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1. 01:55 AM - Re: Adding a Primer to a Bing Carburetor (John Cooley)
2. 03:53 AM - Re: fuel tank (Airgriff2@aol.com)
3. 03:58 AM - Has anyone....??? (Alderson, James)
4. 04:03 AM - Re: John's Articles (Airgriff2@aol.com)
5. 06:11 AM - Shock absorbers (Kirk Smith)
6. 06:29 AM - Re: John's Articles (John Hauck)
7. 06:41 AM - Re: Has anyone....??? (Richard Pike)
8. 08:15 AM - Oil Thermostats (William George)
9. 09:01 AM - Re: Oil Thermostats (John Hauck)
10. 10:29 AM - Engine overheating question... (Alderson, James)
11. 11:45 AM - Address change (JaGifford@aol.com)
12. 12:31 PM - Re: John's Articles (Don Gherardini)
13. 12:58 PM - Re: Has anyone....??? (woody)
14. 01:01 PM - Fuel Tanks (jrodebush)
15. 01:08 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (Mark German)
16. 01:28 PM - Re: Engine overheating question... (Richard Pike)
17. 01:55 PM - Re: Has anyone....??? (Alderson, James)
18. 02:19 PM - Re: John's Articles (John Hauck)
19. 02:27 PM - Re: Fuel Tanks (John Hauck)
20. 02:37 PM - Booster Bottle & Bing (Jack & Louise Hart)
21. 02:50 PM - cg (Jim)
22. 03:20 PM - Re: cg (John Hauck)
23. 03:33 PM - Re: Kolb Snowbirds (abbygirlk9)
24. 03:53 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (CaptainRon)
25. 04:49 PM - 503 for sale (Fackler, Ken)
26. 05:38 PM - Re: Shock absorbers (Gary robert voigt)
27. 07:55 PM - Re: Has anyone....??? ()
28. 08:27 PM - Stick grips Attention James Alderson ()
29. 08:49 PM - Re: Fuel Tanks (Vincehallam@aol.com)
30. 08:57 PM - Re: cg (Richard Pike)
31. 09:05 PM - Re: Booster Bottle & Bing (Vincehallam@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Adding a Primer to a Bing Carburetor |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
> Snow and wind have kept the FireFly in the hangar for most of the year,
less than two hours. But I have been working to make things a little
better/easier. For cold weather a primer would be wonderful, but the
standard set up with the primer up front and tubing running back to the
carburetor was too much weight to give up. I took a primer pump from a
discarded weed wacker engine, and mounted on the Bing float bowl, and
plumbed it to a small shut off valve that is mounted on the Bing primer
port.
>
> The system can be seen at:
>
> http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly89.html
>
> Got to fly today for about a half an hour. It was great.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Jackson, MO
Hi Jack / Gang,
Jack you continue to amaze me with the ideals you conjure up and apply to
your plane. On another note, I got the Firestar out Wednesday and took her
for a flight totaling 2 hours. First flight since October 30 and it sure was
nice. Weather was around 72 degrees during the hot part of the day. The
afternoon flying was very smooth and nice. Stopped by to visit Ronnie Smith
and saw a plane in the field when coming in. Come to find out someone was
coming in on final with full flaps and a small side wind got them. Good
reason to fly Kolbs. This was one of them flying boats. It spread eagle the
landing gear. I helped Thomas Smith get it to the hanger and I made the
comment to Thomas, after seeing some of the structure and stuff, that I
wouldn't fly in such a tub. I think the empty weight was 850 lbs or so. It
did have a Rotax 912 for power though.
"do not archive"
Later,
John Cooley
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
>
> >>
>> Bob
>> Thanks for the information. How much does the tank weigh?
>> Jim Ballenger
>>
>
Jim, my tank arrived yesterday. 16 gal, black poly, just under 11lbs.
Fly safe
Bob griffin
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| Subject: | Has anyone....??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
Hello listers,
Two things I want to put into my new Kolb to make it somewhat me. I want to
replace the throttle control with a new cooler two control throttle
quadrant. Anyone run into problems with this?
