---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/30/03: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:59 AM - Re: Senior Kolb Pilots (woody) 2. 08:14 AM - Re: EVO/AIR (jerb) 3. 08:26 AM - Better Refueling Method Needed (jerb) 4. 08:36 AM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Cy Galley) 5. 08:37 AM - Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Fackler, Ken) 6. 08:55 AM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Robert Laird) 7. 09:19 AM - Re: Sun&Fun Freebies (Jon Croke) 8. 09:44 AM - Re: EVO/AIR (CaptainRon) 9. 09:49 AM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (herbgh@juno.com) 10. 09:56 AM - EVO/AIR Video update (Paul Petty) 11. 10:49 AM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Bob Noyer) 12. 11:31 AM - Re: one-eyed pilots (Peter Volum) 13. 01:21 PM - Mark III Classic for Sale (L. Ray Baker) 14. 01:33 PM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Eugene Zimmerman) 15. 02:03 PM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Bob Noyer) 16. 03:29 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Larry Cottrell) 17. 03:43 PM - Re: MarkIII (Larry Cottrell) 18. 04:02 PM - EVO/AIR website update (Paul Petty) 19. 06:02 PM - Kolb on TV (Fackler, Ken) 20. 06:12 PM - Re: EVO/AIR website update (Richard Pike) 21. 07:21 PM - Re: MarkIII (Larry Cottrell) 22. 07:23 PM - Re: Kolb on TV (Hugh) 23. 07:57 PM - Re: Kolb on TV (Bob Noyer) 24. 08:03 PM - Re: Kolb on TV (Hugh) 25. 08:16 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (jerb) 26. 08:22 PM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (jerb) 27. 08:50 PM - Re: Better Refueling Method Needed (Bob Noyer) 28. 09:12 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Peter Volum) 29. 09:29 PM - For Sale - Kolb FireFly (jerb) 30. 09:59 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (Robert Laird) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:03 AM PST US From: woody Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Senior Kolb Pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody A >I don't know how long I can justify keeping a plane I can't fly, so it may >be up for sale in a month or two. My flying buddies, of course, are all >saying, "No, no, wait, surely you'll recover." I hope they're right. Take one of your flying buddies up with you as a safety and see how you can fly now. If no one else can go I will drop in and do it. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:03 AM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb Very interesting. Noticed your planning on using a chain drive for the redrive. I have my doubts that will work for long but it might. Some thing will break after some hours. There are power pulses and harmonics the chain drive will be unable to absorb. If your look into a Rotax or Hirth redrive they have rubber donuts that absorb those pluses. The Challenger redrive used a cog belt. You might consider giving Jim Holbrook, one of the principles that was involved in converting a Citron auto engine from France to ultralight use. He gained a lot of knowledge from the project plus he put together a redrive that also has starter. Here's a web site about the project he was involved with and contact info. Would be worth a call. It was too bad they couldn't get it to market, I think they were on to some thing. There being the single source parts for engine parts was one of the major stumbling blocks for market acceptance. jerb http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/thunderchief.htm At 03:59 PM 3/29/03 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" > >Hi Kolbers, >Worked on the website for a couple of hours this afternoon. Weather to bad >for flying. Good news is that Charley grabbed the wrong camera bag and we >still have the digital camcorder. So tomorrow I will film a full run up of >the "Beast" and publish it to the web for all to see. Heading to the shop >tonight to work on that dad blamed starter. Started work on the direct >drive prop hub today. I noticed that the set up for a Verner is to mount >the plate directly to the airframe and isolate it at the engine. I'm >thinking that this may be the way to go if Capt'n Ron wants to really try >this out. Also I need idea's on a prop with a counter rotation to make >this thing a pusher. If any of you want to follow the progress of the >project go to www.c-gate.net/ppetty > > >pp.... >N4958P > >Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:59 AM PST US From: jerb Subject: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb I'm tired of trying to balance gas cans on the wing to refuel my plane. Any body have any experience with these rotary handle transfer pumps used in drums. How many cranks does it take to transfer 5 gals. Been considering using compressed air, or even an inexpensive 12-volt pumps that has a decent flow rate. Haven't found any that can do better than 5 gals in 10-15 minutes. Was thinking about making a wheeled cart with a fold down post with a can perch on top. Would roll up to the plane, place the tank on top and use a siphon hose. The perch would be angle do the fuel flow to one corner of the tanks as it empties. Any body got some better ideals? jerb ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:02 AM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" Do NOT use compresses air as it increases the hazards of gasoline. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerb" Subject: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb > > I'm tired of trying to balance gas cans on the wing to refuel my > plane. Any body have any experience with these rotary handle transfer > pumps used in drums. How many cranks does it take to transfer 5 > gals. Been considering using compressed air, or even an inexpensive > 12-volt pumps that has a decent flow rate. Haven't found any that can do > better than 5 gals in 10-15 minutes. Was thinking about making a wheeled > cart with a fold down post with a can perch on top. Would roll up to the > plane, place the tank on top and use a siphon hose. The perch would be > angle do the fuel flow to one corner of the tanks as it empties. Any body > got some better ideals? > jerb > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:38 AM PST US From: "Fackler, Ken" Subject: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > got some better ideals? When I was inspecting my plane prior to purchase, the guy I bought it from had a battery-operated pump. I asked, but he couldn't remember where he got it. Since then I've looked and looked and have been unable to find one. But if you can, that might be a good choice. -Ken Fackler Mark II / 503 Rochester MI ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:20 AM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird At 10:36 AM 3/30/2003, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > > got some better ideals? Here's a fuel transfer system that I heard of... The pump is a Fill-Rite 115v unit that pumps 13 gallons per minute. These pumps are also available in 12 volts DC. The guy welded the frame out of 1" square tube, added wheels and a couple of pie tins as a spool to hold the ground cable and power cord. The base holds two 6.5 gallon gas cans. A flexible hose and a section of copper pipe are used as a pickup. Fueling the aircraft is easy with the 12' hose and nozzle that comes with the unit. The 3/4" fuel filter fitting and filter are extra. You can see a picture of it here: http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Aviation/pump.jpg These pumps are available through Northern Tool & Equipment, search for "Fuel Transfer Pump" http://www.NorthernTool.com/ The 12 volt model (#109577) is on sale for $184.99 The 115volt model (#109578 is on sale for $214.99 They are also available through Harbor Freight, search under "Fill-Rite". http://www.harborfreight.com/ The 12 volt model (45675-1VGA) is 179.99 The 115 volt model (43459-1VGA) is $249.99 - this must be the heavy duty model. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:45 AM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun&Fun Freebies --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" Richard, Looking forward to meeting you at Sun n Fun, glad you are able to make it. I have added your name to the list at www.kolbpilot.com -- seems we have a pretty good group so far.. I think we still need to set a get together time for dinner or such.. maybe play it by ear. In any event I think this will be a good year....! Hope more people on the list here can make it. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Swiderski" > > I wasn't planning on going to S & F because I'm not yet up to much > standing or walking. But I found me a handicap scooter & now I plan on > being there wed thru Sat or Sun. I'll be camping in my white & green trim > enclosed trailer in the UL trailer parking. It has a RV awning & some extra > chairs, so come by & visit. If I'm not there at the time, make yourself at > home & get some shade & rest. > I have a Cub style bungie landing gear setup for any UltraStar owner who > wants to convert to a shock absorbing gear. They are free to a good home. > Also, I have a free 15 gal transluscent gas tank that fits nicely in the > back of a SlingShot or FSII. It makes a great auxillary or even primary > tank. > I will try to bring my 3 cyl Chevy Sprint Turbo conversion if you want > to check it out. > I am selling my Rotax 582 SeaDoo conversion for $2500. It has electric > start, 2.58 B Redrive, Exhaust, Altitude Compensating Carbs, & Radiator. It > is pickled in oil & has 50 Hrs. Call me by Tues & I'll bring it with me. > > Richard Swiderski > Summerfield FL > 352-307-9009 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:01 AM