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1. 12:09 AM - Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago (jerb)
2. 12:23 AM - Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago (jerb)
3. 12:25 AM - Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago (jerb)
4. 05:12 AM - 582 consumption (Jim Gerken)
5. 07:16 AM - Re: Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago (Larry Bourne)
6. 07:51 AM - Re: fuel burn 582 (Richard Pike)
7. 09:03 AM - Chicago Meigs Field Closed by Covert Operation (jerb)
8. 10:18 AM - Re: Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago (CaptainRon)
9. 12:27 PM - Re: fuel burn 582 (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
10. 12:42 PM - Re: Sun&Fun Freebies (Bruce Harrison)
11. 04:19 PM - Re: HVLP PAINTING SYSTEM!!! (Gary robert voigt)
12. 04:41 PM - Re: fuel burn 582 (Larry Cottrell)
13. 04:41 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (ZepRep251@aol.com)
14. 04:45 PM - Poly Spray - Cage (Mike Pierzina)
15. 04:48 PM - Re: fuel burn 582 (Dave Rains)
16. 05:49 PM - Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump (jerb)
17. 05:51 PM - Re: fuel burn 582 (FIXERJONES@aol.com)
18. 06:12 PM - Sun n Fun, HVLP paint sys (SGreenpg@aol.com)
19. 07:01 PM - Re: Sun n Fun, HVLP paint sys (jerb)
20. 09:36 PM - Matronics ISP Upgrade COMPLETED! (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
From the Rec.Aviation.Pilots list.
Here is web site where you can look up information on contacting your
representatives.
http://www.meigsaction.net/html/reps.htm
An here you can write the Mayor:
http://www.ci.chi.il.us/Mayor/mayorfeedback.html
Articles in the Chicago Newspapers:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/commentary/cst-edt-edits01.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-030401meigs,0,6654607.story?col
l=chi-news-hed
A interesting rumor:
Not long ago Mayor Daley moved into a new luxury home in Dearborn Station, a
gentrified residential area just adjacent to Meigs.
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Kolb List <kolb-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
I thought it was a April Fools joke. Well it looks like the report on
Chicago Meigs field is true. Below is the AOPA link with a report. Also
Aero-News.
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html
http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=8844
This is just the beginning of abuse I expected would occur with Home Land
Security. Who is watching the guards dogs. If we stand silent we condone
this type of action. Speak up now or expect to loose more freedom and
liberty. Contact the FAA, and your national representatives an express
your protest over the abuse and hold them accountable. Looks like were
going to have our own battles here at home to fight.
jerb
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Kolb List <kolb-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
From the Rec.Aviation.Pilots list.
Here is web site where you can look up information on contacting your
representatives.
http://www.meigsaction.net/html/reps.htm
An here you can write the Mayor:
http://www.ci.chi.il.us/Mayor/mayorfeedback.html
Articles in the Chicago Newspapers:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/commentary/cst-edt-edits01.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-030401meigs,0,6654607.story?col
l=chi-news-hed
A interesting rumor:
Not long ago Mayor Daley moved into a new luxury home in Dearborn Station, a
gentrified residential area just adjacent to Meigs.
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04/02/2003 07:08:07 AM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" <gerken@us.ibm.com>
>Time: 09:28:43 PM PST US
>From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>Subject: Kolb-List: fuel burn 582
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>Gang,
> I have agreed to buy Robert Kearbey's Mark III. I will be flying it
home
>on the 19th. It is a 193 mile trip. Can someone tell me what the fuel burn
>per hour is for the 582? It only has the two stock tanks for a total of 10
>gal. I need to plan my stops.
> I can see why he was allowing the Mark III to wither on the vine, he
has
>a really sweet Rotoway Chopper for a new toy.
>do not archive
>thanks
>Larry
Depends on the speed you choose. Max consumption is around 7.5 - 8 gallons
per hour. You will probably cruise at a reduced power setting for noise
and comfort, you can figure 5 gph at cruise. You will probably do a little
better than that at 5800 RPM, or about 60-65 ias.
Jim Gerken
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| Subject: | Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Daley has been after Meigs for years. Hopefully he's now cooked his own
goose, and maybe this will end his political career. I consider this to be
a criminal act, and he should be prosecuted. I'm surprised at the
negativity on the one report...................surely the field can be
re-paved and re-opened. You're right...............looks like we'll have
our own battles to fight, here at home. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>
> I thought it was a April Fools joke. Well it looks like the report on
> Chicago Meigs field is true. Below is the AOPA link with a report. Also
> Aero-News.
> http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html
> http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=8844
>
> This is just the beginning of abuse I expected would occur with Home Land
> Security. Who is watching the guards dogs. If we stand silent we condone
> this type of action. Speak up now or expect to loose more freedom and
> liberty. Contact the FAA, and your national representatives an express
> your protest over the abuse and hold them accountable. Looks like were
> going to have our own battles here at home to fight.
