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1. 12:01 AM - Re: zinc oxide (Larry Bourne)
2. 12:07 AM - Re: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood (Larry Bourne)
3. 06:12 AM - Re: Kolb Twinstar For Sale (KolbTwinstar@aol.com)
4. 06:12 AM - Re: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
5. 06:17 AM - Re: Mark III VG's (Larry Cottrell)
6. 06:23 AM - What's wrong with an original Ultrastar? (Ed Steuber)
7. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: Mark III VG's (Richard Pike)
8. 07:23 AM - pilot cg (boyd young)
9. 07:44 AM - Re: Insurance (VIC)
10. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: Insurance (Larry Bourne)
11. 09:12 AM - Re: pilot cg ()
12. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: pilot cg (Terry)
13. 10:49 AM - Re: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood (kuffel)
14. 02:10 PM - Re: Prop Spacer (DAquaNut@aol.com)
15. 02:52 PM - Re: Prop Spacer (Jack & Louise Hart)
16. 04:53 PM - Re: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood (Larry Bourne)
17. 05:02 PM - Great News!! (Paul Petty)
18. 06:40 PM - Original Firestar rear bellcrank (Ed Bonsell)
19. 06:49 PM - Re: Great News!! (Richard Swiderski)
20. 06:58 PM - Re: Prop Spacer (Richard Swiderski)
21. 08:10 PM - Re: Re: Insurance (jerb)
22. 08:15 PM - Re: Prop Spacer (jerb)
23. 08:21 PM - 582 for sale (Mhqqqqq@aol.com)
24. 08:27 PM - Re: Great News!! (Larry Bourne)
25. 09:26 PM - Aero Vee 2002 (NBD)
26. 09:37 PM - Re: Great News!! ()
27. 09:49 PM - Re: Aero Vee 2002 ()
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
In the same vein......................I ordered a sheet of lexan a couple of
years ago, cut in 1/2, so that it'd ship in a 4 ft square package. Had to
come by truck from Corona to here - about 60 miles, and about a dollar a
mile. Next time, I'll go get it myself. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Davis - Comcast" <davis207@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: zinc oxide
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Chuck Davis - Comcast
<davis207@comcast.net>
>
> I was doing a little shopping in Aircraft Spruce. A spray can of Zinc
Oxide
> primer is $6.80. However, the additional shipping due to a "hazardous
item"
> is over $20.
>
>
> When I added a quart of tube seal (smallest size available) the shipping
> charges went up another 30+ USD.
>
>
> Can any one suggest some alternatives / alternative sources (local
> availability?) that are not so economically non-sensible?
>
>
> Chuck Davis
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, my thoughts exactly, but you seldom see 'em here, and ferociously
expensive when you do. Figured I'd wait till I get to Prescott, AZ and look
in the markets there. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>
> What about them fire place log they sell by the case. They actually work
> pretty good for camp fires and last just about a whole evening. Used to
> use them at Oshkosh.
> jerb
>
> At 10:02 AM 5/12/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> >Good thought. I'll see what I can find.................tho' there's no
> >firewood here in the desert, either. Anyone else ??
> >Lar. Do not Archive.
> >
> >Larry Bourne
> >Palm Springs, CA
> >Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> >www.gogittum.com
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
> ><Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
> > >
> > > Kolb Friends -
> > >
> > > There's been lots of talk about folks who are driving and bringing
folding
> > > chairs and things to drink.
> > > But here's another item that we should consider: There is NO firewood
to
> >be
> > > found in that area. Could somebody who's driving (Big Lar ??)
possibly
> > > bring some firewood? An evening campfire is a great end-of-day place
to
> > > share stories & fellowship with our other group members - would hate
to
> >miss
> > > out on that aspect of a campout!
> > >
> > > Dennis Kirby
> > > New Mexico
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: KolbTwinstar@aol.com
Due to cutbacks at my job I'm forced to sell my Kolb.
Kolb aircraft N560TB
New Rotax 503CDI with a new ground adjustable Warp Prop
Paint (Poly Tone) is white with blue and black trim
Fly's Great!
Asking $10,950
I also have a 24ft. fully enclosed trailer with electric hoist I would sell
with it if needed. Plus kolb accessories.
Tracy Briggs
74 Gallop Lane
Wentzville Mo. 63385
314-258-1061
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Subject: | Re: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
I've got quite a bit of wood - construction stuff. It's what we use at
Bluegrass festivals. I'll bring at least three boxes, which should be
plenty for what we'll need. Y'don't have to spend the $$$ to buy the stuff
because I'll have plenty.