The other thing is the grip on the control stick. I wanted to embed a ptt
for my radio as I don't like the velcro one that I have (It was all I could
use on the trike as there was only a suspended control bar). I looked in
Aircraft Spruce and found there are quite a few "fighter jet" looking grips
out there and wondering if there is anything to watch out for in putting one
of these in. I hear alot of you guys talking on here and on your web sites
about straffing runs. I think the fighter style grip would add to the fun
level....maybe I can hook up a machine gun sound (inside only of course)
into the intercom that is hooked up to the trigger..... or not.
James Alderson
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| Subject: | Re: John's Articles |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
>
> >> I haven't been anywhere except Lakeland in the
>> last two years. Looking forward to getting out
>> and stretching my wings.
>>
>> john h
>>
>
Hey John, don't forget "Miss P fer" flew to Kentucky. I know because I got a
ride. I will never forget that day !!!
Fly safe
Bob Griffin
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Has anybody ever toyed with shock absorbers on the Mark 3 landing gear? I've seen
some for dune buggies that only weight 2 pounds each. Gas filled. ????????
Snuffy
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: John's Articles |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Hey John, don't forget "Miss P fer" flew to Kentucky. I know because I got a
> ride. I will never forget that day !!!
> Fly safe
> Bob Griffin
Morning Bob/Gang:
You are absolutely correct. Had forgotten about
that one. We had a great time. However, for me,
was a very short weekend. Got there late Saturday
and departed about noon Sunday. Hopefully, the
weather will be better next year.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Has anyone....??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
I have a two control quadrant mounted alongside my left thigh, (flying from
the left seat). Works great. I welded a few tabs in place with blind nuts
on the back before covering the inside of the fuselage.
For a push to talk, I use a Radio Shack momentary button switch that fits
into a homemade washer that sits right atop the stick. Wrap it with black
electrical tape to hold it in place, and then slip the handgrip over it.
But those fighter grips in the Spruce catalog do look cool.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Do Not Archive
At 04:57 AM 2/14/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James"
><James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
>
>Hello listers,
>
>Two things I want to put into my new Kolb to make it somewhat me. I want to
>replace the throttle control with a new cooler two control throttle
>quadrant. Anyone run into problems with this?
>The other thing is the grip on the control stick. I wanted to embed a ptt
>for my radio as I don't like the velcro one that I have (It was all I could
>use on the trike as there was only a suspended control bar). I looked in
>Aircraft Spruce and found there are quite a few "fighter jet" looking grips
>out there and wondering if there is anything to watch out for in putting one
>of these in. I hear alot of you guys talking on here and on your web sites
>about straffing runs. I think the fighter style grip would add to the fun
>level....maybe I can hook up a machine gun sound (inside only of course)
>into the intercom that is hooked up to the trigger..... or not.
>James Alderson
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
Hi John and Gang,
I have been gradually duct taping the oil cooler on the Verner and on the
last flight had it completely taped over. Still can't get the oil temp above
65-70c. Since the oil tank is sitting out in the breeze perhaps it is
providing "automatic" cooling. Duuno.
I'd be interested in the thermostat.
do not archive
Bill George
Kolb Mk-3/Verner1400SVS/Powerfin 68" "F"
> From: Kolb-List Digest Server <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:56:14 -0800
> To: Kolb-List Digest List <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 43 Msgs - 02/13/03
>
> Sunff/Gang:
>
> These folks also have oil thermostats for about
> $54.00. Before I go that route though, I will
> check with Rotax and get a reading from them. So
> far, the only information I have is what I read
> about CPS selling them.
>
> john h
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Thermostats |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I have been gradually duct taping the oil cooler on the Verner and on the
> last flight had it completely taped over. Still can't get the oil temp above
> 65-70c. Since the oil tank is sitting out in the breeze perhaps it is
> providing "automatic" cooling. Duuno.
> Bill George
Hi Bill/Gang:
Last Sunday, OAT 38-40F, radiator taped 50%, oil
cooler piggy backed behind radiator, eng oil temp
long climbout was 230F. Cruise 5,000 rpm resulted
in 210F eng oil and cyl head temps. My oil tank
is mounted in front of engine, on top of root
tube, most of tank is exposed to airstream. The
oil tank provides a lot of cooling. Some folks
have used blanket sleeves to retain heat in tank.
