Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/10/03


Total Messages Posted: 37



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     1. 01:06 AM - Re: Drag strut end fitting (Vincehallam@aol.com)
     2. 04:29 AM - Re: BMW R1100 engines (Kirk Smith)
     3. 04:32 AM - Ultrastar pics (Ed Steuber)
     4. 04:46 AM - Re: Engine (Kirk Smith)
     5. 04:59 AM - Fuel Filter level... (Alderson, James)
     6. 06:05 AM - Re: Drag strut end fitting (RWilliJill@aol.com)
     7. 06:08 AM - Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share (Richard Pike)
     8. 06:32 AM - Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable! (John Hauck)
     9. 07:08 AM - Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable! (Kirk Smith)
    10. 07:16 AM - Re: Ultrastar pics (Chris Sudlow)
    11. 07:21 AM - (no subject) (John Hauck)
    12. 07:43 AM - Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable! (Don Gherardini)
    13. 08:07 AM - Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Don Gherardini)
    14. 08:33 AM - Sheet Metal Fuselage Tail (John Hauck)
    15. 08:41 AM - [Fw: Sheet Metal Fuselage Tail] (John Hauck)
    16. 08:49 AM - Re: Engine (CaptainRon)
    17. 08:53 AM - Re: Sheet Metal Fuselage Tail (Kirk Smith)
    18. 08:57 AM - Re: Drag strut end fitting (CaptainRon)
    19. 09:45 AM - Re: Drag strut end fitting (CaptainRon)
    20. 11:43 AM - Re: vw engines (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
    21. 12:46 PM - More End Cap Pics (John Hauck)
    22. 01:34 PM - Re: Kawasaki (woody)
    23. 01:38 PM - Another Pic of End Cap (John Hauck)
    24. 02:54 PM - Re: Fuel Filter level... ()
    25. 04:31 PM - Re: Fuel Filter level... (ALLENB007@aol.com)
    26. 04:33 PM - Re: Fuel Filter level... (Peter Volum)
    27. 04:49 PM - Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! ()
    28. 04:56 PM - End Cap (possums)
    29. 05:05 PM - Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable! ()
    30. 05:15 PM - Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! ()
    31. 05:22 PM - Re: End Cap ()
    32. 05:24 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun (SGreenpg@aol.com)
    33. 06:15 PM - Hot Box And Battery Installation on Firestar (WILLIAM D BRADSHAW)
    34. 07:27 PM - Mk-3 trailer ()
    35. 07:40 PM - Re: End Cap (John Hauck)
    36. 07:57 PM - Re: Mk-3 trailer (John Hauck)
    37. 09:22 PM - Firestar Flips (John Hauck)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:06:18 AM PST US
    From: Vincehallam@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Drag strut end fitting
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Vincehallam@aol.com HI When you talk about preventing this corrosion ,do you mean inside the aluminium ? or normal rust on the steel? or are you referring to an electrolytic action between steel and aluminium? I ve only had electrolytic between stainless and alum ,...not with fairly mild steels Vnz


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    Time: 04:29:46 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: BMW R1100 engines
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> > > Sounds good! (mmmm,, gotta be a pun in there somewhere) do you have a link? > http://www.microlightsport.co.uk/Catalogue/bmwengine.htm Here ya go, sorry I didn't post it the first time........Kirk Do not archive


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    Time: 04:32:13 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: Ultrastar pics
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com> The pictures posted in photo share are obviously the wrong ones. Seems like everything on this project has to be done twice...... Lucky Ed in Western NY do not archive


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    Time: 04:46:47 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> > if you reduce the RPM by 2 you double the torque. so a reduction drive > isn't just good because you can spin a bigger prop slowly to get high > efficiency, and spin the engine fast where it can make more power, but it > increases the torque at the prop for a given power, allowing you to overcome > more prop rotational drag so you can increase prop pitch and generate more > thrust. So reduction drives are win win win. If you divide the rpm by 2 you double torque and also double the power pulses delivered per rev of the prop. I would think this time factor being shortened would also tend to make the power transition smoother. Kirk Do not archive


