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1. 07:59 AM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (woody)
2. 08:14 AM - Re: EVO/AIR (jerb)
3. 08:26 AM - Better Refueling Method Needed (jerb)
4. 08:36 AM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Cy Galley)
5. 08:37 AM - Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Fackler, Ken)
6. 08:55 AM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Robert Laird)
7. 09:19 AM - Re: Sun&Fun Freebies (Jon Croke)
8. 09:44 AM - Re: EVO/AIR (CaptainRon)
9. 09:49 AM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (herbgh@juno.com)
10. 09:56 AM - EVO/AIR Video update (Paul Petty)
11. 10:49 AM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Bob Noyer)
12. 11:31 AM - Re: one-eyed pilots (Peter Volum)
13. 01:21 PM - Mark III Classic for Sale (L. Ray Baker)
14. 01:33 PM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Eugene Zimmerman)
15. 02:03 PM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Bob Noyer)
16. 03:29 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Larry Cottrell)
17. 03:43 PM - Re: MarkIII (Larry Cottrell)
18. 04:02 PM - EVO/AIR website update (Paul Petty)
19. 06:02 PM - Kolb on TV (Fackler, Ken)
20. 06:12 PM - Re: EVO/AIR website update (Richard Pike)
21. 07:21 PM - Re: MarkIII (Larry Cottrell)
22. 07:23 PM - Re: Kolb on TV (Hugh)
23. 07:57 PM - Re: Kolb on TV (Bob Noyer)
24. 08:03 PM - Re: Kolb on TV (Hugh)
25. 08:16 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (jerb)
26. 08:22 PM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (jerb)
27. 08:50 PM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Bob Noyer)
28. 09:12 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Peter Volum)
29. 09:29 PM - For Sale - Kolb FireFly (jerb)
30. 09:59 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Robert Laird)
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| Subject: | Re: Senior Kolb Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
A
>I don't know how long I can justify keeping a plane I can't fly, so it may
>be up for sale in a month or two. My flying buddies, of course, are all
>saying, "No, no, wait, surely you'll recover." I hope they're right.
Take one of your flying buddies up with you as a safety and see how you
can fly now. If no one else can go I will drop in and do it.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Very interesting. Noticed your planning on using a chain drive for the
redrive. I have my doubts that will work for long but it might. Some
thing will break after some hours. There are power pulses and harmonics
the chain drive will be unable to absorb. If your look into a Rotax or
Hirth redrive they have rubber donuts that absorb those pluses. The
Challenger redrive used a cog belt.
You might consider giving Jim Holbrook, one of the principles that was
involved in converting a Citron auto engine from France to ultralight
use. He gained a lot of knowledge from the project plus he put together a
redrive that also has starter. Here's a web site about the project he was
involved with and contact info. Would be worth a call. It was too bad
they couldn't get it to market, I think they were on to some thing. There
being the single source parts for engine parts was one of the major
stumbling blocks for market acceptance.
jerb
http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/thunderchief.htm
At 03:59 PM 3/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
>Hi Kolbers,
>Worked on the website for a couple of hours this afternoon. Weather to bad
>for flying. Good news is that Charley grabbed the wrong camera bag and we
>still have the digital camcorder. So tomorrow I will film a full run up of
>the "Beast" and publish it to the web for all to see. Heading to the shop
>tonight to work on that dad blamed starter. Started work on the direct
>drive prop hub today. I noticed that the set up for a Verner is to mount
>the plate directly to the airframe and isolate it at the engine. I'm
>thinking that this may be the way to go if Capt'n Ron wants to really try
>this out. Also I need idea's on a prop with a counter rotation to make
>this thing a pusher. If any of you want to follow the progress of the
>project go to www.c-gate.net/ppetty
>
>
>pp....