According to what Rotax is spouting reference
912/912S oil systems being pretty finicky, I
hesitate to start experiementing with a system
that has not been thoroughly tested on the
engines. I will let somebody else take the risk
of ruining an engine and quite possibly an
airplane. I have done enough test flying in my
day.
The gaffers tape on the radiator works good for
me. I have been able to keep the oil temps above
190F (minimum operating oil temp) that way in the
winter time. Summer is no problem.
Now, there is a tremendous difference between eng
oil temps at my cruise of 5,000, again at 5,200,
and at climb rpm of 5,200 to 5,300 rpm WOT, and
say reduced power at 4,800 rpm and lower. When I
back off 5,000 the temps fall dramatically.
If the temps are not kept above 190F in the 912
series engines, condensation and blow by solvents
are not burned off and the oil gets thoroughly
contaminated.
I really have no problem with my Red and Green
Duct Tape Remedy for now.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Engine overheating question... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
Hello listers,
Yet another question for ya'll.....
I keep hearing about engine temps that go either one way or another. I flew
a 503 that ran perfectly within spec the entire time I had it on my trike,
and there is a 503 on my new FSII. I guess I have never thought of what to
do if the temps go way up, but if they do, what is the proper sequence of
events to follow? So, for example, I am flying along and one of the EGT's
spikes wayyyy up. Do I find a place to land and just let the engine sit at
idle so the fan keeps running and I have power if I need it, or do I shut
the engine off so it doesn't seize while I am trying to land?
James Alderson
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| Subject: | Re: John's Articles |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
I have just finished a pot of coffee, and reading of John Haucks "perimeter
trip" to alaska an beyond!
I really cant think of words to describe the inspiration I feel, so i will
just say this,
Thank you John, you truely are an inspiration, and I look forward to meeting
you at some future fly-in.
Actually I think I probably have already met you..maybe at London this year.
(I was the Kolb newbie with the partial Firefly on the trailer behind the
white ford van .)or oshkosh..or somewhere...but didnt know of this
accomplishment, so the next time I see you i will be looking thru slightly
awed eyes sir.
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: Has anyone....??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
I have a dual throttle in my modified MK111 (Thunderbird) No problem. I
run a hard link between my new rotating shaft and the original throttle
handle. I guess you could say I have 3 throttle controls. I welded my
control parts onto the frame but on the club Mk111 we made a bolt on unit.
Both work great.
Andy uses a computer joystick control. I found it at a second hand
store for 3 bucks. 5 buttons. 3 of those buttons are used to switch his EIS
unit. One is for push to talk and the other is not used yet. Perhaps sound
effects could be added to this. Very handy thing to have.
Rereading your message I am wondering. When you want a cooler quadrant
with 2 controls did you mean you want the levers side by side so you can
work the throttle and choke at the same time or to have individual
throttles like I assumed you meant.
At 04:57 AM 2/14/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James"
><James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
>
>Hello listers,
>
>Two things I want to put into my new Kolb to make it somewhat me. I want to
>replace the throttle control with a new cooler two control throttle
>quadrant. Anyone run into problems with this?
>The other thing is the grip on the control stick. I wanted to embed a ptt
>for my radio as I don't like the velcro one that I have (It was all I could
>use on the trike as there was only a suspended control bar). I looked in
>Aircraft Spruce and found there are quite a few "fighter jet" looking grips
>out there and wondering if there is anything to watch out for in putting one
>of these in. I hear alot of you guys talking on here and on your web sites
>about straffing runs. I think the fighter style grip would add to the fun
>level....maybe I can hook up a machine gun sound (inside only of course)
>into the intercom that is hooked up to the trigger..... or not.
