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1. 01:35 AM - Re: exposed threads (kuffel)
2. 07:21 AM - Mark III Pictures (L. Ray Baker)
3. 07:21 AM - Dolly (L. Ray Baker)
4. 07:33 AM - Re: Dolly (ronnie wehba)
5. 08:19 AM - seats (boyd young)
6. 10:11 AM - Re: Lar's Building (Bob N.)
7. 11:14 AM - can I buy a new gearbox without a Rotax engine (Jim Gerken)
8. 05:26 PM - Re: can I buy a new gearbox without a Rotax engine (Richard Pike)
9. 06:04 PM - kOLBRA (Judy Gitt)
10. 06:28 PM - Re: kOLBRA (Bob Bean)
11. 06:28 PM - Re: kOLBRA (John Williamson)
12. 06:31 PM - Re: kOLBRA (Larry Bourne)
13. 06:33 PM - Re: Lar's Building (Larry Bourne)
14. 07:45 PM - Re: seats (CaptainRon)
15. 07:45 PM - selling new starter (Timandjan@aol.com)
16. 08:32 PM - Re: kOLBRA (John Hauck)
17. 09:46 PM - Re: kOLBRA ()
18. 10:12 PM - Re: seats (possums)
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| Subject: | Re: exposed threads |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: kuffel <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Boyd, et. al.
<< <What's the regulation on exposed threads...( 3 ??? )>
the faa told me 1 1/2 showing.>>>
Actually, there is no such regulation. There is a common practice which
goes back to at least the AN hardware standard of WW II which is no less
than 1 and no more than 3 threads showing. But to understand the
practice it helps to understand the reasoning behind it.
The purpose is to have the entire shear load of the fitting be taken by
the shank of the bolt. The threads are not designed to take any of the
side loads of a fitting. Thus the AN standard said no more than 1 and
1/2 threads could be inside the fitting but the shank shouldn't stick
out so far from the fitting that the nut could bottom out on the shank.
With standard nuts and bolts available in 1/8 inch length increments,
all of these goals could be assured without having to disassemble the
fitting by saying 1 to 3 threads exposed with 1 to 3 standard thickness
washers under the nut.
For more information see my post of Sat at 2:35pm with the same Subject.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
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| Subject: | Mark III Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "L. Ray Baker" <rbaker-@atlantic.net>
Larry,
Check out <rbaker-.members.atlantic.net>. You will find a series of pictures documenting
the building of "Duh Plane".
The pictures of the completed plane are the highest number. 559b, 559g, and 559i.
Ray Baker
Gainsville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Austin <joandlp@starband.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mark III pics ??
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net>
>
> BlankHello Group,
> Anyone know of a site that has some good pics, inside and out, of a Mark
III
> Xtra? Thanks in advance,
>
> Larry
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "L. Ray Baker" <rbaker-@atlantic.net>
Ed,
You might take look at what I call a caddy. <rbaker-.members.atlantic.net> .
Check out pictures 536a, 536b, and 544a. Might give you some ideas.
Ray Baker
Gainesville, FL
Time: 10:11:54 PM PST US
From: DAquaNut@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List:wing supports
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group:
Ive been in lurk mode for a while. Ive been working on my trailer when
not taking care of my 91year old Mom. Anyway, Ive got my trailer to the
point of needing fastening devices for main gear wheels. Also ,I want to
make some sort of wing cradles to support the wings in transit when they are
removed . I plan on using the wing attach points to secure the root end of
the wing. I also need to make a dolly to move my Firefly around. Any ideas?
If there is anything in the archives on these subjects I guess I dont
know how to bring them up .
Ed in Houston Do Not Archive
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BAYES_01, DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,
REFERENCES)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
how do you get to the photos?
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. Ray Baker" <rbaker-@atlantic.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Dolly
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "L. Ray Baker" <rbaker-@atlantic.net>
>
> Ed,
>
> You might take look at what I call a caddy.
<rbaker-.members.atlantic.net> . Check out pictures 536a, 536b, and 544a.
Might give you some ideas.
