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1. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: Powersonic Battery (Bruce n' Kathy)
2. 05:19 AM - Re: Re: Powersonic Battery (Bruce n' Kathy)
3. 05:38 AM - Re: Summer Windshield... (BSaf119141@aol.com)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Summer Windshield... (johnjung@compusenior.com)
5. 06:01 AM - foot clearance (zoperman@att.net)
6. 06:52 AM - Re: Drag strut end fitting (John Cooley)
7. 06:56 AM - Re: Float Charger (Hans vanAlphen)
8. 07:19 AM - Re: Summer Windshield... (BKlebon@aol.com)
9. 07:26 AM - Re: Summer Windshield... (Jack & Louise Hart)
10. 08:41 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 03/08/03 (JaGifford@aol.com)
11. 09:04 AM - Re: Engine (CaptainRon)
12. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: Float Charger (Bruce n' Kathy)
13. 09:40 AM - Re: Drag strut end fitting (CaptainRon)
14. 10:02 AM - Chargers (Larry Bourne)
15. 10:03 AM - Re: Summer Windshield... (John Hauck)
16. 10:20 AM - Re: Drag strut end fitting (RWilliJill@aol.com)
17. 10:21 AM - Re: Kawasaki (John Hauck)
18. 12:57 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun (John Hauck)
19. 01:13 PM - Re: Kawasaki (Kirk Smith)
20. 01:19 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun (Jon Croke)
21. 01:54 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun (John Hauck)
22. 02:23 PM - Re: Kawasaki (woody)
23. 02:45 PM - Re: Kawasaki (John Hauck)
24. 03:09 PM - BMW R1100 engines (Kirk Smith)
25. 05:38 PM - Re: BMW R1100 engines (CaptainRon)
26. 05:53 PM - Re: Engine (Christopher Armstrong)
27. 07:35 PM - Sun n fun (Bob Bean)
28. 07:46 PM - Re: Sun n fun (John Hauck)
29. 08:44 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | Re: Powersonic Battery |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce n' Kathy" <n3nrr@erols.com>
Hay Larry
Float chargers >>>> they are little transformsers with a voltage
regulator attached, so they won't over charge, I belive 13.6 volts@ up
to 500 MA
They are great for gell cells and other stuff (sure wish they made them
for 6 volts) I use them on car batteries and mc and everything.
Here are a couple tricks for Harbor Freight.
You may use this cupon # when ordering it expires Apr 1, you get free
shipping and $5 bucks off handling. # 237-784-939 Ph 800-423-2567
Trick 1. You can mix and match from any catalog.
2. If you dont find it on sale in the current catalog use an older
catalog # if you cant find it on sale, give them the part # such as
41288-0rub. and if thy dont give you the best price give them the
first digits and change the extiontion to -1 or dash 2 EX(41288-2)or up
to 9 untill they give you the price you find is the best, they hate
this but what the HEY. it works on all thieir products.
3. Be sure to order by visa, mc or some sort of card for your conviene.
I hope buy now you use visa for all purchases,, Mine gives me $1 percent
back on all purchases, plus buyers protection.
4. The reason for using credit is, if harbor freight offers the same
item cheeper within 1 year they refund the diffrence.
Dont forget to play this game on other items
Nitrle gloves are 12.99 unless u cheat then they are 6.99 for 100
I have had a few bad runs of their gloves such as wrong sizes in
correct box. inferiour nitrle that rips etc. but they pay to
mail/return bad ones, I alwasy order extra stuff Makes great stocking
stuffers.
--
Bruce n' Kathy
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| Subject: | Re: Powersonic Battery |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce n' Kathy" <n3nrr@erols.com>
Anybody use the 9" saftey wire pliers Harbor feright has for 7.99?
--
Bruce n' Kathy
Come and visit us at http://www.frugalbee.com
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| Subject: | Re: Summer Windshield... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BSaf119141@aol.com
Gang,
I fly a 1989 Firestar single
seater with a full enclosure. Sitting on the ground in 95 degree weather it
gets pretty hot, but your not on the ground for very long. I also put in the
snap vents and once in the air there is no problem. I live in Nebraska so in
fall, winter and spring its needed. I also have a question, how many of you
that have a firestar 11 actually fly a passenger in it? I am thinking of
building one and would like to take my daughters once in a while. I know I
would need a liscense and I'm looking into that also. Does the mark111 fly
much different than a firestar? Thanks
Brad
Firestar1
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| Subject: | Re: Summer Windshield... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "johnjung@compusenior.com" <johnjung@compusenior.com>
James and Group,
I started flying my Firestar II with the small windscreen, but once I
put on the larger one, I never went back. IMO the Firestar II is too
fast for the small windscreen. There is one problem with the larger
windscreen: reflected light from inside the cockpit. To minimize this, I
have black carpet and have painted about everything inside the cockpit
flat black.