AzDave
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>
> What about them fire place log they sell by the case. They actually work
> pretty good for camp fires and last just about a whole evening. Used to
> use them at Oshkosh.
> jerb
>
> At 10:02 AM 5/12/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> >Good thought. I'll see what I can find.................tho' there's no
> >firewood here in the desert, either. Anyone else ??
> >Lar. Do not Archive.
> >
> >Larry Bourne
> >Palm Springs, CA
> >Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> >www.gogittum.com
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
> ><Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
> > >
> > > Kolb Friends -
> > >
> > > There's been lots of talk about folks who are driving and bringing
folding
> > > chairs and things to drink.
> > > But here's another item that we should consider: There is NO firewood
to
> >be
> > > found in that area. Could somebody who's driving (Big Lar ??)
possibly
> > > bring some firewood? An evening campfire is a great end-of-day place
to
> > > share stories & fellowship with our other group members - would hate
to
> >miss
> > > out on that aspect of a campout!
> > >
> > > Dennis Kirby
> > > New Mexico
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Mark III VG's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Has anybody out there put VG's on a Mark III yet? The performance of the
Mark III with flaps is great, but I keep wondering ????
Thanks,
Larry
do not archive
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Subject: | What's wrong with an original Ultrastar? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
Ronnie,
The original Ultrastar is a great machine as is....the original intentions
for the design were met but with any good design there is always somebody
that thinks he can make it better......My problem was created by myself after
modifying the cage by streamlining it and putting in a center line stick. The
Ultrastar was cruising at much higher cruise speeds and with normal Cuyuna
power settings was going too fast for the aileron response that was very disturbing
when a steep bank was initiated at these higher speeds. The Ultrastar would
tend to stay in the bank or increase it even with opposite aileron. Top rudder
was usually the way to get it level again but it just did not feel right
to this old Agcat pilot. Usually when you change something on a homebuilt you
create a chain reaction that you start chasing and sometimes never catch.....but
I don't take my own advice and just go nuts...
Richard...I really want to add the ends to the ailerons and incorporate
the balance weights.... I was already thinking about a solution to the .028
tubes.....to err on the safe side I was thinking of replacing both with .049
and adding some angle to the bottom wing ribs (as per previous advice) for
added compression strength to help the wing warp at higher cruise speeds. I am
also adding the steel ring at the butt rib for the same reason.....I think I
will also make the end hinge much longer to take the extra load at the wing tip.......more
weight and no longer a true ultralight....the chain reaction keeps
getting worse....now I gotta get it inspected cause it will be too heavy...
AAARGH !
Ronnie... don't change a thing ! ! Just fly it and "be happy"
.
Tinkeritis Ed in Western NY
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Subject: | Re: Mark III VG's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Not yet, but soon...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 06:18 AM 5/13/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
>Has anybody out there put VG's on a Mark III yet? The performance of the
>Mark III with flaps is great, but I keep wondering ????
>Thanks,
>Larry
>do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Mk-3 drivers,
What figure did you all use for the pilot/passenger cg point when working your
weight and balance sheets?
I get 2.5 to 3 inches in front of the leading edge datum point, just want to check
against what others measured.
Denny Rowe
Denny when i weighed a couple months ago i weighed the plane empty then with me
in it... subtracted out the diferences in the wheel weights and calculated -3
1/2 inches..... for what it is worth i do not have original seats.... but they
are very close to the cg figures i had with the original.
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "VIC" <vicw@vcn.com>
Bill and others looking for insurance:
I am the committee chairperson for the USUA insurance committee and USUA is
working very hard to find insurance. We have some leads but at this time we
have not been able to put together a program. If anyone knows a company
offering insurance, please let me know so I can contact them. I recommend
you monitor the USUA Web page www.usua.org to keep up to date on what is
going on with insurance.
USUA had offered insurance for $155 but only 300 people purchased the
coverage so the underwriter pulled the plug on the program. That left
Mahoney as the lone source for insurance and they are no longer taking phone
calls. I was told that JMB Insurance www.jmbins.com could write a $250,000
policy with a $5,000 deductible for $750 per year. JMB is not endorsed by
USUA.
I anyone can help with the insurance problem, please contact me.