>
> Ray Baker
> Gainesville, FL
>
> Time: 10:11:54 PM PST US
> From: DAquaNut@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List:wing supports
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Group:
> Ive been in lurk mode for a while. Ive been working on my trailer
when
> not taking care of my 91year old Mom. Anyway, Ive got my trailer to the
> point of needing fastening devices for main gear wheels. Also ,I want to
> make some sort of wing cradles to support the wings in transit when they
are
> removed . I plan on using the wing attach points to secure the root end
of
> the wing. I also need to make a dolly to move my Firefly around. Any
ideas?
> If there is anything in the archives on these subjects I guess I dont
> know how to bring them up .
>
> Ed in Houston Do Not Archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
People walk away impressed with the elegance and
strength of the design, my only embarrassments when I
show the M3X off is the cheapo sling seats.
For something that is on par with light production
aircraft those cheapo hammocks don't belong there.
Looking around for something better.
Do not archive
when i rebuilt i found a set of seats from a piper tomocauffin (tomohawlk)
i had to weld some brackets to hold them in place and they come out in about
5 seconds . they are MOST comfortable. before setteling for the piper seats
i tried a set form a cesna 150 and they would have been a good choice as well,
but the piper seats have an adjustable hinged back that can be tilted forward.
i also had looked at some boat seats but i never tried them in the plane.
i knew that after the first go around the sling seats had to go.
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Lar's Building |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
think he uses mouse milk--some kinda crud-buster
Bob N.
do not archive
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| Subject: | can I buy a new gearbox without a Rotax engine |
04/22/2003 01:13:05 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" <gerken@us.ibm.com>
This used to be a rule, gearboxes sold only for use on Rotax engines, meybe
its loosened up a bit now.
If I start to get serious about swapping my Rotax 582 out for a BMW R100,
what would I go thru to obtain a new "C" box from Rotax? Could I buy one
by giving them my old 582 serial number or something? I don't want a Hirth
box, only a Rotax "C" box will be considered.
What is a perfect 582 with 170 hours TT worth? has dual carbs, HAC, oil
injection, HPC coated exhaust system, "C" box, powerfin prop, dual rotax
radiators, more. Its working beautifully on my MKiii , and will continue
to fly on there unless/until I actually sell it and jump into the BMW
thing.
Jim Gerken
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| Subject: | Re: can I buy a new gearbox without a Rotax engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
There is a C-box on e-bay, will be on for 5 more days, watch it and see.
Plus a 582/w C-box & starter, currently at $1625.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 01:12 PM 4/22/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" <gerken@us.ibm.com>
>
>This used to be a rule, gearboxes sold only for use on Rotax engines, meybe
>its loosened up a bit now.
>If I start to get serious about swapping my Rotax 582 out for a BMW R100,
>what would I go thru to obtain a new "C" box from Rotax? Could I buy one
>by giving them my old 582 serial number or something? I don't want a Hirth
>box, only a Rotax "C" box will be considered.
>
>What is a perfect 582 with 170 hours TT worth? has dual carbs, HAC, oil
>injection, HPC coated exhaust system, "C" box, powerfin prop, dual rotax
>radiators, more. Its working beautifully on my MKiii , and will continue
>to fly on there unless/until I actually sell it and jump into the BMW
>thing.
>
>
>Jim Gerken
Do Not Archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
I Just thought I would pass this on to all of you Kolb people. The Feds gave
me the Ok Monday, April 21 and that Kolbra just jumped right off the ground.
I have 4 hrs on it and it flies great. Thanks to all the Kolb people - Ray ,
Linda , Travis. Larry Gitt - Fremont, Nebraska
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Congratulations to one more Larry flying .......snicker snicker . some
buddies
you got here Lar. -BB (still walking too) do not archive
Judy Gitt wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
>
>I Just thought I would pass this on to all of you Kolb people. The Feds gave
me the Ok Monday, April 21 and that Kolbra just jumped right off the ground.
I have 4 hrs on it and it flies great. Thanks to all the Kolb people - Ray
, Linda , Travis. Larry Gitt - Fremont, Nebraska
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
Larry,
Congratulations on putting another Kolbra in the air.
