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                           Kolb-List Digest Archive
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                     Total Messages Posted Tue 01/21/03: 7
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Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:12 AM - Check out FUEL TANKS BELOW DECK PLASTIC  (Airgriff2@aol.com)
     2. 06:07 AM - Mk-3 elevator trim  ()
     3. 07:39 AM - Re: Mk-3 elevator trim  (Larry Bourne)
     4. 07:49 AM - Heat  (Larry Bourne)
     5. 09:45 AM - Re: Mk-3 elevator trim  ()
     6. 09:51 AM - Re: Mk-3 elevator trim  (Richard Pike)
     7. 09:51 AM - Re: Heat  ()
 
 
 
________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 04:12:47 AM PST US
From: Airgriff2@aol.com
Subject: Kolb-List: Check out FUEL TANKS BELOW DECK PLASTIC

--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com

 <A HREF="http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/FUELTANKOKASTICBELOWDECK.htm">FUEL TANKS
BELOW DECK PLASTIC                                                
               <A HREF="http://www.speedwaymotors.com/product.asp?strBase%5FList=&hilt=&source=2192&base%5Fno=91076050&str%5Fbase%5Fno=0000%2DCATALOG%2C387CP12%2C458108%2C4581208%2C458208%2C45820810%2C458357%2C458359%2C458364%2C458890%2C473500%2C6007050A%2C6175020%2C91016755%2C91016756%2C91076050%2C91076062%2C91076063%2C91076064%2C91076065%2C&header%5Ftitle=%2DTanks+%26+Caps&page%5Fname=prod%5Flist%5Fdisplay%2Easp&search%5Ftype=L2%7E419&search%5Foption=&deptsearch=&dept%5Fid=L2%7E419&dept%5Fid%5Fp=&dept%5Fname=&dept%5Fname%5Fp=&size1=&size2=&gender=&ShowImages=yes&sq=0&cont=1&intPgNo=1&mscssid=8GXH0BUE13P58LB910JG1UCFVBL8FB47">Speedway
Motors: Product: 'Street Rod Fuel Cell

Here are a couple of sites you can check out to possibly carry more fuel. 
Hopefully you can click on them, if not you'll have to go through "search"

How many on the list are planning to attend Sun & Fun ?
 Fly Safe
 Bob Griffin






________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 06:07:27 AM PST US
From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk-3 elevator trim

--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>

Kolbers,
I am about to swage the elevator trim cable at the cockpit end. I assume that with
the elevator in the neutral position, and the trim lever full forward, the
cable should be pulled taut with no spring deflection.
Is this what you Mk-3 drivers recommend?.  If not, what is your method?
Thanks,
Denny Rowe
Mk-3 N616DR
2SI 690L-70 






________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 07:39:20 AM PST US
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk-3 elevator trim

--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>

For all the wire swaging, I went to the hardware store, and got some
"kernies", to temporarily pre-tension the wires, and get an idea of how they
would work, before actual swaging.   Kernie is a copper clamp with a screw
in the side;  meant to connect wiring - sort of an un-insulated wire nut.
You'll quite often see them used to connect the ground wire of your house to
the ground rod.   When you use them, just tighten down the screw enuf to
hold the wires in position.  If you clamp down too hard, you'll mash the
wires, and possibly damage them.     It's hard to remember that far back,
:-)  but seems to me I put some stretch in those trim springs with the lever
full forward.   With the wires held by the kernie, you can pull back the
lever, and see if you get  elevator deflection.                  Lar.

Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com

----- Original Message -----
From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk-3 elevator trim


> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> I am about to swage the elevator trim cable at the cockpit end. I assume
that with the elevator in the neutral position, and the trim lever full
forward, the cable should be pulled taut with no spring deflection.
> Is this what you Mk-3 drivers recommend?.  If not, what is your method?
> Thanks,
> Denny Rowe
> Mk-3 N616DR
> 2SI 690L-70
>
>






________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 07:49:29 AM PST US
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Heat

--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>

I was just reading the caption on page 57 of the January, 2003 National Geographic
magazine.  It describes the infra-red picture on page 56, of an ice fisherman
wrapped in a "Polartec Heat Blanket."  He's bright red against a dark blue
background.  I entered that in a search engine, and came up with a short blurb
on the "Malden Mills Polartec Heat Blanket,"   Knowing how much John H. enjoys
his Chilly Vest, I thought this might be of interest to you frozen Least Coasters.
and Mid-Westerners, and give you a starting point.  (Maybe coveralls ??)
Enjoy.   Now................if they'd only make a refrigerated version for
us desert rats in the summertime.......................! ! !                
Helpful Lar.

Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com






________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 09:45:10 AM PST US
From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk-3 elevator trim

--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>

Thanks Lar,
I got a drawer full of the kernies from my old Pterodactyl days and use them
on every cable end.
I checked the archives after my last post and Old Poops pretty much answered
my question.
I'm gonna set it so she pulls the wire tight on the first click, no spring
deflection with the lever full forward.
Be careful with some deflection on your springs with no back trim, you may
find yourself needing to hold forward stick pressure to keep Vamoose from
looping on ya, especially with that big honking engine behind your c/g.
Later,
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk-3 elevator trim


> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> For all the wire swaging, I went to the hardware store, and got some
> "kernies", to temporarily pre-tension the wires, and get an idea of how
they
> would work, before actual swaging.   Kernie is a copper clamp with a screw
> in the side;  meant to connect wiring - sort of an un-insulated wire nut.
> You'll quite often see them used to connect the ground wire of your house
to
> the ground rod.   When you use them, just tighten down the screw enuf to
> hold the wires in position.  If you clamp down too hard, you'll mash the
> wires, and possibly damage them.     It's hard to remember that far back,
> :-)  but seems to me I put some stretch in those trim springs with the
lever
> full forward.   With the wires held by the kernie, you can pull back the
> lever, and see if you get  elevator deflection.                  Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
> To: "kolblist" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Mk-3 elevator trim
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
> >
> > Kolbers,
> > I am about to swage the elevator trim cable at the cockpit end. I assume
> that with the elevator in the neutral position, and the trim lever full
> forward, the cable should be pulled taut with no spring deflection.
> > Is this what you Mk-3 drivers recommend?.  If not, what is your method?
> > Thanks,
> > Denny Rowe
> > Mk-3 N616DR
> > 2SI 690L-70
> >
> >
>
>






________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 09:51:13 AM PST US
From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk-3 elevator trim

--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>

That method has worked fine for me.
You are probably not ready for this yet, but when the time comes to rig for 
your first flight, have your flaps and ailerons drooped just a bit. That 
will make the stick feel a bit noseheavy and you will need a hair of up 
elevator trim. ( A slightly noseheavy trimmed airplane is safer for the 
first flight than one that has trimmed to act slightly tailheavy, because 
if you get distracted, you don't want the nose easing it's way up, and the 
airspeed dropping off unnoticed, and a slight droop in the wing control 
surfaces will make it act noseheavy)
After you get a bit of time in it, then rerig the ailerons and flaps so 
that it trims out neutral stick when you are solo, and the trim lever is 
full forward.
Bear in mind that with the high thrust line, you may find that it takes a 
bit of back trim cruising at 80% power, but wants to ease it's nose up when 
cruising at 60% power, even with the trim lever full forward. That's when 
you fine tune it with the flaps and ailerons to suit yourself.

Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

At 09:16 AM 1/21/03 -0500, you wrote:

>--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
>Kolbers,
>I am about to swage the elevator trim cable at the cockpit end. I assume 
>that with the elevator in the neutral position, and the trim lever full 
>forward, the cable should be pulled taut with no spring deflection.
>Is this what you Mk-3 drivers recommend?.  If not, what is your method?
>Thanks,
>Denny Rowe
>Mk-3 N616DR
>2SI 690L-70






________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 09:51:35 AM PST US
From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Heat

--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>

Just heard from my buddy Luray who owns a 2SI powered Slingshot.  He says he
was flying yesterday with his electric vest on, says it made all the
difference.
I beleive he also has his engine water plumbed into a heater core in the
cabin, so you can get the picture of how cold it is here in PA.
Denny
do not archive

----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Heat


> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> I was just reading the caption on page 57 of the January, 2003 National
Geographic magazine.  It describes the infra-red picture on page 56, of an
ice fisherman wrapped in a "Polartec Heat Blanket."  He's bright red against
a dark blue background.  I entered that in a search engine, and came up with
a short blurb on the "Malden Mills Polartec Heat Blanket,"   Knowing how
much John H. enjoys his Chilly Vest, I thought this might be of interest to
you frozen Least Coasters. and Mid-Westerners, and give you a starting
point.  (Maybe coveralls ??)  Enjoy.   Now................if they'd only
make a refrigerated version for us desert rats in the
summertime.......................! ! !                 Helpful Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
>