---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/28/03: 43 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:15 AM - Re: entry longeron trim? () 2. 04:10 AM - Lexan Gap Seal & Softpack BRS (Alderson, James) 3. 04:32 AM - Kohler engine for Firefly (Ed Steuber) 4. 04:58 AM - Re: Senior Kolb pilots (Dave Rains) 5. 05:04 AM - EVO/AIR update (Paul Petty) 6. 05:16 AM - paint protector? (Jim Gerken) 7. 05:35 AM - Re: entry longeron trim? (Bill Futrell) 8. 05:41 AM - Re: Senior Kolb pilots (Jack & Louise Hart) 9. 05:59 AM - Re: Senior Kolb pilots - glasses (James, Ken) 10. 06:44 AM - Re: entry longeron trim? (John Hauck) 11. 06:48 AM - Re: Senior Kolb pilots (Richard Pike) 12. 06:51 AM - Re: Honda engine (Don Gherardini) 13. 07:00 AM - Re: Senior Kolb pilots (Timandjan@aol.com) 14. 07:09 AM - Re: entry longeron trim? (FRED2319@aol.com) 15. 07:22 AM - Re: Senior Kolb pilots - glasses (Vincehallam@aol.com) 16. 07:42 AM - Re: entry longeron trim? (J.D. Stewart) 17. 08:52 AM - Re: EVO/AIR update (Eugene Zimmerman) 18. 10:15 AM - kite flying (Bob Bean) 19. 10:46 AM - Re: EVO/AIR update (Paul Petty) 20. 11:37 AM - Re: Senior Kolb pilots (Bob Noyer) 21. 12:54 PM - Re: entry longeron trim? (jerb) 22. 12:54 PM - Senior Kolb pilots (Jim) 23. 01:27 PM - Re: kite flying (Jim Ballenger) 24. 03:14 PM - Senior Kolb Pilots (Bill Vincent) 25. 03:19 PM - Re: paint protector? (G. T. Alexander, Jr.) 26. 04:08 PM - Re: paint protector? (G. T. Alexander, Jr.) 27. 04:50 PM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (Fackler, Ken) 28. 05:08 PM - Re: paint protector? (Larry Bourne) 29. 05:12 PM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots () 30. 05:24 PM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (John Hauck) 31. 05:27 PM - Thanks everyone () 32. 05:28 PM - Re: Mk-3 ride () 33. 05:33 PM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (possums) 34. 05:35 PM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (Larry Bourne) 35. 05:37 PM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (Larry Bourne) 36. 05:48 PM - floor boards (al bumhoffer) 37. 06:10 PM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (Dave & Eve Pelletier) 38. 06:13 PM - EVO/AIR (Paul Petty) 39. 06:25 PM - Re: paint protector? (jerb) 40. 06:35 PM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (Bob Noyer) 41. 07:05 PM - Re: Senior Kolb pilots (Go5for4@aol.com) 42. 07:05 PM - Re: entry longeron trim? (Go5for4@aol.com) 43. 08:03 PM - Re: entry longeron trim? (J.D. Stewart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:15:15 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? --> Kolb-List message posted by: ----- Original Message ----- From: Guy Swenson Subject: Re: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Swenson" > > Denny/Listers > I split an aluminum tube that has the same ID as the longerons OD, riveted > in place with three rivets. Ray at TNK gave me the idea. I could send > pictures if you would like. Very neet and durable. > Guy S. > > > > I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the > "fabric/paint" on the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb in and out > of the Mk-3 cockpit. > > Guy, I would love to see a photo, and description of what you used to split the tube. Denny do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:20 AM PST US From: "Alderson, James" Subject: Kolb-List: Lexan Gap Seal & Softpack BRS --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" Is there a way to put a lexan gap seal in while still having the softpack brs in place? The ripstop material that comes with the Kolb (that is my understanding anyway) is fine, but when I saw Danny's gap seal with the aluminum leading edge and nice skylight looking feature of it, I thought I couldn't do it on mine. Any thoughts? James Alderson Kolb FSII 503 EIS BRS 34 Hours Charlotte NC ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:55 AM PST US From: "Ed Steuber" Subject: Kolb-List: Kohler engine for Firefly --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Steuber" The Firefly Kohler engine combination looks interesting but forget Ultralight status......N numbers and pilot license for sure.... Ed in Western NY ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:55 AM PST US From: Dave Rains Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains Bill, you should get used to the bifocals fairly quick. I've worn them for years, and my biggest problem is my instrument panel is between focal ranges, very annoying. I put some of the old Curb Feelers on my landing gear so I know when I'm real close (just kidding, but it would make a good conversation starter at a fly-in) do not archive Dave Rains -----Original Message----- From: Bill Vincent [SMTP:emailbill@chartermi.net] Subject: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent This is a question for "Senior" Kolb pilots: I just got my bifocals and I can hardly walk down the stairs! I will be flying again soon, should I try landing with the bifocals on or will they cause problems? Bill Vincent Firestar II Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:29 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR update SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Hello Kolbers, Two word's.... Totally Awesome!!!!! Tweaked on the HD last night and made two 20 minute runs. Made some new headers for it and that helped allot. Starter is working finally. Ran it @ 4000 rpm for 5 minutes no problems. Here is the big question. It seems that the prop has no real effect on the engine other than it appears to smooth this out in terms of vibration. I can full throttle it but only for a second, because the prop is not enough load for the beast! What do I need to do next? A prop with a bigger bite? I talked to Charley last night on the phone about it and he is thinking a Mcally metal prop like the one on the 150. Wish I had more time off work so I could drag this thing to SnF. Anyway all the camera's are in the motor home at Lakeland or I would have another video for everyone. One interesting note, at 4200 rpm it will start to drag or move if you will,the Polaris 4 wheeler,trailer. I'm guessing the total weight of the 4 wheeler/trailer/engine and stand to be around 1200 lbs. Just a wild guess. My engineer buddy lives a mile away from me and he called and said he could hear the run up's from his place. Guess were going to have to make some mufflers hehe... Fun times here with the engine folks. pp.... N4958P Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:51 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: paint protector? From: "Jim Gerken" 03/28/2003 07:15:57 AM --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" >Time: 05:15:37 PM PST US >From: >Subject: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? >--> Kolb-List message posted by: >Kolbers, >I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the "fabric/paint" on >the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb in and out of the Mk-3 cockpit. >Thinking about using a split hose with the correct inside diameter to fit over >the tubes. Whatever I use needs to be 1/16" to 1/8" thick as it will also serve >as a strike plate for my front door latches. Thought that the ribbed plastic >split wire loom would work, but the plastic I am sure would tear up the fabric. >Any suggestions would be appreciated. >Denny This is another place you can use 3M book binding tape (#345?) . The same stuff some guys use as aileron gap seals, elevator gap seals, rudder gap seals, horizontal stab to fuse tube seals, cabin hinges seals, etc. Works for me. The stuff is tough and clear, lasts years, then easily and quickly removed with PPG degreaser without damage to Stits Poly. Cheap too. Check archives for more info if you cant find it at local office supply store. Jim Gerken ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:09 AM PST US From: "Bill Futrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Futrell" Denny I took a piece of aluminum tube and split it with a bandsaw,dress the edges and it will slip down over the tube. I use two aluminum pop rivets per side to hold it in. I think the size of the tube was a 1/2 inch. Bill Futrell Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: > > Kolbers, > I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the "fabric/paint" on the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb in and out of the Mk-3 cockpit. > Thinking about using a split hose with the correct inside diameter to fit over the tubes. Whatever I use needs to be 1/16" to 1/8" thick as it will also serve as a strike plate for my front door latches. Thought that the ribbed plastic split wire loom would work, but the plastic I am sure would tear up the fabric. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Denny > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:57 AM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart At 07:38 PM 3/27/03 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent > >This is a question for "Senior" Kolb pilots: > >I just got my bifocals and I can hardly walk down the stairs! > >I will be flying again soon, should I try landing with the bifocals on >or will they cause problems? > >Bill Vincent >Firestar II >Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan > >Do Not Archive > Bill, I am near sighted and I have been flying with progressive bifocals. The problem with them is that they are narrow at the top and get wider as the bifocal progresses downward on the lenses. A progressive bifocal works well because you learn to move your head to clear your vision as you read down the page. But when you wear them flying, you must excessively lower your head to be able to see over the top of the bifocal for clear vision of the ground. In my case one does not have clear lower peripheral vision due to the progressive bifocal.s Since I fly with goggles, I bought a set of small lens "granny" glasses with the smallest spot bifocal. The bifocal was ground to match the distance from the instrument panel. Also, I asked that the glasses be ground to enable better than 20/20 vision for distance, and I had them orange tinted to increase contrast against the blue sky. They are very light and they give very good side peripheral downward vision without having to drop ones head to see the ground. The bifocal is portioned so that I can see the instrument panel while looking forward over the nose and dropping my eyes. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:02 AM PST US From: "James, Ken" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots - glasses --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" My second DAD and I flew Hang gliders which you mostly fly from the prone position then on final you transition to a more up right position. Anyway dad got Bi focals and the next day the wind was right so off we went. I landed first and was folding up when dad came in and was set up on final he slipped out of his pod lowered the gear ( put his feet down ) and set up for final I remember thinking that he was a little high as he flew pass me at about 10' of the deck I watched in amazement as he push a hard flair with at least 5' over deck now if you have ever jumped from 5' you can hit pretty hard especially having 60+ pounds of glider with you. Now dad was a cranky fart who if he screwed up anything it was back to the hill to do it again. Even though it was getting late we set up again for a sled ride to the L.Z. I again beat him down to watch his landing and Dam if he didn't flair exactly five feet of the deck again. Bruised both in ego and body we drove over to the training hill the next day to do some landing practice. After blowing three landing in a row he figured out it was the fact that he was changing his head position which meant he was looking through the bottom part of his glasses and was throwing his landing perspective off. So the new glass's came off the old glasses(he never gets rid of anything)came back for flying ( he never used a instruments pod anyway) so he didn't need them to read in the air. don't know if this will be a problem in a fixed seat position but I know when cranking in flaps in a piper arrow your sight line changes alot! The same a swing for prone to also most standing. Ken -----Original Message----- From: John Hauck [mailto:jhauck@elmore.rr.com] Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > I will be flying again soon, should I try landing with the bifocals on > or will they cause problems? > > Bill Vincent Bill/Gang: I am not nearly as senior as the Grey Baron, but I have been wearing bifocals for many years. Personally, I had trouble walking and driving the tractor when I first got my bifocals. I would wait until I became comfortable with them before I tried flying solo. My distant vision remained good enough to fly without glasses for many years. Back in the Firestar days, would get caught in rain on cross countries. Only way to see would be take off the glasses when they got wet. john h ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:17 AM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > I would love to see a photo, and description of what you used to split the > tube. > Denny Denny/Gang: Bandsaw. john h ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:23 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike >At 07:38 PM 3/27/03 -0600, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent > > > >This is a question for "Senior" Kolb pilots: > > > >I just got my bifocals and I can hardly walk down the stairs! > > > >I will be flying again soon, should I try landing with the bifocals on > >or will they cause problems? > > > >Bill Vincent > >Firestar II > >Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan > > > >Do Not Archive > > Bill, you have probably already read Lar's comments about progressives, and Jack Hart's about bifocals with a dedicated bifocal for the panel, here's my .02$ worth. Tried progressives while I was still at work for the FAA, but the peripheral vision was a bit less. Progressives tend to be a bit hourglass shaped in their sweet spot of being in focus, and I was having trouble quickly locating aircraft at the edge of my sight picture. Had to have my nose pointed at them before they got in focus. Not Good. I am using lined bifocals with the near area smaller than normal, like a flat topped half circle directly in front of the eye. When you need to see the panel, or the dashboard instruments in the car, or a book, you have your nose pointed at it anyway, so no big deal. Probably similar to what Jack is using. Also, if you need to look down and to the side, the area next to the half circle is the distant focal part, so that works. And, since the brain is seeing peripherally normal down and to the side, stairs, slopes and stuff like that is not a problem, likewise being on short final and judging the flare, because that is still being seen through the distance part through each lower side. I had a little static from the optometrist, since what I wanted was not the current style, but once I explained why I wanted what I wanted, (maximum distant peripheral vision to the side, and to the side and down) then I got good results. Hope this doesn't muddy the water too much. If it would be any help, I could send you a .jpg of how the lenses are ground, but you have probably already figured it out. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:23 AM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Honda engine --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" Jerry, the weight....well that honda engine including electric starter and minus the muffler in 90 lbs....so it is heavier than a 460 or a 447.... It also has a heavy flywheel that might not be necessary if swinging a prop...or replaced with a lighter one anway....flywheel weighs 22 lbs I believe. The exhaust system that Honda provides is VERY heavy...and I believe would be un-necessary as it is VERY quite, and a V-twin with a 2 into 1 header changes to sound into sort of a "harley" tune anyway, and can be fabricated pretty easy. As far as a re-drive weight...I have no idea, I have never seen a redrive installed up close. I am aware of that german fella several years ago who was promoting his version..and I have talked to Mark B extensively about it. It was based around now discontinued low torque version of the Honda, and did not work very well according to Mark on a thundergull. but it did fly it. Don ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:00:46 AM PST US From: Timandjan@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com My brother in law is a heavy machine mechanic, always working in the huge cat motors, he has his bifocals on the top of his lenses bacause he is always looking up. Looks weird but works great for him. DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:38 AM PST US From: FRED2319@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? --> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com On the entry trim. I used a 2 in. wide white glider tape. from my glider. Looks good will wear good and easy to replace. you can get some from any of the sailplane folks. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:11 AM PST US From: Vincehallam@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots - glasses --> Kolb-List message posted by: Vincehallam@aol.com Hi Ive been using tri focals for uears but they are a pain ,,,,just went in todasy for a big session with optician to sort things out ,,there are so ,many different types and NONE cover all requirements .....I hang glide too and usually use plain distance glasses to avoid blind spots ..If you use analogue instruments you can still get a good idea of where the needles point even if they are blurry Ive come across several instances of incidents and accidents in the business where varifocals were to blame for distortion and out of focus areas High tension electric cables and fences] but this can happen with bis and tris too .. With the elliptical bis you can get a little area of useful distance view out of the bottom corner of your eye for the cockpit floor or for landing peripheral vision However just today weve agreed to try ordering a pair of those executives with a horizontal join about 2/5 the way from the bottom of the lens Also i recommen the thinnest frames possible and the largest lenses but if your distance vision is passable the big lenses dont martter so much [BTW I have long sight not short sight] Vnz ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:35 AM PST US From: "J.D. Stewart" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" Go to Wal Mart and buy a plastic shower curtain rod cover. They come in lots of colors, and will curl up around most tube sizes. Just trim to length and diamter. J.D. Stewart UltraFun AirSports http://www.ultrafunairsports.com > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Swenson" > > Denny/Listers > I split an aluminum tube that has the same ID as the longerons OD, riveted > in place with three rivets. Ray at TNK gave me the idea. I could send > pictures if you would like. Very neet and durable. > Guy S. > > > > I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the > "fabric/paint" on the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb > in and out > of the Mk-3 cockpit. > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:24 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR update --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman Paul Petty wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" > > Hello Kolbers, > > Two word's.... Totally Awesome!!!!! Tweaked on the HD last night and made two 20 minute runs. Made some new headers for it and that helped allot. Starter is working finally. > Ran it @ 4000 rpm for 5 minutes no problems. Here is the big question. It seems that the prop has no real effect on the engine other than it appears to smooth this out in terms of vibration. I can full throttle it but only for a second, because the prop is not enough load for the beast! What do I need to do next? A prop with a bigger bite? I talked to Charley last night on the phone about it and he is thinking a Mcally metal prop like the one on the 150. Wish I had more time off work so I could drag this thing to SnF. > Anyway all the camera's are in the motor home at Lakeland or I would have another video for everyone. One interesting note, at 4200 rpm it will start to drag or move if you will,the Polaris 4 wheeler,trailer. I'm guessing the total weight of the 4 wheeler/trailer/engine and stand to be around 1200 lbs. Just a wild guess. My engineer buddy lives a mile away from me and he called and said he could hear the run up's from his place. Guess were going to have to make some mufflers hehe... > Fun times here with the engine folks. > > pp.... > N4958P > > Do not archive Why not try direct drive and see how fast it will turn that prop? ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:39 AM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Kolb-List: kite flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean Hey guys, nobody told me you had to tie ALL the wheels down! I bolted on the 70" warp, dialed in 10deg for a start and hit the go switch. After checking out OX numbers at moderate settings I figured everything looked pretty good, so (standing on the ground) I opened it up a bit and naturally the tail floated up, tied to the car bumper, but then I was a little surprised when the left wheel started lifting up too. Guess that little bit of angle has more effect than would be expected. Quite an adrenaline rush. At least there is no doubt whether it has enough push to fly. One more shot before I push it back in the hole, this time maybe I'll actually look at rpm's. -and get my brother to sit in it so it doesn't hover again. It's great to really get to the "show and tell" stage-BB MkIII, 60hp? geo/raven, 2 gal/hr @80mph ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:35 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR update USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Were working on the hub for that application as we speak! pp.... N4958P Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR update > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman > > Paul Petty wrote: > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" > > > > Hello Kolbers, > > > > Two word's.... Totally Awesome!!!!! Tweaked on the HD last night and made two 20 minute runs. Made some new headers for it and that helped allot. Starter is working finally. > > Ran it @ 4000 rpm for 5 minutes no problems. Here is the big question. It seems that the prop has no real effect on the engine other than it appears to smooth this out in terms of vibration. I can full throttle it but only for a second, because the prop is not enough load for the beast! What do I need to do next? A prop with a bigger bite? I talked to Charley last night on the phone about it and he is thinking a Mcally metal prop like the one on the 150. Wish I had more time off work so I could drag this thing to SnF. > > Anyway all the camera's are in the motor home at Lakeland or I would have another video for everyone. One interesting note, at 4200 rpm it will start to drag or move if you will,the Polaris 4 wheeler,trailer. I'm guessing the total weight of the 4 wheeler/trailer/engine and stand to be around 1200 lbs. Just a wild guess. My engineer buddy lives a mile away from me and he called and said he could hear the run up's from his place. Guess were going to have to make some mufflers hehe... > > Fun times here with the engine folks. > > > > pp.... > > N4958P > > > > Do not archive > > Why not try direct drive and see how fast it will turn that prop? > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:37:03 AM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer re: Dave R's comment about instr. pnl out of range. I had my trifocals made to have the mid-range sector (the middle lense) sized to clearly see the pnl---and the lower (close-up or reading sector) sized to read charts and approach plates on lap or yoke. Now that I am stuck flying a vehicle, I still use the mid-range for seeing the panel, which is way beyond arm's length in my FF. And can see the GPS/radio velcro-ed to my knee, looking thru lower sector. Just takes a little practice--on the grnd first. And a tip: my lower sectors are clear, leaving the upper one tinted neutral grey. That way I can see the relatively darker inside, while getting the benefit of sun-block outside. B-L use to make glass blanks with the color part in the glass, rather than getting coated and soon scratched up. Haven't seen them since I moved back to The States--fm CA. Used to trade instrument currency practice with another guy, who wouldn't use bifocals. Had two pairs--one distance, one close. He was a riot fumbling those glasses, looking for proper app. plate and also trying to maintain gage-scan. Bob N. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:00 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: RE: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb Most of the shower curtain rod covers you find are a hard brittle plastic material and will break very easily. I found one that was a soft flexible and it been on there since 95. Unfortunately I been unable to locate that type since. 8 ( jerb At 09:42 AM 3/28/03 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" > > Go to Wal Mart and buy a plastic shower curtain rod cover. They > come in >lots of colors, and will curl up around most tube sizes. Just trim to >length and diamter. > >J.D. Stewart >UltraFun AirSports >http://www.ultrafunairsports.com > > > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Swenson" > > > > Denny/Listers > > I split an aluminum tube that has the same ID as the longerons OD, riveted > > in place with three rivets. Ray at TNK gave me the idea. I could send > > pictures if you would like. Very neet and durable. > > Guy S. > > > > > > > I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the > > "fabric/paint" on the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb > > in and out > > of the Mk-3 cockpit. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:00 PM PST US From: "Jim" Subject: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim" Bill, Well, there you have it! Some like progressive lens, others bi-focals, and some trifocals! That's the beauty of this list - you will get diverse opinions and then make your own decision. Probably the best overall advice was to get used to whatever you choose before you go flying. Maybe even go up with someone in a two seater and see how the landings look to you. Good luck and great flying! Jim Mark III Charlotte, NC ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:27:58 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kite flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Bob I am building a MK III X but I haven't decided on an engine yet. I am interested in your performance and how you have mounted the engine. Do you have any pictures? Thanks Jim Ballenger Flying a FS KXP 447 Building a MK III X Virginia Beach, VA DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bean" Subject: Kolb-List: kite flying > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean > > Hey guys, nobody told me you had to tie ALL the wheels down! > I bolted on the 70" warp, dialed in 10deg for a start and hit the > go switch. After checking out OX numbers at moderate settings > I figured everything looked pretty good, so (standing on the ground) > I opened it up a bit and naturally the tail floated up, tied to the car > bumper, but then I was a little surprised when the left wheel started > lifting up too. Guess that little bit of angle has more effect than > would be expected. Quite an adrenaline rush. At least there is no > doubt whether it has enough push to fly. One more shot before > I push it back in the hole, this time maybe I'll actually look at rpm's. > -and get my brother to sit in it so it doesn't hover again. > It's great to really get to the "show and tell" stage-BB > MkIII, 60hp? geo/raven, 2 gal/hr @80mph > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:35 PM PST US From: Bill Vincent Subject: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent Thank you everyone for sharing all your bifocal information....but I think we are scaring the heck out of the young whipper-snappers who know their day is coming. Bill Vincent Firestar II Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:35 PM PST US From: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: paint protector? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." Denny: I have found colored (white in my case) works great, easily changed out and cheap. George Original Firestar R377 http://gtalexander.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gerken" Subject: Kolb-List: paint protector? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" > > > >Time: 05:15:37 PM PST US > >From: > >Subject: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: > > >Kolbers, > >I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the > "fabric/paint" on > >the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb in and out of the Mk-3 > cockpit. > >Thinking about using a split hose with the correct inside diameter to fit > over > >the tubes. Whatever I use needs to be 1/16" to 1/8" thick as it will also > serve > >as a strike plate for my front door latches. Thought that the ribbed > plastic > >split wire loom would work, but the plastic I am sure would tear up the > fabric. > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > >Denny > > This is another place you can use 3M book binding tape (#345?) . The > same stuff some guys use as aileron gap seals, elevator gap seals, rudder > gap seals, horizontal stab to fuse tube seals, cabin hinges seals, etc. > Works for me. The stuff is tough and clear, lasts years, then easily and > quickly removed with PPG degreaser without damage to Stits Poly. Cheap > too. Check archives for more info if you cant find it at local office > supply store. > > Jim Gerken > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:08:44 PM PST US From: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: paint protector? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." Left out the product...... duct tape. It ain't just bi-focals I'm worried about. I forgot what else I was worried about. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: paint protector? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." > > Denny: > I have found colored (white in my case) works great, easily changed out and > cheap. > George > Original Firestar R377 > http://gtalexander.home.att.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Gerken" > To: > Subject: Kolb-List: paint protector? > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" > > > > > > >Time: 05:15:37 PM PST US > > >From: > > >Subject: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? > > > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: > > > > >Kolbers, > > >I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the > > "fabric/paint" on > > >the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb in and out of the Mk-3 > > cockpit. > > >Thinking about using a split hose with the correct inside diameter to fit > > over > > >the tubes. Whatever I use needs to be 1/16" to 1/8" thick as it will > also > > serve > > >as a strike plate for my front door latches. Thought that the ribbed > > plastic > > >split wire loom would work, but the plastic I am sure would tear up the > > fabric. > > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > >Denny > > > > This is another place you can use 3M book binding tape (#345?) . The > > same stuff some guys use as aileron gap seals, elevator gap seals, rudder > > gap seals, horizontal stab to fuse tube seals, cabin hinges seals, etc. > > Works for me. The stuff is tough and clear, lasts years, then easily and > > quickly removed with PPG degreaser without damage to Stits Poly. Cheap > > too. Check archives for more info if you cant find it at local office > > supply store. > > > > Jim Gerken > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:35 PM PST US From: "Fackler, Ken" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" An interesting thread, yet one I've read with some very mixed and very interesting emotions. Here's why. On Feb 23, I turned 46, hardly a senior. However, on that day I also woke up with double vision. After some time in the hospital and many tests, most of them unpleasant, it seems I've experienced a "neurological event." Cranial nerve 6, which among other things partially controls the movement of my right eye, isn't working properly. The condition is called palsy. Cute. I can no longer see properly out of both eyes together and am forced to cover my right eye in order to be able to do little unimportant things like walk or fix a meal. There's no treatment other than, to quote a 60's tune, Wishin' and Hopin'. The docs say the instance of recovery is quite high but that it can take a very long time, as in months. The jury is currently out on whether I'll be able to fly again or if flying with one eye is an option. I'm told that Wiley Post could only see from one eye. My last flight instructor thought it would be possible but would require relearning some things. My plan is to hire him and rent a Cessna and do some pattern work to see how that goes. But in the meantime, the Kolb is effectively grounded. (Whew, back on topic!) I don't know how long I can justify keeping a plane I can't fly, so it may be up for sale in a month or two. My flying buddies, of course, are all saying, "No, no, wait, surely you'll recover." I hope they're right. -Ken "One Eye" Fackler Mark II / 503 Rochester MI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Vincent" Subject: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent > > Thank you everyone for sharing all your bifocal information....but I > think we are scaring the heck out of the young whipper-snappers who know > their day is coming. > > Bill Vincent > Firestar II > Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan > > Do Not Archive > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:36 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: paint protector? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" They say the memory is the 2nd thing to go..........................?? Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: paint protector? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." > > Left out the product...... duct tape. > It ain't just bi-focals I'm worried about. I forgot what else I was worried > about. > George > ----- Original Message ----- ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:31 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken, We're all hoping and praying for a timely recovery for you. Hang in there and give it a little time to work itself out. Sincerely, Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: Fackler, Ken Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > An interesting thread, yet one I've read with some very mixed and very > interesting emotions. Here's why. > > On Feb 23, I turned 46, hardly a senior. However, on that day I also woke up > with double vision. After some time in the hospital and many tests, most of > them unpleasant, it seems I've experienced a "neurological event." Cranial > nerve 6, which among other things partially controls the movement of my > right eye, isn't working properly. The condition is called palsy. Cute. > > I can no longer see properly out of both eyes together and am forced to > cover my right eye in order to be able to do little unimportant things like > walk or fix a meal. There's no treatment other than, to quote a 60's tune, > Wishin' and Hopin'. The docs say the instance of recovery is quite high but > that it can take a very long time, as in months. > > The jury is currently out on whether I'll be able to fly again or if flying > with one eye is an option. I'm told that Wiley Post could only see from one > eye. My last flight instructor thought it would be possible but would > require relearning some things. My plan is to hire him and rent a Cessna and > do some pattern work to see how that goes. But in the meantime, the Kolb is > effectively grounded. (Whew, back on topic!) > > I don't know how long I can justify keeping a plane I can't fly, so it may > be up for sale in a month or two. My flying buddies, of course, are all > saying, "No, no, wait, surely you'll recover." I hope they're right. > > -Ken "One Eye" Fackler > Mark II / 503 > Rochester MI > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Vincent" > To: > Subject: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent > > > > Thank you everyone for sharing all your bifocal information....but I > > think we are scaring the heck out of the young whipper-snappers who know > > their day is coming. > > > > Bill Vincent > > Firestar II > > Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan > > > > Do Not Archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:43 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck Ken/Gang: Hang in there. Don't quit so quickly. I have a good friend from the VN era Army. Jerry lost an eye due to small arms fire while flying a Huey in VN. I did not meet him until some years later at Ft Rucker, Alabama, where we worked together. He was then c CWO W4, still on flight status, and flew rotary wing aircraft quite well with one eye. On top of that he was one crazy Mexican/American. Great guy. Oh yea, and before he went to the Warrant Officer Flight Program he did a couple tours in VN as an NCO in one of my old units, the 5th SFG (Abn). You can do it if you try. john h ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:17 PM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: Thanks everyone --> Kolb-List message posted by: Just wanted to thank everyone who gave suggestions i.e.: solutions on my door trim and longeron protection questions. All were excellent, I should have enough info to make my decisions on both now. Finished connecting the dual magnum wingtip strobes tonight and fired em up, they work beautifully. Very little details to finish up as I wait for news on the registration front. Got my medical scheduled for Monday morning and may also get a little dual in a 152 to prepare for my BFR. Have to soon get together with Terry Swartz to get a check out ride in his Mk-3, if all goes well I hope to fly out to Lancaster in a rented Cessna to meet Terry. This is starting to look like a good summer is shaping up. Denny Rowe PS: Paul Petty, I wish you lived around here, you really "Haul the Mail" in that workshop of yours, it must be fun to watch a can do guy like you at work. How bout it guys? This is coming from a guy who doesn't even care about Harlys. do not archive ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 05:28:48 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk-3 ride --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry, If your offer still stands, I hope to be out to see you for a ride in the Mk-3 in the next couple of weeks. Denny Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mk-3 ride > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" > > Denny, > > I would take your for a ride if we can find a nice day when I have time. > I'm at Lancaster PA, about 4 hours from Pitt. and fly a MK III with a 912, 3 > years old with 265 hrs. > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > rowedl@highstream.net > To: kolblist > Subject: Kolb-List: Mk-3 ride > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: > > Listers, > Hughs question about getting a Kolb ride reminded me that I need to get a > check ride in a Mk-3 or Kolbra real soon. I was unable to get to TNKs open > house this year where I had hoped to hop a ride. > I am a low time private pilot and fly a Loehle Sport Parasol, used to fly > Pterodactyls, but my only Kolb ride was back in the late 80s in an old > Twinstar, a ride that sold me on Kolbs. That thing really performed on a > 503. > Anyway, is there anyone within a daytrip of Pittsburgh PA who would be > willing to sale me a ride