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1. 05:25 AM - Re: Fly-In at Winchester VA (James, Ken)
2. 06:13 AM - Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! (GeoR38@aol.com)
3. 06:49 AM - Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! (Hugh)
4. 08:01 AM - Woody's MKIII mods (Richard Pike)
5. 08:27 AM - Camping at Monument Valley (Larry Bourne)
6. 08:40 AM - Mark 3 for sale (FRED2319@aol.com)
7. 09:08 AM - Re: Mark 3 for sale (Doug Wetzel)
8. 10:59 AM - Re: Mark 3 for sale (FRED2319@aol.com)
9. 11:04 AM - Re: Mark 3 for sale (FRED2319@aol.com)
10. 07:41 PM - Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! (woody)
11. 07:45 PM - Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! (GeoR38@aol.com)
12. 07:57 PM - test ()
13. 08:23 PM - Re: Woody's MKIII mods (woody)
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| Subject: | Fly-In at Winchester VA |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Bob
Did you know a old marine pilot names Ray " Dallas" Wells he passed away
awhile ago he was from Winchester, I lived there about 12 years ago .
Reply of page if you like
Kjamesdesign@yahoo.com
Ken
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From: Bob N. [mailto:ronoy@shentel.net]
Subject: Kolb-List: Fly-In at Winchester VA
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
EAA ch 186 will have their Spring Fly-In at Winchester (VA) Regional
Airport (OKV)Saturday & Sunday May 17,18.
No FAA tower, just friendly folks welcoming anything that flies,
including ULs (fat, thin, reg'ler). EAA judging.
Pancake breakfast both days, soda &hamburg stand right on ramp. 100LL
available, if a fellow ULer needs
Mogas I can take cans to nearby gas station (2 mi). Five motels within
2-3 miles, at least five more a coupla miles further. Tie downs
available--bring rope if all used up here.
Here are the radio freqs:
CTAF/UNICOM 122.7 APPR/DEP 120.45 CLRNC DEL 126.15 WX AWOS-3 124.85
Contact me for any questions.
Y'all come, heah?
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 5/7/03 5:26:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
duesouth@govital.net writes:
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
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> At 10:44 PM 5/5/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
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> >]
> >] Go in the archives and find a picture of my Thunderbird. It is a simple
> >straight line paint scheme that attracts a lot of attention.
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>
> I meant go to the photo share and look for my flying totem pole
> "THUNDERBIRD"
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>
> I looked but couldn't find it ....maybe if you gave the date?
George Randolph
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| Subject: | Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hugh" <hmhumes@attbi.com>
Try this:
Nov 16, 02 shows the paint scheme
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/duesouth@govital.net.11.16.2002/
There are some other photos on 2/18 & 3/2/02
do not archive
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From: <GeoR38@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
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> In a message dated 5/7/03 5:26:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> duesouth@govital.net writes:
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> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
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> > At 10:44 PM 5/5/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
> > >
> > >
> > >]
> > >] Go in the archives and find a picture of my Thunderbird. It is a
simple
> > >straight line paint scheme that attracts a lot of attention.
> >
> >
> > I meant go to the photo share and look for my flying totem pole
> > "THUNDERBIRD"
> >
> >
> > I looked but couldn't find it ....maybe if you gave the date?
> George Randolph
>
>
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| Subject: | Woody's MKIII mods |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
You widened the MKIII fuselage at the back and also changed the airfoil,
and the relationship of the gap seal to the wing. How about a report on how
those mods have worked out? Pros? Cons? Enquiring minds want to know...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 05:30 PM 5/7/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
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>Go in the archives and find a picture of my Thunderbird.
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| Subject: | Camping at Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I've just received an email from a friend who was camped at Goulding's in Monument
Valley last week. He says it's a nice place and all, but there are groups
coming in around the end of the time we'll be there, and there won't be any RV
campsites. I took the advice the other week, and have reservations for my camper,
but if you haven't yet, you'd better. Lar. Do
not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com
Hi Guys I still have my Mark 3,582 B drive 5 hr. sense rebuild for sale. No
one has came and looked at it had a bunch of calls.
Fred Brown Ohio 419 694 4315 $14000
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Doug Wetzel <dougwe@wrq.com>
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Pictures, Fred?
Doug Wetzel
Seattle, WA
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From: FRED2319@aol.com [mailto:FRED2319@aol.com]
Subject: Kolb-List: Mark 3 for sale
- --> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com
Hi Guys I still have my Mark 3,582 B drive 5 hr. sense rebuild for
sale. No
one has came and looked at it had a bunch of calls.
