regarding a support vehicles? If everyone
goes that says they are going Im sure there will be plenty at Monument
valley, but it sure is nice to do whatever YOU want and not be tied to
others.
stay in touch...
Erich Weaver
===============
so it looks like may 19 is the day..... mark it on your calandars....
now about this trip leader thing..... it seems that things got started when
erich invited me to go with him.....for erich's bennifit i quote
"Boyd, if you are listening, Im thinking about another Monument Valley
attempt. Maybe this spring? Meet me in Moab!" so i guess we can all
agree that erich is the real leader.
much planing ahead, c u all there.
boyd do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
AAaarghh - I'm so frustrated!
All this chatter about a trip to Monument Valley, which is only a couple of
hours flying distance from me, and, as much as I REALLY wanna go, I likely
will NOT be able to join you all.
Reason - I probably won't be done flying off my obligatory 40 hours in my
newly-finished Mark-3 by early-summer.
If any of you plan on passing thru the Albuquerque area, please let me know.
We can feed ya, put you up for a night, and I can recommend a UL-friendly
airport to RON at.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, with less than 5 hours of flying time in
Cedar Crest, New Mexico
(505) 281-0873
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Hey Peter,
I've just 24.7 hours on 319DM and I'm still playing around with the
pitot/static location so I'm not sure, but it seems to me I'm getting around
60MPH at 4400 rpm. According to the manual that's roughly equivalent to 50%
power, more or less, depending. I'm using the IVO three-blade. What prop
and rpm are you using to get 2.5gph at 60mph? I'm not sure I'm getting
quite that mileage, but it's in the ballpark. I'm like you, a 2-hour leg is
just long enough. Hope to get over your way soon.
Duncan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: gas tanks
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
>
> I can remain aloft for about 4 hours on 10 gallons with my Rotax 912 at
> a cruise of about 60mph. I say "about" because after two hours aloft
> I've seldom used up more than half of my fuel before landing to take
> care of the "other" tank (bladder) and to stretch legs.
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
1/16/03 14:07Jack & Louise Hart
> Out of curiosity, I checked the Rotax web site and found the 912ul at 83 hp
> burns 6 gph, the 912uls at 98 hp burns 7+ gph and the 914ul at 100 hp burns
> 8.3 gph.
========================
Thanks you just made me feel better. :-) Still 10 gallons aint enough. do
you have a web $ite for the Simonini?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Hello Duncan. I have a three bladed Warp drive on mine. I must admit I
haven't analyzed my rate of fuel burn very scientifically. I just know
that there's no need to look at the level within the first couple of
hours of flight, and if I fill up after two hours, one 5 gallon tank is
all I need to top off. John is right though, my flying is mostly all
"around the patch", and for me that includes time over water during
which I enjoy slowing down.
At 60mph my RPM is also around 4400 or slightly lower flying solo.
By the way, I placed two static ports in mine (joined by a "T" at the
gauge), one on each side of the "clamshell" opening that the nosecone
creates where it overlaps the sides of the cage. I did this based on a
recommendation from somebody on the list, and it has worked perfectly
since day one. I always get an accurate reading as verified with the
GPS on calm days, and my stalls always occur at the same indicated
airspeed.
Consider yourself very welcome to come down to this corner of Florida
any time. You may want to check our web site calendar before doing so in
order to plan your visit during a flying event week-end. (www.lafa.com)
Take care,
Peter
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Duncan
McBride
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: gas tanks
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride
<duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Hey Peter,
I've just 24.7 hours on 319DM and I'm still playing around with the
pitot/static location so I'm not sure, but it seems to me I'm getting
around
60MPH at 4400 rpm. According to the manual that's roughly equivalent to
50%
power, more or less, depending. I'm using the IVO three-blade. What
prop
and rpm are you using to get 2.5gph at 60mph? I'm not sure I'm getting
quite that mileage, but it's in the ballpark. I'm like you, a 2-hour
leg is
just long enough. Hope to get over your way soon.
Duncan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: gas tanks
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
>
> I can remain aloft for about 4 hours on 10 gallons with my Rotax 912
at
> a cruise of about 60mph. I say "about" because after two hours aloft
> I've seldom used up more than half of my fuel before landing to take
> care of the "other" tank (bladder) and to stretch legs.
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 06:12 PM 1/16/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
>
>1/16/03 14:07Jack & Louise Hart
>
>> Out of curiosity, I checked the Rotax web site and found the 912ul at 83 hp
>> burns 6 gph, the 912uls at 98 hp burns 7+ gph and the 914ul at 100 hp burns
>> 8.3 gph.
>========================
>
>Thanks you just made me feel better. :-) Still 10 gallons aint enough. do
>you have a web $ite for the Simonini?
>
>Do not archive
CaptionRon,
You can find web jumps to Simoni and Speedwing listed on:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly.html
John,
I thought it was quite clear that my response focused on a general statement that
2-cycle engines burn twice as much fuel as 4-cycle engines. The first way
to compare fuel consumption rates is to pick the same horsepower for different
engines. The most fun way is to fly them all on the same plane, but few of us
have that option. The only 4-cycle engines I could readily come up with fuel
consumption data was from Rotax. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
do not archive
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Well, get on it, Dennis....................start flying, and c'mon. Bob
Bean & I went up to the high desert today, and checked out Vamoose' wings.
The guy's done a beautiful job, and is all set to start on the fuselage next
week. C'mon, guy, if Slowpoke Lar can do it, so can you................! !
! Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> AAaarghh - I'm so frustrated!
>
> All this chatter about a trip to Monument Valley, which is only a couple
of
> hours flying distance from me, and, as much as I REALLY wanna go, I likely
> will NOT be able to join you all.
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