John Jung
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: zoperman@att.net
Jim, I bought a C-170 from a guy who always flew it wearing slippers,for
better feel. He was right, as the brakes on that bird were real touchy.
Get the slimmest shoes you can find, keep them in the plane and be carefull
who sees you in them.Del.
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| Subject: | Re: Drag strut end fitting |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hi Ron and Gang,
I had a similar problem on my FS II when I built it. I wound up enlarging
the alum drag strut just enough to get the drag strut fitting to the
required depth. If you don't get it in far enough, then when rigging the
wings you probably won't be able to get them aligned properly. What happened
to me was that I didn't get the drag strut fitting in far enough initially
and when rigging the wings using a sting along the leading and trailing
edges I didn't have enough metal to drill through on the wing tabs. Didn't
realize this till after the fact. Wound up having new tabs welded on the
root rib. Also be careful to not get them too deep. This is only a problem
if you fold your wings. If too deep then the bolt in the universal joint
will hit the bottom tube of the root rib and bend or dent it. Hope this
helps some.
Later,
John Cooley
Subject: Kolb-List: Drag strut end fitting
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: RWilliJill@aol.com
>
> Question?
>
> Both the wings to my firestar II are almost complete and rigging them to
> the fuselage cage will be the next big hurdle. I had put a very light coat
of
> epoxy primer
> on the 2 drag strut end fittings and tried sliding them into the drug
strut
> tube. Well, they sure don't go in as far as the plans call for, which
calls
> for them to protrude 3/4 inches out of the drag strut tube so I figured I
> had too much primer. I took it all back off on the last half of the
fitting
> and it still sticks out 1 1/4." The single rivet
> that temporally holds the drag strut to the inboard rib isn't the problem
> because the fitting goes a little past that point. The drag strut fitting
is
> flattened on the end where the small tube is welded. This slightly
flattened
> portion is what is preventing it from going all the way in. I realize the
3/4
> " measurement is approximate because the final drilling for the bolt when
> rigging will determine that. The question is, if I have to file either the
> steel drag strut fitting or the inside if the aluminum drag strut tube,
which
> would cause less weakening of the structure. I'm hoping it doesn't have to
go
> in that far. I looked in the archives and this particular question hasn't
> been posed.
>
> Thanks to any one who will respond to this
> lengthy question.
>
> Ron Williams
> Firestar II
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| Subject: | Re: Float Charger |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hans vanAlphen" <hva@bellsouth.net>
Hey Larry,
A "Float Charger" is just a very small transformer that uses 110 volts AC
and puts out about 13.5 to 13.8 volts DC.
It cannot over-charge or cook your battery, since it will only charge the
battery to the ideal voltage of 13.8
I have installed a flush receptacle in the nose cone for a Radio Shack audio
connector to hook up the float charger, rather than using the clamps that
come with it.
Harbor freight # 42292-1VGA normally $14.99 on sale for $7.49 with this part
no. only. (www.harborfreight.com or 1-800-423-2567)
Harbor freight has many different prices for items based on the last numbers
and letters after the dash. If your not sure you are getting the sale price,
just give them the first numbers and get the cheapest price.
Dutchman are cheap, that's why we squeak when we walk. Going Dutch....
The Flying Dutchman
Hans van Alphen
Mark III Xtra
BMW powered
100 hours.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> OK, I'll bite.......................what's a "float charger ??" Just
threw
> my H.F. catalog away, too. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Summer Windshield... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BKlebon@aol.com
I flew for 1 1/2 hours yesterday. Temps on Maryland's eastern shore
reached a balmy 55 deg. About three years ago I installed a slightly longer
summer windshield I made out of slightly thicker lexan I purchased from
Aircraft Spruce. The original windshield deflected somewhat at higher speeds,
allowing a cold blast of air to hit you.
