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1. 10:29 AM - Aerobatics in a Kolb (Bill Vincent)
2. 01:31 PM - Re: Aerobatics in a Kolb (Bob Bean)
3. 02:01 PM - Re: Engine wanted (Peter Volum)
4. 02:38 PM - Re: Insurance (SR3SA2L1@aol.com)
5. 04:11 PM - Re: Rotax 532 (Jim)
6. 04:51 PM - Re: Adventures (WillUribe@aol.com)
7. 05:11 PM - Twinstar/MarkIII (Paul Petty)
8. 05:40 PM - Wing Rack (Mike Pierzina)
9. 05:49 PM - Re: Twinstar/MarkIII (Peter Volum)
10. 06:18 PM - Re: Twinstar/MarkIII (Paul Petty)
11. 06:30 PM - Stupid Question! (Paul Petty)
12. 07:10 PM - 447 not starting and tach trouble. (Scott Olendorf)
13. 07:42 PM - Re: Twinstar/MarkIII (Duncan McBride)
14. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: Ultralight Pilot Busted (John Hauck)
15. 09:09 PM - Re: Stupid Question! (CaptainRon)
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Subject: | Aerobatics in a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi Kolbers
I know that Kolbs are not designed for aerobatics, and I do not think
anyone should do aerobatics in a Kolb, yet I know there are pilots doing
it.
My questions are:
Anytime I have ever seen a film or a picture of a Kolb doing aerobatics
it has been an Ultrastar, is the design of the Ultrastar balanced for
aerobatics better than the other Kolbs?
What kind of a carburetor are they using or doesn't it matter because
all the aerobatics are positive G loaded?
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Subject: | Re: Aerobatics in a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Bill, careful now, talk like that's gonnna void your warranty. -BB
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Bill Vincent wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
>
>Hi Kolbers
>
>I know that Kolbs are not designed for aerobatics, and I do not think
>anyone should do aerobatics in a Kolb, yet I know there are pilots doing
>it.
>My questions are:
>Anytime I have ever seen a film or a picture of a Kolb doing aerobatics
>it has been an Ultrastar, is the design of the Ultrastar balanced for
>aerobatics better than the other Kolbs?
>What kind of a carburetor are they using or doesn't it matter because
>all the aerobatics are positive G loaded?
>
>Bill Vincent
>Firestar II
>Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Al, One of our club members has one for sale.
See: http://www.lafa.com/FleaMarket.htm for details and contact
information.
Peter
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of al bumhoffer
Subject: Kolb-List: Engine wanted
--> Kolb-List message posted by: al bumhoffer <abumhoffer@yahoo.com>
I've been lurking for quite a while now and appreciate
the wealth of knowledge and humor that is on this
list. I've been flying ultralights for almost 20 yrs
now, starting with an EZ Riser and gradually moving up
to my current project, a FirestarII nearing the paint
stage. I'm wondering if anyone has a used 503 DCDI or
SCDI with B box and motor mounts for sale. I thought
I would check the list first before ordering a new one
from Kolb. contact me off list at abum@avci.net. This
is my 1st post so bare with me. Thanks and safe
flying.
Al Bumhoffer
Elkton MI Do Not Archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: SR3SA2L1@aol.com
Dear "Illigal unregistered aircraft owners",
This is why we have been trying forever (maybe it just seems that way) to get
the USUA and FAA to push to change or modify the part 103 rules to meet what
most of the rest of the world seems to use for the definition of ultralights
("microlight" weights, fuel and speed rules). Since I have only about 20
years or so left to fly, I don't think I will be around to see it happen
though.
Steve
do not archieve
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Richard,
Thanks for the info. Today I switched the probes and now both are reading
about 1000. But I don't understand that! If the probe or gauge was wrong,
wouldn't the readings be the same as before I switched except for being
opposite to what it was before switching?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 532
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> At 04:45 PM 1/30/03 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
> >
> >kolbers
> >
> >On my Mark III, I replaced my 503 with a 532 and I have two problems:
> >
> >1- The egt on the front reads just under 1200 while the rear reads about
> >1000. Any ideas?
>
>
> Not necessarily in order of easiest to do -
> 1. Swap the probes to make sure that it is the engine and not the probes.
> If that doesn't resolve the question:
> 2. Run a compression test to make sure the cylinders are the same, check
> the rings for being stuck - problems.
