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1. 12:07 AM - Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment (Larry Bourne)
2. 04:05 AM - owners album (Airgriff2@aol.com)
3. 04:47 AM - rotax going up for sale (Jim Gerken)
4. 05:23 AM - parts for sale (al bumhoffer)
5. 06:01 AM - Kawasaki 340 (KRISTINA L GIBFRIED)
6. 06:35 AM - list mnonument valley (boyd young)
7. 06:37 AM - Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (FRED2319@aol.com)
8. 07:15 AM - Re: list mnonument valley (John Hauck)
9. 09:49 AM - Re: Kawasaki 340 ()
10. 11:50 AM - Re:camera port (Richard Pike)
11. 01:16 PM - FAA web problems ()
12. 01:28 PM - Re: Re:camera port (John Hauck)
13. 01:59 PM - AC needed ()
14. 05:07 PM - NOT AGAIN!!! HVLP VS. PRESSURE POT (Gary robert voigt)
15. 05:26 PM - Re: FAA web problems (Bob Bean)
16. 05:51 PM - Re: FAA web problems (CaptainRon)
17. 06:22 PM - Re: FAA web problems (Bob Bean)
18. 06:25 PM - Test posting (Wayne F.Wilson)
19. 07:06 PM - Re: Kawasaki 340 (Richard Swiderski)
20. 08:30 PM - Re: Test posting (Bob N.)
21. 09:03 PM - Re: NOT AGAIN!!! HVLP VS. PRESSURE POT (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | Re: Horz. Stab. Alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, it's well proven that the best way to learn something is to teach it to
someone else. 'Tis truth. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <GeoR38@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Horz. Stab. Alignment
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 4/28/03 10:21:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> cen33475@centurytel.net writes:
>
> >
> > not avery big moment arm in the roll axis for the tail. lets say
avarage
> > of
> > 2 feet or so. total lift of one side of the stab is maybe 50 pounds, so
> > 100
> > ftpounds of moment available if you put 10 degrees of angle change on
one
> > side of the tail. now compare that to the ailerons. each wing is
carrying
> > around 350 pounds, and the ailerom can change the lift coeficient by
20%,so
> > thats 70 pounds at around 8 feet or 560 foot pounds or 5 times as much.
> > Guess thats why aircraft designers ussually use ailerons for roll
control.
> > ( now nobody come back and tell me how far off my guesses are... just
wags)
> >
> > Topher
> >
> > Keep up the good work Topher, even if we are too thick to follow it we
love
> the way you think...."if you can express it in numbers, you are at least
> beginning to understand it".
> George Randolph
> Firestar driver from Akron,O
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
If any of you have sent in a photo and info on your plane to be included in
the "owners album" on the Kolb web site, They have just added about 7 more to
what was there before.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | rotax going up for sale |
04/29/2003 06:46:33 AM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" <gerken@us.ibm.com>
I am getting serious about that BMW, as of today I am offering:
1997 Rotax 582 Liquid cooled, Dual Carb, Dual Ignition, Oil Injection,
Rotax oil injection tank with low oil sender and head-mounting bracket set,
Rotax exhaust with High Performance Coatings chrome finish, Rotax dual
radiator setup with thermostat, High Altitude Compensating Bing carbs
(HAC), fuel pump, extra carb jets and spark plugs, tool kit included, 170
hrs TT, top-end decarboned on regular intervals (2nd one 7 hours ago),
perfect condition, runs great, presently flying as a pusher on a Kolb, runs
great, I am going 4-stroke, NO GEARBOX , I need to keep the gearbox. All
listed above for first $2750 (that's about 1/2 of LEAF prices).
I have original shipping crate and will package, buyer pays actual
shipping costs.
Jim Gerken
gerken@us.ibm.com
507-253-2454 afternoon
507-753-2619 evenings
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: al bumhoffer <abumhoffer@yahoo.com>
I bought a used engine from a crashed 1995 FirestarII
this past weekend from a guy in Frankfort, New York.
