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1. 12:15 AM - Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Larry Bourne)
2. 05:04 AM - Re: El Paso (Dave Rains)
3. 06:15 AM - Re: El Paso ()
4. 07:20 AM - Victor 1+ - First Short Cross Country (Jack & Louise Hart)
5. 07:34 AM - Re: BRS and cooling (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
6. 08:15 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 04/26/03 (Doug Lawton)
7. 08:16 AM - Re: El Paso (Larry Bourne)
8. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: BRS and cooling (possums)
9. 09:26 AM - Who's Ultrastar? (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
10. 09:46 AM - Fw: Out west pictures (Larry Bourne)
11. 09:49 AM - Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (CaptainRon)
12. 09:59 AM - Horz. Stab. Alignment (Joe Allman)
13. 10:00 AM - Re: Grand Canyon (Eugene Zimmerman)
14. 10:00 AM - Re: Who's Ultrastar? (ronnie wehba)
15. 10:01 AM - Re: El Paso (CaptainRon)
16. 10:15 AM - Re: El Paso (CaptainRon)
17. 10:36 AM - Re: Grand Canyon (ronnie wehba)
18. 10:59 AM - Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment (John Hauck)
19. 11:31 AM - HVLP paint gun (Ben Ransom)
20. 01:15 PM - Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment (Joe Allman)
21. 02:02 PM - Louisville, Kentucky (WillUribe@aol.com)
22. 02:18 PM - Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Bob N.)
23. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: BRS and cooling (Gary robert voigt)
24. 04:12 PM - Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment (Richard Pike)
25. 05:14 PM - pic posting (Bob Bean)
26. 05:45 PM - Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment (Joe Allman)
27. 07:14 PM - Re: Louisville, Kentucky ()
28. 07:20 PM - Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment (Christopher Armstrong)
29. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 04/26/03 ()
30. 07:44 PM - Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (GeoR38@aol.com)
31. 08:02 PM - Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment (GeoR38@aol.com)
32. 08:51 PM - Re: pic posting (CaptainRon)
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| Subject: | Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Ahhhhhh........................that do look good.
Soon-to-follow Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
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Subject: Kolb-List: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
Yes, I carry my sidearm (Colt Combat Elite .45) and a 45.70. Lions track
people for fun. Never heard of one around here attacking a person, but
occasionally we get a soldier who goes jogging in the dessert and comes
back white as a ghost. Many laughs! The old rocket boosters are still
where they landed. Can't remove them due to UXO lying everywhere. One big
change in the area is the migration in of Oryx. We have many hundreds on
the range now and have started a depredation hunt to control them. You
haven't lived till you fly your Kolb along side a herd of African Gazelles!
Dave Rains
do not archive
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From: Richard Pike [SMTP:rwpike@charter.net]
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: El Paso
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Did they not allow you to carry a weapon?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Do Not Archive
At 07:10 AM 4/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Martin Trusty" <martintr@earthlink.net>
>
>Hi Dave & George
>While in El Paso, I had an interesting job before having to leave for
other
>destinations. Worked the White Sands and Mc Gregor Range missile
evaluation
>teams. We sure left a lot of dead soldiers standing in the desert there
>(expended Booster remains). My scarest fears came when I was alone and
>found out I was being tracked by a mountain Lion (had several names). It
is
>amazing how fear can get you back into the safety of your vehicle.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
> Dave Rains wrote:
> Yes, I carry my sidearm (Colt Combat Elite .45) >
Nice choice Dave! :-)
Denny
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Pike [SMTP:rwpike@charter.net]
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:01 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: El Paso
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Did they not allow you to carry a weapon?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Do Not Archive
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> At 07:10 AM 4/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Martin Trusty" <martintr@earthlink.net>
> >
> >Hi Dave & George
> >While in El Paso, I had an interesting job before having to leave for
> other
> >destinations. Worked the White Sands and Mc Gregor Range missile
> evaluation
> >teams. We sure left a lot of dead soldiers standing in the desert there
> >(expended Booster remains). My scarest fears came when I was alone and
> >found out I was being tracked by a mountain Lion (had several names). It
> is
> >amazing how fear can get you back into the safety of your vehicle.
>
>
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| Subject: | Victor 1+ - First Short Cross Country |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
Flew from K02 - Perryville to Painton, Missouri, 54 miles point to point to the
EAA 453 Chapter meeting. The thermals pushed me up to 2,000 agl on the way down
and 2,500 agl on the way back. Too much haze to fly higher.
