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1. 03:02 AM - Wheel Base (Larry Bourne)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: Wheel Base (Richard Pike)
3. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: first flight details (FRED2319@aol.com)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: first flight (Airgriff2@aol.com)
5. 08:10 AM - Patriotic Kolb Fire Fly (Speed) (dama)
6. 08:13 AM - Re: Wheel Base (Larry Bourne)
7. 01:11 PM - first flight details (Ken Korenek)
8. 01:52 PM - Looking for a Mark III or Kolbra (Alderson, James)
9. 01:59 PM - Poly Spray "Cage Area" (Mike Pierzina)
10. 02:18 PM - Re: first flight details (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
11. 02:27 PM - Re: Poly Spray "Cage Area" (Richard Pike)
12. 03:31 PM - Re: Poly Spray "Cage Area" (John Hauck)
13. 04:04 PM - Tuning the EIS for a 582 (Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious)
14. 07:02 PM - Re: Poly Spray "Cage Area" (John Cooley)
15. 08:17 PM - Re: Tuning the EIS for a 582 (Richard Pike)
16. 08:49 PM - [ Don Gherardini ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I need to know exactly how wide the wheels of a Mk III are, from outside edge of
tire, to outside edge of tire. Anyone got their plane handy ?? I need to know
early this morning. Urgent. Thanks.................. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Spam, wheel width, -sheesh- some people sure are a lot of trouble - <grin>
Measuring my semi worn out 15x6.00x6 Carlisle tires, the wheel width is 5
1/2" from outside edge to outside edge.
The width of the wheel base is 76" from outside edge to outside edge, just
in case that was the real question you were asking...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 03:02 AM 4/12/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>I need to know exactly how wide the wheels of a Mk III are, from outside
>edge of tire, to outside edge of tire. Anyone got their plane handy ?? I
>need to know early this
>morning. Urgent. Thanks.................. Lar.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
>www.gogittum.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: first flight details |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com
Hi Gang thanks for the congrats. Here are some details. First I live in
Findlay Ohio and we have 5 mark2 and mark 3 in Findlay. my plane has 582 B
drive 3blade CGS wood prop. nothing fancy.
First flt went well off in about 200 ft. Eng. went to 6500 in WOT in climb.
flew straight at cruse. At 6000 it was showing 80mph.dont know if that was a
true reading but I wont change anything. On landing I was making a 180 on
grass and put it up on the nose. Had about 30 spectators. Only other prob.
was the flaps lowered to middle notch during take off. did it on second TO.
Was wired up on 3rd 4th 5th 6th don't know yet what to do about that. thank
again guys and good luck with your planes.
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Congratulations on your first flight, Fred. What a feeling huh? Hope you
have many hrs. of safe and enjoyable flying ahead.
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Patriotic Kolb Fire Fly (Speed) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
I can personally attest to the speed of the RW&B Firefly. I was in the Sun n
Fun pattern hogging the inside lane when John scoots by on the left. He
paused for an minute and must have thought "forget this...he's too slow" and
dove below me. I was probably only doing 55mph but I'm sure the FF could
have left me in the dust if we both decided to go all out.
Kip
503 FSII
do not archive
http://www.springeraviation.net/
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From: <FIXERJONES@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Patriotic Kolb Fire Fly
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: FIXERJONES@aol.com
>
> john h, no doubt in your claim,,just
varafication..i
> didn't think or know the yes my winter asi is a venturi! as for the
> gps,,the ole days are great as are the gps of today, aforadable &
accurate,
> i'm a new pilot (1999) & havin fun with all aspects of flight & flyin&
> building, isn't that what it's all about? :-) oh yea, my newly accuried
> twinstar /503/ is a blast to fly,,what fun
> sorry if you took it the wrong way,,didn't mean it that way,just never
> thought it could go so fast!
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Trouble ?? You should've talked to my parents - they'd really have given
you an earful. 76" is the one I want. Looks like I go for a drive
today. Thanks. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wheel Base
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Spam, wheel width, -sheesh- some people sure are a lot of trouble - <grin>
>
> Measuring my semi worn out 15x6.00x6 Carlisle tires, the wheel width is 5
> 1/2" from outside edge to outside edge.
>
> The width of the wheel base is 76" from outside edge to outside edge, just
> in case that was the real question you were asking...
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> At 03:02 AM 4/12/03 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> >I need to know exactly how wide the wheels of a Mk III are, from outside
> >edge of tire, to outside edge of tire. Anyone got their plane handy ??
I
> >need to know early this
> >morning. Urgent. Thanks.................. Lar.
> >
> >Larry Bourne
> >Palm Springs, CA
> >Kolb Mk III - Vamoose
> >www.gogittum.com
> >
> >
>
>
> Help Stop Spam!
> Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you
> forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life.
> Thanks! And have a blessed day.
> rp
>
>
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| Subject: | first flight details |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com>
FRED2319@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com
>
> On landing I was making a 180 on grass and put it up on the nose. Had about 30
> spectators.
There's a guy named "Murphy" who wrote some laws about stuff like that.
You'll only do embarrasing thinks in front of people, never when you're by
yourself.
I bent the gear when landing in front of 10 people watching me, and like
you, I put it over on the nose with about 30 watching (and pointing). Only
problem then was that when she went over, the wheels rolled up on the wheel
pants (adjusted incorrectly) and destroyed them. That time, more than my
pride was damaged.
So, even tho it doesn't seem like it, those things really do happen to all
of us- sooner or later...
--
Do Not Archive
*********************
Ken W. Korenek
4906 Oak Springs Drive
Arlington, Texas 76016
817-572-6832 voice
817-572-6842 fax
817-657-6500 cell
817-483-8054 home
ken-foi@attbi.com
Kolb FireStar II, "My Mistress"
N104KK
Rotax 503, Oil Injected
3 Blade Powerfin
http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot/TX_files/image019.jpg
Six Chuter SR7-XL "Red Baron"
Powered Parachute
Rotax 582, Oil Injected
3 Blade PowerFin
http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot/TX_files/image021.jpg
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| Subject: | Looking for a Mark III or Kolbra |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Alderson, James" <James_Alderson@jdedwards.com>
Hello all, I sold my Firestar II last week and as I only sold it to get a
two place, I would like to stay with the Kolb line. I am looking for a Mark
III in the 14K range. I am located in North Carolina and would really like
to find something within a 5 hour flight back here so I could do it in a day
with a buddy of mine. I know of one that is in South Carolina, but I wasn't
interested in it but the guy who has it is a very nice guy, helpful beyond
the word.
If you have one, or know of one, let me know. Even if you know of something
other than a Kolb but is a two place, let me know please. I truely can't
afford to go over 14K. Thanks.
James Alderson (Former Firestar II owner)
Kolb FSII 503 EIS BRS 34 Hours
Charlotte NC
http://www.shutterfly.com/os.jsp?i=67b0de21b336399b2568
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| Subject: | Poly Spray "Cage Area" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
I never got any replys on this message ...
everybody disappeared to Sun & Fun......
So I pulled it from the archives and posted it again...
Gotta Fly...
Mike
Message 14 ____________________________________
Time: 04:45:57 PM PST US
From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Poly Spray - Cage
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
Cage & Wings left to Poly Spray , and then I'll FINALLY be ready for
color coats....While I was spraying my cage I was wondering about the Fabric INSIDE.....I
don't really want to spray my primer epoxy "silver", but it looks like it
would need the UV protection inside too.....
What did some of you guys do....
To spray or not to spray ?
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN - FSII
---
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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| Subject: | Re: first flight details |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Yeah Ken, I wouldn't mind if it happened sooner or later, but the trouble is
that it happens sooner AND later!!!
Az Dave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Korenek" <ken-foi@attbi.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: first flight details
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com>
>
> FRED2319@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com
>
> >
> > On landing I was making a 180 on grass and put it up on the nose. Had
about 30
> > spectators.
>
> There's a guy named "Murphy" who wrote some laws about stuff like
that.
> You'll only do embarrasing thinks in front of people, never when you're by
> yourself.
>
> I bent the gear when landing in front of 10 people watching me, and
like
> you, I put it over on the nose with about 30 watching (and pointing).
Only
> problem then was that when she went over, the wheels rolled up on the
wheel
> pants (adjusted incorrectly) and destroyed them. That time, more than
my
> pride was damaged.
>
> So, even tho it doesn't seem like it, those things really do happen to
all
> of us- sooner or later...
> --
>
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> *********************
> Ken W. Korenek
>
> 4906 Oak Springs Drive
> Arlington, Texas 76016
>
> 817-572-6832 voice
> 817-572-6842 fax
> 817-657-6500 cell
> 817-483-8054 home
>
> ken-foi@attbi.com
>
>
> Kolb FireStar II, "My Mistress"
> N104KK
> Rotax 503, Oil Injected
> 3 Blade Powerfin
> http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot/TX_files/image019.jpg
>
>
> Six Chuter SR7-XL "Red Baron"
> Powered Parachute
> Rotax 582, Oil Injected
> 3 Blade PowerFin
> http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot/TX_files/image021.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Poly Spray "Cage Area" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
At 03:58 PM 4/12/03 -0500, you wrote:
>I painted the inside of the fabric with the silver because I knew it would
>get sunlight on it from the backside, and then the base color coat.
