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Sun 05/25/03


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 06:19 AM - Wing Cart (Mike Pierzina)
     2. 06:43 AM - Re: KXP?????????? (Kirk Smith)
     3. 07:05 AM - Tandem vs Side By Side ? (Larry Austin)
     4. 08:29 AM - Re: Tandem vs Side By Side ? (Larry Bourne)
     5. 10:47 AM - Re: Tandem vs Side By Side ? (Duncan McBride)
     6. 11:45 AM - reflections (Paul Petty)
     7. 01:41 PM - Re: KXP?????????? ()
     8. 05:05 PM - flap deflection (Russell Phillips)
     9. 05:25 PM - Re: flap deflection (Richard Pike)
    10. 05:50 PM - Re: Tandem vs Side By Side ? (Richard Pike)
    11. 10:10 PM - Re: KXP?????????? (Don Gherardini)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:19:13 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
    Subject: Wing Cart
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> Denny, I "Found" my cart....But I saw "Harbor Freight" sells them for $14 ....If they don't have a store by you ( they don't have many ) you can look them up on the internet. They do alot of mail orders. Gotta Fly... Mike DO NOT ARCHIVE From: <rowedl@highstream.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Rack --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Mike, The photos worked fine, where did you buy the cart? Denny --- Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail!


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    Time: 06:43:14 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: KXP??????????
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> Thanks everybody for the info on the KXP. Today is a day that airplanes aren't to important to me. 2 years ago, my wife of 28+ years left. It was tough being in this old house alone. A friend told me I should get a dog for companionship. I got me a little Chocalate lab and named her Cocoa. Kept her in the house with me. She slept by the bed at night, chased sticks in the pond, dug holes everywhere. She was truly a joy and angel of grace in my life. Yesterday as we were working in the yard I wasn't paying attention for a moment. I heard brakes screeching and a gut wrenching thump. My little Cocoa lay in the road breathing her last breaths of life. She died in my arms. My heart is aching today. Do not archive


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    Time: 07:05:46 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net>
    Subject: Tandem vs Side By Side ?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net> BlankHello Group, We will probably be buying a Kolb in the next year (for all the reasons you folks fly them) I am trying to decide between tandem and side by side. My wife and I would prefer the side by side but I weight about 80 pounds more than her. When training in a Quick the instructor weighted less than I and that resulted in a constant right stick pressure to balance. Will this be a problem with say a MarkIII or would I be better off with a tandem? Thanks in advance for all your input. Larry Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of Dragons...for You are Crunchy & Good with Ketchup


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    Time: 08:29:18 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Tandem vs Side By Side ?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> A bungee cord hooked to the stick will act as aileron trim, so the weight change is not a problem. Visibility out of the Mk III is good, and they fly well. Looking at a Kolbra at Monument Valley last week, I was highly impressed, and like the layout. It boils back down to personal preference. Lar Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Tandem vs Side By Side ? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net> > > BlankHello Group, > > We will probably be buying a Kolb in the next year (for all the reasons you > folks fly them) I am trying to decide between tandem and side by side. My > wife and I would prefer the side by side but I weight about 80 pounds more > than her. When training in a Quick the instructor weighted less than I and > that resulted in a constant right stick pressure to balance. Will this be a > problem with say a MarkIII or would I be better off with a tandem? Thanks in > advance for all your input. > > Larry > > > Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of Dragons...for You are Crunchy & Good with > Ketchup > >


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    Time: 10:47:27 AM PST US
    From: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Tandem vs Side By Side ?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Duncan McBride <duncanmcbride@comcast.net> Most everybody fits a trim tab on the right aileron to adjust for solo or dual flying. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Tandem vs Side By Side ? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net> > > BlankHello Group, > > We will probably be buying a Kolb in the next year (for all the reasons you > folks fly them) I am trying to decide between tandem and side by side. My > wife and I would prefer the side by side but I weight about 80 pounds more > than her. When training in a Quick the instructor weighted less than I and > that resulted in a constant right stick pressure to balance. Will this be a > problem with say a MarkIII or would I be better off with a tandem? Thanks in > advance for all your input. > > Larry > > > Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of Dragons...for You are Crunchy & Good with > Ketchup > >


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    Time: 11:45:40 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: reflections
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Kolbers, As I reflect back on this weekend's trip to the factory, I often think of all the comments made about my HD project being a giant vibrator. Although my experience in the M3X was the best flying experience yet, the noise and vibration was overwhelming.... The high RPM the Rotax has to make to produce the power needed also transmits high vibration through out the airframe. Quite possibly the warp drive prop is part of the blame, not sure. At any rate after the demo ride I wonder... would my HD with it's ability to produce high torque at any RPM be smoother perhaps? Sure makes me want to complete a redrive and find out! The only turn off's on light sport aircraft to me is the feeling of flying a weed eater.... Today I was weed wacking my fence and as I was going along I couldn't help but to think of standing on the flight line at the ultralight section at Sun n Fun no phun intended... The ballistic wide open screaming of the 2 strokes as well as the 912 just is spooky to me. Call me what ever you wish, but I like raw bottom line horsepower... We (Charley,Johnny,Steve and myself) plan to become Kolb dealers. With our 5000 sq ft heated and air conditioned shop and the love of sport light aircraft, should be able to provide a good base of operation as well as a great place to fly into and out of. With South Mississippi Light Aircraft just 70 miles to the south east as a Rotax repair center, we feel that we are in a great place to build and sell Kolb aircraft. Rans is also a great company, however they, to us, do not appear to be nearly as professional as the kind folk's at TNK. With that said Kolb is our choice and were sticking to it. As for powerplant's well...... we just feel that there is a better solution. The Kolb folk's when asked about the other powerplant's on the market would not knock the competition even if provoked. Their reply was simply "We prefer the Rotax" witch tells me that there is room for a better engine. But where will it come from? I feel that it will come from us. Just give us time. We are working on a 3 cylinder 120 hp high torque radial light weight solution to this market.Our smart guy has already had one Paul Harvey interview. Who knows what's next... I'm out of here to go fly the 150~~~~ C-ya pp.... N4958P