They had a pitch in dinner, and the program was given by four WWII pilots who described
their experiences. A fun day.
Ran some numbers to see how the Victor 1+ compared with the Rotax 447 over this
same flight path. I had good data for nine flights with the Rotax 447. The
average fuel burn was 5.7 gallons (3.1 gph). Yesterday, the Victor 1+ burned
4.7 gallons (2.1 gph). In all fairness to the Rotax 447, the average flight ground
speed was 58 mph and yesterday it was 48 mph.
Ran some drag numbers on the round wing struts. At 55 mph they eat up just about
two hp. It will be interesting to fair them in and see what happens on the
next trip. Currently, I am cutting out blue foam pieces to glue to the struts.
Do not archive
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: BRS and cooling |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< I'm to the point where I have to get going on a BRS for my Firestar. I
recall reading something on the list a while back about cooling problems
with a top mounted canister. Can anyone help on this? >>
Terry, Kolb Friends -
If you are worried about cooling problems using a top-mounted canister, BRS
has an installation option for the Firestar that places the canister almost
entirely inside the fuselage cage. Attaches to the boom tube; fires
downward. Call BRS for details.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 04/26/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
Kolbers,
After taking a hiatus from Ultralight flying for almost 10 years, I've
jumped back into it feet first.
I'm running an inverted 503 DCDI that I'm having some minor problems with.
Anytime it sits for a few hours or overnight, it seems that the fuel in the
lines are flooding the plugs. The fuel tanks are lower than the engine.
Each time I want to fly, I have to pull all four plugs and dry them out
before it will crank. If the engine is warm from a previous flight, no
problem. But when it's cold, it's really hard to start. I mean like 20 to
30 pulls of the cord to crank it.
Never had this problem on any of my previous aircraft with inverted 503's.
This is admittedly the first DCDI I've had any experience with though.
This weekend, I installed an inline fuel shutoff valve and after I flew, I
shut it off and let the engine run out of gas rather than just shutting it
off via the switch. We'll see how that works next time out.
It also seems to be running very cool. From what I remember from years ago,
we used to use 350 F as a max for CHT's and something like 1250 F for EGT's
on 503's. Am I correct on these temps? This one is running in the 250 to
300 CHT and 900 to 1000 for EGT.
I recently installed an intake silencer and re-jetted the carbs with the
included jets, purchased from Lockwood. Our airport is around 700' above
sea level and it was about 75 degrees on Sunday when I was flying.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated from those of you a bit more
"current" on maintenance and mechanics of the 503. My memory just "ain't
what it used to be".
Thanks in advance,
Doug Lawton
NE Georgia and Whitwell TN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I grew up on the west coast of British Columbia in the '40's & 50's, where
cougars were a real problem back then.............especially on Vancouver
Island. In that heavy rain forest and brush, the stalk-ee seldom knew they
were there, and there were quite a few attacks - especially on children.
I've had people try to tell me that cougars are mute. Sorry - I'm a 1st
hand witness as to how their scream will stand your hair straight up ! ! !
Interestingly, there's been a large surge in their population here in
Southern California, with several seen right in town in Palm Desert in the
last few years. Also a couple of attacks in the San Diego area a couple of
years ago. They're neat critters, but definitely not pussycats. Amazing,
how the animal rights people change their tune, when the cougar is in THEIR
backyard. Big Lar, eh ?? Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Rains" <rr@htg.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: El Paso
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
>
> Yes, I carry my sidearm (Colt Combat Elite .45) and a 45.70. Lions track
> people for fun. Never heard of one around here attacking a person, but
> occasionally we get a soldier who goes jogging in the dessert and comes
> back white as a ghost. Many laughs! The old rocket boosters are still
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| Subject: | Re: BRS and cooling |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
I've got mine that way. Think they told me - "no matter which way
you fire it, it will open behind the plane and come up
over the top."
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/BRSsys.jpg
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Sideview.jpg
At 02:34 PM 4/28/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
><Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
><< I'm to the point where I have to get going on a BRS for my Firestar. I
>recall reading something on the list a while back about cooling problems
>with a top mounted canister. Can anyone help on this? >>
>
>Terry, Kolb Friends -
>
>If you are worried about cooling problems using a top-mounted canister, BRS
>has an installation option for the Firestar that places the canister almost
>entirely inside the fuselage cage. Attaches to the boom tube; fires
>downward. Call BRS for details.
