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Mon 02/10/03


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 04:19 AM - Helmets (Kirk Smith)
     2. 08:51 AM - 2003 Beach Run (John Hauck)
     3. 09:03 AM - Re: In Flight Adjustable Prop (Hans vanAlphen)
     4. 09:22 AM - Re: BMW engine (Peter Volum)
     5. 10:50 AM - Re: Aluminum Wheel Legs (woody)
     6. 01:13 PM - Insurance (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
     7. 02:09 PM - Re: Insurance (Timandjan@aol.com)
     8. 02:12 PM - Kolb wing spar (Fackler, Ken)
     9. 03:34 PM - Re: Kolb wing spar (CaptainRon)
    10. 04:58 PM - Re: Kolb wing spar (Tiffany Pitra)
    11. 05:54 PM - Re: snow skis and how too .. (SR3SA2L1@aol.com)
    12. 06:29 PM - Re: Kolb wing spar (Timandjan@aol.com)
    13. 06:50 PM - Registering if your not the builder? (Alderson, James)
    14. 07:42 PM - Experimental Aircraft Registration (John Hauck)
    15. 08:02 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 39 Msgs - 02/09/03 ()
    16. 08:05 PM - Re: Registering if your not the builder? (Alderson, James)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:19:22 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Helmets
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> I have removed the passenger side airbag from my SUV and intend on installing it in my Mark 3. Have decided to go with tempered safety glass in my 12 inch diameter windshield. Used to be a porthole on a battleship. The bulkhead door is still attached as it worked perfectly to seal me into my foam lined body fit pilot cell. Not unlike a complete body helmet. My full set of leathers and NASCAR approved helmet should render me immortal . My only dilemna now is whether I should wear my waders under or over my firesuit? I'm thinking under , so you guys won't laugh yourselves silly when I fly into the Kolb flyins. Of course the waders will be as necessary as the oars and boat will be. Go ahead and laugh if you want but I know I will be saving the country billions in health care costs.....:o) Snuffy DO NOT ARCHIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Time: 08:51:25 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
    Subject: 2003 Beach Run
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com> Hello Kolbers: The boys down south are having the Beach Run 22-23 Feb 2003. This is the normal annual beach flight that was postponed from last November or December. The flight starts at Sandy Creek Air Park north of Tyndal AFB, fly to Mexico Beach, down the beach north of St Joe Spit, hop across the bay to the spit, then down the beach east, all the way to Alligator Point and finally to the grass strip at Panacea, FL. Everyone is welcome to come and join in the flight. We always have a good time. The beach run is always beautiful from the air. Most time we get to observe a lot of marine life and some fine feathered friends that easily fly much better than us. Never yet failed to see several bald eagles in the area around St Vincent Island. At Panacea we split up to sleep at different people beach houses in the local area or out at Alligator Point. We usually have a good seafood dinner in Panacea, get some sleep. Next morning, Sunday, get a good breakfast and head for home. The weekend is really informal, loose as a goose, and a tremendous amount of fun. A big plus is the fact that it can be done without spending your life's savings. If you want more info, i.e., airport identifiers and GPS coordinates, telephone numbers, etc., let me know. john h PS: Did I say that everyone and all makes of airplanes, or people that want to drive and meet us at Sandy Creek or Pancea are welcome to come join in on the fun. DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:03:41 AM PST US
    From: "Hans vanAlphen" <hva@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: In Flight Adjustable Prop
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hans vanAlphen" <hva@bellsouth.net> Clay and Gang, I have used the Ivo ultralight electric inflight prop now for over 30 hours and I am very happy with it. It is smoother than the Powerfin I used before, maybe not quite as efficient but I get 27 mph difference in speed between max climb pitch and max cruise pitch. On my BMW engine I use 6500 rpm for climb (7200 rpm is redline) and cruise at 72 mph at only 4800 rpm. The BMW is a fourstroke with lots of torque and I doubt you would get the added performance on a 2 stroke. Great prop at only $860.- Hans van Alphen Kolb Mark III Xtra #14 BMW powered 93 hours. > From: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net> > Subject: Kolb-List: Ivo in-flight adjustable prop > This is of interest: > http://www.ivoprop.com/inflightultralightmodel.htm > What does everyone think about this prop? Or it is not a big performance enhancer > on a high-drag plane like a Kolb? The price doesn't look too bad. I just > wonder how about this prop's durability and reliability. > It seems like this would be Sport Plane acceptable since it is not a constant speed > prop, but an adjustable one. They have an add-on to make this a constant > speed prop for $400 more. > Clay Stuart > Mark IIIXtra builder >


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    Time: 09:22:28 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
    Subject: RE: BMW engine
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> Hello Hans: what is the Model, Rated HP, weight and cost of your BMW engine?, and what is your fuel consumption at cruise? Peter --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hans vanAlphen" <hva@bellsouth.net> Clay and Gang, On my BMW engine I use 6500 rpm for climb (7200 rpm is redline) and cruise at 72 mph at only 4800 rpm. The BMW is a fourstroke with lots of torque and I doubt you would get the added performance on a 2 stroke.