>James Alderson
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jrodebush" <jrodebush@cinci.rr.com>
> >Time: 12:52:43 PM PST US
> >From: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
> >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
>
> >John
> >I have talked to Linda and Ray at TNK about larger fuel tanks. Ray said he
> >would look around at Sun-N-Fun this year
Hi guys,
Finally trying to get back to building a Kolb. Had a major home renovation project,
a motorcycle rebuild and then tendonitis in the right elbow but that's
on the mend. Looked at my builder's log & realized I hadn't done any Kolb work
for over a year! Couldn't believe it. Got to get myself fired up again.
Anyway, I ordered a larger tank option with my Mark III X-tra (16 or 18 gallons).
Later the factory advised that it was no longer offered & gave me a refund.
I think that was when Danny was President and TNK was on a kick to make a
super light Mark III. I think someone from the factory also mentioned C.G concerns.
Maybe TNK is going to rethink that.
The two 10" X 30" tubes sound like a good solution. Great idea! Thanks!
Rex Rodebush
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark German" <aerofab@worldnet.att.net>
Ron:
Material cost is about $70.00 for a sheet of material 48"x 96". Labor would
run from 6-10 Hrs of work to layout and cut, bend and weld as required.
Most of the cost is in the man hrs. We also need to build the fitting you
need to get fuel form the tank to the motor. Also vent and drain fittings.
It is easy to spend $50-100 on a nice fuel cap. The best way is to make
some drawings of the size tank. After this review a cardboard mock-up is
made and this is what we can build the tank from. My shop rate is $40.00
per hr. But when aircraft is involved we are glad to help out.
Hope this answer's some of your questions.
Mark German
Kolbra-912
-- Original Message -----
From: "CaptainRon" <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
>
> 2/13/03 17:35Mark German
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark German"
<aerofab@worldnet.att.net>
> >
> > Kolb list
> > Looks like some of us need to have a larger fuel tank for our Kolbs. I
have
> > built several tanks for a variety of aircraft over the years and have
> > installed a 14-gal custom tank in my new Kolbra-912. I own a small
metal
> > fab shop and can do this type of work. I would be glad to help anyone
that
> > needs a tank. We can fab to any size and design you need. Most tanks
we
> > make are 5052-H32 .050 Alu. and tig welded. We try to keep weld seam to
a
> > minn. We also make all the fittings that need to be welded in location.
> > Mark German
> > Kolbra-912
> >
> >=====================
>
> Hi Mark.
> can you give me a ball park figure for a custom tank that will fit right
> above the Tail boom. Well scratch that I'll send you some measurments,
next
> time I am in the hanger.
>
> I think I would want it to hold about 20-25 gallons.
>
> Later
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine overheating question... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
First: get above a BIG field. Then experiment.
I think I would first pitch the nose up and load the engine and see what
the egt's did then.
Does the normal one drop? It should. Does the hot one drop? It should.
Then pull the choke on
Once again look for the egt's to drop.
If the normal one drops, but the other one doesn't, it could be a bad
gauge. Maybe.
Any time you have an egt that suddenly goes way up, (assuming it is not
some mechanical act of the engine starting to genuinely destroy itself,)
you should be able to drop the egt by dumping in extra fuel. Even if you
have just blown a seal, it should still come down some. The other thing you
can do is come back to a fast idle, it is unlikely to sustain a high egt at
3,000 rpm.
If the egt suddenly goes real high, but it is still running smooth and
producing normal power, and I think it is not the gauge gone bad, these
would be my guesses and options:
Blown seal, or gasket -air leak. This might survive for a while at partial
power. Think in terms of extending your flight to a suitable field, and get
the power down to minimum useful, and it may not damage anything. (Remember
that a fast glide at partial power raises egt's.)
Carb obstruction - lean fuel mix. Same as above, extended glide.
Preignition - something glowing on the plug or inside the combustion
chamber. Same as above, or maybe worse.
Stuck rings - blowby. This can go real bad real quick. Stand by for sudden
silence.
Somebody on the list will cover what I have missed, right now that's all
that comes to mind.
And as far as your question of whether to idle your way down or just go
ahead and shut off - that depends on the size of the field you are over. If
it is a huge field, known to be good and flat, and you are convinced you
can land in it with no regrets: turn the engine off, glide down and land.
(You do practice engine out procedures, don't you?)