>N4958P
>
>Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Better Refueling Method Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
I'm tired of trying to balance gas cans on the wing to refuel my
plane. Any body have any experience with these rotary handle transfer
pumps used in drums. How many cranks does it take to transfer 5
gals. Been considering using compressed air, or even an inexpensive
12-volt pumps that has a decent flow rate. Haven't found any that can do
better than 5 gals in 10-15 minutes. Was thinking about making a wheeled
cart with a fold down post with a can perch on top. Would roll up to the
plane, place the tank on top and use a siphon hose. The perch would be
angle do the fuel flow to one corner of the tanks as it empties. Any body
got some better ideals?
jerb
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| Subject: | Re: Better Refueling Method Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Do NOT use compresses air as it increases the hazards of gasoline.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>
> I'm tired of trying to balance gas cans on the wing to refuel my
> plane. Any body have any experience with these rotary handle transfer
> pumps used in drums. How many cranks does it take to transfer 5
> gals. Been considering using compressed air, or even an inexpensive
> 12-volt pumps that has a decent flow rate. Haven't found any that can do
> better than 5 gals in 10-15 minutes. Was thinking about making a wheeled
> cart with a fold down post with a can perch on top. Would roll up to the
> plane, place the tank on top and use a siphon hose. The perch would be
> angle do the fuel flow to one corner of the tanks as it empties. Any body
> got some better ideals?
> jerb
>
>
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| Subject: | Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> got some better ideals?
When I was inspecting my plane prior to purchase, the guy I bought it from
had a battery-operated pump. I asked, but he couldn't remember where he got
it. Since then I've looked and looked and have been unable to find one. But
if you can, that might be a good choice.
-Ken Fackler
Mark II / 503
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
At 10:36 AM 3/30/2003, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> > got some better ideals?
Here's a fuel transfer system that I heard of...
The pump is a Fill-Rite 115v unit that pumps 13 gallons per minute. These
pumps are also available in 12 volts DC. The guy welded the frame out of 1"
square tube, added wheels and a couple of pie tins as a spool to hold the
ground cable and power cord. The base holds two 6.5 gallon gas cans. A
flexible hose and a section of copper pipe are used as a pickup. Fueling
the aircraft is easy with the 12' hose and nozzle that comes with the unit.
The 3/4" fuel filter fitting and filter are extra.
You can see a picture of it here: http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Aviation/pump.jpg
These pumps are available through Northern Tool & Equipment, search for
"Fuel Transfer Pump"
http://www.NorthernTool.com/
The 12 volt model (#109577) is on sale for $184.99
The 115volt model (#109578 is on sale for $214.99
They are also available through Harbor Freight, search under
"Fill-Rite".
http://www.harborfreight.com/
The 12 volt model (45675-1VGA) is 179.99
The 115 volt model (43459-1VGA) is $249.99 - this must be the heavy duty model.
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| Subject: | Re: Sun&Fun Freebies |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
Richard,
Looking forward to meeting you at Sun n Fun, glad you are able to make it.
I have added your name to the list at www.kolbpilot.com -- seems we have a
pretty good group so far.. I think we still need to set a get together time
for dinner or such.. maybe play it by ear. In any event I think this will
be a good year....! Hope more people on the list here can make it.
Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
> I wasn't planning on going to S & F because I'm not yet up to much
> standing or walking. But I found me a handicap scooter & now I plan on
> being there wed thru Sat or Sun. I'll be camping in my white & green trim
> enclosed trailer in the UL trailer parking. It has a RV awning & some
extra
> chairs, so come by & visit. If I'm not there at the time, make yourself
at
> home & get some shade & rest.
> I have a Cub style bungie landing gear setup for any UltraStar owner
who
> wants to convert to a shock absorbing gear. They are free to a good home.
> Also, I have a free 15 gal transluscent gas tank that fits nicely in
the
> back of a SlingShot or FSII. It makes a great auxillary or even primary
> tank.
> I will try to bring my 3 cyl Chevy Sprint Turbo conversion if you want
> to check it out.
> I am selling my Rotax 582 SeaDoo conversion for $2500. It has
electric
> start, 2.58 B Redrive, Exhaust, Altitude Compensating Carbs, & Radiator.