> 3. Run a pressure/vacuum test on the crankcase to ensure that there are no
> leaking seals.
> 4. Needle jets/jet needles worn unevenly.
> 5. One carb has floats that are fuel logged.
> 6. Points are not set the same. One cylinder is firing late. ( Or early )
> (Beware of "Rotax" points from Airstar Discount Sales. They have a useful
> life of about 6 hours. Guess how I know this?) (Found out about half way
to
> Oshkosh...)
>
>
> >2 - I have not been able to get a tach to read correctly during flight.
It
> >will show about 4800 rpm, then when I increase the throttle it drops rpm.
> >Any more ideas?
>
> Try reversing the leads from the lighting coil to the tach. If the leads
> from the lighting coil go to the regulator/rectifier first, try swapping
> the wires to the tach between the tach and the regulator/rectifier. If
that
> doesn't fix it, try swapping the leads from the engine to the regulator
> rectifier first, and then if that doesn't work, THEN swap the wires where
> they come off the regulator/rectifier. (Now guess how I know how to do all
> this? .....sigh) ( If you don't take notes, you'll never keep track of
what
> you are doing)
> Also, what is the part number on your tach? (I am assuming Westach?) If
> your tach worked off the lighting coil on the 503, then it ought to work
> off the lighting coil on the 532. But if the 503 had Ducati dual
ignition....
>
>
> >Jim
> >Mark III
> >
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Hi Ken,
I didn't understand your question but I did look at TNK webpage and checked
it out. The link goes to someone called Dick Beamer who flys a Rans. I
looked at all the pictures on that webpage and no where do I see Steve
Ledbetter's Mark III Classic. Why would TNK have a link to a Rans drive?
Interesting
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <<A HREF="mailto:kfackler@ameritech.net">kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Found this on the TNK website:
>
> The New Kolb Aircraft Company would like to acknowledge the adventure of
Steve Ledbetter, a Mark III Classic owner who flew his plane, with a friend,
from Pendleton, Indiana round trip to Seattle, Washington. Due to engine
problems, Steve was unable to complete his full return trip with his Mark
III. We congratulate you Steve on your achievement! You are an excellent
advertisement for the durability and dependability of a Kolb Aircraft.
>
> Why in the dickens don't we have some of the "adventures" from the group of
folks on-list?
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
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Subject: | Twinstar/MarkIII |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Hello Kolbers,
Great weather here this weekend in central Mississippi. Charley and I flew up to
a small airport in Newton MS. to investigate some ultralight aircraft that we
heard was on the field. Not much there but the trip was worth while as we found
a Twinstar Mark III in an outdoor hanger that looked to be covered for winter.
The data plate on the fuselage tube indicated that the builder was Allen
Sasser from Jacksonville FL. And that the engine was a veneer? Any one know this
fella or the plane? Very nice instrument panel and console. Rudder had a gash
that had been fixed with clear packing tape but other than that it looked pretty
nice. If any of you want photos let me know and I will send.
Two questions please....
1.Is the Veneer or Veneer engine a 2 or four cycle? It was covered and I could
not tell. The exhaust system implicated that it was four cycle.
2.What measures have to be taken to be compliant with the FAA to fly a MarkIII.
I.e. inspections, airworthiness ect. Charley is having to write up a check list
and note and document Vx,Vy, stall speeds and so on for his RV-8.
sidebar... We are drawing up plans to build a 5 cylinder radial engine using Harley
Davidson 1200cc top ends, base up, for our 1/2 scale P-47 replica. any takers?????
Final note... Hopefully the warmer weather will spark the motorcyclist to buy one
of my bikes so I can order kit one.
Looking forward to meeting everyone at SnF...
Fly safe..
pp.....
N4968P
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
Just thought I'd share one of my Ideas.... After the wings are
built , they're always in the way....even when I hung them on the wall.
Well , I found one of those furniture carts with 4 caster wheels ( Harbor
freight sells them for $14.00) I made a simple rail in the center for the wing
trailing edge to lean on.....out of 3 pieces of sq tube and a couple of angles
to bolt the rail in the center of the cart.....the leading edge rests on the
carpet of the cart , I screwed some round dowel material so the leading edge
would stay put...
It has been working GREAT.... if I need the wings out of the way or the wing
on the back side, it's easy to move around the garage...
It's probly going to be handy even after I'm done building.