>
>Dennis Kirby
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| Subject: | Who's Ultrastar? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
ronnie wehba asked:
<< I have a picture of a ultrastar it has a silver boom tube and black wheel
pants "i think" the pilot is giving a thumbs up at the camera, it has a
canister chute of some kind mounted on the boom. does anyone know who this
might be? >>
Ronnie -
It's KZ Zigatis. He's an EAA Tech Counselor in the St Louis area.
He sold that Ultrastar a couple of years ago. Flies an autogyro now.
Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Fw: Out west pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
This time I did it the other way round..................thought I was
replying to the List, and sent Marv that whole long winded tirade. Sorry,
Marv. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
> Long Winded Lar ranting below.
> Do not Archive.
>
> And, thank you, Marv - and all others who've been so complimentary. I'm
way
> behind on building web pages for last year's vacation. Several people
have
> emailed me, and asked about the camera. That trip - 8,000 miles in 4 1/2
> weeks - included my 1st attempt at digital photography and I used a little
> Olympus C-720. It's a 3.1 megapixel camera with a 7X optical, and 3X
> digital zoom. I understand the newer C-730 has a 10X optical, which would
> really be great. It's small enuf that I built a small handle to screw
into
> the tripod mount, for a better grip. Olympus makes a dandy screw on wide
> angle adapter that I recommend highly. Most of the time, I just left it
> mounted. Zoom works fine with it. I quickly developed a routine of
taking
> pictures all day - to the point where, in Jasper, B.C., my knees started
to
> give out from jumping out & back in the truck umpteen times - then
> downloading them into the laptop at night, in the camper. Delete those I
> didn't like, and save the rest to files. Clear (re-format) the card, and
> start over the next day. They're a wonderful toy. Anyone want to buy my
> trusty old Nikon F2 that's been so good for so many years ?? Take LOTS
> of pictures...............some are bound to come out good, and, once you
own
> the camera, the pics are free. Try to picture what the finished photo
will
> look like. I averaged probably 50 - 60 pictures a day on the trip, with
> over 100 a day while taking pics of the grizzlies catching salmon in
Hyder,
> AK, and nearly 200 while going down thru Jasper N.P. in the Canadian
> Rockies. Again, over 100 a day, down thru Canyonlands & Arches, etc.,
etc.
> That would run you broke in a hurry with a 35mm. All that's needed with
the
> Olympus is 2 cards of 128 mp each, and a couple sets of spare batteries.
A
> 128 mp card will hold well over 100 pictures of 1600x1200 resolution, and
> the batteries will give about 100 pics per charge. There were a couple of
> things the Oly didn't satisfy, primarily in the menus, so I sold it to a
> friend (yes, we're still friends) and bought a Nikon CP5700, with 5
> megapixels. In practicality, 3 or 5 megapixels give too large a file size
> per pic - from 1.3 megabytes to 15 megabytes each, so almost all shooting
> was done a couple of steps down. Ironically, I'm using the Nikon at
> 1600x1200 resolution, while the little Oly was slightly better at
1944x1488
> resolution. In reality, I can't see any difference. In both cameras,
this
> gives terrific, photo quality 8x10 prints, while still only using about
> 400 - 700 kilobytes per pic. Much more practical. All of the pics in the
> Grand Canyon, and Canyon de Chelly pages were taken at that resolution,
then
> JPEG'ed as necessary. Also, the wide angle adapter and 2X adapter
for
> the Nikon are no-where near as good, or versatile as the ones on the
> Olympus, it eats batteries much faster, and they're very expensive. I
hafta
> carry 2 spares, and a charger in the truck. I do like the menus much
> better, tho'. Everything's a trade-off, eh ?? I put a small carabiner
on
> the bottom of both cameras, using the tripod screw mount, so that when
> hiking, and carrying the camera around my neck, I can clip it to a belt
> loop, to keep it from swinging around and getting damaged, or in the way.
> Works great, and un-clips fast. Camera Bug Lar.
> Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marv Pribble" <marv@c3hq.com>
> To: <biglar@gogittum.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 5:51 PM
> Subject: Out west pictures
>
>
> > Larry,
> >
> > Thanks for putting in the effort to post the pictures. It is amazing
> > scenery for us 'flatlanders' back in Indiana. I spent a week driving
> > around southwestern Utah about 9 years ago and must have said "Look at
> > that!" about 10,000 times.
> >
> > I know the pictures I took did not really capture the grandeur of the
> > country. I look at yours and marvel at what it must have been in
person.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marv
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Dude i don't know if its my computer or what,, but
your photo's are coming through with very low
resolution. Can't tell a thing about your airplane.
