---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/06/03: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:58 AM - Firestar for sale (Joel Reed) 2. 06:59 AM - Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! (J.D. Stewart) 3. 08:01 AM - intercom for Kolb (AULSU@aol.com) 4. 08:24 AM - aileron and flap setup (boyd young) 5. 09:52 AM - Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! (Ben Ransom) 6. 10:43 AM - One more time... (Jim Gerken) 7. 03:54 PM - Re: ANR Headsets (Joe Allman) 8. 04:04 PM - Re: intercom for Kolb (Joe Allman) 9. 07:11 PM - Re: intercom for Kolb (Duncan McBride) 10. 07:45 PM - Re: ANR Headsets (MEMATUZAK@aol.com) 11. 07:51 PM - Re: intercom for Kolb (John Hauck) 12. 08:31 PM - Re: intercom for Kolb (Larry Cottrell) 13. 08:45 PM - Re: aileron and flap setup (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:34 AM PST US From: " Joel Reed" Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar for sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: " Joel Reed" Hello I have decided to sell my 84 Firestar and get a two seater Kolb of some kind. 1984 Kolb Firestar hourmeter incidates 160 hours. Rotax 377 two blade IVO prop airspeed incidator alimeter dual egt & cht tach fuel gauge BRS (pass repack date) brakes. 5 gallon fuel tank (also has extra on board 5 gallons for 10 gallon combined, easliy removed to make it FAR 103 legal.) The plane is in good overall shape, it still runs strong. Flies, runs, and performs great. It would not pass a beauty contest but it would make someone a great beginner plane. I fly it at least once a week. I have it posted on Barnstormers. asking $5500.00 or best offer. Located in south east Pennsylvania. Happy flying Joel ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:42 AM PST US From: "J.D. Stewart" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" It's not a Kolb, but I went through the same thing right up to the day the plane went into the paint shop last week. See http://www.ultrafunairsports.com/titanpaint.htm for some of my crazy paint ideas. No, I didn't design them. Most of them are actually custom paint jobs on Harley tanks. If you look closely, you can see the filler neck on some. I used Photoshop and cut out the insides of a Titan line drawing. I then pasted the paint job on a layer and moved it behind the line drawing. J.D. Stewart UltraFun AirSports http://www.ultrafunairsports.com Challenger Owners E-mail list and Website Administrator http://challenger.inebraska.com > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: > > Gary, > Make a bunch of photo copies of the top and side view drawings from your > construction manuals. Than go at it with colored pencils or markers until > you come up with a winner. > I must have drawn twenty different schemes before I hit the one I used. > Denny Rowe > Mk-3, PA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary robert voigt > To: > Subject: Kolb-List: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt" > > > > > Ok guys, as long as we are on this paint thing i have got a couple > > of questions... i'm going to paint it cub yellow and would like some > > paint scheme ideas for a novice painter. i have taken pics of my plane > > and then with photosuite drawn in some colors and stripes on the pc but > > it just looks average... did most of you steal other ideas or did you > > come up with your own or did you get them out of a model magazine. i > > want my plane to be a head turner and will spend a week taping if i have > > too. > > > > thanks in advance, > > Gary r. voigt > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:15 AM PST US From: AULSU@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: intercom for Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: AULSU@aol.com Help, I have been using a sigtronics transcom II portable intercom since 1997 in my Mk 3 and have had it repaired three times. If any has an intercom (portable) that he likes and is reasonable , please give me a recommendation. Tom Guidroz MKIII 259 Houma La. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:58 AM PST US From: "boyd young" Subject: Kolb-List: aileron and flap setup --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" >I never really thought why it does what it does >until now. All I know is that ailerons/flaps are >pushed down and not up while in flight. if the flaps pull down in flight then why do i have to apply considerable force to pull the flaps down? my flap handel has a small bit of play when in the up position. and while sitting on the ground the handle is against the bottom stop... when in the air the handel is against the top stop... now i am guessing that if the flalps were reflexed up considerable that may be true. but if riged as to the factory plans... they should be forced upward by the air movement.... now i saw that someone had mentioned the scaloping of the bottom of the wing as a cause.... i sugest that if you have that much slack in the wing bottom fabric, that you did not get the iron warm enough to properly taunt the fabric. boyd do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:21 AM PST US From: Ben Ransom Subject: Re: Kolb-List: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom Hi Gary, Follow-up clarification on the squares from my last email: Cut out a bunch of squares from some kind of masking paper. Make these a little smaller than the actual square size. You