If you are above a marginal field, keep it running and look around for a
better field. If it blows because it ran one minute too long getting you to
a suitable field, so what? Your hide is worth more than what an engine
costs. You are better off to keep it running, maintain altitude and
sacrifice the engine to get you to a better field. After it gets you to an
acceptable field, then shut it off if you want to, and land.
Once you have made the decision to land, then it doesn't matter (except
financially) if you let it run or not, as long as you are mentally
committed to trust it even less than usual.
You asked a small question and got a big answer. Old Poops do that sort of
thing. Sorry...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 11:28 AM 2/14/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James"
><James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
>
>Hello listers,
>
>Yet another question for ya'll.....
>
>I keep hearing about engine temps that go either one way or another. I flew
>a 503 that ran perfectly within spec the entire time I had it on my trike,
>and there is a 503 on my new FSII. I guess I have never thought of what to
>do if the temps go way up, but if they do, what is the proper sequence of
>events to follow? So, for example, I am flying along and one of the EGT's
>spikes wayyyy up. Do I find a place to land and just let the engine sit at
>idle so the fan keeps running and I have power if I need it, or do I shut
>the engine off so it doesn't seize while I am trying to land?
>
>James Alderson
>
>
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| Subject: | Has anyone....??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
I was looking for a cooler throttle quadrant as in side by side. It would be
nice to have the choke there too... even possibly the electric start (if I
ever install one) could be located here, although its prewired under the
left leg of the pilot now, so I might just leave it there... Thanks for the
answer though...
I would love to find out how you put the EIS button controls into a
joystick. I really haven't started playing with any of this stuff yet, can't
wait.
PS - I have found a trainer with a Kolb Mark III, his name came from a list
member here in Charlotte (THANKS Jim!!!!!). Unfortunately we are coming into
the windy season here in NC (so I am told, I never really noticed before I
started flying) so I will have to take my chances on a 5 hour drive, but in
type training is worth it to me. In the meantime I will be using a
flightstarII and a Rans S6 Coyote II taildragger to do training in, its all
good.
James.
-----Original Message-----
From: woody [mailto:duesouth@govital.net]
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Has anyone....???
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
I have a dual throttle in my modified MK111 (Thunderbird) No problem. I
run a hard link between my new rotating shaft and the original throttle
handle. I guess you could say I have 3 throttle controls. I welded my
control parts onto the frame but on the club Mk111 we made a bolt on unit.
Both work great.
Andy uses a computer joystick control. I found it at a second hand
store for 3 bucks. 5 buttons. 3 of those buttons are used to switch his EIS
unit. One is for push to talk and the other is not used yet. Perhaps sound
effects could be added to this. Very handy thing to have.
Rereading your message I am wondering. When you want a cooler quadrant
with 2 controls did you mean you want the levers side by side so you can
work the throttle and choke at the same time or to have individual
throttles like I assumed you meant.
At 04:57 AM 2/14/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James"
><James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
>
>Hello listers,
>
>Two things I want to put into my new Kolb to make it somewhat me. I want to
>replace the throttle control with a new cooler two control throttle
>quadrant. Anyone run into problems with this?
>The other thing is the grip on the control stick. I wanted to embed a ptt
>for my radio as I don't like the velcro one that I have (It was all I could
>use on the trike as there was only a suspended control bar). I looked in
>Aircraft Spruce and found there are quite a few "fighter jet" looking grips
>out there and wondering if there is anything to watch out for in putting
one
>of these in. I hear alot of you guys talking on here and on your web sites
>about straffing runs. I think the fighter style grip would add to the fun
>level....maybe I can hook up a machine gun sound (inside only of course)
>into the intercom that is hooked up to the trigger..... or not.
>James Alderson
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> (I was the Kolb newbie with the partial Firefly on the trailer behind the
> white ford van .)or oshkosh..or somewhere...but didnt know of this
> accomplishment, so the next time I see you i will be looking thru slightly
> awed eyes sir.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
> Don Gherardini-
Don/Gang:
Hope that is not permanent. :-)
Thanks for the kind words.
Just goes to show, this is one sport you can have
fun with after 60.
