Kolb-List Digest Archive

Thu 02/20/03


Total Messages Posted: 30



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     1. 03:45 AM - Re: snow and more snow (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
     2. 04:32 AM - Re: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:56:07 -0800 (Kirk Smith)
     3. 06:10 AM - Re: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:56:07 -0800 (Timandjan@aol.com)
     4. 07:04 AM - props (Paul Petty)
     5. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:56:07 -0800 ()
     6. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:56:07 -0800 (Bruce n' Kathy)
     7. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:56:07 -0800 (John Williamson)
     8. 10:53 AM - Color- tune spark plugs? ()
     9. 11:47 AM - Rotax parts (Richard Pike)
    10. 11:52 AM - Re: Color- tune spark plugs? (John Hauck)
    11. 12:01 PM - Re: Fuel tanks (jerb)
    12. 12:02 PM - Re: Rotax parts (Peter Volum)
    13. 01:15 PM - Re: Rotax parts (Tom Olenik)
    14. 01:36 PM - belly tank (Mike Pierzina)
    15. 02:36 PM - Re: belly tank (Robert Laird)
    16. 02:59 PM - woody props (woody)
    17. 03:00 PM - Re: belly tank (Alderson, James)
    18. 03:19 PM - Re: Rotax parts (John Hauck)
    19. 03:22 PM - Re: belly tank (John Hauck)
    20. 03:49 PM - Re: woody props (Christopher Armstrong)
    21. 04:00 PM - Re: Rotax parts (Richard Pike)
    22. 04:09 PM - Re: Rotax parts (Richard Pike)
    23. 04:31 PM - Re: belly tank (Robert Laird)
    24. 05:41 PM - Re: woody props (CaptainRon)
    25. 05:43 PM - Re: Rotax parts (CaptainRon)
    26. 06:22 PM - Brake Lines (Peter Volum)
    27. 06:54 PM - Re: Brake Lines (Bob Bean)
    28. 07:09 PM - Re: Brake Lines (John Hauck)
    29. 07:18 PM - Re: Brake Lines (John Hauck)
    30. 07:25 PM - Re: Brake Lines (DAVID STROBERG)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:45:38 AM PST US
    From: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
    Subject: Re: snow and more snow
    message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:56:07 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) Since the list is a little slow.......the "blizzard of 2003" has kept the wife and I snowbound on the farm since last Saturday. Finally got the 3/8 mile driveway plowed yesterday (Wednesday) only to find the paved county road still untouched. Only thing moving was snowmobiles and a few 4-wheelers who'd buried themselves. Late in the afternoon, two dozers came in in tandem and cleared it. Storm totals for us are around 30 niches with drifts substantially more. My driveway looks like a bobsled run with snow piled about 6 feet high on either side. Kinda nice really. We have a freezer full of food and the wife bakes all our bread and pies sooo.... The FS looks like a bat....in the garage with her wings folded, all covered up with old sheets waiting for spring. Has a jack under the boom taking the weight off the tailspring. Her enclosed trailer has about 8 feet of snow piled around it. Looks like about mid-July before I get to try the FS inside for size. How about the rest of you guys? Ed in New York? Mike in WV (along I-79, 30 miles south of Pa) do not archive


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    Time: 04:32:59 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003
    23:56:07 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> bobsled run with snow piled about 6 feet high on either side. > about 8 feet of snow piled around it. . > How about the rest of you guys? Ed in New York? Send it too Paris.....:o) DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:10:45 AM PST US
    From: Timandjan@aol.com
    Subject: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:56:07
    -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com We got 28inches of snow here in Herndon, VA, suburb of DC. I bet I can't even get to my hangar doors in Warrengton, sure would like to fly in the snow, I bet it will be a while until the runway is snowless, not to mention dry enough after the expected rain this weekend. Only got stuck twice in my 4x4, wife once. I am ready to move somewhere warm. What a bummer, first season I have my Firestar 2 enclosed and with heat, so much snow, rain this winter, can't even fly. Tim DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:04:50 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: props
    SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Hey Folks! Was wondering, do any of you have a damaged or spare warp drive prop you would like to loan or sell cheap for my test engine? The "Beast" is mounted and I am near starting. Hopefully by this weekend I will have it running still just a few things let to do. After that I will be ready to make the redrive and mount the prop. Any prop will do really, wood,composite,ect... just want one similar to what is used on LSA. Photos coming soon!!!! Thanks pp... Do not archive


