---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/13/03: 43 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:08 AM - Re: Jabiru (Vincehallam@aol.com) 2. 03:48 AM - Re: Fuel Tanks and Cargo Space (Kirk Smith) 3. 04:40 AM - Re: Re: helmets message of Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:56:18 -0800 (Kirk Smith) 4. 05:09 AM - Fuel tank (Kirk Smith) 5. 05:12 AM - Re: Sun N Fun (Airgriff2@aol.com) 6. 05:28 AM - Re: Tail Boom to cage (CaptainRon) 7. 05:31 AM - Re: (fuel tanks) (Airgriff2@aol.com) 8. 05:38 AM - Re: Fuel cell (Peter Volum) 9. 05:57 AM - Re: Ski helmet (Go5for4@aol.com) 10. 07:07 AM - Re: Tail Boom to cage (Richard Pike) 11. 07:07 AM - Re: Finally a Kolb Firestar II owner. () 12. 07:07 AM - Oil Thermostats (John Hauck) 13. 09:02 AM - Survery For A Southeast Flyin (Doug Lawton) 14. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: Fuel cell (l.teets@att.net) 15. 09:09 AM - Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 (l.teets@att.net) 16. 09:10 AM - Re: BMW (Hans vanAlphen) 17. 09:34 AM - Fuel Tanks (ghaley) 18. 09:43 AM - Re: Survery For A Southeast Flyin (John Hauck) 19. 09:53 AM - Re: Fuel Tanks () 20. 10:15 AM - Re: Fuel Tanks (John Hauck) 21. 10:22 AM - Fuel "bag" (EnaudZ@aol.com) 22. 10:53 AM - Re: Fuel "bag" (John Hauck) 23. 11:42 AM - Plantation Fly In (Jimmy) 24. 12:02 PM - extra fuel () 25. 12:51 PM - Re: Sun N Fun (Jim Ballenger) 26. 12:52 PM - Re: Sun N Fun (Jim Ballenger) 27. 12:54 PM - Re: Sun N Fun (Jim Ballenger) 28. 01:23 PM - Re: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 (Richard Pike) 29. 01:31 PM - Re: Survery For A Southeast Flyin (Richard Pike) 30. 01:43 PM - Recent flights (John Williamson) 31. 02:06 PM - Re: Sun N Fun (Kirk Smith) 32. 02:12 PM - Re: Recent flights (Kirk Smith) 33. 02:32 PM - Re: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 (John Hauck) 34. 02:48 PM - Re: Recent flights (John Hauck) 35. 04:33 PM - Fuel tanks (Mark German) 36. 05:59 PM - Re: Tail Boom to cage (CaptainRon) 37. 06:11 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (CaptainRon) 38. 06:14 PM - Re: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 (Frank Reynen) 39. 06:29 PM - Re: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 (John Hauck) 40. 07:46 PM - Adding a Primer to a Bing Carburetor (Jack & Louise Hart) 41. 08:38 PM - Re: John's Articles (Jim and Phyllis Hefner) 42. 08:56 PM - Re: John's Articles (John Hauck) 43. 09:14 PM - Re: Big nanny watching (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:08:27 AM PST US From: Vincehallam@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Jabiru --> Kolb-List message posted by: Vincehallam@aol.com Ionce boght a prpeller in africa werent allowed tobring in any thing like an aircraft part so declared it on customs manifest as a wood carving with supposed magical qualities if you used the right spell it could transport you to somewhere else.It worked Vnz ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:42 AM PST US From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Tanks and Cargo Space --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" time to never have a vented cap on my fuel tank on > my airplane. > > Once inverted, fuel will pour out of the vented > cap. > > I seal the vented cap and installed a vent line > that went overboard out the belly of the > aircraft. Now, should I go inverted on the ground > again, the fuel will stay in the tank and now run > down the back of my neck. Good idea John! Will do something like that. Snuf DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:58 AM PST US From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: helmets message of Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:56:18 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" On another note, however, I mentioned to the Greater Thumb Ultralight Flyers > (GTUF, pronounced Gee Tough) that you had a great field and would welcome > drop-ins. I hope that was okay? After a few minutes discussion, it was > quickly asked whether you'd be interested in hosting a fly-in? Apparently > your location is ideal as a central point for this club. How say you? Hell yes! Come on in! Snuffy DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:57 AM PST US From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tank --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" Here's a website with spun aluminum tanks. On my tanks I will be moving the filler location and pickup location. So it will require some aluminum welding. Snuffy http://www.bugsandbuggies.com/Parts.asp?CN676&SN105&GN7 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:54 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com > > >> Bob >> I am building a MK 3 X and looking for more gas capacity. Can you >> provide >> some more information on the 16 gallon tank you ordered? >> > Jim, Check out www.speedwaymotors.com Check out their (fuel cells).. The one I got #4580458 allows me to put in my own fittings and to locate the fill where I want. These tanks are designed for racing and street cars. They also have a nice little 8 gal. with a 2" sump and have tanks right up to 32 gal. My 16 gal tank is going to be mounted on edge behind the seats and costs $84.95 Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:26 AM PST US From: "CaptainRon" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tail Boom to cage --> Kolb-List message posted by: "CaptainRon" Thanks Richard. If it aint moving there is no need for any inside washers! I got some 3/8 ss washers from Ace Aviation (Hardware) and will place them against the paint and make a few .080 20204 washers to take up the slack. I'll sandwich the alum between 2 ss thin washers and that should solve (fretting) that. Did you next put the cage on the gear or did you continue to work on it sitting on the floor? I am tempted to stick it on the gear so I can move it around if I need to. But aint sure if that will cause problems with some other stuff. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:33 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: (fuel tanks) --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com Jim, in addition to the polyethene fuel cells that www.speedwaymotors.com sells, they also carry the spun alum tanks in the 8, 7, 9 1/2, and 11 gal. $95 -$115. Not sure about the weight of them ? Not baffeled. Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:31 AM PST US From: "Peter Volum" Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Fuel cell --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" That looks like a great looking tank that would be easily adaptable for our needs Bob. Thanks for the info. PV Do not archive Jim, Check out www.speedwaymotors.com Check out their (fuel cells).. The one I got #4580458 allows me to put in my own fittings and to locate the fill where I want. These tanks are designed for racing and street cars. They also have a nice little 8 gal. with a 2" sump and have tanks right up to 32 gal. My 16 gal tank is going to be mounted on edge behind the seats and costs $84.95 Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:58 AM PST US From: Go5for4@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ski helmet --> Kolb-List message posted by: Go5for4@aol.com Very good logic Richard I agree with you. Merle Hargis FF in Orlando Do Not Archive ****************************************************************************** ************** In a message dated 2/12/03 9:45:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, rwpike@charter.net writes: > Big nanny is watching you. Put on your seatbelt, strap your kid in the car > seat, fasten your helmet, put out your cigarette, and do what you're told. > (No, I don't smoke. It's the principle of the thing.) > > Richard Pike > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:00 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tail Boom to cage --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike At 06:38 AM 2/13/03 -0700, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "CaptainRon" > >Thanks Richard. > >Did you next put the cage on the gear or did you continue to work on it >sitting on the floor? >I am tempted to stick it on the gear so I can move it around if I need to. >But aint sure if that will cause problems with some other stuff. I had the gear legs in, tail boom in, and then covered it. Without the engine, I could pick it up by the front end of the cage, move it around, or tip it over to work on the bottom of the cage. And it was at a good height. Just stuck an old bolt & wing nut through the gear leg bolt holes, took the gear out when it was on it's side or back if I wanted to. Or left them in. One thing I would do different if I had it to do over again. The upper fuselage between the wings that is part of the cage and is fabric covered / lower part of the gap seal: After aligning and drilling the holes to attach the wings, lift struts, etc had been done, I did not notice that the two outside cage tubes were not congruent with the lower edges of the wing ribs. After all the covering and painting was done, put everything together and realized that while the fabric covered part of the cage and the lower part of the wing were a good match at the back of the wing, at the point about three inches back of where the main spar attaches, there is about 3/4" difference. Same on both sides. If I had it to do over again, I would have taken a torch to those outside tubes, heated and tweaked them into aligning with the lower edge of the rib before I got too far along. Not a big deal, but if you are trying to make as efficient a wing as possible, (I would like to put lower gap seals over that gap) or if you just plain want everything to be "Right", it would have been easier earlier. Not now. Fixing it now would be more trouble than it is worth. Or maybe New Kolb has aligned it better since my cage? Or maybe I should have disregarded the angle shown in the construction book, and just aligned the wing to the cage? (I don't think so!!) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:00 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Finally a Kolb Firestar II owner. --> Kolb-List message posted by: Big Congratulations James, that does look like one awesome bird. Welcome to Kolbdom. Denny Rowe do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Alderson, James Subject: Kolb-List: Finally a Kolb Firestar II owner. > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" > > So, I have been asking all kinds of pesky questions and I think I have read > every post since 96 ... well, I finally feel as if I am part of a group now. > I went from owning and flying a trike (which are alot of fun and you all > should try it sometime) to wanting more. I really wasn't sure what I was > going to buy. I looked at phantoms (which also look like a great strong > ultralight), quicksilvers, etc, and then one day I stumbled upon a plane in > barnstormers that I knew was owned by a