> jerb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel burn 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Don't know about a 582 yet, but the 532 was a function of RPM.
At 5,000-5,200 RPM it would burn around 3.5 GPH up to
around 5 GPH at 5,700 RPM.
You will need to decide how fast is most efficient.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:28 PM 4/1/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
>Gang,
> I have agreed to buy Robert Kearbey's Mark III. I will be flying it home
>on the 19th. It is a 193 mile trip. Can someone tell me what the fuel burn
>per hour is for the 582? It only has the two stock tanks for a total of 10
>gal. I need to plan my stops.
> I can see why he was allowing the Mark III to wither on the vine, he has
>a really sweet Rotoway Chopper for a new toy.
>
>do not archive
>
>thanks
>Larry
>
>
Help Stop Spam!
Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you
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Thanks! And have a blessed day.
rp
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| Subject: | Chicago Meigs Field Closed by Covert Operation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
I thought it was a April Fools joke. Well it looks like the report on
Chicago Meigs field is true. Below is the AOPA link with a report. Also
Aero-News.
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html
http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=8844
This is just the beginning of abuse I expected would occur with Home Land
Security. Who is watching the guards dogs. If we stand silent we condone
this type of action. Speak up now or expect to loose more freedom and
liberty. Contact the FAA, and your national representatives an express
your protest over the abuse and hold those responsible accountable.
Looks like were going to have our own battles here at home to fight.
jerb
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| Subject: | Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <captainron@theriver.com>
I have always wanted to fly into Meigs field, and to have that scoundral
Daley userp his official powers to deny all of us that chance, is that much
more negative of a reflection on the Left. I wonder if any Kolbs ever flew
into, out of of Meigs?
He did what he did in the best Clinton tradition, malevolent, contemptous,
and malicious. I guess he figured that while the country is distracted in a
war in a far away place, he can freely prosecute his own act of terrorism
against american aviation. I wonder if that incompetant organization called
the FAA will do anything about that. I expect no more than the usual hand
wringing, and empty words from those constricting bafoons.
========================
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Daley has been after Meigs for years. Hopefully he's now cooked his own
> goose, and maybe this will end his political career. I consider this to be
> a criminal act, and he should be prosecuted. I'm surprised at the
> negativity on the one report...................surely the field can be
> re-paved and re-opened. You're right...............looks like we'll have
> our own battles to fight, here at home. Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
> To: <FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: UL: Terrorist Hits Chicago
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>>
>> I thought it was a April Fools joke. Well it looks like the report on
>> Chicago Meigs field is true. Below is the AOPA link with a report. Also
>> Aero-News.
>> http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html
>> http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=8844
>>
>> This is just the beginning of abuse I expected would occur with Home Land
>> Security. Who is watching the guards dogs. If we stand silent we condone
>> this type of action. Speak up now or expect to loose more freedom and
>> liberty. Contact the FAA, and your national representatives an express
>> your protest over the abuse and hold them accountable. Looks like were
>> going to have our own battles here at home to fight.
>> jerb
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel burn 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Hi Larry,
My MK III with a recently overhauled (25 hrs) 582 burns 5 gph at 5700
rpm which gives me a speed of 65 mph.
AzDave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: fuel burn 582
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
> Gang,
> I have agreed to buy Robert Kearbey's Mark III. I will be flying it
home
> on the 19th. It is a 193 mile trip. Can someone tell me what the fuel burn
> per hour is for the 582? It only has the two stock tanks for a total of 10
> gal. I need to plan my stops.
> I can see why he was allowing the Mark III to wither on the vine, he
has
> a really sweet Rotoway Chopper for a new toy.
>
> do not archive
>
> thanks
> Larry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun&Fun Freebies |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
Hope to see you at Sun N Fun. I'd like to have a look at that fuel tank--it
may inspire me. I'll be there Fri-SAT-SUN.
>From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun&Fun Freebies
>Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:57:39 -0500
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
><swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
>
>Kolbers,
>
> I wasn't planning on going to S & F because I'm not yet up to much
>standing or walking. But I found me a handicap scooter & now I plan on
>being there wed thru Sat or Sun. I'll be camping in my white & green trim
>enclosed trailer in the UL trailer parking. It has a RV awning & some
>extra
>chairs, so come by & visit. If I'm not there at the time, make yourself
>at
>home & get some shade & rest.
> I have a Cub style bungie landing gear setup for any UltraStar owner
>who
>wants to convert to a shock absorbing gear. They are free to a good home.
> Also, I have a free 15 gal transluscent gas tank that fits nicely in
>the
>back of a SlingShot or FSII. It makes a great auxillary or even primary
>tank.
