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1. 04:32 AM - Thrust line (Kirk Smith)
2. 03:18 PM - Re: IVOPROP Pitch (Bill Vincent)
3. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: IVOPROP Pitch (Beauford Tuton)
4. 03:49 PM - Re: Brake Lines (John Hauck)
5. 04:05 PM - Re: nose heavy (John Hauck)
6. 04:20 PM - digest (Clay Stuart)
7. 04:25 PM - Setting / pitching your prop (John J. Peters)
8. 04:41 PM - Re: digest (Don Gherardini)
9. 04:42 PM - Re: digest (Jack Carillon)
10. 04:44 PM - Kolb New Pilot Question (Alderson, James)
11. 04:45 PM - Re: digest (John Hauck)
12. 05:19 PM - Re: Rotax parts (Tom Olenik)
13. 05:25 PM - Re: Kolb New Pilot Question (SGreenpg@aol.com)
14. 05:36 PM - Re: Rotax parts (Tom Olenik)
15. 05:56 PM - Re: digest (Matt Dralle)
16. 06:18 PM - Re: Kolb New Pilot Question (John Williamson)
17. 06:24 PM - Re:MEK (Timandjan@aol.com)
18. 06:48 PM - Re: Kolb New Pilot Question (Alderson, James)
19. 07:27 PM - Re: Re:MEK (JACKIE AND DALE SELLERS)
20. 07:28 PM - Re: digest (JACKIE AND DALE SELLERS)
21. 07:30 PM - Re: Rotax parts (JACKIE AND DALE SELLERS)
22. 07:46 PM - Re: Rotax parts (Tom Olenik)
23. 07:58 PM - Re: Kolb New Pilot Question (woody)
24. 08:36 PM - Booster Bottle & Bing - Update #2 (Jack & Louise Hart)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Just wanted to thank everybody for the info on thrust lines. Got a better grasp
of it now. Anybody want this snow??? No charge...... Snuffy
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| Subject: | Re: IVOPROP Pitch |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi Allen
On my Ivo Prop I turn the bolt counterclockwise to ADD pitch.
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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ALLENB007@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ALLENB007@aol.com
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> Kolbers,
>
> Can you tell me which way to turn the bolt on a Kolb pusher standing behind
> the plane and facing the prop. Is it clockwise or counterclockwise to ADD
> pitch?
>
> Thanks in advance for your reply/replies,
> Allen
>
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| Subject: | Re: IVOPROP Pitch |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Howdy, Bill....
Mine too.... Read 'er one more time....
Regards,
Beauford
do not archive...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: IVOPROP Pitch
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
>
> Hi Allen
>
> On my Ivo Prop I turn the bolt counterclockwise to ADD pitch.
>
> Bill Vincent
> Firestar II
> Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan
>
> Do Not Archive
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> ALLENB007@aol.com wrote:
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> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ALLENB007@aol.com
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> > Kolbers,
> >
> > Can you tell me which way to turn the bolt on a Kolb pusher standing
behind
> > the plane and facing the prop. Is it clockwise or counterclockwise to
ADD
> > pitch?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your reply/replies,
> > Allen
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
the fluid used resembles automatic transmission
fluid. In
> fact that works very well.
> Jerry
Jerry/Kolbers:
IIRC, MATCO and the other folks that made disc
brakes, way back in the 80's :-) recommended ATF,
the red stuff. I have always used it and it is in
my MATCO brakes on my MK III now.
In fact, I used Wal*Mart ATF last time.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> i have had some conversations with TNK about how my mk III feels nose
> heavy when i have a passenger on board. and that i feel that i dont have
> enough control authority with the elevator at low speeds. especially with
> the engine at idle.
> john i found this in the archives could you explain further..
> boyd
Boyd/Kolbers:
That particular flight was in an unfamiliar
airplane and a very large passenger, that was not
exactly 100% honest about his weight. Whenever I
fly someone who is large, I ask them their weight
in order to have some idea how the airplane is
going to react. In this case, rather than take a
chance on running out of elevator, which I doubt
seriously I would, I maintained 75 mph until back
on the ground.
Why take a chance of hurting both of us?
My MK III was rigged so that the highest position
of the horizontal stabilizer is an inch or so
lower than specs call for. It is 3 poisiton
adjustable. I normally fly it in the middle
position or about 1.5 to 2.0 inches lower than
standard.
I do not know what the maximum pilot passenger
weight would be. To be safe, I back off when
requested to fly a really large passenger.
On one occassion I had to abort a takeoff in the
Mark III, about midfield, Oshkosh UL airstrip,
taking off to the north, uphill. He was a
lopper. His sides lopped over the aileron torque
tube on my side of the airplane. He also lied to
me about his weight. Then there was another guy
that damned got us killed because I made a poor
decision and decided to fly him at Oskosh. I'll
save that one for private, screened audiences.
:-)
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
Was there a digest for 2-22-03? I didn't get any messages but my email was down
for several hours. If there was one, could someone kindly forward it to me.
Is there normally a local source for MEK? Would an industrial cleaning supply
house carry it? I was trying to save hazardous shipping charges.
Thanks,
Clay Stuart
building Mark IIIXtra
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| Subject: | Setting / pitching your prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John J. Peters" <TopGunPI@att.net>
Sears sells a square or pitch gage for framing that has a compass with
an arrow that hangs like a pendgelum giving you an accurate reading when rotated
out of square or plumb .
With your two blade prop horizontal and placing this gage perpendicular to the
blade ( vertical )
at the tip of each blade
it will give you the pitch of that blade , and then doing the same on the opposite
blade without rotating the prop , you'll get a totally different reading ,
but by adding these readings together
and dividing by two you'll have the exact pitch of the prop in degress , which
for kolbs is approx
10 - 12 degrees . By using this method it doesn't matter what the attitude of the
plane is , as long as the wheels are somewhere near level , to each other .
NOTE : If you must have the same reading on each blade tip , the axis or shaft
from your reduction drive has to be dead level , which is very difficult to
check .
I use this method to verify pitch , when setting up for floats , pitch is critical
, as I have an
in - flight adjustable prop , and sometime lose trac of the setting .
I hope this helps in some way . It sounds a whole lot more complicated than
it is , but with
a little practice , can be very useful if you document your settings .
TopGunPI@att.net
FS II on floats
503 DC DI
S.E. Ma.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Well Clay, I dont know where you are...but the ACE hardware carries MEK
thinner here in the ACE brand...very economical...and usually any hardware
store that has much paint supplies will have MEK..
if you are in the city...Menards..Lowes..Home depot..all have it
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack Carillon <pcarillonsr@neo.rr.com>
Clay, Most large paint stores carry MEK. If you have a Sherwin Willams
in your area I know they carry it. You might try an automotive paint
supplier also.
Jack Carillon
Firestar II 503
Akron Oh.
Clay Stuart wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
>
> Was there a digest for 2-22-03? I didn't get any messages but my email was down
for several hours. If there was one, could someone kindly forward it to me.
>
> Is there normally a local source for MEK? Would an industrial cleaning supply
house carry it? I was trying to save hazardous shipping charges.
>
> Thanks,
> Clay Stuart
> building Mark IIIXtra
>
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| Subject: | Kolb New Pilot Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
Hello Kolbers,
I was wondering if I can get some of you pilots to answer a question for me.
I have found some instructors that instruct in Mark III's, the problem is
that they are very far away from me. One is a 5 hour drive away, another is
in West Palm Beach (which is tempting, but a flight/car rental/hotel
expense) and the other is about 4 hours away but is selling his Kolb
possibly before I get to him.
So, my question is, do I need training specifically in a Kolb?
How many of you didn't fly a Kolb, or a taildragger, before you flew your
Kolb?
I am a low time pilot (20 hrs GA, 15 hours Ultralight Trike) and the guys at
my airport are saying I should just do some training hours (3-4) in the
flightstar that they have for training there, along with letting the BFI fly
the Firestar II so he can make sure that he understands what the differences
will be. They say with my experience already, and some taxi tests (NO CROW
HOPS!!!!) that I should be more than prepared to fly the Kolb. I am just a
little nervous about flying it without any taildragger experience... am I
crazy?
I await your experience.....
PS - Because of the winds today, I spent a few hours hugging, kissing, and
sitting in the Firestar making plane noises....(yes, and machine gun
noises).
James Alderson
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Is there normally a local source for MEK? Would an industrial cleaning supply
house carry it? I was trying to save hazardous shipping charges.
>
> Thanks,
> Clay Stuart
Clay/Gang:
Try Lowes, Home HQ, etc. I get mine at Lowes by
the gal.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom Olenik" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
Denny,
Customers who buy from me or have me overhaul engines get unlimited FREE
tech support via a toll free number or e-mail. So there isn't even a phone
bill.
I actually enjoy helping people through their problems, but I do get a
little frustrated when I am spending an hour on the phone with someone's
local motorcycle mechanic, reading the Rotax manual to him about how to fit
the pistons that they bought from CPS. That happens more than you might
think.
Companies like LEAF and Lockwood probably spend at least 40 + or - man hours
per week answering tech questions with $15/hour + employees. No, it isn't
free, and that cost is suppose to be covered in the money they make on
engines and parts. If they are giving that support to someone who didn't
buy there, then their other customers are footing the bill.
BTW, I am holding in my hand a new parts price list for Rotax pars. Looks
like about a 9% or 10% increases. It's amazing that I can buy three pistons
for a 2SI 430FE-35 for the price of one 447 pistons assembly including all
the same parts. I don't like Rotax prices any more than anyone else. It
just hurts the repairman because people are less likely to want to do the
job right and it increases our liability and even lowers our margin because
we end up cutting labor rates to try to encourage people to do it right.
Tom Olenik
Olenik Aviation
http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
877-AIR-MOTORS
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
rowedl@highstream.net
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax parts
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax parts
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> > My only concern about that is that the next time you need free tech
support,
> > will the Sea Doo guy give it to you? I bet Lockwood would.
> >
> > Tom Olenik
> > Olenik Aviation
> > http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
> > 877-AIR-MOTORS
>
> Tom/Gang:
>
> Is it really "free tech support"?
>
> john h
>
Lets see, I dial the phone, Tom Olinik, Roger Zerkle, or maybe Phil Lockwood
answer their phone, I ask a question, they give me good answers and we have
an intellegent conversation, I hang up the phone satisfied with my answer
and knowing that I have learned somthing valuable for having called. Other
than Linda hitting the roof when the long distance bill arrives, :-O the
tech support was free. Payed in full when I purchase a product from a
person who supports this tiny market.
Denny Rowe
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb New Pilot Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com
In a message dated 2/23/03 7:45:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
James_Alderson@jdedwards.com writes:
> They say with my experience already, and some taxi tests (NO CROW
> HOPS!!!!) that I should be more than prepared to fly the Kolb. I am just a
> little nervous about flying it without any taildragger experience... am I
>
James,
Listen to your nerves. I don't know your skill level or what you have the 20
hours in, but if you have never flown a tailwheel plane and only have 3 axis
time in a GA plane, I think your being nervous is a good thing. In a Kolb
during taxi testing you need to be familiar with raising the tail (enough to
keep it on the ground above flying speed) while hi speed taxing. It is
amazing how fast a Kolb will leave the ground if you don't have the tail high
enough. I would suggest at least getting some tailwheel training and then
some transition time in a Kolb if possible. If you can, prop the tail of you
plane up until the bottom of the wing is slightly lower at the leading edge
than the trailing edge. This about the pitch attitude that you will need to
taxi at if you get up any speed. With the price of nose cones and fabric
covering what they are, training is a bargain.
Hope this helps
Steven Green
Mark III N58SG
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom Olenik" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
Actually, I am holding a new price list in my hand that just arrived. Now I
am going to pay someone to work a full week updating all those 4000+
prices.....again.
582 base gasket, 850 775 $15.14.
Does anyone know a gasket maker? I don't like these prices any better than
anyone else. Nowhere in business can you raise your price and increase your
bottom line........unless you have a monopoly.
