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1. 03:46 AM - Re: Rim warning (Dave Rains)
2. 06:30 AM - kalifornia kolb (Bob Bean)
3. 07:04 AM - Re: kalifornia kolb (John Hauck)
4. 07:33 AM - Re: kalifornia kolb (Larry Bourne)
5. 07:37 AM - Re: kalifornia kolb (CaptainRon)
6. 02:11 PM - Motel for Sun 'n Fun (H MITCHELL)
7. 06:23 PM - 447 lighting coil/ Key West regulator (H MITCHELL)
8. 06:57 PM - Re: 447 lighting coil/ Key West regulator (Bob Bean)
9. 07:54 PM - Re: Burned my fingers (Richard Pike)
10. 08:19 PM - Key West Regulator (John Hauck)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
Thanks for the heads up. I'll pull mine this weekend and inspect.
Dave Rains
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From: Jeremy Casey [SMTP:jrcasey@ldl.net]
Subject: Kolb-List: Rim warning
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <jrcasey@ldl.net>
As some of you know I bought a RANS S7 back last November. This plane
had MATCO MH6B rims that are manufactured by a "stamping" process. I
was told that there were some newer rims available that were heavier and
that are made by a CNC lathe process. There had been 2 RANS pilots in
the area that had had cracks in the older "stamped" rims (1 of which
came apart on landing...) I decided to put the new rims on my plane as
a just in case thing and to upgrade the brakes to the single
caliper/dual piston models for more stopping power. Anyway when I
pulled the old rims off 1 was cracked in 2 places and the other side was
cracked in 1!!! All the cracks where on the inside half of the rim
where it is hidden by the brake rotor. The rim with the worse cracks
would have been visible if it was taken off the axle (since you would
have to remove the rotor to do that) but the other one that was just
starting to crack WOULD NOT have been visible without splitting the rim
halves apart. All 3 cracks where at the ends of the "arms" of the hubs.
I assume there is some kind of stress riser there causing it. I am NOT
trying to bad mouth MATCO!! They make a great product for the
EXPERIMENTAL market at a great price. (IF they charged certified prices
they could afford to send replacement rims to everyone...but they didn't
;-) )
All that to say this...Pull those wheels off and look at them. If you
really want peace of mind, split them apart and inspect the inside...or
just sleep better at night and order the newer CNC machined rims. Mine
were the MH6B rims...the older stamped kind. Only took about 2 hours to
swap them out.
See picture here...
http://kilocharlieaero.homestead.com/files/crack.jpg
Jeremy Casey
BCD Drafting, Inc.
jrcasey@ldl.net
P.S. The S7 is probably 50-70 pounds heavier than a 912 Mark 3 which
might aggravate the issue but I wanted to pass this on to the Kolb-list
cause I know these rims are options on the Mark 3's and Slingshots...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
G'day all, is this a lister? -BB do not archive
http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0320_N.txt
********************************************************************************
** Report created 3/20/2003 Record 1 **
********************************************************************************
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 7935G Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK EXP
Date: 03/19/2003 Time: 1735
Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: CAMARILLO State: CA Country: US
DESCRIPTION
ACFT MADE A FORCED LANDING IN A FIELD DUE TO ENGINE FAILURE, CAMARILLO, CA
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
Y
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
Y
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: CMA METAR 191700Z 30004KT 10SM SKC 17/A3005
OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: General Aviation
Departed: CAMARILLO, CA Dep Date: 03/19/2003 Dep. Time:
Destination: CAMARILLO, CA Flt Plan: UNK Wx Briefing: U
Last Radio Cont: UNK
Last Clearance: UNK
FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 03/20/2003
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Subject: | Re: kalifornia kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> G'day all, is this a lister? -BB do not archive
Name FULLER LAWRENCE W
Street 7925 DUSTY LN
City SOMIS State CALIFORNIA Zip Code
93066-7901
County VENTURA
Country UNITED STATES
Morning Bob/Guys:
I don't know him.
It is a 1997 Mark III.
john h
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Subject: | Re: kalifornia kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, that's Larry Fuller's plane. He lives in Camarillo, CA, and lurked on
the List several years ago. It's powered with a direct drive VW. I'll see
if his email is still the same................haven't talked to him in 3 or
4 years. He keeps pretty busy, so I was never able to connect with him when
I visited Erich Weaver. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: kalifornia kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
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> G'day all, is this a lister? -BB do not archive
> http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0320_N.txt
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> ** Report created 3/20/2003 Record 1
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> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 7935G Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK EXP
> Date: 03/19/2003 Time: 1735
>
> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Unknown
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Subject: | Re: kalifornia kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <CaptainRon@theriver.com>
3/20/03 7:33Bob Bean
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
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> G'day all, is this a lister? -BB do not archive
> http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0320_N.txt
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Mmm good quetion, I have some recollection that there is someone from
Camarillo on the list. Sure would like to find out what kinda motor is in
that contraption, and what fuel oil ratio was used. No injuries to persons
or aircraft as far as can tell, good!