PST US From: "CaptainRon" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR --> Kolb-List message posted by: "CaptainRon" Finally got to see your HD beating the air. All I can say is that you have one ass kicking power plant. It looks like it will blow the rest of whats available into the margines the first time it starts flying debugged. I share your impression about the prop that you have installed. Its not enough to take the power its getting. Keep up the good work, personally I am very impressed with you two guys doing that, inclusive of the dude in the best back yard mechanic tradition who is walking around with a smoke hanging outta corner of the mouth. You got me laughing on that one. :-) Paul if you don't give up this could be the start of a revolution in power plants for Light Aircraft. An affordable real American Ass Kicking motor, can't get any better than that. :-) wish I was there to help. ==================== > http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/thunderchief.htm > > > At 03:59 PM 3/29/03 -0600, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" > > > >Hi Kolbers, > >Worked on the website for a couple of hours this afternoon. Weather to bad > >for flying. Good news is that Charley grabbed the wrong camera bag and we > >still have the digital camcorder. So tomorrow I will film a full run up of > >the "Beast" and publish it to the web for all to see. Heading to the shop > >tonight to work on that dad blamed starter. Started work on the direct > >drive prop hub today. I noticed that the set up for a Verner is to mount > >the plate directly to the airframe and isolate it at the engine. I'm > >thinking that this may be the way to go if Capt'n Ron wants to really try > >this out. Also I need idea's on a prop with a counter rotation to make > >this thing a pusher. If any of you want to follow the progress of the > >project go to www.c-gate.net/ppetty > > > > > >pp.... > >N4958P > > > >Do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump From: herbgh@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Guys I suspect that the submersible auto fuel tank pumps ,properly set up, would work. When they come out of the tank they have an intake filter, fuel quantity sender unit and the wiring. Not sure about the capacity however? Lots of pressure!! Herb in Ky On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:36:41 -0500 "Fackler, Ken" writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > > > got some better ideals? > > When I was inspecting my plane prior to purchase, the guy I bought > it from > had a battery-operated pump. I asked, but he couldn't remember where > he got > it. Since then I've looked and looked and have been unable to find > one. But > if you can, that might be a good choice. > > -Ken Fackler > Mark II / 503 > Rochester MI > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:35 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR Video update CLICK_BELOW, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Kolbers, I have uploaded the new video of the "Beast" to the web. Go to www.c-gate.net/ppetty or click right here www.c-gate.net/ppetty/TestRun032303.wmv it took me about 12 minutes to download. For those of you on cable or DSL it should load fast!! It's 25 seconds long and 1.5 meg in size. The video shows a warm start with a run up to 3500 RPM. I ran it today for about 30 minutes @ 3500 RPM and then did some WOT from idle and really romped on it and everything worked ok. I think I am going to move it over to a bigger trailer and run it up to 4000 RPM and let it run for a hour next run. Well that's all for now off to the airport for a lesson. 14 knot headwinds here today. Should be interesting! Later pp.... N4958P Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:03 AM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer re: "danger" of using compressed air for refueling--this was hashed/rehashed at length a coupla years ago. For many years I successfully refueled my C172 and C177 using bottled compressed air--without even once blowing either myself or A/C into another world. See my short article in Ultralight Flying! 