> I will try to bring my 3 cyl Chevy Sprint Turbo conversion if you want
>to check it out.
> I am selling my Rotax 582 SeaDoo conversion for $2500. It has
>electric
>start, 2.58 B Redrive, Exhaust, Altitude Compensating Carbs, & Radiator.
>It
>is pickled in oil & has 50 Hrs. Call me by Tues & I'll bring it with me.
>
>Richard Swiderski
>Summerfield FL
>352-307-9009
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: HVLP PAINTING SYSTEM!!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
thanks. so much for the info.
Gary r. voigt
Ian Heritch wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ian Heritch" <iheritch@satx.rr.com>
>
> Gary, I am an amateur but nevertheless thought the equipment was good
> quality. If Jim and Dondi sell it, it's quality. My only beef was the
> length of the hoses, they weren't long enough to get the machine outside in
> truly fresh air. They may have now added a large diameter fresh air supply
> hose. I think its an option.
>
> My first paint job generates lots of nice comments.
>
> Ian Heritch
> San Antonio, TX
> Slingshot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary robert voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: HVLP PAINTING SYSTEM!!!
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt"
> <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
> >
> > Hello guys, i don't want to get this into a full discussion so keep
> > it short & sweet... i would like to know how many of you have used the
> > "axis" SP 2003 painting system by axis and sold by aircraft technical
> > support. tell me what you like about the system and dislikes if any.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Gary r. voigt
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel burn 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: fuel burn 582
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Don't know about a 582 yet, but the 532 was a function of RPM.
> At 5,000-5,200 RPM it would burn around 3.5 GPH up to
> around 5 GPH at 5,700 RPM.
> You will need to decide how fast is most efficient.
Thanks to all who replied, It is enough for a me to plan my trip.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
Find your pump at a Farm & Fleet store
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| Subject: | Poly Spray - Cage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
Cage & Wings left to Poly Spray , and then I'll FINALLY be ready for
color coats....While I was spraying my cage I was wondering about the INSIDE.....I
don't really want to spray my primer epoxy "silver", but it looks like it
would need the UV protection inside too.....
What did some of you guys do....
To spray or not to spray ?
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN - FSII
---
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
Figure on 4.3 per hour at 5600 rpm. Of course that's my engine, at my field elevation,
at my ambient temps, do da, do da----
do not archive
Dave Rains
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Cottrell [SMTP:lcottrel@kfalls.net]
Subject: Kolb-List: fuel burn 582
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Gang,
I have agreed to buy Robert Kearbey's Mark III. I will be flying it home
on the 19th. It is a 193 mile trip. Can someone tell me what the fuel burn
per hour is for the 582? It only has the two stock tanks for a total of 10
gal. I need to plan my stops.
I can see why he was allowing the Mark III to wither on the vine, he has
a really sweet Rotoway Chopper for a new toy.
do not archive
thanks
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Better fueling option: battery-operated pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
I can find all kinds of expensive gas pumps ($200 up), I'm looking for
something inexpensive. Some use the term cheap less than $100. What do
you have in mind?
jerb
At 07:41 PM 4/2/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
>
>Find your pump at a Farm & Fleet store
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel burn 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: FIXERJONES@aol.com
anyone out there know where i can obtain owners manual/info/construction
info/
construction picts on a 1986 kolb twinstar i recently aquired? my first kolb&
wow, i like it. it has 50 hrs tt since built. i got 8 hrs in it so far& it
looks like a love affair!
moved up from an eagle (for sale) steve jones,,,fixerjones@aol.com
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| Subject: | Sun n Fun, HVLP paint sys |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com
Kolb Gang,
I have made the decision not to fly down to S&F due to a bad weather forecast
for the return trip. I sat in Leichfield, KY for 3 days on my return trip
from Oshkosh 2001 and it took 4 days to get home from S&F last year so I look
very closely at the forecast for the return trip now.
I am eager to here a report from the Kolb camp at S&F, the new firefly is
beautiful but I haven't seen it in the air.
Whoever was asking about the axis HVLP system, I give it a thumbs up.
Steven Green
N58SG
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| Subject: | Re: Sun n Fun, HVLP paint sys |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Now you did it, you let the Kolb out of the bag!
jerb
At 09:11 PM 4/2/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com
>
>
>Kolb Gang,
>
>I have made the decision not to fly down to S&F due to a bad weather forecast
>for the return trip. I sat in Leichfield, KY for 3 days on my return trip
>from Oshkosh 2001 and it took 4 days to get home from S&F last year so I look
>very closely at the forecast for the return trip now.
>
>I am eager to here a report from the Kolb camp at S&F, the new firefly is
>beautiful but I haven't seen it in the air.
>
>Whoever was asking about the axis HVLP system, I give it a thumbs up.
>
>Steven Green
>N58SG
>
>
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