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    Time: 07:10:14 AM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003
    23:56:07 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Mike, I see you are only about 40 miles south of Mt Morris, PA. We used to motocross at High Point and often still attend the National there Memorial Day weekend. I'm 40 miles north-east of Pittsburgh and we have around 14" of snow on the ground. Looks like a little will melt over the next couple days, than we'll be right back down in the teens. "This has been the coldest winter in recorded history in this area" Maybe we can meet up flying this summer if all goes well with my bird. Denny Rowe Leechburg, PA Mark-3 N616DR 2SI 690L-70 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike and Dixie Shackelford <dixieshack@webtv.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:56:07 -0800 > --> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) > > Since the list is a little slow.......the "blizzard of 2003" has > kept the wife and I snowbound on the farm since last Saturday. Finally > got the 3/8 mile driveway plowed yesterday (Wednesday) only to find the > paved county road still untouched. Only thing moving was snowmobiles and > a few 4-wheelers who'd buried themselves. Late in the afternoon, two > dozers came in in tandem and cleared it. Storm totals for us are around > 30 niches with drifts substantially more. My driveway looks like a > bobsled run with snow piled about 6 feet high on either side. > Kinda nice really. We have a freezer full of food and the wife bakes > all our bread and pies sooo.... > The FS looks like a bat....in the garage with her wings folded, all > covered up with old sheets waiting for spring. Has a jack under the > boom taking the weight off the tailspring. Her enclosed trailer has > about 8 feet of snow piled around it. Looks like about mid-July before > I get to try the FS inside for size. > How about the rest of you guys? Ed in New York? > > Mike in WV > (along I-79, 30 miles south of Pa) > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:20:58 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce n' Kathy" <n3nrr@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003
    23:56:07 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce n' Kathy" <n3nrr@erols.com> Hay folks! I see lots of kolb members within 100miles my general area of Frederick, md, has anyone put together a list of members what they fly and where they are located? thanks Thurmont, md Sabre TRike Flying Kolb US Ready but not solo'd 6 chuter ppc -- Bruce n' Kathy


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    Time: 09:26:34 AM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
    Subject: Re: snow and more snow message of Wed, 19 Feb 2003
    23:56:07 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com> To see where a lot of Kolb owners and builders are located, go to this link: http://www.springeraviation.net/database.html John Williamson Arlington, TX N49KK, Kolb Kolbra, Jabiru 2200, 201 hours http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/


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    Time: 10:53:22 AM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Color- tune spark plugs?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Kolbers, Has anyone tried tuning their engines using the tranparent Color-tune spark plugs? If so, do you think they are worth the $50. Seems like a good way to make sure your mixture is just right. Thanks, Denny Rowe


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    Time: 11:47:40 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Rotax parts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Found an interesting web site that classifies Rotax/Bombardier engines for SeaDoo's and SkiDoo's with part numbers. Needed a base gasket for my 532, and discovered that a 1989-1991 SeaDoo Sp uses the same part # as the Rotax 582 except for the 3 number prefix. Lockwood shows a base gasket for a 582 as a 850-775, Extremepowersports show it as a 290-850-775. I asked the SeaDoo parts man for a 290-850-779, (Since 850-779 is what Lockwood shows for a 532) he said that # had been superceded by a new one, and handed me a gasket that fits perfectly. (And has Rotax written all over it) If there is anybody out there in the business that can throw more light on this, please do. For the moment, it looks handy when all you need is a seal or gasket. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=12&A=1 [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=12&A=1 [InternetShortcut] URL=http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=12&A=1 Modified=003167D715D9C20120


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    Time: 11:52:24 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Color- tune spark plugs?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Has anyone tried tuning their engines using the tranparent Color-tune spark plugs? > If so, do you think they are worth the $50. > Seems like a good way to make sure your mixture is just right. > Denny Rowe Denny/Gang: Not me. Nope. Another way to get you mixture just right is leave it alone. The engine is jetted correctly when it goes in the box at the factory. Prop to bump 6,500 rpm, give or take a hundred, at WOT, straight and level flight. This will give you the best climb/cruise combo. Also will be jetted correctly. EGTs will be where they belong. If you don't prop correctly, you will chase your own tail for many hours. My own thoughts and experiences with the Rotax and Cuyuna two strokes in my airplanes. john h


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    Time: 12:01:00 PM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel tanks
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net> Here's a link to some foot ball shape strut mounted units. http://www.ultralightnews.ca/fuelsystem/wingtanks.htm