He also has for sale a pair of stream lined struts, 1
good landing gear leg, a pair of larger tires, wheels
and brakes, one of which may be slightly bent, all the
tail feathers, 2-5 gal. gas tanks, and some
instruments. The wings are damaged but could be used
for parts. Contact him at rakickum@ntcnet.com His
name is Rocco.
Al Bumhoffer
Firestar II
Painting and Final Assembly
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: KRISTINA L GIBFRIED <tk1991@swbell.net>
I have decided to go with the Kaw 340 for my project, a Pop's props Zing. I recived
the motor, single 32 mm carb, dual CDI Ignition, and starter. Does anyone
have an idea for a starter solenoid, voltage regulator, and exhaust? I'm also
looking for a source for a redrive. Best Regards, Tim Gibfried
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| Subject: | list mnonument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
. Anyone have a count on aircraft yet? Is Siesta going to
make it (I mean Vamoose)? Who has reservations in the hotel and who is
camping? I'll bring the libations and perhaps some steaks. Got to get a
grip on who's bringing what.
Dave Rains
do not archive
baring weather like this weekend my plane and i will be there.... i was
going to go to a dry lake bed in the utah west desert. the plan was to
leave yesterday and get home today. the forcast for yesterday was wind at
23 gusting to 30 and the weather report indicated winds of over 50 in a
town not far from the dry lake. and today it is raining and snowing. i
am hoping for a better weekend for monument valley.
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: [ Larry Gitt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: list mnonument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Anyone have a count on aircraft yet?
> Dave Rains
Dave/Kolbers/Others:
If I can get the new vertical stabilizer finished
and the tail back on Miss P'fer, I will be there.
Right now, after a weeks delay because of cracks
discovered in the uppper tailpost, I am back on
track to get things finished and ready to go on 14
May.
Tentative plans are depart hauck's holler on or
about 14 May for John Williamson's airfield near
Arlington, TX. Fly his wing to Albuquerque, NM,
then on out to Monument Valley, Utah. After our
flyin concludes, will probably do some flying in
the Utah/Arizona/California/New Mexico/Texas area,
prior to returning home to pay bills at the end of
the month. Can not afford to go to Debtor's
Prison at the beginning of the flying season.
All I am bringing is my appetite and Miss P'fer.
I plan to pitch my tent and sleep with my
airplane, if that is the best option. Do not want
to get too far away from the sh_t house and
shower. Plan to do my meals in the Lodge, but
will have MRE's and the ability to make instant
coffee at my camp site.
Am really looking forward to the flight out, as
well as the opportunity to fly locally in the
Monument Valley, Grand Canyon, Lake Powell areas.
Got to remember to bring lots of film and take
lots of pictures. May have to cut a camera port
in the right door to stick the camera lense out
of. Seems clear Lexan distorts what my eye sees
compared to what comes back from the film
developer. Hope I have time to get all the little
stuff done before I depart, plus fly a little to
make sure all systems are go.
I got the newly welded and repaired tailpost shot
with white epoxy chromate primer yesterday.
Getting ready to reassemble the upper vertical
stabilizer, cover, dope, and finish paint. That
is going to take about 5 to 7 days to go through
all the finishing processes and allow the paint
solvents to bleed off between coats.
Going to try to keep dope and paint at a minimum
or I will have to get some auxilary wings to fly
the overweight tail section. :-)
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Kawasaki 340 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: KRISTINA L GIBFRIED <tk1991@swbell.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kawasaki 340
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: KRISTINA L GIBFRIED <tk1991@swbell.net>
>
> I have decided to go with the Kaw 340 for my project, a Pop's props Zing.
I recived the motor, single 32 mm carb, dual CDI Ignition, and starter. Does
anyone have an idea for a starter solenoid, voltage regulator, and exhaust?
Any light weight solenoid will do, for the VR and especially the exhaust, I
would check with Jaybird in Wisconsin, I beleive he sales the 340 Kawasaki
complete, so he should have the exhausts. The exhaust is very critical so
make sure you get a proven one. Any UL supply house will have a suitable
regulator rectifier.
