Kolb-List Digest Archive

Thu 03/20/03


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 03:46 AM - Re: Rim warning (Dave Rains)
     2. 06:30 AM - kalifornia kolb (Bob Bean)
     3. 07:04 AM - Re: kalifornia kolb (John Hauck)
     4. 07:33 AM - Re: kalifornia kolb (Larry Bourne)
     5. 07:37 AM - Re: kalifornia kolb (CaptainRon)
     6. 02:11 PM - Motel for Sun 'n Fun (H MITCHELL)
     7. 06:23 PM - 447 lighting coil/ Key West regulator (H MITCHELL)
     8. 06:57 PM - Re: 447 lighting coil/ Key West regulator (Bob Bean)
     9. 07:54 PM - Re: Burned my fingers (Richard Pike)
    10. 08:19 PM - Key West Regulator (John Hauck)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:46:07 AM PST US
    From: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
    Subject: Rim warning
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net> Thanks for the heads up. I'll pull mine this weekend and inspect. Dave Rains do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Casey [SMTP:jrcasey@ldl.net] Subject: Kolb-List: Rim warning --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <jrcasey@ldl.net> As some of you know I bought a RANS S7 back last November. This plane had MATCO MH6B rims that are manufactured by a "stamping" process. I was told that there were some newer rims available that were heavier and that are made by a CNC lathe process. There had been 2 RANS pilots in the area that had had cracks in the older "stamped" rims (1 of which came apart on landing...) I decided to put the new rims on my plane as a just in case thing and to upgrade the brakes to the single caliper/dual piston models for more stopping power. Anyway when I pulled the old rims off 1 was cracked in 2 places and the other side was cracked in 1!!! All the cracks where on the inside half of the rim where it is hidden by the brake rotor. The rim with the worse cracks would have been visible if it was taken off the axle (since you would have to remove the rotor to do that) but the other one that was just starting to crack WOULD NOT have been visible without splitting the rim halves apart. All 3 cracks where at the ends of the "arms" of the hubs. I assume there is some kind of stress riser there causing it. I am NOT trying to bad mouth MATCO!! They make a great product for the EXPERIMENTAL market at a great price. (IF they charged certified prices they could afford to send replacement rims to everyone...but they didn't ;-) ) All that to say this...Pull those wheels off and look at them. If you really want peace of mind, split them apart and inspect the inside...or just sleep better at night and order the newer CNC machined rims. Mine were the MH6B rims...the older stamped kind. Only took about 2 hours to swap them out. See picture here... http://kilocharlieaero.homestead.com/files/crack.jpg Jeremy Casey BCD Drafting, Inc. jrcasey@ldl.net P.S. The S7 is probably 50-70 pounds heavier than a 912 Mark 3 which might aggravate the issue but I wanted to pass this on to the Kolb-list cause I know these rims are options on the Mark 3's and Slingshots...


    Message 2


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    Time: 06:30:05 AM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: kalifornia kolb
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> G'day all, is this a lister? -BB do not archive http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0320_N.txt ******************************************************************************** ** Report created 3/20/2003 Record 1 ** ******************************************************************************** IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 7935G Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK EXP Date: 03/19/2003 Time: 1735 Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Unknown LOCATION City: CAMARILLO State: CA Country: US DESCRIPTION ACFT MADE A FORCED LANDING IN A FIELD DUE TO ENGINE FAILURE, CAMARILLO, CA INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Y # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Y # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: CMA METAR 191700Z 30004KT 10SM SKC 17/A3005 OTHER DATA Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: General Aviation Departed: CAMARILLO, CA Dep Date: 03/19/2003 Dep. Time: Destination: CAMARILLO, CA Flt Plan: UNK Wx Briefing: U Last Radio Cont: UNK Last Clearance: UNK FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 03/20/2003


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    Time: 07:04:14 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: kalifornia kolb
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > G'day all, is this a lister? -BB do not archive Name FULLER LAWRENCE W Street 7925 DUSTY LN City SOMIS State CALIFORNIA Zip Code 93066-7901 County VENTURA Country UNITED STATES Morning Bob/Guys: I don't know him. It is a 1997 Mark III. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:33:49 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: kalifornia kolb
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Yah, that's Larry Fuller's plane. He lives in Camarillo, CA, and lurked on the List several years ago. It's powered with a direct drive VW. I'll see if his email is still the same................haven't talked to him in 3 or 4 years. He keeps pretty busy, so I was never able to connect with him when I visited Erich Weaver. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net> Subject: Kolb-List: kalifornia kolb > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> > > G'day all, is this a lister? -BB do not archive > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0320_N.txt > > **************************************************************************** **** > ** Report created 3/20/2003 Record 1 ** > **************************************************************************** **** > > IDENTIFICATION > Regis#: 7935G Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK EXP > Date: 03/19/2003 Time: 1735 > > Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N > Damage: Unknown