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    Time: 12:02:12 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
    Subject: Rotax parts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> Richard, was there a difference in price? Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax parts --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Found an interesting web site that classifies Rotax/Bombardier engines for SeaDoo's and SkiDoo's with part numbers. Needed a base gasket for my 532, and discovered that a 1989-1991 SeaDoo Sp uses the same part # as the Rotax 582 except for the 3 number prefix. Lockwood shows a base gasket for a 582 as a 850-775, Extremepowersports show it as a 290-850-775. I asked the SeaDoo parts man for a 290-850-779, (Since 850-779 is what Lockwood shows for a 532) he said that # had been superceded by a new one, and handed me a gasket that fits perfectly. (And has Rotax written all over it) If there is anybody out there in the business that can throw more light on this, please do. For the moment, it looks handy when all you need is a seal or gasket. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=1 2&A=1 [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.as p?Type=12&A=1 [InternetShortcut] URL=http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Ty pe=12&A=1 Modified=003167D715D9C20120


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    Time: 01:15:28 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Olenik" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
    Subject: Rotax parts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom Olenik" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com> My only concern about that is that the next time you need free tech support, will the Sea Doo guy give it to you? I bet Lockwood would. Tom Olenik Olenik Aviation http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com 877-AIR-MOTORS DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax parts --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Found an interesting web site that classifies Rotax/Bombardier engines for SeaDoo's and SkiDoo's with part numbers. Needed a base gasket for my 532, and discovered that a 1989-1991 SeaDoo Sp uses the same part # as the Rotax 582 except for the 3 number prefix. Lockwood shows a base gasket for a 582 as a 850-775, Extremepowersports show it as a 290-850-775. I asked the SeaDoo parts man for a 290-850-779, (Since 850-779 is what Lockwood shows for a 532) he said that # had been superceded by a new one, and handed me a gasket that fits perfectly. (And has Rotax written all over it) If there is anybody out there in the business that can throw more light on this, please do. For the moment, it looks handy when all you need is a seal or gasket. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=12&A1 [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Ty pe=12&A=1 [InternetShortcut] URL=http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=1 2&A=1 Modified=003167D715D9C20120


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    Time: 01:36:37 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
    Subject: belly tank
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> Thanks John, That has convinced me to look somewhere else for extra fuel.... ( maybe it would be a good place for an AIR BAG ) the bouncing kolb.... Gotta Fly... Mike Time: 02:49:47 PM PST US From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: X-tra Tank --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > I was thinking of something more "BELLY HUGGING" and stream line.... I've seen some of those football sized tanks , but they looked like too much drag... Mike/Gang: May I make a point? The second thing to hit the ground in a hard landing is the belly of the Kolb, be it Firestar, Firefly, Mark III. What is attached to the belly of the Kolb will get wiped off. Ask me how I know that? The tank Jeremy was referring to was probably much larger than a football. I would estimate 15 gal or larger. Looked like big a$$ rocket hanging under the Kitfox. john h --- Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... do not archive


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    Time: 02:36:47 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: belly tank
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com> My brother has the "football" shaped translucent wing tanks on his Challenger I... hold about 5 gallons each... he says there was no difference in apparent drag, no difference in cruise speed, and no other effect except that he thought it made the plane a bit MORE stable. (!) They are plumbed so that he can refuel in-flight, meaning, he can pump from the football tanks into his main tank by the flick of a switch. He does have to be careful not to overfill, though, as he cannot see his main tank and doesn't have a gauge. He can see, though, the level in the football tanks since they are translucent, so he can guess how much to pump based on time-in-flight/consumption rates. -- Robert ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> > >Thanks John, > That has convinced me to look somewhere else for extra fuel.... > ( maybe it would be a good place for an AIR BAG ) the bouncing kolb.... > Gotta Fly... > Mike > > >Time: 02:49:47 PM PST US >From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: X-tra Tank > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > >> I was thinking of something more "BELLY HUGGING" and stream line.... >I've seen some of those football sized tanks , but they looked like too much >drag... > do not archive


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    Time: 02:59:00 PM PST US
    From: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
    Subject: woody props
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net> At 09:07 AM 2/20/03 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > >Hey Folks! >Was wondering, do any of you have a damaged or spare warp drive prop you >would like to loan or sell cheap for my test engine? speaking of props... I have been doing some research before I begin my attempt at carving my own prop. I have noticed some things different from our common rules of thumb. Using the biggest prop that will fit is not the most efficient way to select a prop. There is a specific formula to find a size " to start guessing from" . there is also a formula for pitch which takes into account max speed rpm and horse power. All ideas tested and used in prop design. Other things like airfoils and pitch progression make a big difference also. Looking at a warp drive it is a wonder it works according to past theories on prop design. Has anyone gone from a well designed wood prop to an ivo or warp? I would be interested in finding out if there was a big difference. I have owned 5 warps and could never believe a single shape multi purpose (pitch ) design could be as effective as a well designed wood prop. This is not to be a debate on the benefits of wood over composite but a debate over efficiencies on a well designed prop.