Do not archive
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> A new Email List Photo Share is available:
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> Poster: Larry Gitt <gittj@earthlink.net>
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| Subject: | Horz. Stab. Alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
Kolbers,
I'm installing adj. brackets for the leading edge of the horz. stab. on a
Mark III Extra, 912 UL.
I wanted to get an idea of the incidence with the old brackets so I blocked
up the tail and put a level to work. It became apparent that the right side
(passenger) has a greater angle of attack.
Scratching my head- I walked across the ramp and looked at a SS with a 582
and found just the opposite. The left side higher.
It appears they have trimmed the airplanes for roll with the horz. stab.
Is this normal for a KOLB?
Thanks in advance,
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Grand Canyon |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
ronnie wehba wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
>
> anyone know the redline "rpm" on a cuyuna ULII-02, thanks
>
Red line is half way up the Grand Canyon wall some at places, but what
has Cuyuna got to do with it?
Set top rpm at bout 6300-6500 and ur good to go.
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| Subject: | Re: Who's Ultrastar? |
BAYES_01, DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,
REFERENCES)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
thanks do you happen to know what kind of brs that is?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Subject: Kolb-List: Who's Ultrastar?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> ronnie wehba asked:
> << I have a picture of a ultrastar it has a silver boom tube and black
wheel
> pants "i think" the pilot is giving a thumbs up at the camera, it has a
> canister chute of some kind mounted on the boom. does anyone know who this
> might be? >>
>
> Ronnie -
> It's KZ Zigatis. He's an EAA Tech Counselor in the St Louis area.
> He sold that Ultrastar a couple of years ago. Flies an autogyro now.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
That alone will be worth a trip to that area. I still
remember that one time up near Sanford Main when I was
flying an Ultra called a Cricket (two midget Briggs &
Straton for power,, well at least some of the time)
alongside a couple of deer who were trying to get away
with a full head of steam.
do not archive
============
You
haven't lived till you fly your Kolb along side a herd
of African
Gazelles!
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Well yeah,,, :-)
Its a typical reaction for those in that part of the
political spectrum. As long as its someone elses kids
that get eaten up, its ok, after all *they* moved into
where those nice noble kitties live. However when its
their little Jeniffer that get's eaten up,, its
*everybody's* fault that those savage wild animlas are
that close to their house.
do not archive.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
thanks guys, I know I am gonna enjoy this plane"ultrastar"
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From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Grand Canyon
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
<eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
>
> ronnie wehba wrote:
> >
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> >
> > anyone know the redline "rpm" on a cuyuna ULII-02, thanks
> >
>
> Red line is half way up the Grand Canyon wall some at places, but what
> has Cuyuna got to do with it?
>
>
> Set top rpm at bout 6300-6500 and ur good to go.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> It appears they have trimmed the airplanes for roll with the horz. stab.
>
> Is this normal for a KOLB?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
Hi Joe/Gang:
I think what you have discovered are some of the
discrepancies we amateur Kolb builders build into
our airplanes. I have not checked mine lately,
but they may be out of sync with each other.
The left roll problem with Mark III's and X's is
probably caused by single pilot sitting off center
in the left seat. Put an equally heavy passenger
in the right seat and the roll problem will
probably go away.
To answer your question, I do not think the
incidence in Kolb aircraft are designed to
compensate for any adverse roll tendancies.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
Hi all,
I bought a gravity feed hvlp paint gun on Saturday and it is really
great. This is a Central Pneumatic 43430-2VGA from Harbor Freight
($65).
I had been using a small touch-up gun to do individual pieces and even
started on the cage with it. That gun died on Saturday -- very
frustrating when you've done all the setup and a junk tool ruins a good
chunk of precious build time! But it was a blessing in disguise as I
was needing to decide what to do about finish painting and the larger
pieces. Quality and ease with this new gun are great as long as the
surface is relatively horizontal. Of course a little more care
required if pieces are verticle. Two other people had recommended this
gun to me, so I'm fairly confident it will last as long as I clean it
meticulously after use. BTW, I'm using Polyfiber/Polytone.
Moved from very grumpy Saturday to all smiles Sunday...
-Ben
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| Subject: | Horz. Stab. Alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
John and Gang,
Both of these planes were built by the old Kolb company as factory demos.