It
> is pickled in oil & has 50 Hrs. Call me by Tues & I'll bring it with me.
>
> Richard Swiderski
> Summerfield FL
> 352-307-9009
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "CaptainRon" <captainron@theriver.com>
Finally got to see your HD beating the air. All I can say is that you have
one ass kicking power plant. It looks like it will blow the rest of whats
available into the margines the first time it starts flying debugged. I
share your impression about the prop that you have installed. Its not enough
to take the power its getting.
Keep up the good work, personally I am very impressed with you two guys
doing that, inclusive of the dude in the best back yard mechanic tradition
who is walking around with a smoke hanging outta corner of the mouth. You
got me laughing on that one. :-)
Paul if you don't give up this could be the start of a revolution in power
plants for Light Aircraft. An affordable real American Ass Kicking motor,
can't get any better than that.
:-)
wish I was there to help.
====================
> http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/thunderchief.htm
>
>
> At 03:59 PM 3/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
> >
> >Hi Kolbers,
> >Worked on the website for a couple of hours this afternoon. Weather to
bad
> >for flying. Good news is that Charley grabbed the wrong camera bag and we
> >still have the digital camcorder. So tomorrow I will film a full run up
of
> >the "Beast" and publish it to the web for all to see. Heading to the shop
> >tonight to work on that dad blamed starter. Started work on the direct
> >drive prop hub today. I noticed that the set up for a Verner is to mount
> >the plate directly to the airframe and isolate it at the engine. I'm
> >thinking that this may be the way to go if Capt'n Ron wants to really try
> >this out. Also I need idea's on a prop with a counter rotation to make
> >this thing a pusher. If any of you want to follow the progress of the
> >project go to www.c-gate.net/ppetty
> >
> >
> >pp....
> >N4958P
> >
> >Do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
Guys
I suspect that the submersible auto fuel tank pumps ,properly set up,
would work. When they come out of the tank they have an intake filter,
fuel quantity sender unit and the wiring. Not sure about the capacity
however? Lots of pressure!! Herb in Ky
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:36:41 -0500 "Fackler, Ken"
<kfackler@ameritech.net> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken"
> <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> > got some better ideals?
>
> When I was inspecting my plane prior to purchase, the guy I bought
> it from
> had a battery-operated pump. I asked, but he couldn't remember where
> he got
> it. Since then I've looked and looked and have been unable to find
> one. But
> if you can, that might be a good choice.
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | EVO/AIR Video update |
CLICK_BELOW, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
I have uploaded the new video of the "Beast" to the web. Go to www.c-gate.net/ppetty
or click right here www.c-gate.net/ppetty/TestRun032303.wmv it took me about
12 minutes to download. For those of you on cable or DSL it should load fast!!
It's 25 seconds long and 1.5 meg in size. The video shows a warm start with
a run up to 3500 RPM. I ran it today for about 30 minutes @ 3500 RPM and then
did some WOT from idle and really romped on it and everything worked ok. I
think I am going to move it over to a bigger trailer and run it up to 4000 RPM
and let it run for a hour next run. Well that's all for now off to the airport
for a lesson. 14 knot headwinds here today. Should be interesting!
Later
pp....
N4958P
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| Subject: | Re: Better Refueling Method Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
re: "danger" of using compressed air for refueling--this was
hashed/rehashed at length a coupla years ago. For many years I
successfully refueled my C172 and C177 using bottled compressed
air--without even once blowing either myself or A/C into another world.
See my short article in Ultralight Flying! 12/98.
Somehow the use of either a submerged electrical pump (altho many cars
and trucks have one, except my Toyota PU is TOG for a busted one!) or an
external electrical pump with attendant switches/wiring engenders a
greater danger than air. The fallicy that "compressed air contains more
oxygen" forgets that the same air contains more nitogen, too.
My ultralight has only a 5 gal tank that I'm still able to fill through
the lift-tilt-pour system.