I'm also looking for a source for a redrive. Best Regards, Tim Gibfried
For a redrive, Why not use a Pops Props v-belt drive?
Denny Rowe
do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
At 09:14 AM 4/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> May have to cut a camera port
>in the right door to stick the camera lense out
>of. Seems clear Lexan distorts what my eye sees
>compared to what comes back from the film
>developer.
Why not order one more of those little 3" Plexiglass snap vents, take it
out to shoot, the rest of the time it will look like it belongs there...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | FAA web problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Kolbers,
I have tried over the course of the last 3 months to occasionally download ACs
from the FAA websight, each time I get a plug-in error and a lot of times my computer
locks up on me.
What the HECK am I doing wrong? Between this problem and my FSDO taking their
good old time getting around to scheduling my inspection, I'm getting a little
POed. :-I
Denny Rowe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Why not order one more of those little 3" Plexiglass snap vents, take it
> out to shoot, the rest of the time it will look like it belongs there...
>
> Richard Pike
Richard/Kolbers:
You are a smart man.
How'd you know I bought two additional pop vents
to install because I got hotter in the "green
house" after I used clear book binding tape to
seal up the entrance door hinge lines to help keep
out rain, primarily, and cold air. What I did not
know was how much cooling effect I was getting
during the warm months from the air leaks in the
hinge line.
I have two pop vents I can use. I'll have to do
some serious planning to cut the hole in the best
place to use the camera in as many angles as
possible. I think the 80-300mm lense will fit in
a three inch hole. Will have to check that out
also.
Thanks again for the suggestion! :-)
john h
PS: I have been working all day and finally got
the vertical stabilizer to the point to start
installing chaffing tape and prepping for fabric.
Ahhhhhhhhh........., I need to predrill the
internal horizontal brace for fabric rivets.
About forgot about that. I can understand better
the time involved in building. It is easy to
forget, after a short time, how planning and work
intensive building a homebuilt in the basement
is. I thought I would get the stabilizer covered
and doped today. Maybe tonight I can get the
fabric on it. 14 May will be here before I know
it.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
I give up!
I can not seem to acquire the ACs over the net, no mater how I try to get them
I get a plug in error.
Can anybody send me AC 90-89a, 65-23a, and 20-27e?
Thanks,
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | NOT AGAIN!!! HVLP VS. PRESSURE POT |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Hello guys, i have been doing my research on HVLP systems and it
seems that graco, devilbiss are the leaders in the industry there may be
a few others but i did not want to spend 1800.00 on the top of the line,
anyway my question is how many of you have used the pressure pot system
or the capspray! it seems to me for only a couple hundred dollars more
that would be the way to go particularly since my kolb is already built
and i want to paint it a different color other than the juneau white and
with this system you can apply paint in any attitude! thats right you
can lay on your back and paint the underside of the wing, you can not do
this with most systems. is it worth the difference and did you get good
results with regular HVLP. also do you gents go with a fresh air system
or just a half mask. maybe by my first flyin this year i can get this
thing color coated!!!
thanks in advance,
Gary r. voigt
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| Subject: | Re: FAA web problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
I haven't tried those forms you are looking for, but just out of
curiosity went
to the FAA site and was surprised that they have finally addressed an old
grievance---AD notes! They are now available although a little buggy, issues
like scrolling, etc. If you use the search function you should be able
to get
what you want. Mechanics formerly had to pay good $$$ to subscribe from
private services for the same stuff. -BB do not archive
rowedl@highstream.net wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
>Kolbers,
>I have tried over the course of the last 3 months to occasionally download ACs
from the FAA websight, each time I get a plug-in error and a lot of times my
computer locks up on me.
>What the HECK am I doing wrong? Between this problem and my FSDO taking their
good old time getting around to scheduling my inspection, I'm getting a little
POed. :-I
>Denny Rowe
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FAA web problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Which link are you using for that?