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    Time: 03:00:36 PM PST US
    From: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
    Subject: belly tank
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com> Can these tanks be used as the main tanks that feed the carbs? They seem like a better alternative to not being able to see the main in the back. I wouldn't need a fuel sender if I could see the tanks. They would also be much easier to fill, the ones in the back are a pain in the butt. James -----Original Message----- From: Robert Laird [mailto:rlaird@cavediver.com] Subject: Re: Kolb-List: belly tank --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com> My brother has the "football" shaped translucent wing tanks on his Challenger I... hold about 5 gallons each... he says there was no difference in apparent drag, no difference in cruise speed, and no other effect except that he thought it made the plane a bit MORE stable. (!) They are plumbed so that he can refuel in-flight, meaning, he can pump from the football tanks into his main tank by the flick of a switch. He does have to be careful not to overfill, though, as he cannot see his main tank and doesn't have a gauge. He can see, though, the level in the football tanks since they are translucent, so he can guess how much to pump based on time-in-flight/consumption rates. -- Robert ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> > >Thanks John, > That has convinced me to look somewhere else for extra fuel.... > ( maybe it would be a good place for an AIR BAG ) the bouncing kolb.... > Gotta Fly... > Mike > > >Time: 02:49:47 PM PST US >From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: X-tra Tank > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > >> I was thinking of something more "BELLY HUGGING" and stream line.... >I've seen some of those football sized tanks , but they looked like too much >drag... > do not archive


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    Time: 03:19:36 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax parts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > My only concern about that is that the next time you need free tech support, > will the Sea Doo guy give it to you? I bet Lockwood would. > > Tom Olenik > Olenik Aviation > http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com > 877-AIR-MOTORS Tom/Gang: Is it really "free tech support"? john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 03:22:46 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: belly tank
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > That has convinced me to look somewhere else for extra fuel.... > ( maybe it would be a good place for an AIR BAG ) the bouncing kolb.... > Gotta Fly... > Mike Mike/Gang: Used to carry my sleeping bag down there between and behind the gear legs. Was not room for it inside. After we reconfigured the Firestar, I was able to put everything inside the aircraft. When I wiped the gear off the Firestar in 1988, on Grand Island, NY, the airplane landed on my sleeping bag. Didn't hurt it though. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 03:49:59 PM PST US
    From: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@centurytel.net>
    Subject: woody props
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@CenturyTel.net> actually it has to be a debate on the materials as well. the reason a composite prop can be so thin and have such small chord ans thickness airfoils is it is extremely strong and very light. wood is a very good material but it isnt carbon fiber/epoxy. props are one of the hardest things to design well. untill just this year hartzel ( the biggest selling prop in the world after IVO I believe) only used one airfoil accross the whole length of the prop casue it was too hard for them to do otherwise. they are now making a big deal about thier variable airfoil prop technology!!! anyway you will be able to make a very good prop out of wood, but because it hase to have more material in it just to survive structurally you will not be able to make as good a prop as a well made composite prop. and yes the biggest you can make the prop the more efficent it will be, as long as the tips do not reach critical mach number, which means you need a really good reduction drive ratio. as airfoil thickness increases critical mach goes down so a wood prop cant spin as fast or have as large a diameter as a thinner composite prop. Topher