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    Time: 04:59:09 AM PST US
    From: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
    Subject: Fuel Filter level...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com> Hello listers, Once again, another question. I noticed my fuel filter has very little fuel in it at any time, but this doesn't seem to affect anything with the engine. In looking at a few others filters, they had about half of the filter filled with fuel, while mine has about half an inch at the bottom. Is this normal, a couple guys there said it just depends.... Thanks. James Alderson Kolb Firestar II / 503 Charlotte NC


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    Time: 06:05:45 AM PST US
    From: RWilliJill@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Drag strut end fitting
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: RWilliJill@aol.com Vince I'm going to add to the question you've just posed. Beings that I'm going to have to put the drag strut fitting into the end of the aluminum drag strut tube with most of the epoxy primer stripped off because of the tight fit, what about "rust" on a very important fitting. I mean, you know, that dang thing is one of the 3 fitting's that hold the wing to the airplane. I thought about in the rigging of the wing and drilling of the fitting to put primer back on it and slip it in while it is wet. But you know, with a tight fitting, it will probably strip it back off any way. For those of you that are already flying your airplane and have passed these petty stages of construction, I thank you for listing. In the end, common since will prevail, and I will do what's necessary to get the job done, but usually the consensus of the people has a certain validity. I'm going to be at Sun-and-Fun again for 15th time out of the last twenty years and if someone approaches you and the first thing out of his mouth is "Hey, man, I got a question," you'll know who I am, so please don't tell me you've suddenly feel a wave of stomach cramps coming on and rush off to the privy, to never be seen again. Thanks Ron Williams Forester II do not archive


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    Time: 06:08:53 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share
    Available! --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> A gorgeous piece of work, really first class. Is there any provision against the effect of the prop pulses on the streamline fabric covered section that you added on the back of the cage? On my MKIII, the fabric began to crack the paint and start to pull loose from the diagonal tubing longeron after about 200 hours, due to the prop pulses ahead of the prop pulsing against the right side of the cage. I also saw a MKIII several years ago that had the little "boat tail" like yours suffering fabric damage and detachment in that area. I had to go back in and add extra tape on the inside of mine, wrapped around the tubing and doped up against the inside of the fabric to reducing the flexing and help adhere it. You may have already done something like that, there are probably several ways to skin that cat. I would hate to see it get prematurely beat up by the prop pulses. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 09:43 PM 3/9/03 -0800, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares ><pictures@matronics.com> > > >A new Email List Photo Share is available: > > Poster: Dennis A Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> > > > Subject: Kolb Mk-3 N616DR > > >http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/rowedl@highstream.net.03.09.2003/index.html Help Stop Spam! Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life. Thanks! And have a blessed day. rp


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    Time: 06:32:25 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Is there any provision against the effect of the prop pulses on the > streamline fabric covered section that you added on the back of the cage? > Richard Pike Dennis/Richard/Gang: Mine started coming apart at 100 hours. Cut off some of the fabric bracing. Went back and covered the tail of the fuselage with .020 alum sheet. That's been many hours ago, and I haven't looked back. john h


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    Time: 07:08:17 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> . Went back and covered > the tail of the fuselage with .020 alum sheet. > That's been many hours ago, and I haven't looked > back. > > john h John, how did you attach the aluminum, with pop rivets? Kirk Do not archive?


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    Time: 07:16:20 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Sudlow" <sudlow77@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Ultrastar pics
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Sudlow" <sudlow77@earthlink.net> Hi All, Yes, those were pics of my MIII. Sent an email to Matt, I'm sure he'll fix it. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Ultrastar pics > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com> > > The pictures posted in photo share are obviously the wrong ones. Seems like everything on this project has to be done twice...... > Lucky Ed in Western NY > do not archive > >


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    Time: 07:21:57 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: (no subject)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > John, how did you attach the aluminum, with pop rivets? Kirk Kirk/Gang: Yes. Left the bottom and top fabric braces, especially the one that create the opening for the aileron bell crank arms. Popped a 1/2" or so vertical tube up the back with a coupld braces to hold it. Trimmed the alum to fit with a nice bend in the rear. Primed and painted, then popped in place. john h