Fred Brown Ohio 419 694 4315 $14000
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| Subject: | Re: Mark 3 for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Mark 3 for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: FRED2319@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
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> > I looked but couldn't find it ....maybe if you gave the date?
>George Randolph
It should be after sept Kolb Picnic. Perhaps do a search for my name on
the kolb Photoshare. I will try to find it later or I could send it to you
off list. I am having trouble with my scanner so I can't send you a newer one.
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| Subject: | Re: COLOR AND STRIPING IDEAS!!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 5/8/03 10:41:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
duesouth@govital.net writes:
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>
>
> It should be after sept Kolb Picnic. Perhaps do a search for my name on
> the kolb Photoshare. I will try to find it later or I could send it to you
> off list. I am having trouble with my scanner so I can't send you a newer
> one.
>
no problem, woody, I found it ....looks great...and I remembered it from
before.
George Randolph
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
h sjyjhm
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| Subject: | Re: Woody's MKIII mods |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
At 11:01 AM 5/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
>You widened the MKIII fuselage at the back and also changed the airfoil,
>and the relationship of the gap seal to the wing. How about a report on how
>those mods have worked out? Pros? Cons? Enquiring minds want to know...
Where to begin?????
I was going to wait untill I had more experience with it before I
wrote up a review. The initial problem I have with it is extremely heavy
ailerons. Yesterday I finished installing the aileron balances and spade
combination. I am hoping this will alleviate some of the heavyness. Because
of this I did not do any real testing of the performance. I did enjoy some
nice flights however, just needed a lot of muscle to turn it. This may be
due to a mistake I made fabricating the ailerons. Late at night I was
building them and in my infinite wisdom made the ailerons half the span of
the wing and the flaps the other half. Unfortunately I forgot about that
little gap there that the prop spins in so my flaps turned out to be only a
couple feet long. These big ailerons are hard to move. The ailerons also do
not come out to the wing tips.
The aircraft does break ground about 32 mph and I have had it up to 85
accidentally. I want to keep it slower until I have doors on it. The wing
airfoil came out of one of the EAA flying and glider manuals and was used
on the Flying Bathtub. Impressive performance numbers and the same physical
sizes and weights as a Kolb.
The fuselage tapers at a 4/1 ratio from the wide point of the fuselage
and ends abruptly 6 inches before the prop. My theory is that in a factory
Kolb the air breaks away from the side at that wide point and causes drag.
My air stays on the side until it is ready to go into the prop. Due to the
extensive designs modifications I have made it is hard to tell what one
specific element did to the performance.
The nose is carved out of styrofoam and then fiberglassed. Doing this
in the confines of a hanger it looked good. Once out and painted and I was
able to stand a distance away from it I noticed the nose sort of droops
down like a concord coming in for a landing. I was out in the hanger
tonight adding stringers to get rid of that distraction. I will be gluing
the fabric on with contact cement and then heat sealing the bond surfaces
with the iron and then heat shrinking the fabric. I am going to try a white
varathane paint rather than go to the bother of mixing up the 2 part
automotive paint and wearing the respirator again.
I mounted the 582 engine 2 inches farther back than plans call for. The
engine mount holes are now in line with the engine case holes. I use a
heavy battery in the front to counteract this but the weight and balance
did not show the engine shift to be very significant for the CG. I will be
installing a Jabiru after I get a couple more flights in with this present
configuration.
My Kolb also is defined as a parasol wing. The cabin does not run up
into the leading edge. There is a 5 inch gap between the top of the cockpit
and the bottom surface of my non removable gap seal. My theory on that was
to gain an extra 3 feet of wing area and eliminate the drag caused by 2
separate wings in this area. It also gave me the design opportunity to make
the cockpit sleeker and lower like a sports car rather than an old station
wagon. I wish TNK would give me an opportunity to redesign the front
enclosure of the Kolbra. A new pod could be built without changing the
steel structure. It would sell a lot better if it was prettier.
Not much else to say about it at this time except that my bottom tail
wires are a bit different. My wire tangs are permanently bolted to the tail
post. The wires are connected to these tangs with a clevis, a bolt, wing
nut and a safety pin on each side. I find it easier to hook them up and the
brace wires are tighter.
I just discovered I did not post a bottom inflight picture to photo
share. I did now so some day soon matt will post a new bunch of pictures
and it will be there. If interested I can send it on request.
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