I might have it in a picture if any body's interested...
Gotta Fly...
Mike
---
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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Subject: | Twinstar/MarkIII |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Paul, I believe that's a Verner engine you saw.
You can get more information about Verner engines from:
http://www.vernermotors.com
and
http://www.verneraircraftengines.com/PDF_files.htm
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Petty
Subject: Kolb-List: Twinstar/MarkIII
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Hello Kolbers,
Great weather here this weekend in central Mississippi. Charley and I
flew up to a small airport in Newton MS. to investigate some ultralight
aircraft that we heard was on the field. Not much there but the trip was
worth while as we found a Twinstar Mark III in an outdoor hanger that
looked to be covered for winter. The data plate on the fuselage tube
indicated that the builder was Allen Sasser from Jacksonville FL. And
that the engine was a veneer? Any one know this fella or the plane? Very
nice instrument panel and console. Rudder had a gash that had been fixed
with clear packing tape but other than that it looked pretty nice. If
any of you want photos let me know and I will send.
Two questions please....
1.Is the Veneer or Veneer engine a 2 or four cycle? It was covered and I
could not tell. The exhaust system implicated that it was four cycle.
2.What measures have to be taken to be compliant with the FAA to fly a
MarkIII. I.e. inspections, airworthiness ect. Charley is having to write
up a check list and note and document Vx,Vy, stall speeds and so on for
his RV-8.
sidebar... We are drawing up plans to build a 5 cylinder radial engine
using Harley Davidson 1200cc top ends, base up, for our 1/2 scale P-47
replica. any takers?????
Final note... Hopefully the warmer weather will spark the motorcyclist
to buy one of my bikes so I can order kit one.
Looking forward to meeting everyone at SnF...
Fly safe..
pp.....
N4968P
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Subject: | Re: Twinstar/MarkIII |
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USER_IN_WHITELIST)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Yep Pete! That's it. I thought it may be four cycle.
To skimpy on HP for me. Rotax 912S still has my vote.
Thanks
DO NOT ARCHIVE
pp..........
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Twinstar/MarkIII
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
>
> Paul, I believe that's a Verner engine you saw.
>
> You can get more information about Verner engines from:
>
> http://www.vernermotors.com
>
> and
>
> http://www.verneraircraftengines.com/PDF_files.htm
>
> Peter
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Petty
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Twinstar/MarkIII
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Hello Kolbers,
> Great weather here this weekend in central Mississippi. Charley and I
> flew up to a small airport in Newton MS. to investigate some ultralight
> aircraft that we heard was on the field. Not much there but the trip was
> worth while as we found a Twinstar Mark III in an outdoor hanger that
> looked to be covered for winter. The data plate on the fuselage tube
> indicated that the builder was Allen Sasser from Jacksonville FL. And
> that the engine was a veneer? Any one know this fella or the plane? Very
> nice instrument panel and console. Rudder had a gash that had been fixed
> with clear packing tape but other than that it looked pretty nice. If
> any of you want photos let me know and I will send.
> Two questions please....
> 1.Is the Veneer or Veneer engine a 2 or four cycle? It was covered and I
> could not tell. The exhaust system implicated that it was four cycle.
> 2.What measures have to be taken to be compliant with the FAA to fly a
> MarkIII. I.e. inspections, airworthiness ect. Charley is having to write
> up a check list and note and document Vx,Vy, stall speeds and so on for
> his RV-8.
>
> sidebar... We are drawing up plans to build a 5 cylinder radial engine
> using Harley Davidson 1200cc top ends, base up, for our 1/2 scale P-47
> replica. any takers?????
>
> Final note... Hopefully the warmer weather will spark the motorcyclist
> to buy one of my bikes so I can order kit one.
>
> Looking forward to meeting everyone at SnF...
>
> Fly safe..
>
> pp.....
> N4968P
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Stupid Question! |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Stupid Question I know,
But hey I'm redneck!
With the obvious factor being weight, what would be the down side of constructing
a Kolb's exterior in aluminum vs. poly fab?.....
Please....DO NOT ARCHIVE :-)
pp.....