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    Time: 10:50:10 AM PST US
    From: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
    Subject: Re: Aluminum Wheel Legs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net> At 09:32 AM 2/9/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Currie <bnb@erols.com> > >I am a longtime reader and have learned alot. I have done all of the >rigging and >covering on a FSII and recall that It would be a good idea to lube the >sockets the >gear legs fit into. Roled the fuselage over and find that the legs feel >far too >contforable in their sockets and are not interested in coming out. Before >going to >the pipe wrench and twisting method, is there a better way to remove >them? If and >when I get them out any recomendations on lube so future removel can be done? Heat and beat sometimes frees them up. Next time if they don't slide into the sockets stop and clean out the socket. There is usually a bit of weld or distortion where the frame tubes meet. I once had to cut the leg off and then install a slide hammer to force it off. Lots off work, now I clean the sockets.


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    Time: 01:13:49 PM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Insurance
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> For those interested in insurance, I called Mahoney at the number Ken posted, 800 637-0453, and here are their quotes for liability insurance: (They offer a 10% discount if you belong to an organization (EAA, USUA, ASC, etc.) and another 10% if you have a parachute.) $100,000 $500 - 20% $400 $500,000 $800 - 20% $640 $1,000,000 $950 - 20% $760 These are annual prices. I also contacted IMC (?) but they don't insure Ultralights. Does anyone have any better numbers? Arizona Dave


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    Time: 02:09:51 PM PST US
    From: Timandjan@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Insurance
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com In a message dated 2/10/03 5:14:50 PM, pelletier@cableone.net writes: << --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> For those interested in insurance, I called Mahoney at the number Ken posted, 800 637-0453, and here are their quotes for liability insurance: (They offer a 10% discount if you belong to an organization (EAA, USUA, ASC, etc.) and another 10% if you have a parachute.) $100,000 $500 - 20% $400 $500,000 $800 - 20% $640 $1,000,000 $950 - 20% $760 These are annual prices. I also contacted IMC (?) but they don't insure Ultralights. Does anyone have any better numbers? Arizona Dave >> My premiums for my Numbered Firestar 2 are a lot less than these through Avemco. I pay $211.00 for liability, 100,000, personal, 100,000 property 500,000 each incident. No medical coverage for myself or passenger. Tim DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:12:12 PM PST US
    From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Kolb wing spar
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net> A friend of mine posed a question about Kolbs that I know the answer for. Can anyone here help? -Ken Fackler Mark II / 503 Rochester MI 8<--------------------- cut here ------------------------------------------- I have a question. I was told the Kolb has a 5-inch diameter round tube wing spar. Could you find out if the alloy is 6061-T6 or 6063-T5, and if the wall thickness is .062", .063", or .065" ? Of course I may be wrong on alloy numbers or wall thicknesses, but it's a good place to start.


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    Time: 03:34:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb wing spar
    From: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com> 2/10/03 15:10Fackler, Ken > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net> > > A friend of mine posed a question about Kolbs that I know the answer for. > Can anyone here help? > > -Ken Fackler > Mark II / 503 > Rochester MI > > 8<--------------------- cut here ------------------------------------------- > > I have a question. I was told the Kolb has a 5-inch diameter round tube > wing spar. Could you find out if the alloy is 6061-T6 or 6063-T5, and if > the wall thickness is .062", .063", or .065" ? Of course I may be wrong on > alloy numbers or wall thicknesses, but it's a good place to start. > ======================= Which Kolb Ken? On the M3X its 6" x .058


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    Time: 04:58:10 PM PST US
    From: Tiffany Pitra <tif_qtra@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb wing spar
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Tiffany Pitra <tif_qtra@yahoo.com> My firestar is alcoa 6061 t6 5'' x.049 wall aren't they all same? CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon 2/10/03 15:10Fackler, Ken > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > A friend of mine posed a question about Kolbs that I know the answer for. > Can anyone here help? > > -Ken Fackler > Mark II / 503 > Rochester MI > > 8<--------------------- cut here ------------------------------------------- > > I have a question. I was told the Kolb has a 5-inch diameter round tube > wing spar. Could you find out if the alloy is 6061-T6 or 6063-T5, and if > the wall thickness is .062", .063", or .065" ? Of course I may be wrong on > alloy numbers or wall thicknesses, but it's a good place to start. > ======================= Which Kolb Ken? On the M3X its 6" x .058 ---------------------------------


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    Time: 05:54:26 PM PST US
    From: SR3SA2L1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: snow skis and how too ..
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: SR3SA2L1@aol.com Hi all, I am still trying to get the ski info to you and I won't give up until its done. I am nearing the point of having the FS done and would like to register it (its beyond fat and into the obese range). I understand there is a book or two that give a step by step guide/info on the process. Any of you have one you are done with? Steve