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    Time: 07:37:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: kalifornia kolb
    From: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com> 3/20/03 7:33Bob Bean > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> > > G'day all, is this a lister? -BB do not archive > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0320_N.txt ======================= Mmm good quetion, I have some recollection that there is someone from Camarillo on the list. Sure would like to find out what kinda motor is in that contraption, and what fuel oil ratio was used. No injuries to persons or aircraft as far as can tell, good! Well whatever bad weather we had for the last couple of weeks seems to have moved out, clear blue skies today, can't waite to go and resume serious work on the M3X. Someone mentioned that they have a Simonini motor in their bird, can that lister tell me what type motor he has? and how is the support from the Kanaks, if he has any experience in needing support. do not archive


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    Time: 02:11:09 PM PST US
    From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
    "kolblist" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Motel for Sun 'n Fun
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com> For any Kolbers still looking for a place to stay for the Sun 'N Fun, You may want to try the Brandon Motor Lodge ((813) 689-1261). Gene Ledbetter and I are driving from Tallahassee on Wednesday April 2nd and will be staying there three nights. We spotted this place last year and made our reservations early but I checked with they earlier this week and they still had openings. Although it is no threat to the Hiltons it is only a short drive on a relatively uncrowded highway from the main gate and the price is right. Hope to see you there! Duane the plane, Tallahassee FL, FireFly and Mk3 do not archive


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    Time: 06:23:06 PM PST US
    From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
    Subject: 447 lighting coil/ Key West regulator
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com> I have noticed that the connector that joins the black/yellow wire coming from my 447's lighting coils to the wire going to my Key West regulator is discolored as if it has been very hot and the adjacent insulation appears to be melting. The last time I shut the engine down I hurried back to the engine and burned the (bleep) out of my fingers when I touched this connector. When I disconnected all of the wires from the regulator's output the heating continued after a short engine run. When I disconnected the wire going to the regulator's input the heating stopped. I did not get a chance to test but I suspect that one of the diodes in the Key West regulator's rectifier is burned up. This would allow the output from the lighting coil to go directly to ground. Has anyone else had this problem ? Thanks in advance, Duane the plane


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    Time: 06:57:38 PM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: 447 lighting coil/ Key West regulator
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> could be just high resistance due to corrosion at the connector. If it's not too bad /corroded, pitted, rusted, clean it or replace it and coat the connection surfaces with electrical conductivity paste. A meter bridged at the connection will tell the voltage drop under load. Nowadays electricians use those fancy infrared detectors on panel boxes and load centers.BB do not archive H MITCHELL wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com> > > >I have noticed that the connector that joins the black/yellow wire coming from my 447's lighting coils to the wire going to my Key West regulator is discolored as if it has been very hot and the adjacent insulation appears to be melting. The last time I shut the engine down I hurried back to the engine and burned the (bleep) out of my fingers when I touched this connector. When I disconnected all of the wires from the regulator's output the heating continued after a short engine run. When I disconnected the wire going to the regulator's input the heating stopped. I did not get a chance to test but I suspect that one of the diodes in the Key West regulator's rectifier is burned up. This would allow the output from the lighting coil to go directly to ground. > >Has anyone else had this problem ? > >Thanks in advance, > >Duane the plane > > > >


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    Time: 07:54:23 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Burned my fingers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> At 09:22 PM 3/20/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com> > > >I have noticed that the connector that joins the black/yellow wire coming >from my 447's lighting coils to the wire going to my Key West regulator is >discolored as if it has been very hot and the adjacent insulation appears >to be melting. The last time I shut the engine down I hurried back to the >engine and burned the (bleep) out of my fingers when I touched this >connector. <snip> > >Has anyone else had this problem ? > >Thanks in advance, > >Duane the plane No, none of us have burned our fingers at all. We learned years ago not to touch a wire whose insulation appears to be melting. Sorry Duane, couldn't resist. I have used a Key West regulator for about two years and it is working OK so far. It is charging a motorcycle battery. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) (Hope your fingers feel better soon) Do Not Archive Help Stop Spam! Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life. Thanks! And have a blessed day. rp


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    Time: 08:19:33 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Key West Regulator
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Folks: Tried two Key West reg/rec's (not at the same time) in a pinch on a 912 during a flight to and from Oshkosh. The 912 electrical system ate them up post hast. Also tried the heavier more expensive Timpanian reg/rec on the 912. Even made the first flight to Alaska with it. Accidentally burned up the one that came with the engine. It worked for several hundred hours and finally went belly up. When I replaced it with an original 912 model, was astonished to find that the electrical system provided more power than the incorrect part. Sometimes we have to do what we have to do in a pinch. john h




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