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    Time: 01:41:42 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: KXP??????????
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Kirk, Sorry to hear about the loss of Cocoa, there is nothing I can say to ease your heartache, but I will keep you in my prayers. Sincerely, Denny Rowe Mk-3 N616DR PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirk Smith <snuffy@usol.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: KXP?????????? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> > > Thanks everybody for the info on the KXP. Today is a day that airplanes > aren't to important to me. 2 years ago, my wife of 28+ years left. It was > tough being in this old house alone. A friend told me I should get a dog for > companionship. I got me a little Chocalate lab and named her Cocoa. Kept her > in the house with me. She slept by the bed at night, chased sticks in the > pond, dug holes everywhere. She was truly a joy and angel of grace in my > life. Yesterday as we were working in the yard I wasn't paying attention for > a moment. I heard brakes screeching and a gut wrenching thump. My little > Cocoa lay in the road breathing her last breaths of life. She died in my > arms. My heart is aching today. > > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 05:05:22 PM PST US
    From: "Russell Phillips" <rphillip1999@hotmail.com>
    Subject: flap deflection
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Russell Phillips" <rphillip1999@hotmail.com> Getting real close to the covering stage on a Mark III classic,(neverdone it before so I'm a little nervous about it) so I'm trying to get everything ready ; wingtip strobes wired, fabric rivet holes, hinge rivet holes drilled etc. etc. One thing I need to fix is the amount of flap deflection I have. It is excessive - probably around 50 degrees at the last notch.I suspect it may be because of the position I installed the flaphorn, which I did according to the manual if a 912 is to be used (perpendicular to the bottom of the wing). I was wondering if anyone else had this problem, and if so how did you solve it? It looks like the easiest way is to replace the flat piece the flap handle fits into and make my own notches to achieve the proper deflection, but I might be missing something. Any advice would be appreciated. Russ,inchilly western NY


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    Time: 05:25:42 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: flap deflection
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> One of the easiest cures for excessive deflection is to drill another hole in the actuating lever at the end of the flap handle. If you move the hole toward the pivot point, you reduce the amount of travel and increase your leverage. You may need to make up a new connecting link of a different length, but that is simple. You can even make a couple extra holes in the lever arm and see which one you like, I did. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 12:04 AM 5/26/03 +0000, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Russell Phillips" <rphillip1999@hotmail.com> > >One thing I need to fix is the amount of flap deflection I have. It is >excessive - probably around 50 degrees at the last notch.I suspect it may >be because of the position I installed the flaphorn, which I did according >to the manual if a 912 is to be used (perpendicular to the bottom of the >wing). I was wondering if anyone else had this problem, and if so how did >you solve it? It looks like the easiest way is to replace the flat piece >the flap handle fits into and make my own notches to achieve the proper >deflection, but I might be missing something. Any advice would be appreciated. > > >Russ,inchilly western NY > >


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    Time: 05:50:38 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Tandem vs Side By Side ?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Adjustable trim tabs easily deal with anything like that. (As long as you remember to reset it before you take off...) If you forget, it's just a minor nuisance. One other thought - never got into or out of a Kolbra, especially the back seat, but as the years pass, I suspect the MKIII might require less athletics? (We had checked out a Challenger before we got the Kolb. Discovered that the challenge was the Good Lookin' Old Poop getting in and out of the back seat. That was a sight to behold...Could'a sold tickets and paid it off in six weeks...) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 09:05 AM 5/25/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net> > >BlankHello Group, > >We will probably be buying a Kolb in the next year (for all the reasons you >folks fly them) I am trying to decide between tandem and side by side. My >wife and I would prefer the side by side but I weight about 80 pounds more >than her. When training in a Quick the instructor weighted less than I and >that resulted in a constant right stick pressure to balance. Will this be a >problem with say a MarkIII or would I be better off with a tandem? Thanks in >advance for all your input. > >Larry > > >Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of Dragons...for You are Crunchy & Good with >Ketchup > >


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    Time: 10:10:59 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: KXP??????????
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Dang Kirk...I feel awful for ya pard....we have had labs around here since i was a boy, and my kids , although grown up now...never knew life without one..or several....and Ive lost a special one or two myself.....it tough I know...get you another one....dont worry about it "not being as good as Cocoa"...Im sure it wont be the same, But I will tell you that they ALL can be special in their own way...and dont think that you wont love the next one just as strong ....the sooner the better my friend, I promise it will help a lot! Finished painting and started reassembling today gents....FINALLY.....and I believe that im gonna take that advice about painting the next one battleship gray with a roller, this one is a beaut....but I aint gonna take on a chore like this for a long time again. check er out on page 10 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Don Gherardini- FireFly 098




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