John, I think you have flown both of these planes years ago. The Mark III
bears your signature and the Slingshot is the prototype you flew at Sun and
Fun.
At any rate, I agree with you and I'm as surprised as you to see the
differences in incidence.
The Mark III flew roll neutral until I evened up the horz. stab. Now it
rolls to the right with a heavier pilot on the left. I haven't changed the
SS and it flys well.
Your reassurance that this is NOT the way to trim an airplane reaffirms my
own beliefs.
I'll start looking at other factors and see if I can find the problem. I
just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was missing. I don't have
much experience trimming a "pusher" and thought there might be some unique
factors to consider.
Thanks again,
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Hauck
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Horz. Stab. Alignment
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> It appears they have trimmed the airplanes for roll with the horz. stab.
>
> Is this normal for a KOLB?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
Hi Joe/Gang:
I think what you have discovered are some of the
discrepancies we amateur Kolb builders build into
our airplanes. I have not checked mine lately,
but they may be out of sync with each other.
The left roll problem with Mark III's and X's is
probably caused by single pilot sitting off center
in the left seat. Put an equally heavy passenger
in the right seat and the roll problem will
probably go away.
To answer your question, I do not think the
incidence in Kolb aircraft are designed to
compensate for any adverse roll tendancies.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Louisville, Kentucky |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Greetings,
Any Kolb in the area of Louisville, KY? I'll be working here for 4 days.
Sorry to say but it looks like my schedule will have me in Pittsburgh during
the Monument Valley fly-in. We still haven't received the PO so it may be
postponed then I will make it to the fly-in.
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Yep, my magic box doesn't show these pix very well, either.
Bob N.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: BRS and cooling |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Dennis, i have had my canister top mount on the firestar for over a year now
and my
temps have not changed at all and it is about 68 degrees to the root tube and about
5.5
inches back from the fan... if you want i can send you some pics. it may even give
you better
cooling as the air rushes around the back of the canister, who know.
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> << I'm to the point where I have to get going on a BRS for my Firestar. I
> recall reading something on the list a while back about cooling problems
> with a top mounted canister. Can anyone help on this? >>
>
> Terry, Kolb Friends -
>
> If you are worried about cooling problems using a top-mounted canister, BRS
> has an installation option for the Firestar that places the canister almost
> entirely inside the fuselage cage. Attaches to the boom tube; fires
> downward. Call BRS for details.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3, in
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
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| Subject: | Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Not that I've ever heard of.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 12:58 PM 4/28/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
>
>Kolbers,
>I'm installing adj. brackets for the leading edge of the horz. stab. on a
>Mark III Extra, 912 UL.
>
>I wanted to get an idea of the incidence with the old brackets so I blocked
>up the tail and put a level to work. It became apparent that the right side
>(passenger) has a greater angle of attack.
>
>Scratching my head- I walked across the ramp and looked at a SS with a 582
>and found just the opposite. The left side higher.
>
>It appears they have trimmed the airplanes for roll with the horz. stab.
>
>Is this normal for a KOLB?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Joe
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Hi fellers, don't know how universal this is, but I have found that when
you email a photo it helps to brighten it up with your software just a bit
more than seems right. -Don't know why, but works for me.
I use the cheapo MGI that came with my cheapo cam...do not archive
-BB, finally got my creation to idle nice. Mucho hair torn out (and
brewskis
consumed)
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| Subject: | Horz. Stab. Alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
Thanks Guys.
Joe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Horz. Stab. Alignment
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Not that I've ever heard of.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 12:58 PM 4/28/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
>
>Kolbers,
>I'm installing adj. brackets for the leading edge of the horz. stab. on a
>Mark III Extra, 912 UL.
>
>I wanted to get an idea of the incidence with the old brackets so I blocked
>up the tail and put a level to work. It became apparent that the right
side
>(passenger) has a greater angle of attack.
>
>Scratching my head- I walked across the ramp and looked at a SS with a 582
>and found just the opposite. The left side higher.
>
>It appears they have trimmed the airplanes for roll with the horz. stab.
>
>Is this normal for a KOLB?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Joe
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Louisville, Kentucky |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Will;
Let me know when you are going to be working in Pittsburgh, I am only 40
miles north east and would love to meet you, and show you my birds.
Denny Rowe
Leechburg PA Mk-3 ready to test, Loehle Sport Parasol flying
----- Original Message -----
From: <WillUribe@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Louisville, Kentucky
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> Greetings,
> Any Kolb in the area of Louisville, KY? I'll be working here for 4 days.