Well whatever bad weather we had for the last couple of weeks seems to have
moved out, clear blue skies today, can't waite to go and resume serious work
on the M3X.
Someone mentioned that they have a Simonini motor in their bird, can that
lister tell me what type motor he has? and how is the support from the
Kanaks, if he has any experience in needing support.
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Subject: | Motel for Sun 'n Fun |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
For any Kolbers still looking for a place to stay for the Sun 'N Fun,
You may want to try the Brandon Motor Lodge ((813) 689-1261). Gene Ledbetter and
I are driving from Tallahassee on Wednesday April 2nd and will be staying there
three nights. We spotted this place last year and made our reservations early
but I checked with they earlier this week and they still had openings. Although
it is no threat to the Hiltons it is only a short drive on a relatively
uncrowded highway from the main gate and the price is right.
Hope to see you there!
Duane the plane, Tallahassee FL, FireFly and Mk3
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Subject: | 447 lighting coil/ Key West regulator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
I have noticed that the connector that joins the black/yellow wire coming from
my 447's lighting coils to the wire going to my Key West regulator is discolored
as if it has been very hot and the adjacent insulation appears to be melting.
The last time I shut the engine down I hurried back to the engine and burned
the (bleep) out of my fingers when I touched this connector. When I disconnected
all of the wires from the regulator's output the heating continued after
a short engine run. When I disconnected the wire going to the regulator's input
the heating stopped. I did not get a chance to test but I suspect that one
of the diodes in the Key West regulator's rectifier is burned up. This would allow
the output from the lighting coil to go directly to ground.
Has anyone else had this problem ?
Thanks in advance,
Duane the plane
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Subject: | Re: 447 lighting coil/ Key West regulator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
could be just high resistance due to corrosion at the connector.
If it's not too bad /corroded, pitted, rusted, clean it or replace
it and coat the connection surfaces with electrical conductivity
paste. A meter bridged at the connection will tell the voltage
drop under load. Nowadays electricians use those fancy infrared
detectors on panel boxes and load centers.BB do not archive
H MITCHELL wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
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>I have noticed that the connector that joins the black/yellow wire coming from
my 447's lighting coils to the wire going to my Key West regulator is discolored
as if it has been very hot and the adjacent insulation appears to be melting.
The last time I shut the engine down I hurried back to the engine and burned
the (bleep) out of my fingers when I touched this connector. When I disconnected
all of the wires from the regulator's output the heating continued after
a short engine run. When I disconnected the wire going to the regulator's input
the heating stopped. I did not get a chance to test but I suspect that one
of the diodes in the Key West regulator's rectifier is burned up. This would
allow the output from the lighting coil to go directly to ground.
>
>Has anyone else had this problem ?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Duane the plane
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Subject: | Re: Burned my fingers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
At 09:22 PM 3/20/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
>
>I have noticed that the connector that joins the black/yellow wire coming
>from my 447's lighting coils to the wire going to my Key West regulator is
>discolored as if it has been very hot and the adjacent insulation appears
>to be melting. The last time I shut the engine down I hurried back to the
>engine and burned the (bleep) out of my fingers when I touched this
>connector. <snip>
>
>Has anyone else had this problem ?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Duane the plane
No, none of us have burned our fingers at all.
We learned years ago not to touch a wire whose insulation appears to be
melting.
Sorry Duane, couldn't resist. I have used a Key West regulator for about
two years and it is working OK so far. It is charging a motorcycle battery.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
(Hope your fingers feel better soon)
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Subject: | Key West Regulator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Folks:
Tried two Key West reg/rec's (not at the same
time) in a pinch on a 912 during a flight to and
from Oshkosh. The 912 electrical system ate them
up post hast. Also tried the heavier more
expensive Timpanian reg/rec on the 912. Even made
the first flight to Alaska with it. Accidentally
burned up the one that came with the engine. It
worked for several hundred hours and finally went
belly up. When I replaced it with an original 912
model, was astonished to find that the electrical
system provided more power than the incorrect
part. Sometimes we have to do what we have to do
in a pinch.
john h
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