Bob N. FF070
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Ken, I have some personal experience on this topic, as I'm legally blind
from my left eye as a result of an accident as a child that led to a
detached retina.
After a couple of operations lateral vision was recovered in my bad eye,
but what little vision was recovered straight ahead, is blurry and "not
in the right place"(i.e, I see double).
The fact that this happened to me as a child may be a factor in my
having become accustomed to it, but the truth is, it doesn't bother me
one iota. I'm not conscious of the double image. My brain has simply
learned to ignore the "ghost".
The first time I applied for my FAA medical, they sent me to a
specialist for additional testing to ensure I still had depth
perception. As I was able to prove this satisfactorily, I was approved
by the FAA doctor. Since then, every physical been pretty much routine.
My good eye gets tested and I'm asked if my condition has changed. End
of story. At least... for flying as a private pilot. On the practical
side it really doesn't make any difference either. Landing approaches,
judgments of distance and speed, seeing other traffic, etc... are in no
way hindered by the fact that I only have vision from one eye.
Fortunately for me (and for thousands of other pilots out there), the
FAA is apparently aware of this.
In my opinion, if and when you feel comfortable enough to drive a car
safely, you will be just as capable of flying your Kolb. (Squeezed in
the K word just in time!)
Peter Volum
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:49:11 -0500 "Fackler, Ken"
<kfackler@ameritech.net> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken"
> <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> An interesting thread, yet one I've read with some very mixed and
> very
> interesting emotions. Here's why.
>
> On Feb 23, I turned 46, hardly a senior. However, on that day I also
> woke up
> with double vision. After some time in the hospital and many tests,
> most of
> them unpleasant, it seems I've experienced a "neurological event."
> Cranial
> nerve 6, which among other things partially controls the movement of
> my
> right eye, isn't working properly. The condition is called palsy.
> Cute.
>
> I can no longer see properly out of both eyes together and am forced
> to
> cover my right eye in order to be able to do little unimportant
> things like
> walk or fix a meal. There's no treatment other than, to quote a 60's
> tune,
> Wishin' and Hopin'. The docs say the instance of recovery is quite
> high but
> that it can take a very long time, as in months.
>
> The jury is currently out on whether I'll be able to fly again or if
> flying
> with one eye is an option. I'm told that Wiley Post could only see
> from one
> eye. My last flight instructor thought it would be possible but
> would
> require relearning some things. My plan is to hire him and rent a
> Cessna and
> do some pattern work to see how that goes. But in the meantime, the
> Kolb is
> effectively grounded. (Whew, back on topic!)
>
> I don't know how long I can justify keeping a plane I can't fly, so
> it may
> be up for sale in a month or two. My flying buddies, of course, are
> all
> saying, "No, no, wait, surely you'll recover." I hope they're
> right.
>
> -Ken "One Eye" Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Mark III Classic for Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "L. Ray Baker" <rbaker-@atlantic.net>
Due to personal circumstances I am selling my pride and joy. We are in the process
of flying off the 40 hour phase 1 tests.
KOLB Mark III N629RB Details. Pictures at <rbaker-.members.atlantic.net>
Rotax 912 with ground adjustable IVO 3 bladed prop.(14.4 hours and climbing)
Lang L-693, full swivel and steerable tailwheel.
BRS - 1050 Cannister chute.
Strobe, (Kuntzleman) mounted on horizontal stabilizer.
Landing Light
Aux Fuel pump.
Grand Rapids EIS with VSI.
Kuntzleman hotbox.
ICOM 4A radio, Pro Comm helmet, Avecom headset AC 200 PNR.
ELT, Ameri-king AK 450.
Wheel Fairings.
Paint (Poly-Tone) is white with green trim and gold stripping.
Total cost of materials, freight, taxes, airworthiness . $31K +, (I have the invoices
to prove it) Time to build 2000 hours (very slow builder) Detailed builders
log cross referenced to pictures of building process.