guy at the airport that I fly out > of. I think I saw it fly once or twice but had really noticed it looked > great. Anyway, I called him up, asked lots of questions and we worked out a > deal, and when I finally got the money from the guy I sold my trike to, I > gave it right back to the sport and I bought it. That was tonight. > > So, to celebrate my glee at owning one of the finest examples of > craftmanship I had ever seen in ultralights (but have since come to see that > Kolb builders and owners are all sticklers for quality), I have posted some > pictures on a website for your viewing pleasure. Follow the link below and I > believe you should be able to look at 24 pictures that I posted. Please, > feel free to give me feedback and advice on what I should do with it next > and your thoughts on this firestar II. > > Thanks again for having a great site full of your experience and > experiences.... > > http://www.shutterfly.com/os.jsp?i=67b0de21b336399b2568 > > James Alderson > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:45 AM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Kolb-List: Oil Thermostats --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > Here's a website with spun aluminum tanks. On my tanks I will be moving the filler location and pickup location. So it will require some aluminum welding. Snuffy > > http://www.bugsandbuggies.com/Parts.asp?CN676&SN105&GN7 Sunff/Gang: These folks also have oil thermostats for about $54.00. Before I go that route though, I will check with Rotax and get a reading from them. So far, the only information I have is what I read about CPS selling them. john h ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:37 AM PST US From: "Doug Lawton" Subject: Kolb-List: Survery For A Southeast Flyin --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" Hey Kolbers, I was just sittin' here wondering how many of you folks live within flyin' or travelin' distance to the Chattanooga, TN area and would be willing to make this trip? I'm thinking about maybe startin' an annual Springtime UL Flyin, Cookout, Campover......whatever you want to call it at our airport just NW of Chattanooga. About 30 miles NW of downtown Noogaville, we've got 2 2200' parallel grass runways (one lighted) that are manicured like a golf green, hangar space, showere and bath facilities, 70 acres of "soft" ground for camping, barbecue, etc. and a real love of all things that fly. It would probably be a weekend thing. We mostly fly sailplanes and conventional light aircraft there, but Dr. Dale has his Kolb and I've got my Drifter. And lots of Hang Gliders are around the area too! Let me know what you think and if we get enough response, I'll try to put it together. Doug Lawton NE Georgia & Whitwell TN Mathews Field on the Sectionals ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:24 AM PST US From: l.teets@att.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RE: Fuel cell --> Kolb-List message posted by: l.teets@att.net I have a Kolb Mark 111 and need more fuel capacity,can you help me? l.teets@att.net > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" > > That looks like a great looking tank that would be easily adaptable for > our needs Bob. Thanks for the info. > > PV > > Do not archive > > Jim, Check out www.speedwaymotors.com > Check out their (fuel cells).. The > one I got #4580458 allows me to put in my own fittings and to locate the > fill > where I want. These tanks are designed for racing and street cars. They > also > have a nice little 8 gal. with a 2" sump and have tanks right up to 32 > gal. > My 16 gal tank is going to be mounted on edge behind the seats and costs > > $84.95 > > Fly Safe > Bob Griffin > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:13 AM PST US From: l.teets@att.net Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 --> Kolb-List message posted by: l.teets@att.net I do not have enough fuel capicity on my Kolb,10 Gallon factory tanks only.Need some ideas on how to get more fuel on board. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:53 AM PST US From: "Hans vanAlphen" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: BMW --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hans vanAlphen" > Hi Woody / Gang, > Try this URL for Hans vanAlphen homepage and see if it will work for you > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&ext=1&groupid=3931&ck >I went to the Bellsouth homepage and was able to locate it from there. > Interesting setup. I would like to know some of the details myself such as > thrust line height as compared to Rotax and it's effect on handling, any > problems with engine getting hot while sitting still (see static run-up > picture with window fan blowing on motor) and any other related stuff to > installation. How about it Hans, inquiring minds want to know. > > Later, > John Cooley > Hey John, Jason & Gang, My thrustline is 36 inches above the boom and I use a 68" prop with 2" clearance. The BMW engine is mounted on the the standard 912 engine mount with some additional brackets. In static testing the engine I used a fan for cooling for long runs, but cooling is not a problem, I can run it hard for ten minutes without overheating, taxiing has never been a problem (3000 rpm) and I have even removed the oilcooler for simplification. Flying in the hot Florida sun the oil temp does not go over 220 F. I use Castrol full synthetic oil. No Jason, I no longer use the centrifugal clutch because it failed inflight as I was testing the inflight adjustable prop. I simply added weight to the flywheel mass and that works great to dampen the torsional forces transmitted to the gearbox and prop. I purchased my gearbox adapter from Steve at Airdale as per link. I mentioned before that I purchased my ten gallon gas tank from Titan Aircraft, it is the same as the kolb 5 gallon tanks but just slightly bigger 11.5" x 13" x 16"h just 2" higher,wider and deeper.