Look forward to meeting you again also.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
I think someone from the factory also mentioned
C.G concerns.
> Rex Rodebush
Rex/Gang:
I have never built, loaded down, and flown a Kolb
aircraft that had a CG problem. I have mentioned
this a time or two on this List.
On my MK III I put 150 lbs of fuel behind the cg.
Then I put another 100 lbs of gear, give or take a
few lbs, behind the cg. On top of that, I have
flown with 8" diameter pneumatic Maul tailwheels,
6" Scott solid TWs, and am presently flying with a
6" Maul solid TW. I also pushed that heavy 70"
Warp Drive 3 bladed prop 4" behind the Rotax prop
flange. My battery sits on the cg in its orginal
location, except it is on the left side rather
than the right.
Oh, the only additional thing in the nose of the
MK III is my feet and boots.
No cg problem on my airplane.
john h
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| Subject: | Booster Bottle & Bing |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
When the weather is bad and I can't fly, I work on things that I believe will make
the FireFly better or more fun to fly. This winter has been the worst since
1995, in that, there have not been many good days for flying. The cold is
ok, but this winter has been rain, snow, snow, and more snow, and along with it
high winds. So I have had time to work on many little projects.
When I was trying to get better fuel economy out of the Rotax 447, I found booster
bottles. I did not pursue it at that time. When I discovered the Victor
1+ had the same problem of increasing fuel flow rates as the throttle was closed,
I realized it was not the Bing carburetor that was at fault. It is basic
problem of intake manifold tuning mis match at the lower rpms. I purchased a
spare carburetor, and started working with it to come up with a way to get a booster
bottle on the Victor 1+. The first version is ready for test, but I will
not be able to test it until the weather clears next week.
These Bing carburetor mods and a booster bottle explianation can be seen at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly90.html
Spending too much time fiddling and not flying.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
"I have never built, loaded down, and flown a Kolb
aircraft that had a CG problem. I have mentioned
this a time or two on this List.
No cg problem on my airplane.
john h"
John/others
Flying by myself in my Mark III I never had a cg problem either. But since I installed
a 532 and now can take a passanger, I seem to have a problem.
Over Thanksgiving I took my sons up for the first time. They are both adults over
200 lbs each. Even with trim all the way back I had to hold the stick all the
way back with a lot of pressure. In fact, I only flew each of them about 15-20
minutes because my arm got tired of holding back pressure on the stick. Any
comments?
Jim
Mark III
Charlotte, NC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Flying by myself in my Mark III I never had a cg problem either. But since I
installed a 532 and now can take a passanger, I seem to have a problem.
> Jim
Jim/Gang:
You didn't say how much you weighed, but probably
similar to your two Sons.
Without much weight in the rear, probably 10 gal
or less fuel (60 lbs), and two "big" guys up
front, it will take more nose up trim and effort
to keep the elevator up and the stick back.
During your 10-15 minute flights, I bet you kept
the power on, full at takeoff and cruise power
during level flight. Did you happen to bring the
throttle back to idle and let the MK III glide?
My MK III takes a lot of nose up trim, especially
with two people. The more power, the more nose
over tendancy. Sure the extra weight up front
increases the nose pitch down force, but it
biggest culprit is the high thrust line.
If I bring my Kolb back to idle, I can take all
the nose up trim off. Push the power back up and
the nose up trim comes back on.
I don't have more time to chat about it now. Got
to take Nell out for Valentines Day, but be glad
to talk about it tomorrow.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Snowbirds |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "abbygirlk9" <abbygirlk9@netzero.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "VIC" <vicw@vcn.com>
I have discovered that several Kolb list participants are also Arizona
Snowbirds so I propose that we have a Snowbird Gathering somewhere in the
Phoenix area before we all fly north. We can burn some burgers and tells
some flying stories. I suggest we also invite any other Kolb flyers that
wish to attend.