Keep us posted on how it flies with that 582.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, N49KK, Jabiru 2200, 253 hours
http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hope you were in it. :-) Congratulations ! ! ! How long did it take to
build it ?? Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: kOLBRA
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
>
> I Just thought I would pass this on to all of you Kolb people. The Feds
gave me the Ok Monday, April 21 and that Kolbra just jumped right off the
ground. I have 4 hrs on it and it flies great. Thanks to all the Kolb
people - Ray , Linda , Travis. Larry Gitt - Fremont, Nebraska
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lar's Building |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Useta drink a lotta Moose Milk at Christmas-time, when I was a
drunk-a-holic. Maybe that's where......................???
Sober Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Lar's Building
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
>
> think he uses mouse milk--some kinda crud-buster
>
> Bob N.
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
--- boyd young <by0ung@brigham.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young"
> <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
> >
>
> People walk away impressed with the elegance and
> strength of the design, my only embarrassment when
> I
> show the M3X off is the cheapo sling seats.
> For something that is on par with light production
> aircraft those cheapo hammocks don't belong there.
> Looking around for something better.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> when i rebuilt i found a set of seats from a piper
> tomocauffin (tomohawlk) i had to weld some
> brackets to hold them in place and they come out in
> about 5 seconds . they are MOST comfortable.
> before setteling for the piper seats i tried a set
> form a cesna 150 and they would have been a good
> choice as well, but the piper seats have an
> adjustable hinged back that can be tilted forward.
> i also had looked at some boat seats but i never
> tried them in the plane. i knew that after the
> first go around the sling seats had to go.
>
> boyd
====================
After JH and others recommended that spiffy super butt
messaging foam, I have started thinking that maybe the
fastest and easiest thing to do is to make my own
seats (getting a posterior message while
flying,,????). I have had some ideas about crush
worthy seats for a few years, and I think this maybe
the time to actually translate a thought into reality.
Once I am done with the floor plates, and I know where
everything is I think I'll do it. I am trying to avoid
welding like a Chinese avoiding SARS, but I may have
no choice here. It will be cheap and ugly but it will
also be light and very protective. I'll post some pics
once I am done with them *if* I do it.
=====
Building M3X
Southern Arizona
http://search.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | selling new starter |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
I have a new Rotax starter that I am not planning to use, cleaning out the
shop. I have seen several on Ebay that go for about $350.00, so I thought I
would ask that for it. Sure would like it to go to someone on the list. I
have some photos of it if interested, email me off the list.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The Feds gave me the Ok Monday, April 21 and that Kolbra just jumped right
off the ground. Larry Gitt - Fremont, Nebraska
Congratulations Larry!
That is good news.
I guess your Kolbra is the second to fly behind
John Williamson's.
If I were ever to build another airplane, that is
the one I would build.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
I also send my Congratulations Larry, many happy hours of Kolbing to ya..
Denny (Still finishing my Mk-3)Rowe
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Gitt <gittj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: kOLBRA
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
>
> I Just thought I would pass this on to all of you Kolb people. The Feds
gave me the Ok Monday, April 21 and that Kolbra just jumped right off the
ground. I have 4 hrs on it and it flies great. Thanks to all the Kolb
people - Ray , Linda , Travis. Larry Gitt - Fremont, Nebraska
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
I thought about using these kevlar things - but
they cost too much and wouldn't fit in a single seater.
http://www.saferacer.com/ompracingseats.html
At 07:44 PM 4/22/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>===========
>
>After JH and others recommended that spiffy super butt
>messaging foam, I have started thinking that maybe the
>fastest and easiest thing to do is to make my own
>seats (getting a posterior message while
>flying,,????). I have had some ideas about crush
>worthy seats for a few years, and I think this maybe
>the time to actually translate a thought into reality.
>Once I am done with the floor plates, and I know where
>everything is I think I'll do it. I am trying to avoid
>welding like a Chinese avoiding SARS, but I may have
>no choice here. It will be cheap and ugly but it will
>also be light and very protective. I'll post some pics
>once I am done with them *if* I do it.
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