Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/18/03


Total Messages Posted: 27



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     1. 04:08 AM - Re: Monument Valley trip (Dave Rains)
     2. 05:28 AM - Re: Monument Valley trip (John Hauck)
     3. 06:37 AM - ramblings ()
     4. 07:24 AM - flapperons (Joe Allman)
     5. 07:54 AM - Re: flapperons (John Hauck)
     6. 07:57 AM - Re: ramblings (Larry Bourne)
     7. 08:21 AM - Re: ramblings ()
     8. 08:22 AM - Re: ramblings (jerb)
     9. 08:23 AM - Re: flapperons (Kirk Smith)
    10. 09:05 AM - Re: flapperons (Joe Allman)
    11. 09:06 AM - Re: ramblings (Christopher Armstrong)
    12. 09:44 AM - Re: ramblings (Cy Galley)
    13. 09:58 AM - Re: ramblings ()
    14. 10:14 AM - Re: ramblings ()
    15. 10:36 AM - Re: Prop shaft (Paul Petty)
    16. 10:36 AM - Re: ramblings (Peter Volum)
    17. 12:14 PM - Ramblings (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
    18. 12:38 PM - Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks (Bob Noyer)
    19. 03:33 PM - Re: Prop shaft (Eugene Zimmerman)
    20. 04:13 PM - Re: ramblings ()
    21. 04:22 PM - Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks ()
    22. 04:50 PM - Re: ramblings (Don Gherardini)
    23. 04:51 PM - Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks (John Hauck)
    24. 05:20 PM - Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks (Kirk Smith)
    25. 05:46 PM - Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks (Larry Bourne)
    26. 07:28 PM - N616DR sprouts wings ()
    27. 07:34 PM - Re: Prop shaft (Paul Petty)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:08:57 AM PST US
    From: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
    Subject: Monument Valley trip
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net> Your putting a septic system in your Kolb? I know a little age required more frequent stops, but this is a little drastic, no? Dave Rains do not archive -----Original Message----- From: John Hauck [SMTP:jhauck@elmore.rr.com] Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley trip --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Don't know which plane I'm flying, but am definitely going. > Dave Rains Dave/John/Gang: Me too. Even if I don't have my septic system working. Beginning day four of excavation and exploration. Will be fun to start working on my airplane after this crap. hehehe john h


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    Time: 05:28:46 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley trip
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Your putting a septic system in your Kolb? I know a little age required more frequent stops, but this is a little drastic, no? > Dave Rains Dave/Gang: Well..............I have an airplane with 5 hours duration and a pilot with an hour. So........I had a choice of bringing the capabilities of the airplane and the pilot more in line with each other. I could take out the 25 gal fuel tank and replace with a smaller tank, or do something to increase the range of the pilot. An on board septic tank and plumbing system was the route to take, since I liked having the 5 hour fuel capability. Only took four days to accomplish. :-) Take care, john h PS: When you reach 64 you will understand, I am sure. hehehe DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:37:46 AM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Kolbers, Looking at the new airfield last evening since the snow finally melted, it looks like the grass planted late last fall is coming alive again, real fine short blades. The winter has exposed thousands of small to medium stones that would love to find the prop of any pusher aircraft such as our Kolbs. Thought it would be wise to get as many as possible picked up before the grass thickens up. But how? Lets see, I have three kids under nine years and so does the neighbor. I told them all that I was paying $.80 per gallon bucket of stones removed from the field. In short order they had 40 gallons of stones removed at a cost to me of $6.40, they can't wait to get home from school today to earn more money. Capitalism is effective! I have a few minor details to finish up on the Mk-3 over the next couple weeks, with 1.6 hrs on the 690 I am pretty much done with the primary break-in and figure to wait till we get her to the airport to run it more. Everything looks good with the powerplant so far. Been thinking of buying a pair of the big tundra tires from Tom Olinik but the stock ones look so sleek that I figure I'll use them for a while first so I have something to compare the big boys to. I made a folded tail fixture from 1/2" cpvc pipe , 4 tees, four elbows and some pipe insulation the other day, man does that ever make it nice to move around in the garage. Still having difficulty with the FAA aircraft registration office, sent the last volley of paperwork to them a week ago Monday, hope to hear good news in the next couple of weeks. Its all I can do to be nice to them, had to write this last letter four times before I got it toned down to a civil level. Figured I don't need to make enemies with the folks who hand out airworthiness certificates. That's about it from Leechburg, Denny Rowe Mk-3 N616DR 2SI 690L-70 Gull wing doors do not archive