> Sorry to say but it looks like my schedule will have me in Pittsburgh
during
> the Monument Valley fly-in. We still haven't received the PO so it may be
> postponed then I will make it to the fly-in.
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
> El Paso, TX
> FireStar II N4GU
> C-172 N2506U
> http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Horz. Stab. Alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <cen33475@CenturyTel.net>
>I wanted to get an idea of the incidence with the old brackets so I blocked
>up the tail and put a level to work. It became apparent that the right
side
>(passenger) has a greater angle of attack.
not avery big moment arm in the roll axis for the tail. lets say avarage of
2 feet or so. total lift of one side of the stab is maybe 50 pounds, so 100
ftpounds of moment available if you put 10 degrees of angle change on one
side of the tail. now compare that to the ailerons. each wing is carrying
around 350 pounds, and the ailerom can change the lift coeficient by 20%,so
thats 70 pounds at around 8 feet or 560 foot pounds or 5 times as much.
Guess thats why aircraft designers ussually use ailerons for roll control.
( now nobody come back and tell me how far off my guesses are... just wags)
Topher
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 04/26/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Doug,
Sounds like you are a little on the rich side, pull your plugs and if they
are black and wet looking you may want to lean the main circuit a little.
You want a nice brownish tan color to your plugs.
The extra fuel from being to rich would settle around your plugs.
Denny Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Lawton <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 04/26/03
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
>
> Kolbers,
>
> After taking a hiatus from Ultralight flying for almost 10 years, I've
> jumped back into it feet first.
>
> I'm running an inverted 503 DCDI that I'm having some minor problems with.
> Anytime it sits for a few hours or overnight, it seems that the fuel in
the
> lines are flooding the plugs. The fuel tanks are lower than the engine.
> Each time I want to fly, I have to pull all four plugs and dry them out
> before it will crank. If the engine is warm from a previous flight, no
> problem. But when it's cold, it's really hard to start. I mean like 20
to
> 30 pulls of the cord to crank it.
>
> Never had this problem on any of my previous aircraft with inverted 503's.
> This is admittedly the first DCDI I've had any experience with though.
>
> This weekend, I installed an inline fuel shutoff valve and after I flew, I
> shut it off and let the engine run out of gas rather than just shutting it
> off via the switch. We'll see how that works next time out.
>
> It also seems to be running very cool. From what I remember from years
ago,
> we used to use 350 F as a max for CHT's and something like 1250 F for
EGT's
> on 503's. Am I correct on these temps? This one is running in the 250 to
> 300 CHT and 900 to 1000 for EGT.
>
> I recently installed an intake silencer and re-jetted the carbs with the
> included jets, purchased from Lockwood. Our airport is around 700' above
> sea level and it was about 75 degrees on Sunday when I was flying.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated from those of you a bit more
> "current" on maintenance and mechanics of the 503. My memory just "ain't
> what it used to be".
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Doug Lawton
> NE Georgia and Whitwell TN
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 4/28/03 12:50:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
aerialron@yahoo.com writes:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>
> Dude i don't know if its my computer or what,, but
> your photo's are coming through with very low
> resolution. Can't tell a thing about your airplane.
>
> Do not archive
>
It isn't a resolution problem, the picture is waaaaay tooo big
GeoR38
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| Subject: | Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 4/28/03 10:21:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cen33475@centurytel.net writes:
>
> not avery big moment arm in the roll axis for the tail. lets say avarage
> of
> 2 feet or so. total lift of one side of the stab is maybe 50 pounds, so
> 100
> ftpounds of moment available if you put 10 degrees of angle change on one
> side of the tail. now compare that to the ailerons. each wing is carrying
> around 350 pounds, and the ailerom can change the lift coeficient by 20%,so
> thats 70 pounds at around 8 feet or 560 foot pounds or 5 times as much.
> Guess thats why aircraft designers ussually use ailerons for roll control.
> ( now nobody come back and tell me how far off my guesses are... just wags)
>
> Topher
>
> Keep up the good work Topher, even if we are too thick to follow it we love
the way you think...."if you can express it in numbers, you are at least
beginning to understand it".
George Randolph
Firestar driver from Akron,O
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Well.. its almost a good policy to never finish
anything if the brewskis are predicated "on while in
the process". Of course that does not explain dry Big
lar. But it does explain why I hardly ever cut the
grass in the back yard.
do not archive.
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Mucho hair torn out (and
brewskis
consumed)
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Southern Arizona
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