12/98. Somehow the use of either a submerged electrical pump (altho many cars and trucks have one, except my Toyota PU is TOG for a busted one!) or an external electrical pump with attendant switches/wiring engenders a greater danger than air. The fallicy that "compressed air contains more oxygen" forgets that the same air contains more nitogen, too. My ultralight has only a 5 gal tank that I'm still able to fill through the lift-tilt-pour system. Bob N. FF070 do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:23 AM PST US From: "Peter Volum" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: one-eyed pilots --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" Ken, I have some personal experience on this topic, as I'm legally blind from my left eye as a result of an accident as a child that led to a detached retina. After a couple of operations lateral vision was recovered in my bad eye, but what little vision was recovered straight ahead, is blurry and "not in the right place"(i.e, I see double). The fact that this happened to me as a child may be a factor in my having become accustomed to it, but the truth is, it doesn't bother me one iota. I'm not conscious of the double image. My brain has simply learned to ignore the "ghost". The first time I applied for my FAA medical, they sent me to a specialist for additional testing to ensure I still had depth perception. As I was able to prove this satisfactorily, I was approved by the FAA doctor. Since then, every physical been pretty much routine. My good eye gets tested and I'm asked if my condition has changed. End of story. At least... for flying as a private pilot. On the practical side it really doesn't make any difference either. Landing approaches, judgments of distance and speed, seeing other traffic, etc... are in no way hindered by the fact that I only have vision from one eye. Fortunately for me (and for thousands of other pilots out there), the FAA is apparently aware of this. In my opinion, if and when you feel comfortable enough to drive a car safely, you will be just as capable of flying your Kolb. (Squeezed in the K word just in time!) Peter Volum On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:49:11 -0500 "Fackler, Ken" writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > > An interesting thread, yet one I've read with some very mixed and > very > interesting emotions. Here's why. > > On Feb 23, I turned 46, hardly a senior. However, on that day I also > woke up > with double vision. After some time in the hospital and many tests, > most of > them unpleasant, it seems I've experienced a "neurological event." > Cranial > nerve 6, which among other things partially controls the movement of > my > right eye, isn't working properly. The condition is called palsy. > Cute. > > I can no longer see properly out of both eyes together and am forced > to > cover my right eye in order to be able to do little unimportant > things like > walk or fix a meal. There's no treatment other than, to quote a 60's > tune, > Wishin' and Hopin'. The docs say the instance of recovery is quite > high but > that it can take a very long time, as in months. > > The jury is currently out on whether I'll be able to fly again or if > flying > with one eye is an option. I'm told that Wiley Post could only see > from one > eye. My last flight instructor thought it would be possible but > would > require relearning some things. My plan is to hire him and rent a > Cessna and > do some pattern work to see how that goes. But in the meantime, the > Kolb is > effectively grounded. (Whew, back on topic!) > > I don't know how long I can justify keeping a plane I can't fly, so > it may > be up for sale in a month or two. My flying buddies, of course, are > all > saying, "No, no, wait, surely you'll recover." I hope they're > right. > > -Ken "One Eye" Fackler > Mark II / 503 > Rochester MI ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:21:00 PM PST US From: "L. Ray Baker" Subject: Kolb-List: Mark III Classic for Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "L. Ray Baker" Due to personal circumstances I am selling my pride and joy. We are in the process of flying off the 40 hour phase 1 tests. KOLB Mark III N629RB Details. Pictures at Rotax 912 with ground adjustable IVO 3 bladed prop.(14.4 hours and climbing) Lang L-693, full swivel and steerable tailwheel. BRS - 1050 Cannister chute. Strobe, (Kuntzleman) mounted on horizontal stabilizer. Landing Light Aux Fuel pump. Grand Rapids EIS with VSI. Kuntzleman hotbox. ICOM 4A radio, Pro Comm helmet, Avecom headset AC 200 PNR. ELT, Ameri-king AK 450. Wheel Fairings. Paint (Poly-Tone) is white with green trim and gold stripping. Total cost of materials, freight, taxes, airworthiness . $31K +, (I have the invoices to prove it) Time to build 2000 hours (very slow builder) Detailed builders log cross referenced to pictures of building process. Currently flying off 40 hour phase 1 flight testing. Located at Flying 10 Airport (0J8), Archer, FL (SW of Gainesville, FL) Price $29,000 Ray Baker 4824 NW 75th Road Gainesville, FL 32653-1189 352-264-8148 rbaker-@atlantic.