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    Time: 07:24:22 AM PST US
    From: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
    Subject: flapperons
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net> Anyone know the do not exceed speed for a slingshot with full flapperon extension? I'm having tons of fun playing with these things! Thanks, Joe


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    Time: 07:54:47 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: flapperons
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Anyone know the do not exceed speed for a slingshot with full flapperon > extension? > Joe Joe/Gang: I do not know what the published flap extension speed is for Sling Shot. I usually used 70 to 75 mph as max. Structurally, I do not think there is a problem. Aerodynamicly, I have not had any control problems with those max speeds. They do help you slow down quickly, and drop the nose cosiderably when you need to see where you are going. The lack of normal Kolb incidence in the wings contributes to the tail dropping excessively when airspeed is slowed down. Pulling on full flapperons will turn the nose down into somewhat level flight. john h PS: Got a call this morning, early, to come on down and fly the brand new Fire Fly at Lakeland. On again, off again, on again. Sounds like the Army doesn't it. After 23 years of civilian life I had forgotten that part of the military. :-)


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    Time: 07:57:21 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Reminds me of when I was a little shaver, and an old Norwegian carpenter paid a bunch of us kids a penny apiece to find finishing nails that he'd missed counter-sinking in a new floor. We made a bunch of pennies, and kept him scrambling to keep up. I'm just starting the paper work process, and would be very interested in what problems you're having with the FAA, and why. I'm not good at that kinda stuff anyway, and sure would like to avoid any hassles, if possible. Thanks. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <rowedl@highstream.net> Subject: Kolb-List: ramblings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> > > Kolbers, > Looking at the new airfield last evening since the snow finally melted, it looks like the grass planted late last fall is coming alive again, real fine short blades. > The winter has exposed thousands of small to medium stones that would love to find the prop of any pusher aircraft such as our Kolbs. Thought it would be wise to get as many as possible picked up before the grass thickens up. But how? > Lets see, I have three kids under nine years and so does the neighbor. I told them all that I was paying $.80 per gallon bucket of stones removed from the field. > In short order they had 40 gallons of stones removed at a cost to me of $6.40, they can't wait to get home from school today to earn more money. Capitalism is effective! > I have a few minor details to finish up on the Mk-3 over the next couple weeks, with 1.6 hrs on the 690 I am pretty much done with the primary break-in and figure to wait till we get her to the airport to run it more. Everything looks good with the powerplant so far. > Been thinking of buying a pair of the big tundra tires from Tom Olinik but the stock ones look so sleek that I figure I'll use them for a while first so I have something to compare the big boys to. > I made a folded tail fixture from 1/2" cpvc pipe , 4 tees, four elbows and some pipe insulation the other day, man does that ever make it nice to move around in the garage. > Still having difficulty with the FAA aircraft registration office, sent the last volley of paperwork to them a week ago Monday, hope to hear good news in the next couple of weeks. Its all I can do to be nice to them, had to write this last letter four times before I got it toned down to a civil level. Figured I don't need to make enemies with the folks who hand out airworthiness certificates. > That's about it from Leechburg, > Denny Rowe > Mk-3 N616DR 2SI 690L-70 Gull wing doors > do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:21:45 AM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Lar, First off my post should have read (per 5 gallon bucket, not gallon bucket). My troubles with registration stem mostly from the fact that I was not the original purchaser of the kit and did not have the original Bill of sale, nor a proper bill of sale from the original kit owner, his hand written bill of sale stated Mk-3 airplane, instead of Mk-3 kit. Things were also complicated by my having a co-owner in my plane and not having all the dots connected on paper until we applied for registration. If you have a copy of "how to licence a homebuilt aircraft" and are the original kit purchaser, you should rip through the process slicker than snot. Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ramblings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > > Reminds me of when I was a little shaver, and an old Norwegian carpenter > paid a bunch of us kids a penny apiece to find finishing nails that he'd > missed counter-sinking in a new floor. We made a bunch of pennies, and kept > him scrambling to keep up. I'm just starting the paper work > process, and would be very interested in what problems you're having with > the FAA, and why. I'm not good at that kinda stuff anyway, and sure would > like to avoid any hassles, if possible. Thanks. Lar. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Kolb Mk III - Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rowedl@highstream.net> > To: "kolblist" <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List: ramblings > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> > > > > Kolbers, > > Looking at the new airfield last evening since the snow finally melted, it > looks like the grass planted late last fall is coming alive again, real fine > short blades. > > The winter has exposed thousands of small to medium stones that would love > to find the prop of any pusher aircraft such as our Kolbs. Thought it would > be wise to get as many as possible picked up before the grass thickens up. > But how? > > Lets see, I have three kids under nine years and so does the neighbor. I > told them all that I was paying $.80 per gallon bucket of stones removed > from the field. > > In short order they had 40 gallons of stones removed at a cost to me of > $6.40, they can't wait to get home from school today to earn more money. > Capitalism is effective! > > I have a few minor details to finish up on the Mk-3 over the next > couple weeks, with 1.6 hrs on the 690 I am pretty much done with the primary > break-in and figure to wait till we get her to the airport to run it more. > Everything looks good with the powerplant so far. > > Been thinking of buying a pair of the big tundra tires from Tom Olinik but > the stock ones look so sleek that I figure I'll use them for a while first > so I have something to compare the big boys to. > > I made a folded tail fixture from 1/2" cpvc pipe , 4 tees, four elbows and > some pipe insulation the other day, man does that ever make it nice to move > around in the garage. > > Still having difficulty with the FAA aircraft registration office, sent > the last volley of paperwork to them a week ago Monday, hope to hear good > news in the next couple of weeks. Its all I can do to be nice to them, had > to write this last letter four times before I got it toned down to a civil > level. Figured I don't need to make enemies with the folks who hand out > airworthiness certificates. > > That's about it from Leechburg, > > Denny Rowe > > Mk-3 N616DR 2SI 690L-70 Gull wing doors > > do not archive > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:22:47 AM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
    Subject: Re: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net> Denny, you should hang you head in shame ripping of these poor kids. 40 gallon pails at $.80 pail comes out to $32.00 by my math, not $6.40. These poor kids need an attorney, wasn't there a lawyer on the list? jerb At 09:48 AM 3/18/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> > >Kolbers, >Looking at the new airfield last evening since the snow finally melted, it >looks like the grass planted late last fall is coming alive again, real >fine short blades. >The winter has exposed thousands of small to medium stones that would love >to find the prop of any pusher aircraft such as our Kolbs. Thought it >would be wise to get as many as possible picked up before the grass >thickens up. But how? >Lets see, I have three kids under nine years and so does the neighbor. I >told them all that I was paying $.80 per gallon bucket of stones removed >from the field. >In short order they had 40 gallons of stones removed at a cost to me of >$6.40, they can't wait to get home from school today to earn more >money. Capitalism is effective! > I have a few minor details to finish up on the Mk-3 over the next > couple weeks, with 1.6 hrs on the 690 I am pretty much done with the > primary break-in and figure to wait till we get her to the airport to run > it more. Everything looks good with the powerplant so far. >Been thinking of buying a pair of the big tundra tires from Tom Olinik but >the stock ones look so sleek that I figure I'll use them for a while first >so I have something to compare the big boys to. >I made a folded tail fixture from 1/2" cpvc pipe , 4 tees, four elbows and >some pipe insulation the other day, man does that ever make it nice to >move around in the garage. >Still having difficulty with the FAA aircraft registration office, sent >the last volley of paperwork to them a week ago Monday, hope to hear good >news in the next couple of weeks. Its all I can do to be nice to them, had >to write this last letter four times before I got it toned down to a civil >level. Figured I don't need to make enemies with the folks who hand out >airworthiness certificates. >That's about it from Leechburg, >Denny Rowe >Mk-3 N616DR 2SI 690L-70 Gull wing doors >do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:23:42 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: flapperons
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> . Sounds like the > Army doesn't it. After 23 years of civilian life > I had forgotten that part of the military. :-) If you have to stand in line for 3 days before you fly it? Yup! Do not archive


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    Time: 09:05:47 AM PST US
    From: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
    Subject: flapperons
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net> Thanks John. I've also used them when trying to cruise with slower ULs I fly with. Seems a notch or two of flaps keeps me from dragging my tail around when flying at speeds around 65 or so. Thanks again, Joe -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: flapperons --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Anyone know the do not exceed speed for a slingshot with full flapperon > extension? > Joe Joe/Gang: I do not know what the published flap extension speed is for Sling Shot. I usually used 70 to 75 mph as max. Structurally, I do not think there is a problem. Aerodynamicly, I have not had any control problems with those max speeds. They do help you slow down quickly, and drop the nose cosiderably when you need to see where you are going. The lack of normal Kolb incidence in the wings contributes to the tail dropping excessively when airspeed is slowed down. Pulling on full flapperons will turn the nose down into somewhat level flight. john h PS: Got a call this morning, early, to come on down and fly the brand new Fire Fly at Lakeland. On again, off again, on again. Sounds like the Army doesn't it. After 23 years of civilian life I had forgotten that part of the military. :-)