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    Time: 04:00:50 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Rotax parts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Some difference on some parts. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Do Not Archive At 03:01 PM 2/20/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> > >Richard, was there a difference in price? > >Peter > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax parts > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> > >Found an interesting web site that classifies Rotax/Bombardier engines >for >SeaDoo's and SkiDoo's with part numbers. Needed a base gasket for my >532, >and discovered that a 1989-1991 SeaDoo Sp uses the same part # as the >Rotax >582 except for the 3 number prefix. > >Lockwood shows a base gasket for a 582 as a 850-775, Extremepowersports >show it as a 290-850-775. >I asked the SeaDoo parts man for a 290-850-779, (Since 850-779 is what >Lockwood shows for a 532) he said that # had been superceded by a new >one, >and handed me a gasket that fits perfectly. (And has Rotax written all >over >it) > >If there is anybody out there in the business that can throw more light >on >this, please do. For the moment, it looks handy when all you need is a >seal >or gasket. > >Richard Pike >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > >http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=1 >2&A=1 >[DEFAULT] >BASEURL=http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.as >p?Type=12&A=1 > >[InternetShortcut] >URL=http://216.37.204.206/xtremepowersports/Seadoo_OEM/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Ty >pe=12&A=1 >Modified=003167D715D9C20120 > >


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    Time: 04:09:06 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Rotax parts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Yes, you are right. And likewise you too have helped me and others also, and you deserve our appreciation. And if I wasn't determined to finish assembling that engine tomorrow (because I have a buyer waiting) I would order the parts from you and pay the shipping instead of paying Tennessee's exorbitant sales tax. But I need a mag end crank seal and a water pump gasket tomorrow morning, and I will surely slink off to the SeaDoo dealer and purchase them. Preferably in an unmarked, plain brown paper bag, lest I reveal my shame and treachery... Richard Pike The "Undeserving of free tech support" Old Poop Do Not Archive At 04:20 PM 2/20/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom Olenik" ><olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com> > >My only concern about that is that the next time you need free tech support, >will the Sea Doo guy give it to you? I bet Lockwood would. > >Tom Olenik >Olenik Aviation >http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com >877-AIR-MOTORS > >DO NOT ARCHIVE Help Stop Spam! Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life. Thanks! And have a blessed day. rp


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    Time: 04:31:58 PM PST US
    From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: belly tank
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> At 04:59 PM 2/20/2003, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" ><James_Alderson@jdedwards.com> > >Can these tanks be used as the main tanks that feed the carbs? They seem >like a better alternative to not being able to see the main in the back. I >wouldn't need a fuel sender if I could see the tanks. They would also be >much easier to fill, the ones in the back are a pain in the butt. I suppose you could, but I wouldn't. For my main tank (which I can't see), which will not take a fuel gauge of any type (odd shaped and very shallow), I put in a fuel flow meter. I top off the tank, set the meter to the qty of fuel, then I always know -- within a 1/10th gallon -- how much fuel I have, not to mention my rate of consumption. It also helped me quickly diagnose a restriction I had in an aux. fuel pump. -- R P.S. You can get a fuel flow meter from BoatersWorld.com. do not archive


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    Time: 05:41:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: woody props
    From: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com> 2/20/03 15:57woody > --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net> > > At 09:07 AM 2/20/03 -0600, you wrote: >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> >> >> Hey Folks! >> Was wondering, do any of you have a damaged or spare warp drive prop you >> would like to loan or sell cheap for my test engine? > > > speaking of props... I have been doing some research before I begin my > attempt at carving my own prop. I have noticed some things different from > our common rules of thumb. Using the biggest prop that will fit is not the > most efficient way to select a prop. There is a specific formula to find a > size " to start guessing from" . there is also a formula for pitch which > takes into account max speed rpm and horse power. All ideas tested and used > in prop design. Other things like airfoils and pitch progression make a big > difference also. Looking at a warp drive it is a wonder it works according > to past theories on prop design. Has anyone gone from a well designed wood > prop to an ivo or warp? I would be interested in finding out if there was a > big difference. I have owned 5 warps and could never believe a single shape > multi purpose (pitch ) design could be as effective as a well designed wood > prop. This is not to be a debate on the benefits of wood over composite but > a debate over efficiencies on a well designed prop. > >======================================= Well that's an intersting topic. I don't think I have the patience or time to build my own prop. But I wonder if a finit element analysis would be one of the better ways to come up with a near ideal airfoil for a prop. If you key in the value for length on the prop (how much clearence you want etc) its rotational speed at 90% of max rpm, and run the analysis every inch or so of the airtfoil, root slow--tip fast, I would guess you could come up with some excellent airfoil shapes. The only pronlem with that is where to go and get the program. I think I seen it advertized somewhere but can't remember where. I am sure that besides me there are others here who may be very interested in that.