can use cheaper regular masking tape to tape these paper squares on top of the perimeter tape above. Now all of what will be the yellow squares is masked off with paper in the middle and good edge tape along the edges. Before painting, run your fingernail around the The regular masking tape edges should be back just a little from the outside edge of the good quality tape edges. BTW, I also used this tape to do the star and the stripes along the side of my plane. I also blended paint on the stripes so that they start out metallic silver next to the star and gradually change to full dark blue (no silver) by the back of the stripes. I just added a little more blue to the touch up gun's paint pot till near the back when I made sure it was only blue. This pic, http://mae.ucdavis.edu/ransom/BensAlbum/1997/cows1.html and unfortunately this one http://mae.ucdavis.edu/ransom/BensAlbum/jun99/spring99g.html show this part of my paint scheme. I will repeat it on the rebuild paint job as it will bring back my plane as the friend I remember it to be. :) -Ben --- Gary robert voigt wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary robert voigt" > > > Ok guys, as long as we are on this paint thing i have got a > couple > of questions... i'm going to paint it cub yellow and would like some > paint scheme ideas for a novice painter. i have taken pics of my > plane > and then with photosuite drawn in some colors and stripes on the pc > but > it just looks average... did most of you steal other ideas or did you > come up with your own or did you get them out of a model magazine. i > want my plane to be a head turner and will spend a week taping if i > have > too. > > thanks in advance, > Gary r. voigt > > > > > > > > ===== http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~ransom __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:53 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: One more time... From: "Jim Gerken" 05/06/2003 12:43:12 PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Gerken" Here's the complete description as promised, for the guys who responded asking for more information. This engine is in perfect shape and is going to make someone a real nice deal. Photos are available by direct E-mail, if desired, for serious shoppers. For Sale for some lucky Kolb builder... -1997 Rotax 582 Liquid cooled, Dual Carb, Dual Ignition , 170 hrs TT -Rotax Oil Injection system (Injection system presently removed and stored but is complete and in working order) -Rotax oil injection tank with low oil sender and head-mounting bracket set -Rotax side mount exhaust with Kolb Co. shock-mount brackets, no rust, rubber isolators replaced a year ago -Exhaust has High Performance Coatings chrome finish with lifetime recoat warrantee ($140 retail, beautiful chrome-like) -New exhaust springs this season -Rotax dual radiator setup with thermostat, all shock mounted brackets -Rotax radiator cap modified to produce a 7 psi working system -Coolant pressure gauge, stainless, liquid-filled -Coolant expansion tank, 8 oz, ignition plate mounted like RV oil tank -High Altitude Compensating (HAC)Bing carbs with very slick custom made HAC diaphragm mounting bracket with shock mount -Rotax (K&N) dual oval gauze air filter, 2 years old -NEW fuel pump this Spring -Extra carb jets and spark plugs -Rotax tool kit included -Rotax owners manual -Rotax Installation manual -Rotax Service manual -HAC calibration paperwork. I am original owner, engine has 170 hrs TT, all stock Rotax, top-end decarboned on regular intervals (2nd one 7 hours ago), perfect condition, runs great, presently flying as a pusher on a Kolb, will continue to fly until sold. I am going BMW 4-stroke. NO GEARBOX , I wish to keep the gearbox. All listed above for first $2750 (that's less than 1/2 of LEAF prices). I have original shipping crate and will package, buyer pays actual shipping costs. Add 170 hrs TT Rotax "C" box w/2.62:1 ratio, perfect condition $800 Add Powerfin "A" 3 blade 66" composite prop, very good condition $300 This combination of 582, C box 2.62:1, and 66" 3-blade Powerfin pushes my MKiii at 93 mph WOT level flight. Prop is of course ground adjustable and I can provide setup data. Prop bolt heads are drilled for safety wire. Jim Gerken 507-253-2454 days 507-753-2619 evenings Rochester Minnesota ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:32 PM PST US From: "Joe Allman" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ANR Headsets --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" Chuck, I use a Headsets Inc. kit but I'm not sure of the model. At any rate, I've been very, very, pleased with the performance. Joe ss 582 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Davis - Comcast Subject: Kolb-List: ANR Headsets --> Kolb-List message posted by: Chuck Davis - Comcast Any one have experiance with Headsets, Inc's M-01 ANR inset kits? Thanks Chuck Davis ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:51 PM PST US From: "Joe Allman" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: intercom for Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" Aside from the frequent repairs- did the squelch/voice activation work in your Kolb. I have one someone gave me on the cheap and I wondering if it's worth messing with. Thanks, Joe -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of AULSU@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: intercom for Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: AULSU@aol.com Help, I have been using a sigtronics transcom II portable intercom since 1997 in my Mk 3 and have had it repaired three times. If any has an intercom (portable) that he likes and is reasonable , please give me a recommendation. Tom Guidroz MKIII 259 Houma La. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:26 PM PST US From: Duncan McBride Subject: Re: Kolb-List: intercom for Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride I have a Sigtronics Transcom I bought in 1985 and used for instrument training - at the time few planes were equipped with intercoms and I used the audio out to tape the dual instruction - it was a good way to review the flight and radio work. Anyway, I hadn't used it in ten years or more and when I hooked it up in the Kolb, the squelch knob was a little loose and I couldn't get it to squelch in the Kolb cockpit. I sent it back to Sigtronics and ordered the high noise version upgrade at the same time - $20 for the upgrade and $7 to fix the squelch pot and $5 shipping. It works great now - with the 912 at 5000 rpm and the squelch about half way the vox works perfectly. Sure can't complain about the service. I'm sorry to hear yours needed frequent repair. I guess mine had about 60 hours on it and ten or twelve years on the shelf before it had a problem. Not so bad. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Allman" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: intercom for Kolb > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" > > Aside from the frequent repairs- did the squelch/voice activation work in > your Kolb. > > I have one someone gave me on the cheap and I wondering if it's worth > messing with. > > Thanks, > > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of AULSU@aol.com > To: kolb-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: intercom for Kolb > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: AULSU@aol.com > > > Help, > I have been using a sigtronics transcom II portable intercom since 1997 in > my > Mk 3 and have had it repaired three times. If any has an intercom > (portable) > that he likes and is reasonable , please give me a recommendation. > > Tom Guidroz MKIII 259 Houma La. > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:53 PM PST US From: MEMATUZAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ANR Headsets --> Kolb-List message posted by: MEMATUZAK@aol.com Ya, I put them in my D Clarks. Having been using them for about 50 hrs. The other day the battery went down while flying and this noise like the engine coming apart startled me but all appeared well. Then I realized that the ANR was not working. I love them!! Mem FSII 200hrs Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:41 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: intercom for Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck It works > great now - with the 912 at 5000 rpm and the squelch about half way the vox > works perfectly. Joe/Duncan/Gang: I have been using a Sigtronics SPA400 since the MK III was built, 11 years. A couple years ago got it updated to a SPA400N for high noise environment. Works good. No problems. john h ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:51 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: intercom for Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" I just bought the sig. spo20 hn. It has a feature that you can plug in a cd player for those long trips. I have found that the music is a bit low to enjoy, but the intercom is just great. It has a sidetone that allows you to hear yourself when you are talking to the tower. That means a lot to me. I never could get over not hearing myself talk. The Mark III that I just bought had a intercom of some GA type that was just terrible, you couldn't hear each other at more than 4800 rpm's. I plugged in the sigtronics and the relief was immediate. Larry ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:57 PM PST US From: John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: aileron and flap setup --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck > if the flaps pull down in flight then why do i have to apply considerable force to pull the flaps down? my flap handel has a small bit of play when in the up position. and while sitting on the ground the handle is against the bottom stop... when in the air the handel is against the top stop... Boyd/Gang: Flew my MK III for the first time in almost two months,late this afternoon. Flap controls were a little stiff, like me, from sitting without use, but when released from the clean position that drop to about halfway between clean and first notch which is about 10 deg. They do not fly up, but down aprx'ly 10 deg. > now i saw that someone had mentioned the scaloping of the bottom of the wing as a cause.... i sugest that if you have that much slack in the wing bottom fabric, that you did not get the iron warm enough to properly taunt the fabric. I'll let you check out the tauntness of the fabric on the bottom of my wings when I get to Monument Valley. I have never flown a Kolb that did not push the fabric up into a concave shape. When in flight, and I heat shrink all my fabric to the max, the bottom fabric will depress. If it depresses it is concave. Hard wing cover is the only way to get a flat bottom wing. john h > > boyd > > do not archive >