in their Kolb. > Denny Rowe > Mk-3 690L-70 > N616DR final assembly stage > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:25 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums At 07:49 PM 3/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > >An interesting thread, yet one I've read with some very mixed and very >interesting emotions. Here's why. > >On Feb 23, I turned 46, hardly a senior. However, on that day I also woke up >with double vision. After some time in the hospital and many tests, most of >them unpleasant, it seems I've experienced a "neurological event." Cranial >nerve 6, which among other things partially controls the movement of my >right eye, isn't working properly. The condition is called palsy. Cute. > >I can no longer see properly out of both eyes together and am forced to >cover my right eye in order to be able to do little unimportant things like >walk or fix a meal. There's no treatment other than, to quote a 60's tune, >Wishin' and Hopin'. The docs say the instance of recovery is quite high but >that it can take a very long time, as in months. > >The jury is currently out on whether I'll be able to fly again or if flying >with one eye is an option. I'm told that Wiley Post could only see from one >eye. -------------------------- If me and Wiley can do it, I'm sure you can do it. Besides - it ain't the flying that's hard - it's the landings. Just go on longer trips. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/possums@mindspring.com.02.09.2003/1Warm3.jpg ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:26 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" That's far from a happy birthday, Ken. There IS a bright spot, tho'. I don't know what flavor of palsy you've got, but those who've been on the List several years may remember me squalling about missing my vacation in about '98 because of coming down with Bell's Palsy on (in ??) the right side of my face - the day before I was due to leave on my trip. In '93 I had it on the left side. It's a miserable condition, and still aggravates me to this day. With time - about 6 weeks - it will generally ease, and it's been shown that one cause is an irritation or trauma of the nerve that comes up the back of your head, and above your ear and cheekbone. A contributing factor is stress. My 1st go-round was apparently triggered by alcohol, (I fell off the wagon briefly) but not the 2nd, which was apparently triggered by freezing the side of my head while working in a large air conditioning duct the day before. That nerve felt like a hot wire while I had the Palsy. Pressure on the nerve makes it worse. So.................when I find that the right side of my face is going numb, eye's burning, (doesn't blink right) slurring my speech, etc., I go to the chiropractor and get my neck adjusted. It's apparently the 2nd or 3rd vertebra down, and it's difficult - and painful - to put right, but when done, my face is almost back to normal again. "Regular" doctors won't even speak to chiropractors, and there's much controversy, but they've sure helped me. I'm a believer, for sure. Hang in there, and let us know how you're doing. Been There Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fackler, Ken" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > An interesting thread, yet one I've read with some very mixed and very > interesting emotions. Here's why. > > On Feb 23, I turned 46, hardly a senior. However, on that day I also woke up > with double vision. After some time in the hospital and many tests, most of > them unpleasant, it seems I've experienced a "neurological event." Cranial > nerve 6, which among other things partially controls the movement of my > right eye, isn't working properly. The condition is called palsy. Cute. > > I can no longer see properly out of both eyes together and am forced to > cover my right eye in order to be able to do little unimportant things like ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:02 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Naw................at that age, they KNOW they're immortal. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Vincent" Subject: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent > > Thank you everyone for sharing all your bifocal information....but I > think we are scaring the heck out of the young whipper-snappers who know > their day is coming. > > Bill Vincent > Firestar II > Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan > > Do Not Archive > > ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:31 PM PST US From: al bumhoffer Subject: Kolb-List: floor boards --> Kolb-List message posted by: al bumhoffer I picked up the floor pcs. for my FirestarII today from the body shop who sprayed them with pick-up truck bed-liner material. It gave them a textured finish for slip resistance and looks pretty nice. I'm sure it added some weight, but probably less than carpet, and looks better than bare or painted. Just thought I would pass this on to the list. Al Bumhoffer Elkton, MI. Still painting. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:02 PM PST US From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Yo Ken, Keep the Kolb. Don't worry about flying with one eye. I only have one eye and I can bend gear with the best (worst?) of 'em. I lost my left eye about 12 years ago to cancer and have been doing jess fine, thank ewe!!! I fly a MK III and a Firestar and don't have any problems. Y'see, when you're landing, you are looking straight out, not at the ground a few feet away. After a certain distance (don't remember how much, but not as far as you might think) depth perception becomes irrelevant so you're just the same as a two-eyed guy (or gal - damn this pc stuff). I also drive a lot of miles in a 34' motorhome and pull a 24' trailer and have no problems. In fact, when we get on the narrow, twisty mountain roads, my two-eyed wife pulls over and makes me drive. Any problems I have with only one eye are pretty minor. In fact, the worst thing about having only one eye is that you've only got one (1) left. Good Luck, AzDave Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots > --> Kolb-List message posted by: > > Ken, > We're all hoping and praying for a timely recovery for you. Hang in there > and give it a little time to work itself out. > > Sincerely, > Denny > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fackler, Ken > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > > > An interesting thread, yet one I've read with some very mixed and very > > interesting emotions. Here's why. > > > > On Feb 23, I turned 46, hardly a senior. However, on that day I also woke > up > > with double vision. After some time in the hospital