Currently flying off 40 hour phase 1 flight testing.
Located at Flying 10 Airport (0J8), Archer, FL (SW of Gainesville, FL)
Price $29,000
Ray Baker
4824 NW 75th Road
Gainesville, FL 32653-1189
352-264-8148
rbaker-@atlantic.net
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| Subject: | Re: Better Refueling Method Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Bob Noyer wrote:
snip
> My ultralight has only a 5 gal tank that I'm still able to fill through
> the lift-tilt-pour system.
>
> Bob N. FF070
And how old are you, you young wipper schnapper? Just you wait till you
ez
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| Subject: | Re: Better Refueling Method Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
Wait till what? Did you sign "ez" fer yer initials, or meaning "easy"?
ez fer you to say
b 1923, you figger it
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
If you go to a fuel dealer, (oil company) they have both battery and
electric pumps for sale. I have a battery powered one that I put on a 15 gal
plastic barrel that is mounted on wheels. I just roll it up to the plane,
hook the clamps on the plane battery, connect the grounding cable and fill
away. It has enough force that it will mix the oil with no problem. It is
worth the price that you will have to pay. My guess is somewhere in the area
of 250.00
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> > got some better ideals?
>
> When I was inspecting my plane prior to purchase, the guy I bought it from
> had a battery-operated pump. I asked, but he couldn't remember where he
got
> it. Since then I've looked and looked and have been unable to find one.
But
> if you can, that might be a good choice.
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Hi,
Thanks for the pictures. I am going to try to arrange financing, Keep me
posted if anything comes up
Larry Cottrell
Klamath Falls, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kearbey" <kearbey@cncnet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: MarkIII
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Kearbey" <kearbey@cncnet.com>
>
>
> To anyone interested.
> I have a Kolb MarkIII that we built about 5 years ago. It has about 130
hours on it, is in good shape, no accident history. Has a 582 with 3 blade
ivo electric prop, com radio with intercom.
> I need to sell it and get it out of my hangar. I need more room for my
helicopter. I just don't fly the kolb enough. Finished the annual and flew
it last week. I will sell it or I am going to take the engine off it and
take the aircraft apart.
> I am asking $10,000.00 firm! Unbelievable deal! Will start dissasembling
it in two weeks if no buyer!
>
> Robert Kearbey
> 2690 Olive hwy
> Oroville, Ca. 95966
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
To windy to fly today:-(
Froze my tail off riding the Buell to the airport and back. Added four new pages
to the website www.c-gate.net/ppetty
Headed to the shop for more R&D.............
pp....
N4958P
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Hi!
If you get a chance to see Walking with Giants: The Grizzlies of Siberia you'll
get a chance to see a beautiful Kolb (probably a Mark III) on a centerline float
used as a transport, photo, and research platform on the Kamchatka Peninsula
in Russia. The owner/pilot is an American naturalist who built the plane himself.
Sweet!
-Ken Fackler
Mark II / 503
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: EVO/AIR website update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Looking at your web site (very good!) and your reduction drive - good setup
for determining reduction ratio, prop pitch, diameter, etc.
You probably already know this, but in flight your greatest loads on the
reduction system will be gyroscopic. Every movement of the aircraft will
make the prop into a big gyroscope that will try to reconfigure whatever it
is mounted to.
Years ago when I was just getting started, I mounted a direct drive prop to
the end of the crank on a Yamaha CT-1 175cc enduro engine. Since I didn't
know anything, I called Jack McCornack for advice (since he had just flown
a Pterodactyl Fledge with a direct drive Sachs engine across the US, I
figured he might know something) and he told me that for a 36" wooden prop,
the Yamaha shaft needed to be at least 1" OD, or I could expect problems in
turbulence.
Was he right? I have no idea. Just passing it on.
Keep us posted, your project is fascinating.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 06:03 PM 3/30/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
>To windy to fly today:-(
>Froze my tail off riding the Buell to the airport and back. Added four new
>pages to the website www.c-gate.net/ppetty
>Headed to the shop for more R&D.............
>
>pp....
>N4958P
>
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>
>
Help Stop Spam!
Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you
forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life.
Thanks! And have a blessed day.
rp
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
OPPS, disregard.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MarkIII
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
> Hi,
> Thanks for the pictures. I am going to try to arrange financing, Keep
me
> posted if anything comes up
> Larry Cottrell
> Klamath Falls, Oregon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Kearbey" <kearbey@cncnet.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: MarkIII
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Kearbey" <kearbey@cncnet.com>
> >
> >
> > To anyone interested.
> > I have a Kolb MarkIII that we built about 5 years ago. It has about 130
> hours on it, is in good shape, no accident history. Has a 582 with 3 blade
> ivo electric prop, com radio with intercom.
> > I need to sell it and get it out of my hangar. I need more room for my
> helicopter. I just don't fly the kolb enough. Finished the annual and flew
> it last week. I will sell it or I am going to take the engine off it and
> take the aircraft apart.
> > I am asking $10,000.00 firm! Unbelievable deal! Will start
dissasembling
> it in two weeks if no buyer!
> >
> > Robert Kearbey
> > 2690 Olive hwy
> > Oroville, Ca. 95966
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hugh" <hmhumes@attbi.com>
Thanks for info Ken,
I was reading about their experiences a few months ago. I don't remember
where I found the link but probably from somebody on this list. :-)
Here it is for all to take a look at:
http://kilocharlieaero.homestead.com/KolbinSiberia.html
Enjoy.
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb on TV
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Hi!
>
> If you get a chance to see Walking with Giants: The Grizzlies of Siberia
you'll get a chance to see a beautiful Kolb (probably a Mark III) on a
centerline float used as a transport, photo, and research platform on the
Kamchatka Peninsula in Russia. The owner/pilot is an American naturalist who
built the plane himself. Sweet!
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Mark II / 503
> Rochester MI
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
Ken,
What ch/date for grizzlies?
Bob N.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hugh" <hmhumes@attbi.com>
Right now on KCET, channel 3 where I live. Check your local PBS station.
Good luck.
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Noyer" <ronoy@shentel.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on TV
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
>
> Ken,
>
> What ch/date for grizzlies?
>
> Bob N.
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
I'm aware of the near $200 electric pumps. Was in scouting out both Harbor
Freight and Northern last week. I got on of the aluminum hand crank pumps
for $24 from Northern but I'm not sure how much it pumps per revolution of
the handle. Anybody use one of these hand crank jobs, am I going down the
wrong path? I'm trying to be frugal, some refer to that as cheap.
I might go $100 but for $200 I can rework my present fueling method.
jerb
At 10:55 AM 3/30/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
>At 10:36 AM 3/30/2003, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> >
> > > got some better ideals?
>
>Here's a fuel transfer system that I heard of...
>
>The pump is a Fill-Rite 115v unit that pumps 13 gallons per minute. These
>pumps are also available in 12 volts DC. The guy welded the frame out of 1"
>square tube, added wheels and a couple of pie tins as a spool to hold the
>ground cable and power cord. The base holds two 6.5 gallon gas cans. A
>flexible hose and a section of copper pipe are used as a pickup. Fueling
>the aircraft is easy with the 12' hose and nozzle that comes with the unit.
>The 3/4" fuel filter fitting and filter are extra.
>
>You can see a picture of it here: http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Aviation/pump.jpg
>
>These pumps are available through Northern Tool & Equipment, search for
>"Fuel Transfer Pump"
>
>http://www.NorthernTool.com/
>
>The 12 volt model (#109577) is on sale for $184.99
>The 115volt model (#109578 is on sale for $214.99
>
>They are also available through Harbor Freight, search under
>
>"Fill-Rite".