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    Time: 07:43:30 AM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> ya John, more detail please detail pard!....did you weld on tabs to attach the alum to?..did you poprivit to frame tubeing?....and just how far forward did you go?....any pics anywhere? http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Don Gherardini- FireFly 098


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    Time: 08:07:37 AM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Dennis, Wonderful pics, and certainly looks like quality work!...my compliments! It is pics like these that give a builder so many ideas on how to acconmplish a task. And to all the members here....I never dreamed before I started my Kolb project, that this weath of info and help existed!....If we would have had the ability to share info in such a way back inthe late 70's and early 80's when i was building and selling weedhoppers...I cant imagine how much further along the sport would have been today! Thankyou all for providing your methods and techniques! Such a time savings and it helps to bring the quality of every buiders project to a higher level! http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Don Gherardini- FireFly 098


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    Time: 08:33:55 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Sheet Metal Fuselage Tail
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > ya John, more detail please detail pard! > Don Gherardini- Don/Gang: Riveted to rear vertical tubes. Then sealed rivets, plus tube seal in vertical tubes. Let me see if I can find some pics of it. If I can find them, I will post. john h


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    Time: 08:41:02 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: [Fwd: Sheet Metal Fuselage Tail]
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Let me see if I can find some pics of it. If I > can find them, I will post. > > john h Don/Kolbers: Here's one made by Paul Petty. If you need more, will have to wait until I return from town. Today is resupply day and I am running late. http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Pb240020.jpg john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:49:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine
    From: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com> 3/9/03 18:52Christopher Armstrong > I think that a little math may clear up the situation for ya. > > HP = Torque x RPM 5252 ================================= Thanks for the refresher. Another way of puttting it, is to say that for a given amount of HP you can reduce it to any torque value that you want. Most of our engines have an rdu on them, so at the hub we can within limits dial any torque setting that we want through the gearing. Its much harder to alter the HP rating on a given engine. Its I think easier to just look at the HP red line limit for the engine, and from there look at prop size and gear it accordingly. I will automatically get the max torque/prop efficiency at the hub. From my days at flying turbines the torque gage was just something we kept an eye on to make sure we didn't break anything, at low altitudes. :-)


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    Time: 08:53:49 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: Sheet Metal Fuselage Tail
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> > Let me see if I can find some pics of it. If I > can find them, I will post. > > john h That will be great! :o) Do not archive


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    Time: 08:57:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Drag strut end fitting
    From: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com> 3/10/03 2:04Vincehallam@aol.com > or are you referring to an > electrolytic action between steel and aluminium? I ve only had > electrolytic between stainless and alum ,...not with fairly mild steels > Vnz =============== Yes. In dry climes I don't think it will be much of a problem over say 10 years. In Florida and or Calif it could be a problem. Dissimilar metal corrosion is a danger. One of the reasons I coated my H brackets with epoxy primer and then Rust Oleum. 6061 aluminum is fairly good at corrossion resistance, still something to keep an eye on.


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    Time: 09:45:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Drag strut end fitting
    From: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com> 3/10/03 7:03RWilliJill@aol.com > I got a question," you'll know > who I am, so please don't tell me you've suddenly feel a wave of stomach > cramps coming on and rush off to the privy, to never be seen again. ================== A few months back when I started the build, the kindered spirits on this list were a great source of help to me. Its an unusual group of people here, they are willing to help. So don't worry about asking questions. do not archive


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    Time: 11:43:59 AM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Re: vw engines
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Bob Bean wrote: << The problem lies in the fact that the vast majority of airplane builders are not engine people. >> Bob, and Friends - I have to disagree with this statement. By the very nature of homebuilding, being a tinkerer with your airplane's powerplant is almost a necessity. Just look at the folks on this List - most are relatively engine-savvy. Perhaps a more accurate statement would be: "The vast majority of PRODUCTION AIRPLANE owners (Cessnas, Pipers, etc.) are not engine people." That I could believe. Dennis Kirby Mk-3, Verner, Powerfin72 in Cedar Crest, NM do not archive