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    Time: 06:29:49 PM PST US
    From: Timandjan@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Kolb wing spar
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com Just measured a extra piece I have, the 5 inch spar is .050 and the 6 inch spar measures .065. My Firestar 2 uses the 5inch and the Slingshot and Mark models use the 6inch. I also believe it is 6061 t6. I received the long spars and had to cut mine so I have a piece left over and the 6 inch piece was given to me by another builder for a project I was creating. (my digital caliper is a cheapy so the measurements might be a bit off) Hope this helps DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:50:23 PM PST US
    From: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
    Subject: Registering if your not the builder?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com> Good evening all, I have another question. I talked to the builder of the Kolb I am buying (getting excited, tomorrow is the night I own it) and we talked for quite a while. I wanted if nothing else to tell this guy that I was in awe of his work. I hang around a bunch of ultralighters that fly stuff that is safe, but not the most attractive, so this is a treat to see something with this much love in it. I am someone who wants to be proud of my plane, and will probably spend more time tinkering and cleaning than flying. Anyway, the builder said he probably spent close to 1000 hours building this thing with all the slow days of perfecting that he spent, it was his third Kolb build and he says his last as he is just way to anal with the build (eg. He used a laser level on all wing ribs and points, didn't allow more than 2 degrees off at any point or it was rebuilt). Anyway, he didn't keep any pictures or records as he never intended it to be registered. So... I want to register this plane as an experimental. I want to do it soon and need to know if its harder for me to register it without being the builder? I know it means that I will have to get someone else to do the annuals for me (lots of A&P around that are lovers of the six pack) and a few other things will be more of a pain, but I just want to know that its still possible and fairly straight forward. Is there anywhere I can go to find out the process of not building but registering? James Alderson


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    Time: 07:42:44 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com>
    Subject: Experimental Aircraft Registration
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@sw.rr.com> Steve/James/Gang: Or, how to turn a fat ultralight into a legal registered experimental homebuilt aircraft with airworthiness certificate: http://www1.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/ http://av-info.faa.gov/dst/amateur/ Everything you ever wanted to know about experimental homebuilt registration and certification can be found in the above web sites. Have at it guys. I ain't gonna do it for you. Also, contact your local FSDO (FAA Office) for a packet to register and certify your homebuilt. I got mine from the FSDO in Birmingham, Alabama. john h


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    Time: 08:02:27 PM PST US
    From: <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 39 Msgs - 02/09/03
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <by0ung@brigham.net> <<<<<<Greetings I spent a while going through the archives and couldn't find much on Sporty's SP-200 hand held transceiver. Anybody have any experience with this radio? I like the idea that it has the nav capability as well as localizer plus a five year warranty. It also appears that an adapter can be purchased so I can plug it into my intercom. Appreciate any comments and thank you ahead of time Dick Neitzel Sayner WI Mark III 582 >>>>> ============================= i have been looking at the sp-200 as well...... i am now using the sporties a300 and have liked it quite well....i have never used the nav portion of the radio other than testing but it seemed to work well... one reason i think i would go for the 200 is the adapters i have for the 300 should fit without any mods. boyd


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    Time: 08:05:36 PM PST US
    From: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
    Subject: Registering if your not the builder?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com> Well, after receiving a call from another individual regarding this issue, it appears that it will be near impossible to do this. If anyone has any personal experience with doing this, please let me know. Know, forgive me for being ignorant on the FAR 103, but can a Firestar II be registered as an ultralight trainer without having two sets of controls? It fits all the other criteria, but without controls I can't see how it would be a viable trainer for any BFI without a suicide wish, but its worth asking. If not, I guess I will fill bags with helium and rig them into the plane somewhere... should be able to get it down to 254lbs. Man, there really isn't many options to fly these things legally without spending 500-1000 hours to build it.... James. -----Original Message----- From: Alderson, James Subject: Kolb-List: Registering if your not the builder? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com> Good evening all, I have another question. I talked to the builder of the Kolb I am buying (getting excited, tomorrow is the night I own it) and we talked for quite a while. I wanted if nothing else to tell this guy that I was in awe of his work. I hang around a bunch of ultralighters that fly stuff that is safe, but not the most attractive, so this is a treat to see something with this much love in it. I am someone who wants to be proud of my plane, and will probably spend more time tinkering and cleaning than flying. Anyway, the builder said he probably spent close to 1000 hours building this thing with all the slow days of perfecting that he spent, it was his third Kolb build and he says his last as he is just way to anal with the build (eg. He used a laser level on all wing ribs and points, didn't allow more than 2 degrees off at any point or it was rebuilt). Anyway, he didn't keep any pictures or records as he never intended it to be registered. So... I want to register this plane as an experimental. I want to do it soon and need to know if its harder for me to register it without being the builder? I know it means that I will have to get someone else to do the annuals for me (lots of A&P around that are lovers of the six pack) and a few other things will be more of a pain, but I just want to know that its still possible and fairly straight forward. Is there anywhere I can go to find out the process of not building but registering? James Alderson




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