( Kolb tank 10x10x14) When I first saw it I said that's not 10 gallons, but is is. It was $45.- plus shipping. I use only one because I only burn 3 gallons per hour. Hans van Alphen Mark III Xtra BMW powered 93 hours. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:40 AM PST US From: "ghaley" Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ghaley" Gang, Its interesting to note that Charles White of Houston purchased his Mk 3 in 1998 and it came stock with two 7.5 gal fuel tanks. I wanted to retro-fit mine with the same set up but when I ask Kolb about it they said they did not ever supply 7.5 gal tanks. Must have been the Old Kolb Co. Maybe someone like John who knows the old staff could find out. Charles and I will be at Sun-n-Fun so if you are there take a look, its a nice set-up. Gary, Houston, TX ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:34 AM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Survery For A Southeast Flyin --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > I was just sittin' here wondering how many of you folks live within flyin' > or travelin' distance to the Chattanooga, TN area and would be willing to > make this trip? Doug Doug/Gang: I didn't have to think long about answering your post. SURE! Let's go for it. I think any flyin, especially informal, is an A+ for ultralight and light plane aviation. I believe I can make as long as it does not conflict with already planned events. Next weekend is the Panama City Beach Run to Panacea, Florida, along the barrier islands of North Florida. First week of April is Sun and Fun. Middle of May is the First Annual Totally Informal Kolb (and others) Flyin/Drivein. Other than those, I am free to go. Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:45 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: Wow, Two 7.5 gallon plastic cans to replace the stock 5 gallon cans! Sounds like the perfect simple solution for me also. Hope someone out there locates a source for em. Denny Rowe do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: ghaley Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Tanks > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ghaley" > > Gang, > Its interesting to note that Charles White of Houston > purchased his Mk 3 in 1998 and it came stock with two 7.5 > gal fuel tanks. > I wanted to retro-fit mine with the same set up but when I > ask Kolb about it they said they did not ever supply 7.5 gal > tanks. Must have been the Old Kolb Co. > Maybe someone like John who knows the old staff could find > out. > Charles and I will be at Sun-n-Fun so if you are there take > a look, its a nice set-up. > Gary, Houston, TX > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:10 AM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > Its interesting to note that Charles White of Houston > purchased his Mk 3 in 1998 and it came stock with two 7.5 > gal fuel tanks. > Gary, Houston, TX Gary/Gang: News to me. Never heard of 7.5 gal plastic tanks in Mark III. Course, that doesn't mean much. Maybe someone else has. Undoubtedly, Charles White knows. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:03 AM PST US From: EnaudZ@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel "bag" --> Kolb-List message posted by: EnaudZ@aol.com Hi Gang I am looking for a fuel "bag" to transport and mix gas in n not for flying. anyone Know where ican find one? Duane Z fs2 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:53:56 AM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel "bag" --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > I am looking for a fuel "bag" to transport and mix gas in > > n > not for flying. anyone Know where ican find one? > Duane Z Hi Duane/Gang: Try a search for ("fuel+bladder") on Google. You will be amazed at the hits you will get. I just did. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:42:27 AM PST US From: Jimmy Subject: Kolb-List: Plantation Fly In Kolb-List --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jimmy The Plantation Flying Club is planning a Fly-in for the 10th of May. We know there is activity of other fly-in's during May. We are located at JYL, Sylvania, Ga. Between Savannah and Augusta Ga. This will be our first and hope that we will have good attendance. Lunch will be served. Plenty of parking for aircraft. Lat 32* 38.73' N. Long 81*35.79' W. Runway 5/23 - 5000x100 Paved. Runway 15/33 - 3800x75 Paved. 5 and 15 right traffic. Unicom 122.8 Beacon All GA and Ultralight aircraft welcome. Restroom and fuel available, 100LL. Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Rocky Ford, Ga. 30455 jhankin@planters.net Kolb Firefly/447/240hrs Local field, Pegasus/2000/Grass Airport JYL/Sylvania, Ga. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 12:02:51 PM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: extra fuel --> Kolb-List message posted by: Everybody, especially with Mark IIIs, wants more fuel. Wonder if TNK knows that? john h DO NOT ARCHIVE TOK knew boyd ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:23 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Kirk Thanks for the information. I'll check them out. 3 lbs is not much. Jim Ballenger Flying a FS KXP 447 Building a MK III X Virginia Beach, VA DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" > > > > I am building a MK 3 X and looking for more gas capacity. Can you > provide > > > some more information on the 16 gallon tank you ordered? > > > Thanks > > > Jim Ballenger > > > Jim, > > I'm using 2 spun aluminum fuel tanks, 9 gal each. Can get them at many > dune buggy places. Many sizes , some end fill and some center fill. I'm > mounting mine vertically in approximately the same location as the plastic > stock ones go. Mine are 10 inch diameter and 30 inches long. One on each > side the boom tube. I believe they weigh about 3lbs each. Still have to come > up with a gage though. Kirk > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:43 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" John I have talked to Linda and Ray at TNK about larger fuel tanks. Ray said he would look around at Sun-N-Fun this year. Jim Ballenger Flying a FS KXP 447 Building a MK III X Virginia Beach, VA DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > > J > > I am building a MK 3 X and looking for more gas capacity. Can you provide > > some more information on the 16 gallon tank you ordered? > > Thanks > > Jim Ballenger > > Jim/Gang: > > Everybody, especially with Mark IIIs, wants more > fuel. Wonder if TNK knows that? > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:49 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Bob Thanks for the information. How much does the tank weigh? Jim Ballenger Flying a FS KXP 447 Building a MK III X Virginia Beach, VA DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com > > > > > > >> Bob > >> I am building a MK 3 X and looking for more gas capacity. Can you > >> provide > >> some more information on the 16 gallon tank you ordered? > >> > > > Jim, Check out www.speedwaymotors.com Check out their (fuel cells).. The > one I got #4580458 allows me to put in my own fittings and to locate the fill > where I want. These tanks are designed for racing and street cars. They also > have a nice little 8 gal. with a 2" sump and have tanks right up to 32 gal. > My 16 gal tank is going to be mounted on edge behind the seats and costs > $84.95 > > Fly Safe > Bob Griffin > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 01:23:33 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Don't much like blowing my own horn, but I am real happy with the 15+ gallons I have on mine, and where it is. (Out of the way) http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 05:08 PM 2/13/03 +0000, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: l.teets@att.net > >I do not have enough fuel capicity on my Kolb,10 Gallon factory tanks >only.Need >some ideas on how to get more fuel on board. > > Help Stop Spam! Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life. Thanks! And have a blessed day. rp ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 01:31:00 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Survery For A Southeast Flyin --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike You have two interested in Kingsport area. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 11:59 AM 2/13/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" > >Hey Kolbers, > >I was just sittin' here wondering how many of you folks live within flyin' >or travelin' distance to the Chattanooga, TN area and would be willing to >make this trip? > >I'm thinking about maybe startin' an annual Springtime UL Flyin, Cookout, >Campover......whatever you want to call it at our airport just NW of >Chattanooga. >Let me know what you think and if we get enough response, I'll try to put it >together. > >Doug Lawton >NE Georgia & Whitwell TN > >Mathews Field on the Sectionals > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:43 PM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: Recent flights --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Fellow Kolbers, The weather was good here in Texas for a few days that allowed me to fly 18.3 hours this week. I got to fly a NASA employee around on Monday and do a survey of the first 47 miles of the shuttle Columbia flight path after they lost it's signal. They will use the information we gathered to determine what kind of search will need to be done over that area. Tuesday I departed on my River Run trip. That was a site seeing trip of 328 nautical miles down the Mississippi River. I joined the river at Greenville, MS and flew down river to the mouth of the river well south of New Orleans. I stayed as close to the river as possible with a detour around the airspace at Baton Rouge and New Orleans. To get in the site seeing, I had to fly a total of 1150.6 nautical miles. I have updated my website so more information and photos can be seen at: http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/Kolbra_Flight_Adventures.htm John Williamson Arlington, TX N49KK, Kolb Kolbra, Jabiru 2200, 201 hours http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/ DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 02:06:34 PM PST US From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" > Kirk > Thanks for the information. I'll check them out. 3 lbs is not much. > Jim Ballenger Your welcome, That's on the baby scales at home so it could be off a pound or so. Still very light. Snuffy DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:49 PM PST US From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Recent flights --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" > I got to fly a NASA employee around on Monday and do a survey of the first > 47 miles of the shuttle Columbia flight path after they lost it's signal. > They will use the information we gathered to determine what kind of search > will need to be done over that area. Now that's the kind of stuff we need more of. A big plus for the ultralight/light plane community. Good going!!!! :o) DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 02:32:29 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > Don't much like blowing my own horn, but I am real happy with the 15+ > gallons I have on mine, and where it is. (Out of the way) > > http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm > > Richard Pike Richard/Gang: That is slicker than snot....... I have room for one of those on my Mark III. Let's see. That would bring my total up to about 40 gals. hehehe john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 02:48:09 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Recent flights --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > The weather was good here in Texas for a few days that allowed me to fly > 18.3 hours this week. > John Williamson Hi John/Gang: The grass is not growing under your feet. Great! Making me itchy sitting here looking at your pictures and planned flights. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 04:33:03 PM PST US From: "Mark German" Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark German" Kolb list Looks like some of us need to have a larger fuel tank for our Kolbs. I have built several tanks for a variety of aircraft over the years and have installed a 14-gal custom tank in my new Kolbra-912. I own a small metal fab shop and can do this type of work. I would be glad to help anyone that needs a tank. We can fab to any size and design you need. Most tanks we make are 5052-H32 .050 Alu. and tig welded. We try to keep weld seam to a minn. We also make all the fittings that need to be welded in location. Mark German Kolbra-912 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tail Boom to cage From: CaptainRon --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon 2/13/03 8:04Richard Pike > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > At 06:38 AM 2/13/03 -0700, you wrote: > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "CaptainRon" >> >> Thanks Richard. >> >> Did you next put the cage on the gear or did you continue to work on it >> sitting on the floor? >> I am tempted to stick it on the gear so I can move it around if I need to. >> But aint sure if that will cause problems with some other stuff. > > I had the gear legs in, tail boom in, and then covered it. Without the > engine, I could pick it up by the front end of the cage, move it around, or > tip it over to work on the bottom of the cage. And it was at a good height. > Just stuck an old bolt & wing nut through the gear leg bolt holes, took the > gear out when it was on it's side or back if I wanted to. Or left them in. > > One thing I would do different if I had it to do over again. The upper > fuselage between the wings that is part of the cage and is fabric covered / > lower part of the gap seal: After aligning and drilling the holes to attach > the wings, lift struts, etc had been done, I did not notice that the two > outside cage tubes were not congruent with the lower edges of the wing > ribs. After all the covering and painting was done, put everything together > and realized that while the fabric covered part of the cage and the lower > part of the wing were a good match at the back of the wing, at the point > about three inches back of where the main spar attaches, there is about > 3/4" difference. Same on both sides. If I had it to do over again, I would > have taken a torch to those outside tubes, heated and tweaked them into > aligning with the lower edge of the rib before I got too far along. Not a > big deal, but if you are trying to make as efficient a wing as possible, (I > would like to put lower gap seals over that gap) or if you just plain want > everything to be "Right", it would have been easier earlier. Not now. > Fixing it now would be more trouble than it is worth. > > Or maybe New Kolb has aligned it better since my cage? Or maybe I should > have disregarded the angle shown in the construction book, and just aligned > the wing to the cage? (I don't think so!!) > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > ============================= Excellent advice, I will do it as you suggest. I may have some more questions as I proceed. I am sure mine will not be anywhere near show quality nor do I care, but getting it right more often than wrong is a goal. Mmmm talking about names maybe I should call my project the Aerial-Experiment. :-) do not archive. > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 06:11:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks From: CaptainRon --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon 2/13/03 17:35Mark German > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark German" > > Kolb list > Looks like some of us need to have a larger fuel tank for our Kolbs. I have > built several tanks for a variety of aircraft over the years and have > installed a 14-gal custom tank in my new Kolbra-912. I own a small metal > fab shop and can do this