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    Time: 09:06:08 AM PST US
    From: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@centurytel.net>
    Subject: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@CenturyTel.net> First off my post should have read (per 5 gallon bucket, not gallon bucket). you stingy bastard!!! I though you were giving them a raw deal at 80 cents a gallon bucket. now I am going to have to come down there and start a labor movement! lets see, I will get them up to $1.60 a gallon and will only take 10 dollars in union dues. they will break even in 10/$4extra per 5 gallon bucket=2.5 buckets.


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    Time: 09:44:35 AM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Your rock picking sounds good but who paid the other $25.60???? I figure 40 x .8 as $32.00 ----- Original Message ----- From: <rowedl@highstream.net> Subject: Kolb-List: ramblings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> > > Kolbers, > Looking at the new airfield last evening since the snow finally melted, it looks like the grass planted late last fall is coming alive again, real fine short blades. > The winter has exposed thousands of small to medium stones that would love to find the prop of any pusher aircraft such as our Kolbs. Thought it would be wise to get as many as possible picked up before the grass thickens up. But how? > Lets see, I have three kids under nine years and so does the neighbor. I told them all that I was paying $.80 per gallon bucket of stones removed from the field. > In short order they had 40 gallons of stones removed at a cost to me of $6.40, they can't wait to get home from school today to earn more money. Capitalism is effective! > I have a few minor details to finish up on the Mk-3 over the next couple weeks, with 1.6 hrs on the 690 I am pretty much done with the primary break-in and figure to wait till we get her to the airport to run it more. Everything looks good with the powerplant so far. > Been thinking of buying a pair of the big tundra tires from Tom Olinik but the stock ones look so sleek that I figure I'll use them for a while first so I have something to compare the big boys to. > I made a folded tail fixture from 1/2" cpvc pipe , 4 tees, four elbows and some pipe insulation the other day, man does that ever make it nice to move around in the garage. > Still having difficulty with the FAA aircraft registration office, sent the last volley of paperwork to them a week ago Monday, hope to hear good news in the next couple of weeks. Its all I can do to be nice to them, had to write this last letter four times before I got it toned down to a civil level. Figured I don't need to make enemies with the folks who hand out airworthiness certificates. > That's about it from Leechburg, > Denny Rowe > Mk-3 N616DR 2SI 690L-70 Gull wing doors > do not archive > >


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    Time: 09:58:04 AM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Jerb, See my last reply to Lar, seems the spell check removed the 5 from the original post. That was $.80 per 5 gallon bucket. They may run me broke even at that rate, remember, I am a certified cheapskate. Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ramblings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net> > > Denny, you should hang you head in shame ripping of these poor kids. > 40 gallon pails at $.80 pail comes out to $32.00 by my math, not $6.40. > These poor kids need an attorney, wasn't there a lawyer on the list? > jerb > > > At 09:48 AM 3/18/03 -0500, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> > > > >Kolbers, > >Looking at the new airfield last evening since the snow finally melted, it > >looks like the grass planted late last fall is coming alive again, real > >fine short blades. > >The winter has exposed thousands of small to medium stones that would love > >to find the prop of any pusher aircraft such as our Kolbs. Thought it > >would be wise to get as many as possible picked up before the grass > >thickens up. But how? > >Lets see, I have three kids under nine years and so does the neighbor. I > >told them all that I was paying $.80 per gallon bucket of stones removed > >from the field. > >In short order they had 40 gallons of stones removed at a cost to me of > >$6.40, they can't wait to get home from school today to earn more > >money. Capitalism is effective! > > I have a few minor details to finish up on the Mk-3 over the next > > couple weeks, with 1.6 hrs on the 690 I am pretty much done with the > > primary break-in and figure to wait till we get her to the airport to run > > it more. Everything looks good with the powerplant so far. > >Been thinking of buying a pair of the big tundra tires from Tom Olinik but > >the stock ones look so sleek that I figure I'll use them for a while first > >so I have something to compare the big boys to. > >I made a folded tail fixture from 1/2" cpvc pipe , 4 tees, four elbows and > >some pipe insulation the other day, man does that ever make it nice to > >move around in the garage. > >Still having difficulty with the FAA aircraft registration office, sent > >the last volley of paperwork to them a week ago Monday, hope to hear good > >news in the next couple of weeks. Its all I can do to be nice to them, had > >to write this last letter four times before I got it toned down to a civil > >level. Figured I don't need to make enemies with the folks who hand out > >airworthiness certificates. > >That's about it from Leechburg, > >Denny Rowe > >Mk-3 N616DR 2SI 690L-70 Gull wing doors > >do not archive > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:14:33 AM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Armstrong <cen33475@centurytel.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ramblings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@CenturyTel.net> > > > First off my post should have read (per 5 gallon bucket, not gallon bucket). > > > you stingy bastard!!! I though you were giving them a raw deal at 80 cents > a gallon bucket. now I am going to have to come down there and start a > labor movement! lets see, I will get them up to $1.60 a gallon and will > only take 10 dollars in union dues. they will break even in 10/$4extra per > 5 gallon bucket=2.5 buckets. > > Chris, Bring it on ! These kids know who owns the swimming pool and controls who uses it. :-) Besides they want me around for the entertainment I provide when the dirt bike or airplane comes out of the garage. Denny (the crazy cheapskate capitalist) Rowe > >