>
>http://www.harborfreight.com/
>
>The 12 volt model (45675-1VGA) is 179.99
>The 115 volt model (43459-1VGA) is $249.99 - this must be the heavy duty
>model.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Better Refueling Method Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Compressed air is probably bad and actually that had crossed my mind, I
really was thinking about using carbon dioxide or nitrogen from a high
pressure tank regulated down to maybe a pound or two.
jerb.
At 01:47 PM 3/30/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
>
>re: "danger" of using compressed air for refueling--this was
>hashed/rehashed at length a coupla years ago. For many years I
>successfully refueled my C172 and C177 using bottled compressed
>air--without even once blowing either myself or A/C into another world.
>See my short article in Ultralight Flying! 12/98.
>
>Somehow the use of either a submerged electrical pump (altho many cars
>and trucks have one, except my Toyota PU is TOG for a busted one!) or an
>external electrical pump with attendant switches/wiring engenders a
>greater danger than air. The fallicy that "compressed air contains more
>oxygen" forgets that the same air contains more nitogen, too.
>
>My ultralight has only a 5 gal tank that I'm still able to fill through
>the lift-tilt-pour system.
>
>Bob N. FF070
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Better Refueling Method Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
Coupla years ago I checked with a chem/petro engr in Baton Rouge, asking
the question about compressed air and gasoline. He quoted a stack of
refs, ending with "no problem." Also mentioned the added pressure of
nitrogen offsetting the added oxygen. And he mentioned that some older
race cars and reg. cars had used compressed air to move fuel. He used to
be on the old Fly-UL list--Charlie Breard--and is active com'l pilot and
ex-ULowner.
Since I have used air for many years, I'd appreciate knowing the danger.
Maybe we can revive that thread?
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" <peterv@etsmiami.com>
Aren't you all over-complicating this unnecessarily?
I use a simple self priming siphon tube to which I added an on-off
valve. I place the filling tank on a step-ladder, then I prime the
siphon tube to get the flow going. When the first tank is full I close
the valve, move the tube to the second tank and open the valve again.
(No need to re-prime).
Simple - cheap - compact - no cranking, and no chance of electrical
sparks.
PV
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| Subject: | For Sale - Kolb FireFly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
For Sale:
Kolb FireFly - Folding Wing Rotax 447 ~153 Hrs Wht-Red 6" Whls Brks Chute
EIS Enclosure $10,000. Money Talks - Jerry 972-517-0946 Gary 972-242-1620
N-Dallas TX jerryb@airmail.net
Note: This aircraft will be listed for sale in the April (Sun & Fun) issue
of Ultralight Flying Magazine. If your interested contact the parties
listed above. It will likely sell and I wanted list members to have first
crack at it.
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
At 10:18 PM 3/30/2003, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>
>I'm aware of the near $200 electric pumps. Was in scouting out both Harbor
>Freight and Northern last week. I got on of the aluminum hand crank pumps
>for $24 from Northern but I'm not sure how much it pumps per revolution of
>the handle. Anybody use one of these hand crank jobs, am I going down the
>wrong path? I'm trying to be frugal, some refer to that as cheap.
>I might go $100 but for $200 I can rework my present fueling method.
>jerb
When I was trying to, ahem, save money, I bought a hand-crank pump. It
didn't self-prime very well, but a little technique helped with that. But
I have to say that my tank was in my wing so I couldn't crank it and hold
the hose up there at the same time... it just got too awkward. If your
tank is easily accessbile from ground level and you can hold the hose in
one hand and have enough room to crank the handle with the other, then it's
probably doable, but I certainly didn't find it that way. The pump,
virtually brand-new, now sits un-used.
After my experience, I understood why the old (1930's and before) gas pumps
has a glass container at the top of a tall pump... you'd pump the gas up
into the container, then unhook the hose and let gravity feed it into the
gas tank. Wouldn't take two people to do it that way. You could also see
how much was in the container. If I'd had that, then I could have pumped
the fuel up, then put a valve on the end of the hose and turned it off when
I was filling the tank. That would have been better, but probably would
have cost more than an electric pump.
-- Robert
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