type of work. I would be glad to help anyone that > needs a tank. We can fab to any size and design you need. Most tanks we > make are 5052-H32 .050 Alu. and tig welded. We try to keep weld seam to a > minn. We also make all the fittings that need to be welded in location. > Mark German > Kolbra-912 > >===================== Hi Mark. can you give me a ball park figure for a custom tank that will fit right above the Tail boom. Well scratch that I'll send you some measurments, next time I am in the hanger. I think I would want it to hold about 20-25 gallons. Later ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:17 PM PST US From: "Frank Reynen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Reynen" Tempo makes a 6 Gall tapered marine tank that fits behind your the std 5 Gall jugs for less than $40 in a MKIII All you need is a saddle to mount it to your boom tube and a fuel line with a "T" to connect to your fuel line. See www.webcom.com/reynen under the"tech info" link below the picture of the 912 installed with the reversed carbs. Been flying with this already for 4 years. Frank Reynen MKIII/912 / Amphib Lotus floats@ 735 hrs ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 > --> Kolb-List message posted by: l.teets@att.net > > I do not have enough fuel capicity on my Kolb,10 Gallon factory tanks only.Need > some ideas on how to get more fuel on board. > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:08 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks Kolb Mark 111 --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > See www.webcom.com/reynen under the"tech info" link below the picture of the > 912 installed with the reversed carbs. > Been flying with this already for 4 years. > > Frank Reynen MKIII/912 / Amphib Lotus floats@ 735 hrs Frank/Gang: Thought about you when I saw the way the carbs were mounted on the BMW powered Mark III. I am still flying mine backwards, carbs in the wind. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:18 PM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Kolb-List: Adding a Primer to a Bing Carburetor --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart Snow and wind have kept the FireFly in the hangar for most of the year, less than two hours. But I have been working to make things a little better/easier. For cold weather a primer would be wonderful, but the standard set up with the primer up front and tubing running back to the carburetor was too much weight to give up. I took a primer pump from a discarded weed wacker engine, and mounted on the Bing float bowl, and plumbed it to a small shut off valve that is mounted on the Bing primer port. The system can be seen at: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly89.html Got to fly today for about a half an hour. It was great. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:58 PM PST US From: "Jim and Phyllis Hefner" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John's Articles --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim and Phyllis Hefner" John, thanks for posting these stories of your Alaska flights. Really fun reading and can't imagine what an experience and satifaction of achieving your goal!! Us newbies on the list are all in awe (at least thisone is!) Congratulations and thanks again for digging it out and sharing yourgreat adventures. I guess the MV flight will be a puddle jump after trips like that! Jim Hefner Tucson, Time: 03:50:56 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John's Articles -- Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck If any of you have not read about John's trips to Alaska, then grab a pot of coffee, get comfortable and settle back for a real adventure. Arizona Dave Arizona Dave/Gang: To most of the people on this List, the Alaska stuff is old hat. They had to listen to me plan. Then prepare. Then they had to listen to me fly. And since then, they have had to listen to me reminisce about the flights. For the new guys, I hope you get as much out of them as Arizona Dave has. Does my heart good to get reactions like that. I am glad you enjoyed my flights. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:24 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John's Articles --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > I guess the MV flight will be a puddle jump after trips like that! > > Jim Hefner Jim/Gang: Thanks Jim. They are all exciting. Long flights are made up of a lot of short legs. Put the little legs together to make a long flight. I enjoy them all. To be able to levitate in a machine that I built in my basement, then fly it all over God's creation with almost complete freedom of when and where I want to, is almost too good to be true. Sometimes I have to pinch myself to make sure I am awake and not dreaming. I haven't been anywhere except Lakeland in the last two years. Looking forward to getting out and stretching my wings. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 09:14:08 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Big nanny watching --> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com In a message dated 02/12/2003 9:45:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, rwpike@charter.net writes: > Big nanny is watching you. Put on your seatbelt, strap your kid in the car > seat, fasten your helmet, put out your cigarette, and do what you're told. > Add to that your "Car/Cell Phone" for crimeminy sakes! Do Not Archive Bill Varnes Original FireStar Audubon NJ