For cool weather flying I purchased a neoprene face mask. They can be
found at most ski or motorcylce shops. That along with a full coverage helmet
allow for comfortable cool weather flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Summer Windshield... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 04:40 PM 3/8/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
>
>Hello listers,
>
>Anyway, to my question. How many firestar II pilots here fly with the full
>enclosure and how many fly with a summer windshield? I came from flying a
>trike, so I am used to and enjoy the wind in my face type flying. I felt way
>too tight in the Kolb with the full enclosure, so I put on the summer
>shield. Love it. I like the look of it a whole lot more and with 60-70
>degree flying here (at least on the ground and in the sun) right now, I
>figured I could just dress for a little warmer. Do most of you guys keep the
>enclosure on in the summer or is it a switch when it gets warmer?
>
>Another question, I was out there to taxi test my Firestar II today and I
>ended up doing everything but as the traffic and wind were pretty hairy, but
>I did do a little bit. The heal brakes.... don't like em... Is there another
>solution for the firestar to allow differential braking or is that it. I
>have big feet and with running shoes on it was pretty easy to get hung up on
>something or another down there... I think I will fly in the summer with the
>old converse court shoes rather than jogging shoes. I feel like I need a
>little more feel for the rudders and brakes than the thick soles allow me...
>is this normal....
>
>James Alderson
>
James,
I fly with a short windshield all year around. During warm weather, I wear a soft
flying helmet and goggles and thin soled shoes. As the air temperature drops,
I add the clothes. When air temperatures fall below 45 degrees F., I wear
a throat sock, leather jacket and gloves and heavy socks. When air temperatures
fall below freezing, I add a head sock, LLBean cold weather jacket (two
piece), ski mittens and pants, and insulated boots. Adding the clothes adds just
a few minutes to flight preparation, but one can fly in complete comfort.
The only problem I have had, is when I forgot to open the google air vents.
I thought I was slowly going blind until I figured out that my google and/or glasses
were fogging up.
It was difficult to get used to the insulated boots with rubber soles on the steel
rudder pedals and the corresponding loss of feel. But one becomes used to
it as one continues to fly with less feel and using more of the visual reference
frame. The FireFly nose cone is small and I have to be very careful getting
in and out of the plane and positioning my feet under the nose cone so that
I do not hit anything, especially with the boots on. What is neat is when it
warms and you do not have to wear the boots. Due to the increased feel, you
think you have a whole new plane to fly. I have a single hand brake lever on
the stick and I have not missed individual wheel brakes. It took a while to get
used to taxiing around and through other planes.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 03/08/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: JaGifford@aol.com
please change my email address to jagifford@charter.net
delete jagifford@aol.com
thanks,
jack gifford
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
3/6/03 12:10Kirk Smith
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> I never understood what the torque ratings were stating. Is it peak torque,
> average torque? Could make a lot of difference. Snuff
==========================>
They aint stating much of practical value. :-)
For me HP is what indicates thrust.
I suppose in a buy round way you can deduce the size of the cylinders kinda
visually,,, more torque bigger piston in same size engine.... Other than
that it means squat in an engine that uses an RDU.
But would be interesting to hear other p'inions.
I remember a saying from motordome; "hp is nice but torque is what moves ya"
or some such dribble... but which cought well in the lexicon of motorcar
soldiers. How it made its way into aviation is another of those
impondrables, after all most would like to leave their dirty shoes at the
door. :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Float Charger |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce n' Kathy" <n3nrr@erols.com>
Hans
The Frugalbee Is the cheepest!!!
I put up the cupon for free shipping and 5 dollars off handling
it is # 237-784-939 and is good till april Anyone can use it
catch 22 is orders of $29 or more.
--
Bruce n' Kathy
Come and visit us at http://www.frugalbee.com
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| Subject: | Re: Drag strut end fitting |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
3/9/03 7:56John Cooley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
>
> Hi Ron and Gang,
>
> I had a similar problem on my FS II when I built it. I wound up enlarging
> the alum drag strut just enough to get the drag strut fitting to the
> required depth.
=====================
I keep trying to decide what is meant by the drag strut?
Ya'all mean the lift strut, or the wing compression strut? I had the same
problem with the wing compression strut. Had to remove all the epoxy primer
from the steel insertion tube for it to fit, it is snug and fits well. I
used LPS rust prevention juice to hopefully keep corrosion from developing.
I have not built the lift struts yet, as I am working on the assortment of
levers, pedals and controls within the cage.
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Thanks to everyone who responded to my float charger question - both on & off List.
I guess I'll need 3 of them, or even 4. Two for the boat, 1 for Vamoose,
and 1 for the J-5, if we ever get the engine sorted out. Thanks again.
Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: Summer Windshield... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The heal brakes.... don't like em... Is there another
> solution for the firestar to allow differential braking or is that it.