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:33:39 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman Bob Noyer wrote: snip > My ultralight has only a 5 gal tank that I'm still able to fill through > the lift-tilt-pour system. > > Bob N. FF070 And how old are you, you young wipper schnapper? Just you wait till you ez ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:22 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer Wait till what? Did you sign "ez" fer yer initials, or meaning "easy"? ez fer you to say b 1923, you figger it Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:26 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" If you go to a fuel dealer, (oil company) they have both battery and electric pumps for sale. I have a battery powered one that I put on a 15 gal plastic barrel that is mounted on wheels. I just roll it up to the plane, hook the clamps on the plane battery, connect the grounding cable and fill away. It has enough force that it will mix the oil with no problem. It is worth the price that you will have to pay. My guess is somewhere in the area of 250.00 Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fackler, Ken" Subject: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > > got some better ideals? > > When I was inspecting my plane prior to purchase, the guy I bought it from > had a battery-operated pump. I asked, but he couldn't remember where he got > it. Since then I've looked and looked and have been unable to find one. But > if you can, that might be a good choice. > > -Ken Fackler > Mark II / 503 > Rochester MI > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:43:04 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MarkIII --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" Hi, Thanks for the pictures. I am going to try to arrange financing, Keep me posted if anything comes up Larry Cottrell Klamath Falls, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Kearbey" Subject: Kolb-List: MarkIII > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Kearbey" > > > To anyone interested. > I have a Kolb MarkIII that we built about 5 years ago. It has about 130 hours on it, is in good shape, no accident history. Has a 582 with 3 blade ivo electric prop, com radio with intercom. > I need to sell it and get it out of my hangar. I need more room for my helicopter. I just don't fly the kolb enough. Finished the annual and flew it last week. I will sell it or I am going to take the engine off it and take the aircraft apart. > I am asking $10,000.00 firm! Unbelievable deal! Will start dissasembling it in two weeks if no buyer! > > Robert Kearbey > 2690 Olive hwy > Oroville, Ca. 95966 > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:20 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR website update SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_OE, USER_IN_WHITELIST) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" To windy to fly today:-( Froze my tail off riding the Buell to the airport and back. Added four new pages to the website www.c-gate.net/ppetty Headed to the shop for more R&D............. pp.... N4958P Do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:46 PM PST US From: "Fackler, Ken" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb on TV --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" Hi! If you get a chance to see Walking with Giants: The Grizzlies of Siberia you'll get a chance to see a beautiful Kolb (probably a Mark III) on a centerline float used as a transport, photo, and research platform on the Kamchatka Peninsula in Russia. The owner/pilot is an American naturalist who built the plane himself. Sweet! -Ken Fackler Mark II / 503 Rochester MI ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:48 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EVO/AIR website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Looking at your web site (very good!) and your reduction drive - good setup for determining reduction ratio, prop pitch, diameter, etc. You probably already know this, but in flight your greatest loads on the reduction system will be gyroscopic. Every movement of the aircraft will make the prop into a big gyroscope that will try to reconfigure whatever it is mounted to. Years ago when I was just getting started, I mounted a direct drive prop to the end of the crank on a Yamaha CT-1 175cc enduro engine. Since I didn't know anything, I called Jack McCornack for advice (since he had just flown a Pterodactyl Fledge with a direct drive Sachs engine across the US, I figured he might know something) and he told me that for a 36" wooden prop, the Yamaha shaft needed to be at least 1" OD, or I could expect problems in turbulence. Was he right? I have no idea. Just passing it on. Keep us posted, your project is fascinating. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 06:03 PM 3/30/03 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" > >To windy to fly today:-( >Froze my tail off riding the Buell to the airport and back. Added four new >pages to the website www.c-gate.net/ppetty >Headed to the shop for more R&D............. > >pp.... >N4958P > >Do not archive > > Help Stop Spam! Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life. Thanks! And have a blessed day. rp ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:45 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MarkIII --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" OPPS, disregard. do not archive! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MarkIII > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" > > Hi, > Thanks for the pictures. I am going to try to arrange financing, Keep me > posted if anything comes up > Larry Cottrell > Klamath Falls, Oregon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Kearbey" > To: > Subject: Kolb-List: MarkIII > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Kearbey" > > > > > > To anyone interested. > > I have a Kolb MarkIII that we built about 5 years ago. It has about 130 > hours on it, is in good shape, no accident history. Has a 582 with 3 blade > ivo electric prop, com radio with intercom. > > I need to sell it and get it out of my hangar. I need more room for my > helicopter. I just don't fly the kolb enough. Finished the annual and flew > it last week. I will sell it or I am going to take the engine off it and > take the aircraft apart. > > I am asking $10,000.00 firm! Unbelievable deal! Will start dissasembling > it in two weeks if no buyer! > > > > Robert Kearbey > > 2690 Olive hwy > > Oroville, Ca. 95966 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:24 PM PST US From: "Hugh" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on TV --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hugh" Thanks for info Ken, I was reading about their experiences a few months ago. I don't remember where I found the link but probably from somebody on this list. :-) Here it is for all to take a look at: http://kilocharlieaero.homestead.com/KolbinSiberia.html Enjoy. Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fackler, Ken" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb on TV > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > Hi! > > If you get a chance to see Walking with Giants: The Grizzlies of Siberia you'll get a chance to see a beautiful Kolb (probably a Mark III) on a centerline float used as a transport, photo, and research platform on the Kamchatka Peninsula in Russia. The owner/pilot is an American naturalist who built the plane himself. Sweet! > > -Ken Fackler > Mark II / 503 > Rochester MI > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:17 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on TV --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer Ken, What ch/date for grizzlies? Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:27 PM PST US From: "Hugh" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on TV --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hugh" Right now on KCET, channel 3 where I live. Check your local PBS station. Good luck. Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Noyer" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on TV > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer > > Ken, > > What ch/date for grizzlies? > > Bob N. > > do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:40 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb I'm aware of the near $200 electric pumps. Was in scouting out both Harbor Freight and Northern last week. I got on of the aluminum hand crank pumps for $24 from Northern but I'm not sure how much it pumps per revolution of the handle. Anybody use one of these hand crank jobs, am I going down the wrong path? I'm trying to be frugal, some refer to that as cheap. I might go $100 but for $200 I can rework my present fueling method. jerb At 10:55 AM 3/30/03 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird > >At 10:36 AM 3/30/2003, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" > > > > > got some better ideals? > >Here's a fuel transfer system that I heard of... > >The pump is a Fill-Rite 115v unit that pumps 13 gallons per minute. These >pumps are also available in 12 volts DC. The guy welded the frame out of 1" >square tube, added wheels and a couple of pie tins as a spool to hold the >ground cable and power cord. The base holds two 6.5 gallon gas cans. A >flexible hose and a section of copper pipe are used as a pickup. Fueling >the aircraft is easy with the 12' hose and nozzle that comes with the unit. >The 3/4" fuel filter fitting and filter are extra. > >You can see a picture of it here: http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Aviation/pump.jpg > >These pumps are available through Northern Tool & Equipment, search for >"Fuel Transfer Pump" > >http://www.NorthernTool.com/ > >The 12 volt model (#109577) is on sale for $184.99 >The 115volt model (#109578 is on sale for $214.99 > >They are also available through Harbor Freight, search under > >"Fill-Rite". > >http://www.harborfreight.com/ > >The 12 volt model (45675-1VGA) is 179.99 >The 115 volt model (43459-1VGA) is $249.99 - this must be the heavy duty >model. > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:19 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb Compressed air is probably bad and actually that had crossed my mind, I really was thinking about using carbon dioxide or nitrogen from a high pressure tank regulated down to maybe a pound or two. jerb. At 01:47 PM 3/30/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer > >re: "danger" of using compressed air for refueling--this was >hashed/rehashed at length a coupla years ago. For many years I >successfully refueled my C172 and C177 using bottled compressed >air--without even once blowing either myself or A/C into another world. >See my short article in Ultralight Flying! 