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Subject: | 447 not starting and tach trouble. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Scott Olendorf" <solendor@nycap.rr.com>
Well I'm a little bit behind in my email and I didn't see too much about Gene Ledbetter's
problem being solved. I had a problem with my brancd new 447 after
5 hours the engine stopped running while I was flying along. It acted just like
I shut off the engine. Well I called Lockwood where I purchased the engine
and they ran me through lots of tests with an ohm meter to see if the CDI unit
was bad. I don't have all the details but my CDI ohmed out perfectly as did
my stator.
Bottom line, I replaced my CDI with one I borrowed off of a 503 and she fired right
up first pull. I bought a new CDI and sent mine back to Lockwood under warrantly
in August. I still haven't received any word on the CDI I sent back
and haven't gotten reimbursed for the $228 either. I must say though that Lockwood
has been great and supposedly Rotax has been sitting on it all this time.
Second thing is for Jim with the Mark III that has had a tach problem. When I
changed out my 377 with a 447 I needed a new tach. I wired it up and it acted
very flakey. It worked great for the first hour or two then it wouldn't hold
a value between 4800 and 6200 rpms. It turned our that the engine must be grounded
to the frame or the tach must be grounded directly to the engine. After
I installed a ground strap from the engine to the airframe my tach started working
perfectly. Westach tested my new tach and sent it back to me no charge.
I hope this helps someone.
p.s. Those monument valley pictures make great backgrounds for my PC. There is
a problem though, some of the pictures do not have a Kolb in them.
Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop.
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Subject: | Re: Twinstar/MarkIII |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I know Al, and I flew in that plane while he still had it. He sold it
several years ago. The engine was a Verner two cylinder four-stroke with a
belt drive reduction unit.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Twinstar/MarkIII
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Hello Kolbers,
> Great weather here this weekend in central Mississippi. Charley and I flew
up to a small airport in Newton MS. to investigate some ultralight aircraft
that we heard was on the field. Not much there but the trip was worth while
as we found a Twinstar Mark III in an outdoor hanger that looked to be
covered for winter. The data plate on the fuselage tube indicated that the
builder was Allen Sasser from Jacksonville FL. And that the engine was a
veneer? Any one know this fella or the plane? Very nice instrument panel and
console. Rudder had a gash that had been fixed with clear packing tape but
other than that it looked pretty nice. If any of you want photos let me know
and I will send.
> Two questions please....
> 1.Is the Veneer or Veneer engine a 2 or four cycle? It was covered and I
could not tell. The exhaust system implicated that it was four cycle.
> 2.What measures have to be taken to be compliant with the FAA to fly a
MarkIII. I.e. inspections, airworthiness ect. Charley is having to write up
a check list and note and document Vx,Vy, stall speeds and so on for his
RV-8.
>
> sidebar... We are drawing up plans to build a 5 cylinder radial engine
using Harley Davidson 1200cc top ends, base up, for our 1/2 scale P-47
replica. any takers?????
>
> Final note... Hopefully the warmer weather will spark the motorcyclist to
buy one of my bikes so I can order kit one.
>
> Looking forward to meeting everyone at SnF...
>
> Fly safe..
>
> pp.....
> N4968P
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Ultralight Pilot Busted |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
> The pilot was Adriel Heisey in his Kolb Mark II performing a special for our
local PBS (Public Broadcast Station) here in Arizona.
> Tim
Hi Tim/Gang:
Adriel flies a very old Kolb Twinstar, unless he
changed plane recently. Never met Adriel or seen
the entire aircraft, but helped Brother Jim
overhaul the fuselage (I held the parts for Jim,
when told to do so) many years ago after Adriel
pranged it pretty good. Was a lucky man to walk
away from it. Back then it was powered by a 503,
but now, I understand, it is powered with a 912.
Believe the 912 was for reliability more than any
other reason.
john h
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Subject: | Re: Stupid Question! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "CaptainRon" <captainron@theriver.com>
I have been thinking of doing just that. Of late the only thing I'll redo is
the horizontal stabs in .017 alum. It looks like way too much+ work to do
the whole airplane. My best swag that if you do everything, you will gain
about 55 lbr in additional weight. It maybe 5-10kt faster. Might as well
just buy a Titan. :-)
I don't think it would be worth it. It may?? just be easier to wrap it in
fiberglass.
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================================,
>
> Stupid Question I know,
> But hey I'm redneck!
> With the obvious factor being weight, what would be the down side of
constructing a Kolb's exterior in aluminum vs. poly fab?.....
>
> Please....DO NOT ARCHIVE :-)
>
> pp.....
>
>
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