> James Alderson
James/Gang:
To me, it is important and necessary to be
comfortable whether I am flying, riding mountain
bike, or dirt bike. Was the same way flying
helicopters for the Army. Probably, even more so.
I have heel brakes in my MK III that have very
small pedals. Some shoes and boots do not work
well with them. I prefer deck shoes for local
flying and the classic Timberland hiking boots for
cross country. Both have small heels that fit the
pedals well.
Be careful with shoes that are large and bulky.
Can get you into trouble when you least expect
it. Maneuvering on the ground, especially when
landing in wind, depends on good differential
braking on my Mark III. In 1994, I came very
close to losing the MKIII during a landing on the
Dalton Highway (Pipe Line Haul Road) about 100
miles south of Dead Horse. For a frightening
moment I had missed the right brake pedal and was
heading for the shoulder of the gravel road and a
twenty foot drop off. Ouch! Not a good place for
something like that to happen.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Drag strut end fitting |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: RWilliJill@aol.com
Captain Ron
You are right, I didn't make myself exactly clear. My plans call the wing
compression strut as you refer to it, as the drag strut tubes. It's the 1" O.
D. tube that has the 7/8" O.D. tube slide into it that attaches at the
midpoint of the main wing spar and the other end has the steel drag strut
fitting, as my plans refer to it,
slide into the 7/8" tube and that is the part that is tight. I think I have
the answer that I was looking for from you fellows that had a similar problem
and as long as I can work around a problem, there is no problem. Thank you
all very kindly. I cherish your willingness to answer.
Ron Williams
Firestar II
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Fanbelt failure? How are the Jabiru engines staying cool on pushers? Kirk
Kirk/Gang:
There's a big fan on the rear of the Jabiru.
Someone mentioned radiator and water pump
failure. Somebody else mentioned fan belt
failure. I don't think any method of cooling that
works is a problem. Look around you at the number
of engines that are water cooled. How many
failures do you see? VW's had a good rep for
cooling with fans and belts. I never had a
problem with them.
I have flown with fan cooled and water cooled two
strokes, and nearly 1,600 hours with watercooled
four strokes. No sweat.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> New charts come out in 12 days, the flight is planned, only 22 days to departure
time.
>
> John Williamson
Hohn/Gang:
Plan to arrive Lakeland 1 April. Will probably do
the flight in a day, since Brother Jim will be out
of town. Usually RON Tallahassee, Florida, and
split the flight in half.
I plan to camp with my airplane in the Ultralight
Airplane Camping area on the NE side of the 1,500'
airstrip at Paradise City. Would be nice if we
could get all the Kolbs together in the
camping/tiedown area.
Steven Green, are you flying down? Possum and
your gang, are ya'll gonna fly down? Be a good
flight for Richard Pike too.
BTW: Looks like I'll be flying for my keep this
year. Ray Brown wants me to fly the New Fire
Fly. I have enjoyed flying it past S&F flyins.
Means I'll be there all week.
See ya'll down there.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> There's a big fan on the rear of the Jabiru.
I suspected something like that. hehehe.......Kirk
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
John and everyone,
We got a pretty good list of attendees started on www.KolbPilot.com for Sun
n Fun.
The list includes dates/directions on where individuals are staying, so if
you'd like, I'll add your details to the list. Everyone else that hasnt
repsonded or needs to change details.. feel free to respond on that website
and I'll keep it up to date. Also, links to the Sun n Fun website are there
too.
C U in Florida soon
Jon
do not archive
>
> Plan to arrive Lakeland 1 April. Will probably do
> the flight in a day, since Brother Jim will be out
> of town. Usually RON Tallahassee, Florida, and
> split the flight in half.
>
> I plan to camp with my airplane in the Ultralight
> Airplane Camping area on the NE side of the 1,500'
> airstrip at Paradise City. Would be nice if we
> could get all the Kolbs together in the
> camping/tiedown area.
>
> Steven Green, are you flying down? Possum and
> your gang, are ya'll gonna fly down? Be a good
> flight for Richard Pike too.
>
> BTW: Looks like I'll be flying for my keep this
> year. Ray Brown wants me to fly the New Fire
> Fly. I have enjoyed flying it past S&F flyins.
> Means I'll be there all week.
>
> See ya'll down there.
>
> john h
>
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> We got a pretty good list of attendees started on www.KolbPilot.com for Sun
> n Fun.
Jon
Thanks Jon.
Appreciate being added to the list.