Vic
Do Not Archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I re-newed my policies with Avemco just yesterday, and was told that they
wouldn't offer any form of insurance once the plane is powered. Not just
for flight............when the engine is running. Told me to try Falcon
Insurance, thru EAA. I'm sure you've probably tried them, but just in
case............................. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "VIC" <vicw@vcn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Insurance
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "VIC" <vicw@vcn.com>
>
> Bill and others looking for insurance:
>
> I am the committee chairperson for the USUA insurance committee and USUA
is
> working very hard to find insurance. We have some leads but at this time
we
> have not been able to put together a program. If anyone knows a company
> offering insurance, please let me know so I can contact them. I recommend
> you monitor the USUA Web page www.usua.org to keep up to date on what is
> going on with insurance.
>
> USUA had offered insurance for $155 but only 300 people purchased the
> coverage so the underwriter pulled the plug on the program. That left
> Mahoney as the lone source for insurance and they are no longer taking
phone
> calls. I was told that JMB Insurance www.jmbins.com could write a
$250,000
> policy with a $5,000 deductible for $750 per year. JMB is not endorsed by
> USUA.
>
> I anyone can help with the insurance problem, please contact me.
>
> Vic
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Thanks Boyd,
It looks like I am going with the 3 inch measurement for FAA inspection, if I use
2.5" my cg goes past 37% with emty tanks and my 185# butt in the seat.
Using 3" I just make it inside the rear cg limit throughout my fuel range which
is 0 - 60 pounds.
This baby is going to be quite the hauler, with full fuel and myself, I have 280#
of room under the max gross limit of 1000#.
My foreward cg limit of 20% cord would require a 450# passenger with a belly button
12 inches in front of mine to reach. We should have plenty of elevator trim
to handle passengers.
One problem I have is that my co-owner Jay Swager only weighs 145# soaking wet,
so I'll have to come up with some kind of removable ballast on the passenger
side floor pan for Jay to fly solo.
The 23rd is coming fast, I'm still trying to get all the i's dotted and t ' s crossed
before inspector man gets here.
Denny
Mk-3 N616DR Leechburg PA
----- Original Message -----
From: boyd young
To: kolb-list@matronics.com ; rowedl@highstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: pilot cg
Mk-3 drivers,
What figure did you all use for the pilot/passenger cg point when working your
weight and balance sheets?
I get 2.5 to 3 inches in front of the leading edge datum point, just want to
check
against what others measured.
Denny Rowe
Denny when i weighed a couple months ago i weighed the plane empty then with
me in it... subtracted out the diferences in the wheel weights and calculated
-3 1/2 inches..... for what it is worth i do not have original seats.... but
they are very close to the cg figures i had with the original.
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry" <tswartz@hydrosoft.net>
Denny,
I weigh 165# and did the removable ballast thing when testing my plane. I
fastened a small duffel bag in the nose, got some lead shot, packaged it in
zip lock bags, 5 lbs per bag, put them in the duffel bag and zipped it shut.
I was then able to remove 5 lbs at a time and test fly. I no longer use any
ballast.
Terry
One problem I have is that my co-owner Jay Swager only weighs 145# soaking
wet, so I'll have to come up with some kind of removable ballast on the
passenger side floor pan for Jay to fly solo.
The 23rd is coming fast, I'm still trying to get all the i's dotted and t '
s crossed before inspector man gets here.
Denny
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Subject: | Re: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: kuffel <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Big Lar sez:
<<tho' there's no firewood here in the desert, either. Anyone else ??>>
I can also bring some firewood. And if it catches fire in the air I can
put it out with the beer.
do not archive
Tom Kuffel
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group,
Im getting ready to order the 447 engine kit for my firefly now
that I finally finnished building my enclosed trailer. Does the firefly come
with a prop spacer or does it need one? I was at a flyin last weekend &
there was a guy there with a firestar11 . He showed me the ding he had in the
aileron tube. He said that he got the ding when the Ivo prop struck the tube
just after start up. It looked like he had plenty of clearance. Is the Ivo
more prone to this problem or is it a problem with all composite props? I
just want to do all I can to keek this from happening to me
Comments,
Ed ( in Houston)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 05:08 PM 5/13/03 EDT, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Group,
> Im getting ready to order the 447 engine kit for my firefly now
>that I finally finnished building my enclosed trailer. Does the firefly come
>with a prop spacer or does it need one? I was at a flyin last weekend &
>there was a guy there with a firestar11 . He showed me the ding he had in the
>aileron tube. He said that he got the ding when the Ivo prop struck the tube
>just after start up. It looked like he had plenty of clearance. Is the Ivo
>more prone to this problem or is it a problem with all composite props? I
>just want to do all I can to keek this from happening to me
>
> Comments,
> Ed ( in Houston)
>
Ed,
A prop spacer is a good idea. Mine came with the parts kit that included the IVO
propeller too from the old Kolb Company. I assume the spacer was made by IVO.