>There is one thing to be cautious of - it is hard to get the spray gun
>close enough to the fabric, and you will end up shooting at it from too
>far away, and it will orange peel or worse, get sandpapery on you if you
>aren't careful, instead of laying on smooth. If you can come up with a
>small touch up sprayer so you can get close to what you are painting it
>will help. Or maybe if you are just a better painter than me...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
> Cage & Wings left to Poly Spray , and then I'll FINALLY be
> ready for
>color coats....While I was spraying my cage I was wondering about the
>Fabric INSIDE.....I
>don't really want to spray my primer epoxy "silver", but it looks like it
>would need the UV protection inside too.....
>
> What did some of you guys do....
>
> To spray or not to spray ?
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN - FSII
>---
>Sometimes you just have to take the leap
>and build your wings on the way down...
> Gotta Fly...
>
>
Help Stop Spam!
Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you
forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life.
Thanks! And have a blessed day.
rp
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| Subject: | Re: Poly Spray "Cage Area" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >I painted the inside of the fabric with the silver because I knew it would
> >get sunlight on it from the backside, and then the base color coat.
> Richard Pike
Gang:
I did not paint the inside of the fuselage fabric
or inside any other fabric. There were several
reasons, but I can only remember one now. That
was it would be a PITA to mask and shoot.
After 12 years of on again, off again sunlight. I
have discovered no problems except the inside
fabric is hard to keep clean and I don't try to
clean it very often.
john h
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| Subject: | Tuning the EIS for a 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
Folks,
N57MB <EM>("Miss B") </EM>is getting close to flying. I'm in the process of tuning
the EIS to the correct temps and RMPsper the manual and then easing into a
WOT test. Today my CHT and EGT were fine up to 6000 RPMs which is as high as
I went. But the coolant temp hit 191. The max is suppose to be 175. I could bring
the idle back down to 3500 and the temp would drop back to the normal range.
My first inclination is to check the probe to be sure it is set right then replace
the coolant. I will be the first to confess that I know squat about 2 cycle
engines and am intimidated by this little screamer. I would appreciate any thoughts
from those of you more experienced with the Rotax 582.
Suggestions about placement of the probe or anything else to check would be most
appreciated. By the way, the CHT hovered around 210 and the EGT was 1050, therebouts
at 5500 RPMs.
Bob
Campbellsburg, KY
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| Subject: | Re: Poly Spray "Cage Area" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hi Mike / Gang,
Know how you feel. I get that treatment sometimes too. Makes me wonder if
I'm the only one that the post I sent came back to. As to your question, on
the Firestar II that I built I used a outdoor short-nap carpet purchased
from Lowe's to cover the inside walls and floor boards. I think it looks
really good and the extra weight in not that much. I agree with John on the
work involved to tape and cover before spraying, and that's why I went the
carpet route.
Later,
John Cooley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
> Cage & Wings left to Poly Spray , and then I'll FINALLY be
ready for
> color coats....While I was spraying my cage I was wondering about the
Fabric INSIDE.....I
> don't really want to spray my primer epoxy "silver", but it looks like it
> would need the UV protection inside too.....
>
> What did some of you guys do....
>
> To spray or not to spray ?
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| Subject: | Re: Tuning the EIS for a 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Very likely that since the airplane is not in flight, there is just not
enough air moving through the radiators. If it is only getting to 191 on
the ground, you will probably have no problems in flight.
On the other hand... how long does it take (at 6,000 rpm) to get to 191? If
it takes 20-30 seconds to go from 150-160 up to 191, it is OK. But if it
goes up really quick, not so good.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 07:03 PM 4/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious"
><bbrocious@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Folks,
>N57MB <EM>("Miss B") </EM>is getting close to flying. I'm in the process
>of tuning the EIS to the correct temps and RMPsper the manual and then
>easing into a WOT test. Today my CHT and EGT were fine up to 6000 RPMs
>which is as high as I went. But the coolant temp hit 191. The max is
>suppose to be 175. I could bring the idle back down to 3500 and the temp
>would drop back to the normal range.
>
>
>My first inclination is to check the probe to be sure it is set right then
>replace the coolant. I will be the first to confess that I know squat
>about 2 cycle engines and am intimidated by this little screamer. I would
>appreciate any thoughts from those of you more experienced with the Rotax 582.
>
>
>Suggestions about placement of the probe or anything else to check would
>be most appreciated. By the way, the CHT hovered around 210 and the EGT
>was 1050, therebouts at 5500 RPMs.
>
>
>Bob
>Campbellsburg, KY
>
>
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