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    Time: 05:43:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax parts
    From: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com> 2/20/03 16:19John Hauck > Is it really "free tech support"? > > john h =================== I think that was his point! in other words its an *available* tech support that you won't get from the Skoobie-do bob. :-)


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    Time: 06:22:47 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
    Subject: Brake Lines
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> Gentlemen: I need to change my brake lines. Checked the Aircraft Spruce catalog but I'm not sure what material to get. Their "Nylo-Seal" Tubing (1/4" OD, 0.50 Burst Wall) and "Poly-Flo" tubing (1/4" OD, 0.04 Burst Wall) sound right, but I would like to be sure. The tubing I'm replacing (I have Matco brakes) measures 1/4" OD. The specs on the Nylo-Seal state that it is suitable for hydraulic lines "except" in the 1/4" and 3/8" sizes"(?!), so... is the Poly-Flo the one to get? Or something else all together? Thanks in advance, Peter


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    Time: 06:54:29 PM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Brake Lines
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Peter and all... like bigLar, I didn't like plastic lines but, 1/4" polyflo should be good for at least 500 psi (intermittant.) . Nylon should be equal or better but it has a tendency to be more slippery making fitting integrity a little less. --That's the weakest link, polyflow fittings rely on compression friction to hold the tubing in. There is no actual mechanical lock The fluid exerts very little separation force but weeds, wind, etc. can do it. Do not overtighten them because with time you will have to go back occasionally to adjust. -BB Peter Volum wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> > >Gentlemen: > >I need to change my brake lines. > >Checked the Aircraft Spruce catalog but I'm not sure what material to >get. Their "Nylo-Seal" Tubing (1/4" OD, 0.50 Burst Wall) and "Poly-Flo" >tubing (1/4" OD, 0.04 Burst Wall) sound right, but I would like to be >sure. > >The tubing I'm replacing (I have Matco brakes) measures 1/4" OD. The >specs on the Nylo-Seal state that it is suitable for hydraulic lines >"except" in the 1/4" and 3/8" sizes"(?!), so... is the Poly-Flo the one >to get? Or something else all together? > >Thanks in advance, > >Peter > > > >


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    Time: 07:09:40 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Brake Lines
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Peter and all... like bigLar, I didn't like plastic lines but, 1/4" > polyflo should > be good for at least 500 psi (intermittant.) . Nylon should be equal or > better > but it has a tendency to be more slippery making fitting integrity a little > less. --That's the weakest link, polyflow fittings rely on compression > friction to hold the tubing in. There is no actual mechanical lock > The fluid exerts very little separation force but weeds, wind, etc. can > do it. > Do not overtighten them because with time you will have to go back > occasionally to adjust. -BB BB/Peter/Gang: I have no problem with plastic brake lines. Up until 1 July 2000, my brake lines had been on my MK III for 9 years. When I wiped out the landing gear at Muncho Lake, BC, the lines were snatched into. Did not pull loose at the caliper fitting. I think I had to replace the lines during the rebuild for the 2001 flight because the old ones came up a little short. Plastic is easier to work with. No danger of vibration and stress cracking. They can also be accidentally crimped, regain their shape and keep on performing. Aluminum and steel won't do that. To each his own. john h


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    Time: 07:18:01 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Brake Lines
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > gear at Muncho Lake, BC, the lines were snatched > into. Did not pull loose at the caliper fitting. > john h Folks: Funny how words come out of my fingers and on to the keyboard when I type in a hurry. The above should have read "snatched in two", but came out as "snatched into". Hope that did not confuse anyone to much. Xin Loi 10,000 times, john h


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    Time: 07:25:55 PM PST US
    From: "DAVID STROBERG" <dgstro@greenvillenc.com>
    Subject: Re: Brake Lines
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "DAVID STROBERG" <dgstro@greenvillenc.com> Pete, I've been using 18 wheeler 1/4 " air brake tubing with no detoration with the 5606 fluid. They have some very nice brass compression fittings that fit just right on the Matcos. Most any good auto parts place will have em. Price is very reasonable. (hanging here till the 12th of March.) !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Brake Lines > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> > > Gentlemen: > > I need to change my brake lines. > > Checked the Aircraft Spruce catalog but I'm not sure what material to > get. Their "Nylo-Seal" Tubing (1/4" OD, 0.50 Burst Wall) and "Poly-Flo" > tubing (1/4" OD, 0.04 Burst Wall) sound right, but I would like to be > sure. > > The tubing I'm replacing (I have Matco brakes) measures 1/4" OD. The > specs on the Nylo-Seal state that it is suitable for hydraulic lines > "except" in the 1/4" and 3/8" sizes"(?!), so... is the Poly-Flo the one > to get? Or something else all together? > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter > >




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