Vic
Do not archive
Hey Arizona Kolbers (& any other Kolb people in the Galaxy for that matter), ......KOLB
GET-TOGETHER & BBQ
On Sat March 1st in the Phoenix area Craig & Tim (aka "the Milows") will be hosting
a BBQ and Kolb bull-session. Vic had fronted the question a couple of days
back, and so thanks to Craig & Tim .it is on! Starting about 11 am and ending
whenever (4-ish?), this will be a BYOBB (beverage and BBQ meat item) and a
side dish to share. Although there is not a landing strip there is a grassy
commons where up to 30 planes can be placed/displayed ..you will have to trailer
it in if you want to show off. This event is kinda just get Kolb guys together
and share ideas, brag, lie, eat, look at neat stuff, etc. Craig is nearly
done (needs paint) on his really cool Mk III Extra 912 with an out-of-this-world
engine pod, Tim is pretty far along on his FS II, I may bring my custom FS
II trailer (if I get it inspected and registered by then), and hopefully others
will bring something to show off. Craig lives in a large cul-de-sac next
door to the grassy common area so there is lots of room for a good number of people.
If you want to come please email me at abbygirlk9@netzero.net or feldmann@phxhs.k12.az.us
and I will forward directions to Craig's in Gilbert, AZ.
So hey Jim, Captain Ron, Ken, other So. AZers, Arizona Dave, George, other No.
AZers, and others that are interested in dropping in let's hear from you, the
more the merrier and we will see where this might lead.
Stephen Feldmann
Glendale, AZ
FS II 430+ hrs construction time & counting
623-934-8654 hm 602-764-6045 wk
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
2/14/03 14:11Mark German
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark German" <aerofab@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Ron:
> Material cost is about $70.00 for a sheet of material 48"x 96". Labor would
> run from 6-10 Hrs of work to layout and cut, bend and weld as required.
> Most of the cost is in the man hrs. We also need to build the fitting you
> need to get fuel form the tank to the motor. Also vent and drain fittings.
> It is easy to spend $50-100 on a nice fuel cap. The best way is to make
> some drawings of the size tank. After this review a cardboard mock-up is
> made and this is what we can build the tank from. My shop rate is $40.00
> per hr. But when aircraft is involved we are glad to help out.
> Hope this answer's some of your questions.
>
> Mark German
> Kolbra-912
>
> -- Original Message -----
> From: "CaptainRon" <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tanks
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
>>
>> 2/13/03 17:35Mark German
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark German"
> <aerofab@worldnet.att.net>
>>>
>>> Kolb list
>>> Looks like some of us need to have a larger fuel tank for our Kolbs. I
> have
>>> built several tanks for a variety of aircraft over the years and have
>>> installed a 14-gal custom tank in my new Kolbra-912. I own a small
> metal
>>> fab shop and can do this type of work. I would be glad to help anyone
> that
>>> needs a tank. We can fab to any size and design you need. Most tanks
> we
>>> make are 5052-H32 .050 Alu. and tig welded. We try to keep weld seam to
> a
>>> minn. We also make all the fittings that need to be welded in location.
>>> Mark German
>>> Kolbra-912
>>>
>>> =====================
Yes thanks. Where I am wanting to install the tank could be a very busy
place for other stuff. So I'll waite till all the stuff in that area is
built up and then build the mock up.
I'll let you know.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
NEW 503 ROTAX engine with carb and muffer
ebay item number: 2403670473
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| Subject: | Re: Shock absorbers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Kirk/gang:
I have never flown a mark 3 but i see no reason to add that item. just fly the
thing to the ground like one is suppose to.
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
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Kirk Smith wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> Has anybody ever toyed with shock absorbers on the Mark 3 landing gear? I've
seen some for dune buggies that only weight 2 pounds each. Gas filled. ????????
Snuffy
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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| Subject: | Re: Has anyone....??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
James,
Check out the MAC stick grips in the Aircraft Spruce catalog. They have
grip switch set-ups from one button up to 6 functions. I have the G1 grip
which is a single push to talk set up and it adapted easily to my Mk-3
stick.
These grips seem to be the best bang for your buck.
Well I just looked them up in the new 2002-2003 catalog, page 378 and I see
that they changed the name to RAC. I guess the company must have been sold.
Anyway, check em out.
Denny Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: Alderson, James <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Has anyone....???