The best I remember is that IVO recommends a minimum of five inch clearance
between the blade and the nearest part of the plane.
It is easy to measure how close the propeller comes to the aileron tubes while
flying. See:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly83.html
Good luck,
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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Subject: | Re: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Don't waste good beer ! ! ! JUMP ! ! ! Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "kuffel" <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley - Campfire Wood
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: kuffel <kuffel@cyberport.net>
>
> Big Lar sez:
>
> <<tho' there's no firewood here in the desert, either. Anyone else ??>>
>
> I can also bring some firewood. And if it catches fire in the air I can
> put it out with the beer.
>
> do not archive
>
> Tom Kuffel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
I sold the Buell today!!! Called Linda @ TNK and set up a visit for 5/23/03. Plan
to ride in the M3X and order kit 1.
Getting fired up here!!!
pp....
N4958P
Do not archive
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Subject: | Original Firestar rear bellcrank |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Bonsell" <ebonsell@earthlink.net>
.....there was a problem with the weld on the aft bellcrank breaking on a few......
Thanks for the responses Ralph and John,
This also happened to a Firestar kept outside at the field I flew out of. It was
surmised that the plane was left tied down for an unknown period of time without
the stick tied down. The resulting whipping back and forth in the wind eventually
broke the weld.
I have seen my ailerons whip back and forth so I always tie the stick down when
I'm not in it outside.
A quick builder for the old Kolb Co. I know said they started sending out the little
Z shaped fittings after a few bolts broke.
Does anyone know the specs? I checked my bolt and there are no sign of cracks.
I was never very heavy handed on the stick but as long as I'm rebuilding I might
as well put one on.
Sincerely,
Ed Bonsell
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Subject: | Re: Great News!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Way to go Paul! When you have it built and your Harley is mounted on
top, and you are strapped inside with a grin on your face, you'll be in Hog
Heaven. Hey, maybe that might just be a possible name?!
Richard Swiderski
SlingShot waiting for its Turbo Sprint
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Great News!!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> I sold the Buell today!!! Called Linda @ TNK and set up a visit for
5/23/03. Plan to ride in the M3X and order kit 1.
>
> Getting fired up here!!!
>
>
> pp....
> N4958P
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
Ed,
If Rotax just would come out of the Stone Age and put an advance curve
in their ignition so we wouldn't have to start our engines at full advance,
and watch our planes go through the shakes on every start, no one would need
a spacer. But as it is, Ivo's are best used with a spacer.
...Richard Swiderski
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAquaNut@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Prop Spacer
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Group,
> Im getting ready to order the 447 engine kit for my firefly now
> that I finally finnished building my enclosed trailer. Does the firefly
come
> with a prop spacer or does it need one? I was at a flyin last weekend &
> there was a guy there with a firestar11 . He showed me the ding he had in
the
> aileron tube. He said that he got the ding when the Ivo prop struck the
tube
> just after start up. It looked like he had plenty of clearance. Is the Ivo
> more prone to this problem or is it a problem with all composite props? I
> just want to do all I can to keek this from happening to me
>
> Comments,
> Ed ( in Houston)
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
The reason you only got 300 was the stipulations you had. Their were so
many USUA you had ta's, that it severely limited who could qualify or would
want to go through all the bull. Last time I seen it I would have to be a
member, register as a pilot, and have completed a training course with a
BFI flying a type of airplane that I do not fly. I couldn't
qualify. Being GA background and sticking to 3 axis aircraft, I found I
had little difficulty making the transition to UL aircraft. My hangar
partner and myself would have purchased liability for that amount and maybe
memberships but ..... to many hoops and too much entanglement to make
money within USUA at the time. I'm more interested in liability and
protection for fire or theft, less interest for hull in motion. Nobody is
listening here, not EAA, nor USUA. Head up their ass AOPA just wants to
provides sources for life insurance while their membership needed hangar
and liability insurance. As a result USUA only gets the subscription fee
for UL Flying magazine and may not get that much longer.
Fed up with the abc org's,
jerb
At 08:41 AM 5/13/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "VIC" <vicw@vcn.com>
>
>Bill and others looking for insurance:
>
>I am the committee chairperson for the USUA insurance committee and USUA is
>working very hard to find insurance. We have some leads but at this time we
>have not been able to put together a program. If anyone knows a company
>offering insurance, please let me know so I can contact them. I recommend
>you monitor the USUA Web page www.usua.org to keep up to date on what is
>going on with insurance.