Do not archive
=====================
--- Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean
> <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> I haven't tried those forms you are looking for, but
> just out of
> curiosity went
> to the FAA site and was surprised that they have
> finally addressed an old
> grievance---AD notes! They are now available
> although a little buggy, issues
> like scrolling, etc. If you use the search function
> you should be able
> to get
> what you want. Mechanics formerly had to pay good
> $$$ to subscribe from
> private services for the same stuff. -BB do not
> archive
>
> rowedl@highstream.net wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by:
> <rowedl@highstream.net>
> >
> >Kolbers,
> >I have tried over the course of the last 3 months
> to occasionally download ACs from the FAA websight,
> each time I get a plug-in error and a lot of times
> my computer locks up on me.
> >What the HECK am I doing wrong? Between this
> problem and my FSDO taking their good old time
> getting around to scheduling my inspection, I'm
> getting a little POed. :-I
> >Denny Rowe
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Southern Arizona
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| Subject: | Re: FAA web problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Go to FAA home/general aviation/ airworthiness directives -BB
CaptainRon wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>
>Which link are you using for that?
>
>Do not archive
>=====================
>--- Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean
>><slyck@frontiernet.net>
>>
>>I haven't tried those forms you are looking for, but
>>just out of
>>curiosity went
>>to the FAA site and was surprised that they have
>>finally addressed an old
>>grievance---AD notes! They are now available
>>although a little buggy, issues
>>like scrolling, etc. If you use the search function
>>you should be able
>>to get
>>what you want. Mechanics formerly had to pay good
>>$$$ to subscribe from
>>private services for the same stuff. -BB do not
>>archive
>>
>>rowedl@highstream.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kolb-List message posted by:
>>>
>>>
>><rowedl@highstream.net>
>>
>>
>>>Kolbers,
>>>I have tried over the course of the last 3 months
>>>
>>>
>>to occasionally download ACs from the FAA websight,
>>each time I get a plug-in error and a lot of times
>>my computer locks up on me.
>>
>>
>>>What the HECK am I doing wrong? Between this
>>>
>>>
>>problem and my FSDO taking their good old time
>>getting around to scheduling my inspection, I'm
>>getting a little POed. :-I
>>
>>
>>>Denny Rowe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne F.Wilson" <wfwilson1@yahoo.ca>
this is a test
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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| Subject: | Re: Kawasaki 340 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
> I recived the motor, single 32 mm carb, dual CDI Ignition, and starter.
Does
> anyone have an idea for a starter solenoid, voltage regulator, and
exhaust?
Try a Briggs & Straton selonoid on riding mowers, many auto parts stores
carry them.
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| Subject: | Re: Test posting |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
L&C, Wilson
Bob N.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: NOT AGAIN!!! HVLP VS. PRESSURE POT |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
All I wore was a mask. Maybe I am too old to be persuaded by those who fell
that everything is poisonous, but have been spraying lacquer, aircraft
dope, Stits and similar since I was 16, and am satisfied that unless you
are personally allergic to it, it won't hurt you. (Assuming you are not
doing it in a closed room!)
But if you are using anything with superglue in it - use a fresh air system.
Sorry, no knowledge on the pressure pot -
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 07:04 PM 4/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt"
><johndeereantique@qwest.net>
>
> Hello guys, i have been doing my research on HVLP systems and it
>seems that graco, devilbiss are the leaders in the industry there may be
>a few others but i did not want to spend 1800.00 on the top of the line,
>anyway my question is how many of you have used the pressure pot system
>or the capspray! it seems to me for only a couple hundred dollars more
>that would be the way to go particularly since my kolb is already built
>and i want to paint it a different color other than the juneau white and
>with this system you can apply paint in any attitude! thats right you
>can lay on your back and paint the underside of the wing, you can not do
>this with most systems. is it worth the difference and did you get good
>results with regular HVLP. also do you gents go with a fresh air system
>or just a half mask. maybe by my first flyin this year i can get this
>thing color coated!!!
>
> thanks in advance,
> Gary r. voigt
>
>
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