12/98. > >Somehow the use of either a submerged electrical pump (altho many cars >and trucks have one, except my Toyota PU is TOG for a busted one!) or an >external electrical pump with attendant switches/wiring engenders a >greater danger than air. The fallicy that "compressed air contains more >oxygen" forgets that the same air contains more nitogen, too. > >My ultralight has only a 5 gal tank that I'm still able to fill through >the lift-tilt-pour system. > >Bob N. FF070 > >do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:48 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better Refueling Method Needed --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer Coupla years ago I checked with a chem/petro engr in Baton Rouge, asking the question about compressed air and gasoline. He quoted a stack of refs, ending with "no problem." Also mentioned the added pressure of nitrogen offsetting the added oxygen. And he mentioned that some older race cars and reg. cars had used compressed air to move fuel. He used to be on the old Fly-UL list--Charlie Breard--and is active com'l pilot and ex-ULowner. Since I have used air for many years, I'd appreciate knowing the danger. Maybe we can revive that thread? Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 09:12:33 PM PST US From: "Peter Volum" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Peter Volum" Aren't you all over-complicating this unnecessarily? I use a simple self priming siphon tube to which I added an on-off valve. I place the filling tank on a step-ladder, then I prime the siphon tube to get the flow going. When the first tank is full I close the valve, move the tube to the second tank and open the valve again. (No need to re-prime). Simple - cheap - compact - no cranking, and no chance of electrical sparks. PV ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:13 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Kolb-List: For Sale - Kolb FireFly --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb For Sale: Kolb FireFly - Folding Wing Rotax 447 ~153 Hrs Wht-Red 6" Whls Brks Chute EIS Enclosure $10,000. Money Talks - Jerry 972-517-0946 Gary 972-242-1620 N-Dallas TX jerryb@airmail.net Note: This aircraft will be listed for sale in the April (Sun & Fun) issue of Ultralight Flying Magazine. If your interested contact the parties listed above. It will likely sell and I wanted list members to have first crack at it. Jerry ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:21 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird At 10:18 PM 3/30/2003, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb > >I'm aware of the near $200 electric pumps. Was in scouting out both Harbor >Freight and Northern last week. I got on of the aluminum hand crank pumps >for $24 from Northern but I'm not sure how much it pumps per revolution of >the handle. Anybody use one of these hand crank jobs, am I going down the >wrong path? I'm trying to be frugal, some refer to that as cheap. >I might go $100 but for $200 I can rework my present fueling method. >jerb When I was trying to, ahem, save money, I bought a hand-crank pump. It didn't self-prime very well, but a little technique helped with that. But I have to say that my tank was in my wing so I couldn't crank it and hold the hose up there at the same time... it just got too awkward. If your tank is easily accessbile from ground level and you can hold the hose in one hand and have enough room to crank the handle with the other, then it's probably doable, but I certainly didn't find it that way. The pump, virtually brand-new, now sits un-used. After my experience, I understood why the old (1930's and before) gas pumps has a glass container at the top of a tall pump... you'd pump the gas up into the container, then unhook the hose and let gravity feed it into the gas tank. Wouldn't take two people to do it that way. You could also see how much was in the container. If I'd had that, then I could have pumped the fuel up, then put a valve on the end of the hose and turned it off when I was filling the tank. That would have been better, but probably would have cost more than an electric pump. -- Robert do not archive