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James"
<James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
>
> I was looking for a cooler throttle quadrant as in side by side. It would
be
> nice to have the choke there too... even possibly the electric start (if I
> ever install one) could be located here, although its prewired under the
> left leg of the pilot now, so I might just leave it there... Thanks for
the
> answer though...
>
> I would love to find out how you put the EIS button controls into a
> joystick. I really haven't started playing with any of this stuff yet,
can't
> wait.
>
> PS - I have found a trainer with a Kolb Mark III, his name came from a
list
> member here in Charlotte (THANKS Jim!!!!!). Unfortunately we are coming
into
> the windy season here in NC (so I am told, I never really noticed before I
> started flying) so I will have to take my chances on a 5 hour drive, but
in
> type training is worth it to me. In the meantime I will be using a
> flightstarII and a Rans S6 Coyote II taildragger to do training in, its
all
> good.
>
> James.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: woody [mailto:duesouth@govital.net]
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Has anyone....???
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
>
> I have a dual throttle in my modified MK111 (Thunderbird) No problem. I
> run a hard link between my new rotating shaft and the original throttle
> handle. I guess you could say I have 3 throttle controls. I welded my
> control parts onto the frame but on the club Mk111 we made a bolt on unit.
> Both work great.
> Andy uses a computer joystick control. I found it at a second hand
> store for 3 bucks. 5 buttons. 3 of those buttons are used to switch his
EIS
> unit. One is for push to talk and the other is not used yet. Perhaps sound
> effects could be added to this. Very handy thing to have.
> Rereading your message I am wondering. When you want a cooler quadrant
> with 2 controls did you mean you want the levers side by side so you can
> work the throttle and choke at the same time or to have individual
> throttles like I assumed you meant.
>
>
> At 04:57 AM 2/14/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James"
> ><James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
> >
> >Hello listers,
> >
> >Two things I want to put into my new Kolb to make it somewhat me. I want
to
> >replace the throttle control with a new cooler two control throttle
> >quadrant. Anyone run into problems with this?
> >The other thing is the grip on the control stick. I wanted to embed a ptt
> >for my radio as I don't like the velcro one that I have (It was all I
could
> >use on the trike as there was only a suspended control bar). I looked in
> >Aircraft Spruce and found there are quite a few "fighter jet" looking
grips
> >out there and wondering if there is anything to watch out for in putting
> one
> >of these in. I hear alot of you guys talking on here and on your web
sites
> >about straffing runs. I think the fighter style grip would add to the fun
> >level....maybe I can hook up a machine gun sound (inside only of course)
> >into the intercom that is hooked up to the trigger..... or not.
> >James Alderson
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Stick grips Attention James Alderson |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
James,
I just went to www.menzimeraircraft.com to check out the grips that I mentioned
in my last post. The address is on the box my grip came in.
Under 'stick grips', they have excellent photos and info on the grips and their
features, check it out.
They are sweet.
Denny Rowe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Vincehallam@aol.com
Hi
Is there any type of safely fuel proof foam that could go into a
horizontally mounted 10 inch tube fuel tank for anti slosh?
Vnz
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Adjust your flaps and ailerons to raise their trailing edges until when you
are flying solo at minimum cruise power, the nose of the airplane rises
higher than before with no up elevator trim and the stable airspeed is
around 35-40. You will probably have raised the trailing edges of those
surfaces 1/4"- 3/4".
Now take up a passenger (Use a bunch of up elevator trim) and see if it's
not better.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 05:50 PM 2/14/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
>
>Flying by myself in my Mark III I never had a cg problem either. But since
>I installed a 532 and now can take a passanger, I seem to have a problem.
>
>Over Thanksgiving I took my sons up for the first time. They are both
>adults over 200 lbs each. Even with trim all the way back I had to hold
>the stick all the way back with a lot of pressure. In fact, I only flew
>each of them about 15-20 minutes because my arm got tired of holding back
>pressure on the stick. Any comments?
>
>Jim
>Mark III
>Charlotte, NC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Booster Bottle & Bing |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Vincehallam@aol.com
Jb Hart
Heplp I cant raise that booster bottle website What and how does that
system work?
Vnz
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