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    Time: 12:46:47 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: More End Cap Pics
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Kolbers: More fuselage end cap pics by John Cooley and Paul Petty. The first two pics are John Cooley's and the rest are Paul's: http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/ john h


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    Time: 01:34:42 PM PST US
    From: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
    Subject: Re: Kawasaki
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net> A >Woody/Gang: > >Based on information from a very reliable source, >someone who flies a straight drive Jabiru, >performance is not up to desired expectations. >They have proven reliable, but do not have the >kick of a 912 Rotax. Why? Can't turn a large >enough prop of more than two blades. I hear they are better than a 582 ( from a guy that swapped a 582 for the Jabi on a mk 111) and that is good enough for me. Reliability is important to. I also think that with a well designed wood prop I will get better performance than with a warp drive.


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    Time: 01:38:36 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Another Pic of End Cap
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Kolbers: Bob Bean sent me one of my older pics. This was when Miss Pifer came out of the shop Spring 2000 with her new 912S. Thought she was ready for Point Barrow, Alaska, but I was a little wrong. :-) http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Hauck2.jpg john h


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    Time: 02:54:25 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Filter level...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> James, My filter has an air pocket in it also, it is the glass Purolater type with the replaceable element and it is mounted vertically I have 1.6 hours on her in my driveway now and the bubble does not seem to be inhibiting flow. I figure its OK to fly so I'm not worrying about it. Lets see if others agree. Denny Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: Alderson, James <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Filter level... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com> > > Hello listers, > > Once again, another question. I noticed my fuel filter has very little fuel > in it at any time, but this doesn't seem to affect anything with the engine. > In looking at a few others filters, they had about half of the filter filled > with fuel, while mine has about half an inch at the bottom. Is this normal, > a couple guys there said it just depends.... > > Thanks. > > James Alderson > Kolb Firestar II / 503 > Charlotte NC > >


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    Time: 04:31:21 PM PST US
    From: ALLENB007@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Filter level...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ALLENB007@aol.com James, The fuel filter has always been that way. I Asked John about his firestar and he said it was the same. Looked at it on sunday by accident while looking at other parts of his plane and it barely had any in it. allen


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    Time: 04:33:52 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
    Subject: Fuel Filter level...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> Mine only fills about 1/2 way. 100 hours of flight and no fuel problems. Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rowedl@highstream.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Filter level... --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> James, My filter has an air pocket in it also, it is the glass Purolater type with the replaceable element and it is mounted vertically I have 1.6 hours on her in my driveway now and the bubble does not seem to be inhibiting flow. I figure its OK to fly so I'm not worrying about it. Lets see if others agree. Denny Rowe


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    Time: 04:49:08 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> > > A gorgeous piece of work, really first class. Thanks Richard, that is really high praise comming from a craftsman such as yourself. Linda says my helmets not gonna fit me anymore. :-) > Is there any provision against the effect of the prop pulses on the > streamline fabric covered section that you added on the back of the cage? This kit was # 90 circa 1992,(I know its been a long time in the making, but I have only really worked seriously on it for about a year and a half total since we bought the kit in 97 from the original owner) The streamline part you refer to was Homers own idea. I guess I know now why Kolb quit putting those on. Well I think we may be OK with the fabric staying put, due to the fact that my lovely wife Linda insisted on covering both sides of the fuselage with one continuous piece of fabric. I used a small piece to cover the top panel of the rear area, and shrunk that little bugger till you could bounce a basit ball off it without it flexing. Than the bottom was covered and shrunk. Than we started at the front right side of the fuselage and unrolled a long piece of fabric back along the side, around the back and all the way up to the front on the left side. (Just remembered, the thing was upside down so reverse left and right in what I just described ) Than all was glued down to the perimeter tubing and trimmed, it overlaped the bottom fabric at least two inches all the way around. Also, we taped over fabric in all places it touched tubing. "I am hoping now" that the wide fabric to fabric glue joints on the bottom, and the fact that there is no seam around the skinny rear bow tube, as well as the reinforcing tape will keep her together. I'll keep a close eye on her. Note: the prop is a little over 5 inches behind the closest fabric. > On my MKIII, the fabric began to crack the paint and start to pull loose > from the diagonal tubing longeron after about 200 hours, due to the prop > pulses ahead of the prop pulsing against the right side of the cage. I also > saw a MKIII several years ago that had the little "boat tail" like yours > suffering fabric damage and detachment in that area. > > I had to go back in and add extra tape on the inside of mine, wrapped > around the tubing and doped up against the inside of the fabric to reducing > the flexing and help adhere it. You may have already done something like > that, there are probably several ways to skin that cat. > I would hate to see it get prematurely beat up by the prop pulses. I'll be bumming if this does happen, but I don't think there is much I can do about it now. Thanks for the heads up and the kind words on the project, I hope to post more photos soon with the wings on and would like to get some clearer photos of the engine installation also. Thanks to my buddy and co-owner Jay Swager for taking the photos. Sincerely, Denny Rowe > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > At 09:43 PM 3/9/03 -0800, you wrote: > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares > ><pictures@matronics.com> > > > > > >A new Email List Photo Share is available: > > > > Poster: Dennis A Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> > > > > > > Subject: Kolb Mk-3 N616DR > > > > > >http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/rowedl@highstream.net.03.09.2003/index. html > > > Help Stop Spam! > Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you > forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life. > Thanks! And have a blessed day. > rp > >


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    Time: 04:56:51 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
    Subject: End Cap
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com> You can still do it the "Old Fashion Way" Mine's been on 450+ hours and still got no cracks in the paint, or torn fabric. http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/covering.jpg http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/BRSsys.jpg http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Modrearframe.jpg http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Sideview.jpg Ain't it cute.


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    Time: 05:05:11 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> John, Thanks for the tip, if or when mine goes, I'll probably do somthing similar. Also was nice to see photos Miss Pfer again. It brought back memories of seeing here for the first time at Sun and Fun, mine and Lindas first year down there, on the last day of the show as I recall, I think you were sporting a 65 hp Hirth at the time if I recall correctly, I beleive you arrived too late for judging or you would surley have won Grand Champion light plane that year. I was in the middle of building my Loehle Sport Parasol at the time, and your paint job highly influenced our color choices on that ship. The next year you had a 582 on her, followed by the 912. We have hauled a lot of garbage with the Raiders over the years, as well as met a lot of nice folks and admired a ton of sweet birds at S&F. Now days with the kids all in school, our April trips to Lakeland will have to wait a while, I hope you all have as much fun there this year as we have had in the past. Sincerely, Denny Rowe "Sorry about the rambling" ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo ShareAvailable! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > > Is there any provision against the effect of the prop pulses on the > > streamline fabric covered section that you added on the back of the cage? > > > Richard Pike > > Dennis/Richard/Gang: > > Mine started coming apart at 100 hours. Cut off > some of the fabric bracing. Went back and covered > the tail of the fuselage with .020 alum sheet. > That's been many hours ago, and I haven't looked > back. > > john h > >


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    Time: 05:15:41 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Gherardini <donghe@one-eleven.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> > > Dennis, Wonderful pics, and certainly looks like quality work!...my > compliments! > It is pics like these that give a builder so many ideas on how to > acconmplish a task. > > And to all the members here....I never dreamed before I started my Kolb > project, that this weath of info and help existed!....If we would have had > the ability to share info in such a way back inthe late 70's and early 80's > when i was building and selling weedhoppers...I cant imagine how much > further along the sport would have been today! > Thankyou all for providing your methods and techniques! Such a time savings > and it helps to bring the quality of every buiders project to a higher > level! > > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > Don Gherardini- > FireFly 098 > > Don, Thank you for the kind words. I share all your feelings about the usefullness of this list. It has saved me many hours of work, provided several inovative ideas, and saved me several hundred dollars as well. Not to mention the inspiration of watching others dreams take to the skies. Now I hope to do a little inspiring of my own. Denny Rowe Mk-3, N616DR, 2SI 690L-70, 2.65 to 1, 68" three blade Powerfin F, Gull wing doors, and a partrige in a pear tree. Leechburg, PA > >


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    Time: 05:22:14 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: End Cap
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Wow, That is one sweet looking bird. What is the air intake on the side for? It sort of gives it a jet fighter kind of look. Kinda cool. Also gives me hope my rear fabric will stay put. Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: possums <possums@mindspring.com> Subject: Kolb-List: End Cap > --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com> > > You can still do it the "Old Fashion Way" > Mine's been on 450+ hours and still got no > cracks in the paint, or torn fabric. > > http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/covering.jpg > > http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/BRSsys.jpg > > http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Modrearframe.jpg > > http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Sideview.jpg > > Ain't it cute. > >


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    Time: 05:24:22 PM PST US
    From: SGreenpg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com In a message dated 3/9/03 3:58:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: > Steven Green, are you flying down? John and Other Kolbers, I am planning to leave Etowah Wed or 'Thur and stay for the weekend (weather permitting). Steven


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    Time: 06:15:09 PM PST US
    From: WILLIAM D BRADSHAW <PIPERJ5@shtc.net>
    Subject: Hot Box And Battery Installation on Firestar
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: WILLIAM D BRADSHAW <PIPERJ5@shtc.net> Kolb Builders & Gang I Posted some pictures to the photo share of the hot box and battery installation on my Firestar. Couldn't find any when I did mine, so hope these might help someone. Danny Bradshaw McBee, South Carolina Firestar 503, electric start, EIS


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    Time: 07:27:19 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Mk-3 trailer
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Kolbers, Its time to get serious about a trailer for my Mk-3. "ENCLOSED" I am thinking a 22' box with a wedge shaped front to allow enough length for the plane. Two rubber torsion axles and a flip down back door ramp. I want to keep it as light as possible (no car haulers) without having it blow around behind me. I'll probably be removing the wings and racking them against the side walls of the trailer, instead of folding her. Can all you guys give me an idea of how big your trailers are, and how heavy they are emty? Thanks Denny Rowe rowedl@highstream.net


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    Time: 07:40:20 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: End Cap
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > You can still do it the "Old Fashion Way" > Mine's been on 450+ hours and still got no > cracks in the paint, or torn fabric. > Ain't it cute. Possum/Gang: I agree with you whole heartedly. I put 755 hours on the old Firestar with fabric tail (end cap). The MK III was a different animal. The fabric lasted aprx'ly 100 hours. I think a lot has to do with diameter, pitch, and power. The more of each, the more drumming on the paint, dope, and fabric. And yes, by all means, the little sucker is cute as a speckled pup (with wings). john h


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    Time: 07:57:50 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Mk-3 trailer
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > I am thinking a 22' box with a wedge shaped front to allow enough length for the plane. > Denny Rowe Denny/Gents: I borrowed an enclosed trailer that was 24' long inside. That allowed a few inches for nose clearance and a few inches for tail clearance. I stacked a wing on each side, leading edge down on carpeted blocks. Strapped them snug to the walls with rachet type tie downs. Hauled Miss P'fer from Mucho Lake, BC, to Oshkosh and then home, without any damage from hauling except dust. Dust did it's job on my brand damn new lexan windshield doors and quarter windows. We pulled that trailer, tag along, for about 10,000 miles that trip. More than half of that with the airplane in the back. Was an extremely tough trip. I think the inside width of the trailer was almost 8'. Was just right for hauling the MK III. Would have been nice to have had an access door on the right forward side instead of having to raise and lower the heavy drop down tailgate type door each time we needed access to get to our baggage. Built big muscles opening and closing it at least twice a day. john h PS: More fun to fly them than to haul them. Also, never had a Hirth. Started out with 582, then 912 and finally the 912S.


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    Time: 09:22:19 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Firestar Flips
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Kolbers: Looks like our friend John T Wood's Firestar lost an engine and ended up on its back: ACFT MADE A FORCED LANDING IN A FIELD AND CAME TO REST INVERTED, SAN DIEGO, CA The Firestar is registered to Wood. Don't know if he was flying it or someone else. Anybody got the particulars on this one? Just got around to reading the FAA Preliminary Accident Briefs. Forgot about them this morning. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE




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