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    Time: 10:36:49 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop shaft
    USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Roger that! Going to chain it to a big tree and weigh it down with a back hoe. As for full throttle, won't ever see that with the available sprockets I have the redrive is 2:1 so 4000 rpm will be max for the test.Anyone know how much thrust a 62"X34 pitch Tenn. wood prop will produce at 2000 rpm? pp.... N4958P Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Prop shaft > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> > > Paul Petty wrote: > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > > > Hi Folks, > > I'm fixing to make the hub for the Tenn.. prop and are wondering? The hole in the center of the prop is 1" and the shaft that I am using is 1". Should I let the shaft extend thru the face of the hub into the prop or stop it at the face of the hub? Or does it matter at all? > > > > Thanks > > > > pp > > With the kind of wallop the HD can produce having the shaft extent into > the prop as a prop pilot seems like a good idea to me. This is an > experiment only, right? Secure the beast to a cement truck before you go > full throttle. > > Gene > >


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    Time: 10:36:49 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
    Subject: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> Can you say "Do not archive?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rowedl@highstream.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ramblings --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Armstrong <cen33475@centurytel.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ramblings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@CenturyTel.net> > > > First off my post should have read (per 5 gallon bucket, not gallon bucket). > > > you stingy bastard!!! I though you were giving them a raw deal at 80 cents > a gallon bucket. now I am going to have to come down there and start a > labor movement! lets see, I will get them up to $1.60 a gallon and will > only take 10 dollars in union dues. they will break even in 10/$4extra per > 5 gallon bucket=2.5 buckets. > > Chris, Bring it on ! These kids know who owns the swimming pool and controls who uses it. :-) Besides they want me around for the entertainment I provide when the dirt bike or airplane comes out of the garage. Denny (the crazy cheapskate capitalist) Rowe > >


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    Time: 12:14:36 PM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> Ooooo, when I saw this post early this morning I knew it would get bloody in here. Az Dave Do Not Archive


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    Time: 12:38:21 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
    Subject: Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net> Crimeny, you got small kids carrying FIVE Gal buckets of rocks? Bob N. had five kids, never could get 'em to do much with rocks, 'cept throw them do not archive


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    Time: 03:33:15 PM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop shaft
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> Paul Petty wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > Roger that! > Going to chain it to a big tree and weigh it down with a back hoe. As for > full throttle, won't ever see that with the available sprockets I have the > redrive is 2:1 so 4000 rpm will be max for the test.Anyone know how much > thrust a 62"X34 pitch Tenn. wood prop will produce at 2000 rpm? > > pp.... > N4958P > > Do not archive > I once did a similar experiment using a 74 Harley and a 84" prop a long time ago, 1963 as I recall. Can't tell you how much thrust but I can tell you it will be a giant vacuum cleaner sucking up any debris, loose stones and dirt into the prop. Be careful. Gene