and many tests, most > of > > them unpleasant, it seems I've experienced a "neurological event." Cranial > > nerve 6, which among other things partially controls the movement of my > > right eye, isn't working properly. The condition is called palsy. Cute. > > > > I can no longer see properly out of both eyes together and am forced to > > cover my right eye in order to be able to do little unimportant things > like > > walk or fix a meal. There's no treatment other than, to quote a 60's tune, > > Wishin' and Hopin'. The docs say the instance of recovery is quite high > but > > that it can take a very long time, as in months. > > > > The jury is currently out on whether I'll be able to fly again or if > flying > > with one eye is an option. I'm told that Wiley Post could only see from > one > > eye. My last flight instructor thought it would be possible but would > > require relearning some things. My plan is to hire him and rent a Cessna > and > > do some pattern work to see how that goes. But in the meantime, the Kolb > is > > effectively grounded. (Whew, back on topic!) > > > > I don't know how long I can justify keeping a plane I can't fly, so it may > > be up for sale in a month or two. My flying buddies, of course, are all > > saying, "No, no, wait, surely you'll recover." I hope they're right. > > > > -Ken "One Eye" Fackler > > Mark II / 503 > > Rochester MI > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Vincent" > > To: > > Subject: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots > > > > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent > > > > > > Thank you everyone for sharing all your bifocal information....but I > > > think we are scaring the heck out of the young whipper-snappers who know > > > their day is coming. > > > > > > Bill Vincent > > > Firestar II > > > Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan > > > > > > Do Not Archive > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:00 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR HTML_50_70, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Hey folk's Building a website for the beast.... www.c-gate.net/ppetty more to come.... pp.... N4958P Do not archive ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:19 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: paint protector? --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb Good idea Jim. I may just give this a try on my Hawk. I've put a 3 corner tear in one almost new pair of pants and almost done it to another sliding over the side to get in the cock pit. The tape may just do the trick to smooth the edge and prevent snagging on the sharp edges of the seat where attached to the side of the cage. jerb At 07:15 AM 3/28/03 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" > > > >Time: 05:15:37 PM PST US > >From: > >Subject: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: > > >Kolbers, > >I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the >"fabric/paint" on > >the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb in and out of the Mk-3 >cockpit. > >Thinking about using a split hose with the correct inside diameter to fit >over > >the tubes. Whatever I use needs to be 1/16" to 1/8" thick as it will also >serve > >as a strike plate for my front door latches. Thought that the ribbed >plastic > >split wire loom would work, but the plastic I am sure would tear up the >fabric. > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > >Denny > >This is another place you can use 3M book binding tape (#345?) . The >same stuff some guys use as aileron gap seals, elevator gap seals, rudder >gap seals, horizontal stab to fuse tube seals, cabin hinges seals, etc. >Works for me. The stuff is tough and clear, lasts years, then easily and >quickly removed with PPG degreaser without damage to Stits Poly. Cheap >too. Check archives for more info if you cant find it at local office >supply store. > >Jim Gerken > > ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:07 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer re: Wiley Post. At 25, working in the oil fields, he lost his left eye. Used the compensation to buy his first airplane and learned to fly. Since he was monocular while learning to fly, he didn't seem to miss complete sight and didn't have trouble with depth perception on landing. For pilots with a lot of hours, especially in one or similar types, the loss of one eye doesn't seem to bother them greatly in landing since they have a lot of built-in experience. I say to Ken: follow the dr's advice about prognosis, and get some dual with an IP who will work with you in getting around what we all hope to be a temporary problem. Heck, I just get near enough to the ground that the vehicle will be usable after my kinda landing! Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 07:05:01 PM PST US From: Go5for4@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: Go5for4@aol.com I was having trouble with landings until one day I took my trifocals off before landing. That was my problem. I was misjudging my height. Merle in Orlando In a message dated 3/27/03 8:46:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, emailbill@chartermi.net writes: > This is a question for "Senior" Kolb pilots: > > I just got my bifocals and I can hardly walk down the stairs! > > I will be flying again soon, should I try landing with the bifocals on > or will they cause problems? > ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 07:05:01 PM PST US From: Go5for4@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Go5for4@aol.com I would like pictures. Thanks Merle in Orlando In a message dated 3/27/03 10:59:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, guys@rrt.net writes: > Denny/Listers > I split an aluminum tube that has the same ID as the longerons OD, riveted > in place with three rivets. Ray at TNK gave me the idea. I could send > pictures if you would like. Very neet and durable. > Guy S. > > > >I am also trying to come up with a solution for protecting the > "fabric/paint" on the top fuselage longeron tube where you climb in and out > of the Mk-3 cockpit. > > ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:51 PM PST US From: "J.D. Stewart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: entry longeron trim? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" Hmm, mine was on for over 2 years with no cracking. Sold the plane in November, but I imagine it's still holding up. J.D. > > Most of the shower curtain rod covers you find are a hard brittle plastic > material and will break very easily. I found one that was a soft flexible > and it been on there since 95. Unfortunately I been unable to locate that > type since. 8 > ( > jerb