---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/22/03: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:56 AM - Re: Sun -N-Fun and camping (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)) 2. 09:26 AM - thrust line (boyd young) 3. 01:55 PM - Re: Directions to "overnite" camping at Sun-N-Fun (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)) 4. 08:04 PM - Camera (Larry Bourne) 5. 09:11 PM - Re: Rotax parts (jerb) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:17 AM PST US From: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun -N-Fun and camping message of Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:56:14 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) Tim in Virginia and other overnighters: Those of you wanting to drive and camp but not for the week, SNF has an overnight parking area that I've used for years. I drive in and set up a tent or sleep in the van......I think the fee is $12.00/nite....for as little as one night or all week. It's about 1 1/2 miles from the main campground/bathhouse area and campground host building. I take my bike along for transportation to and from....or, a shuttle runs continually from 7:30 am until 8:00pm. No reservations necessary......first come, first served. I usually am there on Sunday Morning through mid-week and have yet to see it completely full. Porta johns are set up and a water buffalo for potable water. No other facilities. I have directions from I-4 and as soon as I can locate them, will post to the list for anyone interested. You may find the location on the SNF website also. I may spend all week this year but intend to use the same area again. Easy access back to Lakeland and restaurants for those of us with no RV. I DO think they pump your holding tanks on request like they do at the main campground, but can't swear to it..... One feature worth mentioning....they have a guard and gate that's locked at 8:00pm each evening, preventing you from driving back to the airport grounds. They've always had the guard but locking the gate was due to 9-11. (NO thru traffic anytime without a campground pass or wrist bracelet) There IS a path around the gate for walkers or bikes if you pass muster with the guard. Mike in WV do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:04 AM PST US From: "boyd young" Subject: Kolb-List: thrust line --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" Group, Would the optimum thrust line be parallel with the bottom of the wing? Thanks! Kirk i think that for the best cruse the prop arc should be perpendicular to the air flow. suposing that the top and bottom of the wing deflect the air down at some angle which will be more pronounced at the wing than it will be at the top and bottom of the prop arc. i believe that there must be some compromise in the setting of the angle..... with the prop on the front in clean air it should be a bit easier to decide.... but then on the ga aircraft many of the manufactures will angle the engine down in the front so that there is less trim adjustments necessary between wot and idle. when you figure out the perfect angle let us all know. boyd ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:50 PM PST US From: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Directions to "overnite" camping at Sun-N-Fun message of Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:56:14 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) Directions to the overnite camping area at Sun-N-Fun in Lakeland: From I-4, take exit 15-A (rt. 570 toll road) Go south on 570 to exit 3. Once through the toll booth, turn right onto 572 and proceed to the traffic light. At the light, turn right and watch for the "overnight camping" sign. The campground will be on your left and can be seen from the road and (guessing) approximatey 3/4 mile from the traffic light. Price WAS $12.00/nite....no reservation necessary, no facilities other than the porta johns and a water buffalo for drinking. Stay one night or...? only paying for time spent. Admission bracelets for the grounds and flightlne passes are sold here also. Shuttle van runs to and from the festivities from 7:30am until 8:00pm subject to demand. The shuttle turns around at the camground host building/bathouse area. From there, you can catch a tram to Paradise City or anywhere. Personally, I take my bike and come and go at will. Be prepared for "terrorist" inspections and subsequent delays at ticket booths and guardhouses. If you can visualize where the aircraft camping is on the end of the runway, the campgound is just out of sight to the north from there, or about 1 1/2 miles from showside. I'll be there from the first day through....???? and driving a white '95 Chevy 3/4 ton Sportvan with WV tags....with either a small tent or roughing it in the van. Cooler full of Miller's, pepperoni, saltines, maybe the grill and a steak or two. DON'T miss the corn roast!! It's GREAT!!. Hillbilly Mike ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:50 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Kolb-List: Camera --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Just finished putting together a web page - partly to see if I remembered how - on the camera set-up I talked about last week. Hugh, I gotta confess - I used your camera to take these pics. All the pieces went together today for the 1st time, and the testing went well. (Last week, I used a small TV set for a monitor) Now, gotta polish it up, and make it spiffy. Take a look at http://webpictures.homestead.com/RemoteCamera.html Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:25 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax parts --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb How do you know your getting the "aviation grade" part from the aviation company and not the sled grade sold as and at the aviation prices? jerb At 01:32 PM 2/21/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" > >This could be worth pursuing Richard... > >The guy who sells starters for Rotax Engines (GPL) also sells Rotax >engines for Hovercrafts (including the 912, although admittedly not the >912UL). > >If the parts for non-UL 912's really are the same ones as those for >912UL's, and if the only difference is $$$, then for non-critical >components one may well be able to save a considerable amount of dough. > >I would still feel better about buying critical components from a >distributor of the aviation series of engines just in case there is a >difference though. > >Peter > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike >Found a current online parts price list for Rotax U/L engines to >compare with Rotax Bombardier parts bought at the local SeaDoo dealer: > >The base gasket between the cylinders and crankcase cost $7.62. >U/L cost is $12.54 >The water pump gasket cost $3.08, U/L cost is $3.79. >SeaDoo Mag end oil seal cost $9.32, U/L cost is $18.63 (100%) > >These parts all had the same Rotax part #, or had been changed to use a >new common number. > >Now if only Bombardier will start using the 912 & 914 in a jet boat, >all >us aviators might get to see the cost of flying come down to a >reasonable >level. > >Richard Pike >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > >