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1. 04:01 AM - VW engines (Kirk Smith)
2. 04:49 AM - Valley Engineering LLC (Richard Pike)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Valley Engineering LLC (Rick & Martha Neilsen)
4. 06:32 AM - Firefly (Chuck Davis - Comcast)
5. 06:41 AM - Re: Mark III Vertical Stabilizer (John Hauck)
6. 08:00 AM - Re: VW (jam'n)
7. 08:54 AM - Re: FireFly Wing Folding (Timandjan@aol.com)
8. 09:05 AM - vw engines (Bob Bean)
9. 11:32 AM - Re: Booster Bottle & Bing - Update #3 (Jack & Louise Hart)
10. 11:34 AM - Re: FireFly Wing Folding (Go5for4@aol.com)
11. 12:21 PM - Battery source needed (Fackler, Ken)
12. 12:31 PM - Re: Battery source needed (Terry)
13. 12:33 PM - Re: Battery source needed (Jack & Louise Hart)
14. 12:59 PM - Re: Battery source needed (John Hauck)
15. 01:56 PM - Re: Battery source needed (Jim Ballenger)
16. 02:47 PM - Re: Battery source needed (Paul Petty)
17. 03:03 PM - Fw: Firefly Folding (H MITCHELL)
18. 03:38 PM - FireFly Wing Folding (H MITCHELL)
19. 05:59 PM - Re: FireFly Wing Folding (Beauford Tuton)
20. 06:35 PM - Re: Battery source needed (Richard Harris)
21. 06:47 PM - Re: Battery source needed (Bruce n' Kathy)
22. 07:55 PM - Re: FireFly Wing Folding (John Hauck)
23. 07:57 PM - Oil Injection Bubble (VIC)
24. 08:23 PM - Re: Oil Injection Bubble (John Hauck)
25. 09:16 PM - obtain rotax service manuals/447 (Gary robert voigt)
26. 09:45 PM - Re: obtain rotax service manuals/447 (possums)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Heres a couple of places with Vee Dubya engines and PRSU's. Kirk
http://www.altimizer.com/specs.html
http://www.greatplainsas.com/
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| Subject: | Valley Engineering LLC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
These guys make a redrive for the VW.
Saw their airplane at Oshkosh in 98, excellent climb rate.
http://members.sockets.net/~ranchair/index.html
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Valley Engineering LLC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrm@cs.com>
This is the reduction drive I have on my VW. It seems to be a great product.
Some people have had concerns that it isn't strong enough to work properly
but Gene Smith has been producing these reduction drives for over six years
with no problems. I spent most of last summer experimenting with different
ratios to get the best performance out of my engine prop setup, talked
Gene's ear off and my only cost was shipping the parts back to him. They own
Culver props so they really would like to have one of their props on my
airplane but they were very willing to work with me to get my PowerFin
matched to my engine. This is also the same reduction drive that Great
Plains Aircraft distributes.
I will say it again the reduction drive transformed my direct drive VW
powered MKIII from marginal single place airplane to a high performance two
passenger airplane with just the change to a reduction drive and a larger
prop.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIII
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Subject: Kolb-List: Valley Engineering LLC
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
These guys make a redrive for the VW.
Saw their airplane at Oshkosh in 98, excellent climb rate.
http://members.sockets.net/~ranchair/index.html
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Chuck Davis - Comcast <davis207@comcast.net>
Bill,
I use a painting ladder. Prop it under the wing tip so that the pressure on the
bottom strut attachment is minimal, and pull the pin. After you fold the strut
back along side the underside of the wing, you cal lower the wing tip to the
ground.
PS. We should get together when all the d*&m snow melts. I am in Pennington.
Chuck Davis
Firefly 028
Time: 08:01:40 PM PST US
From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Wing Folding
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Can someone tell me how you fold the wings on a FireFly? Can one person do
it?
I have an Original FireStar and fold the wings by myself for every flight. I
support the wing with my shoulder and using both hands, hold the upper end of
the strut and pull the pin from the top mount. I then lower the strut to the
top of my foot, then lower that to the ground. I then work my way out to the
end of the wing and lower it to the ground, turning the aileron up in the
process.
The FireFly has two struts that do not disconnect from the wing. So how do
you support the wing while removing the pin from the fuselage attach point?
Bill Varnes
Original FireStar
Audubon NJ
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III Vertical Stabilizer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I hope you will cut the end of any inner or outer sleeve either diagonally
> or with an end slit so as to relieve the stress ie spread the loads at that
> point
>
> Vnz
Vnz/Gang:
Done.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jam'n" <jghunter@nol.net>
hi...
maybe... but one can do at least a few things...
cams
piston shape
pin heigth
compression ratio
head work
spring work
valve size
valve shape
angle seat cut...ah-h...
rocker ratio
reduce weight
exhaust work
ignition work
timing advance
blower
turbo...
pulley
(am thinking there may be even some more...)
oh, yea...
intake work
carb work
injection
coatings
dry film
deck clamp
deck heigth
port and relieve... hmmm.... [thinking...]
fasteners...
prob even some more... but i am at a loss... sorry...
then there is all the trim items...
california was/is famous for vdub hop up mods and parts...
> > works fine for the legal eagles...
> > usually requires a redrive to get piston speed to make torque
> > can be hopped up
>
jam'n
>
> jam'n/Gang:
>
> Don't think I have ever seen one with a redrive.
> Also thought they were about as hopped up as they
> could get. If they could have produced more
> power, I am sure a lot of folks would have loved
> to have had that capability, back in the good ole
> days.
>
> john h
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Wing Folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
I made a neat holder, basically a saw horse build to the wing angle, works if
it is a bit lower, I set it under the wing, pull the strut off, then remove
the spar pin and fold. I found that by having it a bit lower, the spar pin
comes out (and back in) easier. Also by having it angled as the wing is, if I
need it to be higher or lower, I just move it back and forth to get it to be
higher or lower. It does'nt always use the whole part of the sawhorse but
sometimes just the leading edge might rest on it etc. works as a helping
hand. mine folds up and straps to the trailer to take with me. Worked great
for the almost 200 Firestar 2 hours that I had to fold it each time to fly.
(no more, finally got my own hangar) I also made some neat jigs to hold
things, the aileron push tubes for instance and a jig to hold the ailerons
upright rather than folding them in. Most things bungee to themself. No more
dropping the aileron push pull tubes and having them bang against the ground.
I also made a neat jig that goes around the boom tube, supports the prop so
it does not dig into the fabric. Guess how I know this happens after a long
trailering. (open trailer).
Tim
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
The vw engine is an honest and durable powerplant and the choice of
aftermarket speed equipment most likely exceeds even that of the
small block chevy. The problem lies in the fact that the vast majority
of airplane builders are not engine people. -out of the box and on the
plane, don't have time for that. How many have seen the greasy, grimey,
looks like it came straight from the junkyard, vw engine running happily
on a dirty old volksplane covered with birdshit. And the guy has the
nerve to go to a flyin breakfast in it. Amazing! -BB, back to some more
welding.
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| Subject: | Re: Booster Bottle & Bing - Update #3 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
Kolbers,
I installed a second spring to assist the original throttle slide valve return
spring. This combination seemed strong enough to keep the modified throttle closed.
The engine idled at 1850 rpm. I ran two tests. First with the modified
throttle valve followed with the unmodified throttle valve. No changes were
made except to replace the valves. The modified throttle valve on average
increased the EGT's by 71 degrees.
If you would like to see the data, they can be seen on the bottom of:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly90.html
Over all, the booster bottle concept looks promising but the weather is clearing
and warming, so it is time to fly.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Wing Folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Go5for4@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 11:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com writes:
> Can someone tell me how you fold the wings on a FireFly? Can one person do
> it?
>
I made a say horse of sorts with an inclined horizontal support. After I
took out the pin for the struts it would hold up the wing while would take
the pin out of the forward support. Then I would go to the wing tip and walk
it around to the wing holders on the tube.
do not archive
Merle Hargis in Orlando, Fl.
flying Firefly
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| Subject: | Battery source needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Good afternoon, fellow Kolbers!
The battery in my Mark II has gone kaput. I just finished driving over two
counties trying to find someone who could sell me a replacement of the same
dimensions to no avail. The one I have now is PowerSonic, dimensions 7"
wide, 3" thick, and 6.75 " tall.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a source, hopefully a reasonably priced
one?
-Ken Fackler
Mark II / 503
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Battery source needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
Ken,
There is a local place here called Battery Warehouse and they seem to have
whatever I've wanted so far. 717-392-8484 Lancaster PA
Terry
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fackler, Ken
Subject: Kolb-List: Battery source needed
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Good afternoon, fellow Kolbers!
The battery in my Mark II has gone kaput. I just finished driving over two
counties trying to find someone who could sell me a replacement of the same
dimensions to no avail. The one I have now is PowerSonic, dimensions 7"
wide, 3" thick, and 6.75 " tall.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a source, hopefully a reasonably priced
one?
-Ken Fackler
Mark II / 503
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: Battery source needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 03:20 PM 3/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
>Good afternoon, fellow Kolbers!
>
>The battery in my Mark II has gone kaput. I just finished driving over two
>counties trying to find someone who could sell me a replacement of the same
>dimensions to no avail. The one I have now is PowerSonic, dimensions 7"
>wide, 3" thick, and 6.75 " tall.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions for a source, hopefully a reasonably priced
>one?
>
>-Ken Fackler
>Mark II / 503
>Rochester MI
>
Ken,
You may want to try:
http://www.power-sonic.com/
Good luck.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Battery source needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Ken/Gents:
I haven't used either of these companies, but the
folks on the Thumper List have and are highly
recommended. I believe both ship free. They have
the latest in Yausa and their own brand name.
The foil type battery that I have been flying with
for the last three years, ATP I think, has gone
belly up and not available on the internet. Tom
Pehigny, Flight Star, told me he has another
source for them. I highly recommend this type
battery. Same technology and same people as Start
Stick for my present bat.
http://www.motorcyclebatteriesusa.com/index.asp
http://www.pacificbattery.com/
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Battery source needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Ken
I noticed Lockwood Aviation carries Power Sonic batteries.
Jim Ballenger
Flying a FS KXP 447
Building a MK III X
Virginia Beach, VA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Battery source needed
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Good afternoon, fellow Kolbers!
>
> The battery in my Mark II has gone kaput. I just finished driving over two
> counties trying to find someone who could sell me a replacement of the
same
> dimensions to no avail. The one I have now is PowerSonic, dimensions 7"
> wide, 3" thick, and 6.75 " tall.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for a source, hopefully a reasonably
priced
> one?
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Battery source needed |
REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, SUBJECT_IS_LIST, USER_AGENT_OE,
USER_IN_WHITELIST)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
What type? Gell,sealed,wet,?
I have them
pp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Battery source needed
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Good afternoon, fellow Kolbers!
>
> The battery in my Mark II has gone kaput. I just finished driving over two
> counties trying to find someone who could sell me a replacement of the
same
> dimensions to no avail. The one I have now is PowerSonic, dimensions 7"
> wide, 3" thick, and 6.75 " tall.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for a source, hopefully a reasonably
priced
> one?
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: Firefly Folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ledbetter
Subject: Firefly Folding
Duane,
Please post the following message on the Kolb list for me. The list
won't take my messages since I can't send to it from my home email
server while I'm here in Florida.
Gene
Bill,
I have a Firefly and have been flying out of a trailer for over 2 years
so I have assembled and disassembled my Firefly probally 125 to 150
times mostly by myself. I included handholds in the ends of the wings
and use a light (1" X 3") A frame with a coat hook to go thru the
handhold to support the wing after unfolding it. When folded, the wing
struts are held by a bungee cord from the end of the strut to the
handhold in the end of the wing. Since I have the extended leading
edge tubes in the gapseal area, I have to lift the front edge of the
wing for the strut to clear the ground and front of the tire. I then
insert the upper pin followed by the lower pin. This is repeated for
the other side and reversed to refold the wings. I can normally have
the Firefly assembled in less than 20 minutes and my record time for
putaway is 13 minutes if I don't have help.
If you have a solid gap seal and cut off the leading edge tubes in that
area, you can lay the wingtips on the ground and then raise the wingtip
high enough for the strut to go over the tire. This doesn't work for
me with the extended leading edge tubes.
Hope this helps..
Gene
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| Subject: | FireFly Wing Folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Whiskey et al,
I have been folding and unfolding my FireFly for two years now. If no one is around
to help I use my wing support but if you build it right you won't need anything
but a towel and two bungies. The bungies hold the strut up against the
under side of the wing while folding. You can let the wing tip to rest on the
grass (towel for dirt or asphalt) while you put those wing root pins in. When
it comes time to put the strut pins in you can lift the wing at the panel where
the reinforcement for the 1/2" storage bracket fits into the wing, unhook the
bungie, swing the stut into place and insert the pin.
I use my wing support if I have it with me. It is made from a discarded stand from
one of those cheap high-intensity lights. It is adjustable for height and
the top fixture is a piece of plywood covered with carpet to prevent scuffing
the bottom of the wing. I ran over my original unit with my truck one night but
found a replacement at the local Goodwill store a short time later so they are
available.
Hope this helps,
Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL, FireFly SN 007, 447, 140 Hrs.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Wing Folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Bill:
I reckon, from reading the responses, that there are a number of ways to do
it... some involving trapezes, mirrors and the services of scantily attired
ladies... let me go on record as saying that I admire all that and am openly
envious of people who can arrange such......
For starters, you might have observed that since the two Firefly struts are
attached firmly together at the lower end, and bolted to the respective
sides of the spar attachment fittings at the top, they tend to pretty much
behave as one unit...
I, being cheap and essentially simple by nature, naturally take the cheap
way out... I clip a piece of common rope to the bottom of the struts, then
pulling the strut pin, use the struts to support the wing for the next
steps... These steps are accomplished by first rotating the struts outward
and downward (as a unit) to a vertical position under the wing... I then
plant the bottom end of the struts on the ground to hold the wing up ( I
work from a grass strip)... and then, grasping the leading edge of the
wing, I pull the main spar pin... Next, holding the strut rope in my
cigar and coffee stained teeth, and keeping forward pressure on the wing by
grasping the leading edge, I then ease my way out the leading edge of the
wing to the tip.... Once there, I support the tip in one hand, whilst
pulling the struts up outboard alongside the bottom of the wing with the now
somewhat soggy and spit-laden rope... Once I have gained some measure of
control over the unhinged (in two axes) wing, I then move carefully toward
the tail with it, rotating ninety degrees as I go, and holding continuous
tension on the rope to make certain that the struts behave themselves and
stay closely aligned against the bottom of the wing during the movement.
Once the wing is safely hung on the support bracket at the tail, I drape the
strut rope artfully over the folded tail assembly...
In the interests of intellectual honesty, I feel obligated to point out that
my best record for folding the wings and putting the Firefly away in its
trailer is a mere one hour and forty three minutes.... I'm working toward
two hours....
Works for me.... sigh....
Beauford, the Aluminum Butcher of Brandon, FL
FF-076
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Wing Folding
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
>
> Can someone tell me how you fold the wings on a FireFly? Can one person
do
> it?
>
> I have an Original FireStar and fold the wings by myself for every flight.
I
> support the wing with my shoulder and using both hands, hold the upper end
of
> the strut and pull the pin from the top mount. I then lower the strut to
the
> top of my foot, then lower that to the ground. I then work my way out to
the
> end of the wing and lower it to the ground, turning the aileron up in the
> process.
>
> The FireFly has two struts that do not disconnect from the wing. So how
do
> you support the wing while removing the pin from the fuselage attach
point?
>
> Bill Varnes
> Original FireStar
> Audubon NJ
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Battery source needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
Ken, Just got on line, Take a look at. Batteries4everthing.com. I have had
dealing with these folks.. they are for real
https://www.batteries4everything.com/index.html
N912RH
Lewisville, Arkansas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Battery source needed
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Good afternoon, fellow Kolbers!
>
> The battery in my Mark II has gone kaput. I just finished driving over two
> counties trying to find someone who could sell me a replacement of the
same
> dimensions to no avail. The one I have now is PowerSonic, dimensions 7"
> wide, 3" thick, and 6.75 " tall.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for a source, hopefully a reasonably
priced
> one?
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Battery source needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce n' Kathy" <n3nrr@erols.com>
I buy mine at Ham radio fests for about 15 bucs
or Check with a local secuirty alarm company, They sometimes have pulls
from large companys that requre them to be changed more often than
necessary.
--
Bruce n' Kathy
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Wing Folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> In the interests of intellectual honesty, I feel obligated to point out that
> my best record for folding the wings and putting the Firefly away in its
> trailer is a mere one hour and forty three minutes.... I'm working toward
> two hours....
>
> Works for me.... sigh....
> Beauford, the Aluminum Butcher of Brandon, FL
Beauford/Gang:
Phewwwwwww!!!
I really feel bad now. I have been complaining
because my MK III is heavy and difficult to push
out of the hanger. A lot easier to put back in
cause it is down hill all the way.
Best time: Probably a minute and a half to push
it out and a minute to roll it back in.
Bad thing is the cow crap, but better than going
through the wing fold dance.
Hope to see you at Sun and Fun. Hope to see
everybody at Sun and Fun.
john h
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| Subject: | Oil Injection Bubble |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "VIC" <vicw@vcn.com>
I removed the oil tube and used a medicine dropper to fill the tube to
eliminate the bubble and reinstalled the oil tube. Flew for an hour and the
bubble is back in the front oil tube only.
Any one got an idea?
Vic
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Injection Bubble |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
minate the bubble and reinstalled the oil tube.
Flew for an hour and the
> bubble is back in the front oil tube only.
>
> Any one got an idea?
>
> Vic
Vic/Gang:
Yep.
You have an air leak between the tank and the
engine or your oil is being aerated in the tank.
One or the other or both.
MOHO.............
john h
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| Subject: | obtain rotax service manuals/447 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Hello fellow flyers, i would like to purchase a set of service
manuals for the rotax 447, where is the best place to purchase these
from. i would like to become more familar with my engine and also do a
partial teardown of rings and decarbon. i'am use to working on the 1
cylinder 350 rpm's vs. the higher revs.
getting ready to blow snow again in the morning.
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
Excelsior, mn.
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| Subject: | Re: obtain rotax service manuals/447 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 11:16 PM 3/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt"
><johndeereantique@qwest.net>
>
> Hello fellow flyers, i would like to purchase a set of service
>manuals for the rotax 447, where is the best place to purchase these
>from. i would like to become more familar with my engine and also do a
>partial teardown of rings and decarbon. i'am use to working on the 1
>cylinder 350 rpm's vs. the higher revs.
>getting ready to blow snow again in the morning.
>
> thanks,
> Gary r. voigt
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