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    Time: 04:13:55 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Sorry bout that Matt and guys, got a little carried away. Forgot to Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Volum <peterv@etsmiami.com> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ramblings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com> > > Can you say "Do not archive?" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > rowedl@highstream.net > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ramblings > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christopher Armstrong <cen33475@centurytel.net> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ramblings > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" > <cen33475@CenturyTel.net> > > > > > > First off my post should have read (per 5 gallon bucket, not gallon > bucket). > > > > > > you stingy bastard!!! I though you were giving them a raw deal at 80 > cents > > a gallon bucket. now I am going to have to come down there and start > a > > labor movement! lets see, I will get them up to $1.60 a gallon and > will > > only take 10 dollars in union dues. they will break even in > 10/$4extra > per > > 5 gallon bucket=2.5 buckets. > > > > Chris, > Bring it on ! These kids know who owns the swimming pool and controls > who > uses it. :-) > Besides they want me around for the entertainment I provide when the > dirt > bike or airplane comes out of the garage. > > Denny (the crazy cheapskate capitalist) Rowe > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:22:23 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ramblings aka box o' rocks > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net> > > Crimeny, you got small kids carrying FIVE Gal buckets of rocks? > > Bob N. had five kids, never could get 'em to do much with rocks, 'cept > throw them > Bob, I am emptying the buckets for the kids, but they are dragging them around pretty well until they are near full, and the little guy Josh and his neighbor buddy are using a wagon to carry theirs around. If you think I am doing good, you would not beleive the work my dad used to get out of my siblings and I. I would be in jail for doing the same today, and thats a fact. :-( Denny do not archive Rowe > do not archive > >


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    Time: 04:50:40 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: ramblings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Jeez Denny....snow melted off around here also,and now all the rocks in the front yard on both sides of the lane are showing...from running the snowblower on the tractor so often this winter in all the snow..I could sure use those Kids.....maybe ill hire em away from ya! I would pay a lot more than that! started covering the firefly this weekend since it warmed up and shot some paint on the cage! MAn..good to get going again on that project after no progress for 2 months due to cold! do not archive!!! http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Don Gherardini- FireFly 098


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    Time: 04:51:03 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > I would be in jail for doing the same today, and thats a > fact. :-( > Denny do not archive Rowe Denny/Gang: You got that right. Pick a switch out of the hedge and put it on a kids legs, the EPA, FBI, CIA, SPCA, Civil Liberty Union and the rest of the liberals will be after you for child abuse. My Mom taught me all I need to know about the switch bush. :-( john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 05:20:23 PM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> Well I took the the tractor out on the weedway today and smushed my rocks into the fresh mud with the roller. Didn't hurt a bit either. Actually I rather enjoyed it. Gave the dog a good workout chasing the tractor up and down the runway also. One of these days the Kolb will be running up and down it. Speaking of liberal abuse chasers, you forgot to mention divorce lawyers John. I'll get a switching for that one......;o) Do not archive


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    Time: 05:46:48 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: ramblings aka box o' rocks
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Most of the local ones here keep all the rocks in their heads. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Noyer" <ronoy@shentel.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ramblings aka box o' rocks > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net> > > Crimeny, you got small kids carrying FIVE Gal buckets of rocks? > > Bob N. had five kids, never could get 'em to do much with rocks, 'cept > throw them > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 07:28:26 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: N616DR sprouts wings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Linda and I mounted the wings this evening, she wanted em off her porch. :-) This was the first time they have been installed since covering. No problems, but man you have to be careful you don't bind things up at the universal joints. Almost pinched the fingers there also. It looks good with the feathers spread. We went ahead and folded it to put it in the garage, but that totally made up my mind about removing the wings to trailer. They are definitely coming off and going on some sort of rack. That thing is a ton to move around folded and there is a hundred ways to ding things up while you do it, I managed to do a couple of them. Also was as hard as I expected to install the second retainer pin in the wing fold holder thingy, I am using the wavy quick pins like you use on tractors and had to stick my head under the wing to see what I was doing. Denny do not archive


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    Time: 07:34:01 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop shaft
    USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Gene, That's very interesting! 74' hmmm.. that would have been a shovel right? How did it work out? What redrive did you use? Did the shovels have a compensating sprocket on the crankshaft? Did you go direct? Would love to know!! thanks pp.... N4958P Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Prop shaft > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> > > Paul Petty wrote: > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > > > Roger that! > > Going to chain it to a big tree and weigh it down with a back hoe. As for > > full throttle, won't ever see that with the available sprockets I have the > > redrive is 2:1 so 4000 rpm will be max for the test.Anyone know how much > > thrust a 62"X34 pitch Tenn. wood prop will produce at 2000 rpm? > > > > pp.... > > N4958P > > > > Do not archive > > > I once did a similar experiment using a 74 Harley and a 84" prop a long > time ago, 1963 as I recall. > Can't tell you how much thrust but I can tell you it will be a giant > vacuum cleaner sucking up any debris, loose stones and dirt into the > prop. Be careful. > > Gene > >




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