Tom Olenik
Olenik Aviation
http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
877-247-6686
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax parts
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
At 03:01 PM 2/20/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
>
>Richard, was there a difference in price?
>
>Peter
Found a current online parts price list for Rotax U/L engines to
compare with Rotax Bombardier parts bought at the local SeaDoo dealer:
The base gasket between the cylinders and crankcase cost $7.62.
U/L cost is $12.54
The water pump gasket cost $3.08, U/L cost is $3.79.
SeaDoo Mag end oil seal cost $9.32, U/L cost is $18.63 (100%)
These parts all had the same Rotax part #, or had been changed to use a
new common number.
Now if only Bombardier will start using the 912 & 914 in a jet boat, all
us aviators might get to see the cost of flying come down to a reasonable
level.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
At 04:19 PM 2/23/2003 Sunday, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
>
>Was there a digest for 2-22-03? I didn't get any messages but my email
>was down for several hours. If there was one, could someone kindly
>forward it to me.
>
>Is there normally a local source for MEK? Would an industrial cleaning
>supply house carry it? I was trying to save hazardous shipping charges.
>
>Thanks,
>Clay Stuart
>building Mark IIIXtra
Clay,
Click on the link below labeled "browse digests". This will take you to a
web page with all of the Kolb-List digests, newest at the top. Click on
the one labeled "2003-02-22".
Matt Dralle
List Admin
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb New Pilot Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
James, and other Kolbers,
Since you have a FireStar II, you have to provide more information to get
the correct answer.
Is the FireStar registered with the FAA (have an 'N' number on the tail)?
Does it have more than one seat?
Is the empty weight more than 254 pounds?
Is the fuel capacity more than 5 gallons?
If you answered NO to all the question, find a BFI or AFI and get some tail
wheel training. Does not have to be a Kolb but should be a pusher
configuration.
If you answered YES to ANY of the questions, find a CFI and get some tail
wheel training and endorsement in your logbook to allow you to fly your
airplane.
If you are around the Texas area, I would be glad to give you some time in
my Kolbra.
John Williamson CFI, CFII, ASEL, AMEL
Arlington, TX
N49KK, Kolb Kolbra, Jabiru 2200, 201 hours
http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
Lowes and Home Depot carry MEK. I think I might have even bought some at
Walmart. A gallon should be about the same price as a gallon of Lacquer
thinner.
Any auto paint supply should also have it.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Kolb New Pilot Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
John,
Thanks for the offer, I am not near Texas, but it has been too long since I
have been there. It appears that the Kolbra would be a closer cousin to the
firestar than a Mark III anyway with its tandem config.
As far as your questions to me go, no, to all of them.
No N Number, one seat, close to 400 lbs, and 10 gallons. However....
registered as a trainer with ASC and, before anyone asks, yes, the exemption
that ASC has covers single place heavy trainers and I checked that with the
FAA (check the ASC website under BFI/Solo Training). So, that means that my
BFI can endorse me to solo training towards my ultralight license then my
BFI, and I can do all that training in my Kolb Firestar II.
Either way, it seems like training in a tailwheel would be a good idea... so
its off to train I go, I just won't listen to the BFI's at the field that
think I am crazy for not training on the flightstar and then just going for
it...
James
-----Original Message-----
From: John Williamson [mailto:kolbrapilot@attbi.com]
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb New Pilot Question
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
James, and other Kolbers,
Since you have a FireStar II, you have to provide more information to get
the correct answer.
Is the FireStar registered with the FAA (have an 'N' number on the tail)?
Does it have more than one seat?
Is the empty weight more than 254 pounds?
Is the fuel capacity more than 5 gallons?
If you answered NO to all the question, find a BFI or AFI and get some tail
wheel training. Does not have to be a Kolb but should be a pusher
configuration.
If you answered YES to ANY of the questions, find a CFI and get some tail
wheel training and endorsement in your logbook to allow you to fly your
airplane.
If you are around the Texas area, I would be glad to give you some time in
my Kolbra.
John Williamson CFI, CFII, ASEL, AMEL
Arlington, TX
N49KK, Kolb Kolbra, Jabiru 2200, 201 hours
http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JACKIE AND DALE SELLERS" <jsel@vol.com>
I've found that most building supply/paint stores carry MEK.
Dale
sellers
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From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re:MEK
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
>
> Lowes and Home Depot carry MEK. I think I might have even bought some at
> Walmart. A gallon should be about the same price as a gallon of Lacquer
> thinner.
>
> Any auto paint supply should also have it.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JACKIE AND DALE SELLERS" <jsel@vol.com>
Try your local paint store.
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From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: digest
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
> At 04:19 PM 2/23/2003 Sunday, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
> >
> >Was there a digest for 2-22-03? I didn't get any messages but my email
> >was down for several hours. If there was one, could someone kindly
> >forward it to me.
> >
> >Is there normally a local source for MEK? Would an industrial cleaning
> >supply house carry it? I was trying to save hazardous shipping charges.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Clay Stuart
> >building Mark IIIXtra
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JACKIE AND DALE SELLERS" <jsel@vol.com>
Try Felpro.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Olenik" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax parts
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom Olenik"
<olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
>
> Actually, I am holding a new price list in my hand that just arrived. Now
I
> am going to pay someone to work a full week updating all those 4000+
> prices.....again.
>
>
> 582 base gasket, 850 775 $15.14.
>
> Does anyone know a gasket maker? I don't like these prices any better
than
> anyone else. Nowhere in business can you raise your price and increase
your
> bottom line........unless you have a monopoly.
>
> Tom Olenik
> Olenik Aviation
> http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
> 877-247-6686
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax parts
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> At 03:01 PM 2/20/03 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
> >
> >Richard, was there a difference in price?
> >
> >Peter
> Found a current online parts price list for Rotax U/L engines to
> compare with Rotax Bombardier parts bought at the local SeaDoo dealer:
>
> The base gasket between the cylinders and crankcase cost $7.62.
> U/L cost is $12.54
> The water pump gasket cost $3.08, U/L cost is $3.79.
> SeaDoo Mag end oil seal cost $9.32, U/L cost is $18.63 (100%)
>
> These parts all had the same Rotax part #, or had been changed to use a
> new common number.
>
> Now if only Bombardier will start using the 912 & 914 in a jet boat, all
> us aviators might get to see the cost of flying come down to a reasonable
> level.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom Olenik" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
You don't. In fact, I know for a fact that there was a company advertising
"Genuine Rotax Pistons" in a magazine, but picturing Weisco pistons in their
web page with the same heading.
I overhaul a lot of engines the second time after someone else had it and
see aftermarket parts in them all the time. Maybe someone thought they were
getting the same parts from the snomo dealer, and in some cases they will be
the same parts, but a snomo dealer has much less of a problem substituting
parts than a UL dealer although some UL dealers DO make substitutions
without the customer knowing. If they let the customer know what they are
getting, I don't have much of a problem with it ethically, but to substitute
something that is different without the customer knowing DOES happen. I saw
some engines with broken rings that were purchased from a then very popular
discount parts supplier. The rings were obviously not ELKO (the company
that makes pistons and rings for Rotax).
Really the only thing you have to go back on is the reputation of your
source. If the gaskets have something other than the
Rotax part number, that is a real tip off, but they can obviously get around
that.
Also, there are SOME parts that Rotax does not make that can be purchased
outside of Rotax by vendors that are exactly the same parts are close
enough..... A reputable source will tell you when it is such a part. For
example:
Rotax part number 866 705 is a spark plug connector cap that now retails for
over $15 from Rotax. The cap is made by NGK and the exact same NGK part
number is available outside Rotax for much less. I carry it for $3.95. The
ONLY difference is the color. The OEM cap is maroon, and the aftermarket is
black. I have dissected these very closely. They are identical. The only
difference is the color. They have the same NGK part number on them even
(LB05EZ). There are a few other examples as well, but if some people get
their way with the light sport aircraft consensus standards, you will not be
able to use that $3.95 cap and will be forced to buy the $15.88 cap which
exactly the same. Guess what? I make about the same money on the $3.95
cap. So I would rather sell that one because we are then both winning, and
I don't feel so guilty about it.
Of course if tracability of parts is required for light sport airplanes,
then this will not be an issue other than the inflated costs.
Tom Olenik
Olenik Aviation
http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
877-247-6686
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jerb
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax parts
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
How do you know your getting the "aviation grade" part from the aviation
company and not the sled grade sold as and at the aviation prices?
jerb
At 01:32 PM 2/21/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
>
>This could be worth pursuing Richard...
>
>The guy who sells starters for Rotax Engines (GPL) also sells Rotax
>engines for Hovercrafts (including the 912, although admittedly not the
>912UL).
>
>If the parts for non-UL 912's really are the same ones as those for
>912UL's, and if the only difference is $$$, then for non-critical
>components one may well be able to save a considerable amount of dough.
>
>I would still feel better about buying critical components from a
>distributor of the aviation series of engines just in case there is a
>difference though.
>
>Peter
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>Found a current online parts price list for Rotax U/L engines to
>compare with Rotax Bombardier parts bought at the local SeaDoo dealer:
>
>The base gasket between the cylinders and crankcase cost $7.62.
>U/L cost is $12.54
>The water pump gasket cost $3.08, U/L cost is $3.79.
>SeaDoo Mag end oil seal cost $9.32, U/L cost is $18.63 (100%)
>
>These parts all had the same Rotax part #, or had been changed to use a
>new common number.
>
>Now if only Bombardier will start using the 912 & 914 in a jet boat,
>all
>us aviators might get to see the cost of flying come down to a
>reasonable
>level.
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb New Pilot Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
>
>
>my airport are saying I should just do some training hours (3-4) in the
>flightstar that they have for training there, along with letting the BFI fly
>the Firestar II so he can make sure that he understands what the differences
>will be. They say with my experience already, and some taxi tests (NO CROW
>HOPS!!!!) that I should be more than prepared to fly the Kolb. I am just a
>little nervous about flying it without any taildragger experience... am I
>crazy?
Not crazy. When I built my Kolb Flyer I had no one to teach me and all
I had flown before was a cessna to get my private pilot rating. I spent a
whole day on the ground taxiing the little bird untill I could make it do
anything I wanted. This plane did not even have a tail wheel. First flight
was great and exciting. No real problem getting it down, just flew it down
like I had been taught. Being a tail dragger is some what of a non issue.
Before two seat Ultralights I taught a guy with no experience to fly in an
ultra star. A friend had a firestar and asked me to test it for him. As it
was his aircraft I suggested he taxi it up and down the strip once so he
could have first honours. He gave it the gas and was airbourne before he
knew what happened. He remembered my words of wisdom and made 3 approaches
before he felt comfortable. His first words to me when he got out was that
I was right. Being a tail dragger is a non issue. Of course this is just my
opinion and I usually test the waters by jumping in with both feet. Let
your conscience be your guide but from my experience it is not a difficult
thing to do if you have limited experience
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| Subject: | Booster Bottle & Bing - Update #2 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
There was a little window of opportunity to test the latest modifications to the
throttle slide valve. I had closed the idle air cut out and drilled drain holes
for the previously undrained portion of the slide valve. I installed the
slide valve, pulled the FireFly out of the hangar and tied it to my pickup.
It took too many turns to start, but when it did, it still idled at 2,300 rpm
minimum. The hard start and the high idle indicates that my greatest fear was
realized. With the throttle valve closed, with the engine idling with high vacuum
in the intake manifold and inside the throttle valve slide, the air pressure
on the slide bottom the throttle slide is floating the valve off the stop.
After warming up the engine, I ran it on up to 4,000 rpm and then closed the
throttle. The rpm did follow the throttle well down to about 3,000 and then
it drifted on down to 2,300. I will try to double spring the return to see if
it can be done. Next I will be going to a machine shop to see if they can make
some stiffer springs.
I am still excited about this, because after warm up, I saw the lowest fuel flow
reading I have ever seen under idle conditions. And again, no dribble on the
wing from the aircleaner.
It was cold but no wind at the airport this afternoon. Here it is about 10:30
PM and we have about four inches of new snow on the ground, and it is still snowing.
So it goes.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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