See you all down in Lakeland.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
>
>
>Fanbelt failure? How are the Jabiru engines staying cool on pushers? Kirk
From what I hear we don't spend alot of time on the ground. Sounds good
to me.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> From what I hear we don't spend alot of time on the ground. Sounds good
> to me. Woody
Woody/Gang:
Based on information from a very reliable source,
someone who flies a straight drive Jabiru,
performance is not up to desired expectations.
They have proven reliable, but do not have the
kick of a 912 Rotax. Why? Can't turn a large
enough prop of more than two blades.
If I did not get that pronounced 912S kick, or in
the past the 912 kick in the pants type
performance, I too would be extremely
disappointed.
Straight drive Jabiru's will probably do better on
higher performance speedy type aircraft, not super
STOL type birds.
john h
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| Subject: | BMW R1100 engines |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Wonder how the BMW R1100 engines are performing. They are using them for everything
from trikes to Europa's in Europe. Air and oil cooled. Checking out a website
in England they have them from 80 to 100 hp. Sure look pretty! Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: BMW R1100 engines |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
3/9/03 16:10Kirk Smith
> Wonder how the BMW R1100 engines are performing. They are using them for
> everything from trikes to Europa's in Europe. Air and oil cooled. Checking
> out a website in England they have them from 80 to 100 hp.
=================
Sounds good! (mmmm,, gotta be a pun in there somewhere) do you have a link?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@CenturyTel.net>
>For me HP is what indicates thrust.
>I suppose in a buy round way you can deduce the size of the cylinders kinda
>visually,,, more torque bigger piston in same size engine.... Other than
>that it means squat in an engine that uses an RDU.
>But would be interesting to hear other p'inions.
I think that a little math may clear up the situation for ya.
HP = Torque x RPM 5252
the 5252 is the units conversion factor, it would be something else for a
different set of units, the rest comes from
POWER = FORCE x DISTANCE per unit if time. (basic deffnition of power)
so we get:
POWER = (TORQUE RADIUS) x (RPM x RADIUS x 2 x pi)
and
HP = (TORQUE RADIUS) x (RPM x RADIUS x 2 x pi) 33,000
(One HORSEPOWER is defined as 33000 foot-pounds of work per minute)
By reducing, we get
HP = TORQUE x RPM x 2 x pi 33,000
Since
33000 6.2832 =5252
thus
HP = TORQUE x RPM 5252
Note that at 5252 RPM, torque and HP are equal. At any RPM below 5252, the
value of torque is greater than the value of HP; Above 5252 RPM, the value
of torque is less than the value of HP. )
what all this means is that power is determined by torque and engine
rotational velocity. so a reduction drive is also a torque multiplier.
rearranging the equation and you get
torque = HP/RPM*5252
if you reduce the RPM by 2 you double the torque. so a reduction drive
isn't just good because you can spin a bigger prop slowly to get high
efficiency, and spin the engine fast where it can make more power, but it
increases the torque at the prop for a given power, allowing you to overcome
more prop rotational drag so you can increase prop pitch and generate more
thrust. So reduction drives are win win win.
of course they also add weight, complexity and cost... so they are lose lose
lose!
notice #wins = #loses, which is another basic rule of physics, so we must be
right.
Topher
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
touristers, being a first timer to this event, opinions as to good days to
attend? My interest leans toward gazing on new ideas and great
craftsmanship.
and , of course Kolbs and Kolbers.
--airshows and warbirds have lost their appeal. -jaded BB do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> touristers, being a first timer to this event, opinions as to good days to
> attend? jaded BB
BB/Gang:
This S&F will be my 20th consecutive year in
attendance.
As a first timer, come on down and indulge and
enjoy everything. Then next year, come back and
concentrate on only what you truly desire to see.
Being over in Paradise City, I usually spend my
time with the airplanes and folks I like the most,
the ultralights and light planes. I usually make
one foot journey over to the main area to look
through the displays.
There is something for everyone who enjoys
anything reference aviation.
See you all down there,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Yeah it would, except I am up to my armpits in engine swap.
Plan to be there Saturday.
C ya.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 02:56 PM 3/9/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Be a good
>flight for Richard Pike too.
>
>john h
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Thanks! And have a blessed day.
rp
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Wing Folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Thanks to all who replied answering my question on how to handle the FF
wing/strut during folding. Lets see, there was Chuck Davis; Tim; Merle
Hargis; Gene Ledbetter; and I suppose I should be honored to have received a
reply from the literary gentleman, "Beauford Tuton".
Do Not Archive
Bill Varnes
Original FireStar
Audubon NJ
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