>
>USUA had offered insurance for $155 but only 300 people purchased the
>coverage so the underwriter pulled the plug on the program. That left
>Mahoney as the lone source for insurance and they are no longer taking phone
>calls. I was told that JMB Insurance www.jmbins.com could write a $250,000
>policy with a $5,000 deductible for $750 per year. JMB is not endorsed by
>USUA.
>
>I anyone can help with the insurance problem, please contact me.
>
>Vic
>
>Do Not Archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
When I got my FireFly kit back in 95, it was part of the engine/prop
kit. Not sure what the new company includes. Dennis told me the spacer
put the prop in cleaner air thus reducing the vibration and noise level as
blades passed the trailing edge of the wing.
jerb
At 04:50 PM 5/13/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
>At 05:08 PM 5/13/03 EDT, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
> >
> >
> > Group,
> > Im getting ready to order the 447 engine kit for my firefly now
> >that I finally finnished building my enclosed trailer. Does the firefly
> come
> >with a prop spacer or does it need one? I was at a flyin last weekend &
> >there was a guy there with a firestar11 . He showed me the ding he had
> in the
> >aileron tube. He said that he got the ding when the Ivo prop struck the
> tube
> >just after start up. It looked like he had plenty of clearance. Is the Ivo
> >more prone to this problem or is it a problem with all composite props? I
> >just want to do all I can to keek this from happening to me
> >
> > Comments,
> > Ed ( in Houston)
> >
>Ed,
>
>A prop spacer is a good idea. Mine came with the parts kit that included
>the IVO propeller too from the old Kolb Company. I assume the spacer was
>made by IVO. The best I remember is that IVO recommends a minimum of five
>inch clearance between the blade and the nearest part of the plane.
>
>It is easy to measure how close the propeller comes to the aileron tubes
>while flying. See:
>
>http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly83.html
>
>Good luck,
>
>Jack B. Hart FF004
>Jackson, MO
>
>
>Jack & Louise Hart
>jbhart@ldd.net
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
I saw a few weeks ago Jim gerken has his 582 for sale, I know jim and if I
needed a 582 I would jump on this and think more of it than a new one, this
engine has been great for him and I know how much detail he put into taking
care of it.
anyone who needs a 582 should grab this one, it is better than new.
mark
twinstar
minnesota
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Subject: | Re: Great News!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
That IS great news, Paul. Just to keep you interested; until that thing
flies, remember - you'll only own a "Ground-Hawg." What'll it be when
flying ?? "Hawg-Heaven ??" Hmmmm, lessee.....................Cessna made
the "Sky Hawk," so maybe yours can be the "Sky Hawg ??" :-) Good
Luck to ya ! ! ! Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Great News!!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> I sold the Buell today!!! Called Linda @ TNK and set up a visit for
5/23/03. Plan to ride in the M3X and order kit 1.
>
> Getting fired up here!!!
>
>
> pp....
> N4958P
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "NBD" <mk3@bailinair.com>
Has anyone looked at the Aero Vee 2002 engine as a possibility for use on
the MKIII?
http://www.aeroconversions.com
Regards
Noel
Kolb MK III Classic
New Hampshire
http://www.bailinair.com
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Subject: | Re: Great News!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Congrats Paul!
You will be starting your Kolb journey on the same day I hope to be getting
my Airworthiness certificate.
Good Luck.
Denny Rowe
Mk-3 N616DR PA
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Petty <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Great News!!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> I sold the Buell today!!! Called Linda @ TNK and set up a visit for
5/23/03. Plan to ride in the M3X and order kit 1.
>
> Getting fired up here!!!
>
>
> pp....
> N4958P
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Aero Vee 2002 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Noel,
The direct drive VW's are better suited for the faster planes like the
Sonex. At Kolb speeds, you need a reduction on the VW's to get good
performaance. Than they get a little on the heavy side, but we do have a
few Mk-3 drivers here on the list with reductions on their VW's, some flying
and at least one soon to be.
Denny Rowe
Mk-3, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: NBD <mk3@bailinair.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Aero Vee 2002
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "NBD" <mk3@bailinair.com>
>
> Has anyone looked at the Aero Vee 2002 engine as a possibility for use on
> the MKIII?
>
> http://www.aeroconversions.com
>
>
> Regards
> Noel
> Kolb MK III Classic
> New Hampshire
> http://www.bailinair.com
>
>
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