Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 05/26/03


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 05:10 AM - clutter (Bob Bean)
     2. 06:52 AM - Re: P-tips? (Richard Swiderski)
     3. 08:50 AM - Re: KXP?????????? (Kirk Smith)
     4. 09:01 AM - Re: KXP?????????? (Kirk Smith)
     5. 09:21 AM - monument valley (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
     6. 10:07 AM - Re: monument valley (WillUribe@aol.com)
     7. 10:50 AM - New homepage. (Johann G.)
     8. 01:15 PM - Re: New homepage. (Larry Bourne)
     9. 01:34 PM - Re: monument valley (Larry Bourne)
    10. 01:50 PM - monument valley (boyd young)
    11. 05:29 PM - Re: New homepage. (Johann G.)
    12. 07:29 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/25/03 (William George)
    13. 07:53 PM - Kolb KXP (George Thompson)
    14. 08:43 PM - Monument Valley/Brian Ranch (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:10:58 AM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: clutter
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Hey guys, a lot of us have been dropping the do not archive trigger lately. If it is actually info that someone might want to use...ok. Matt's going to be wagging his finger at us again. Maybe if he changed it to something like xxxx so's the lazy would find it easier? - BB, done naggin'


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    Time: 06:52:34 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net>
    Subject: Re: P-tips?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@advanced-connect.net> Richard Pike, I copied them from a picture in Ultralight Fying years back. A Canadian company was offering them. It is basically a .049 piece of 6061-T6 aluminum sheet inlaid in the tip of the prop with a 90 degree bend in it (about 3/4" high) that also extends beyond the trailing edge about 3/4". It looks like a Prince P-Tip prop. It cuts out much of the prop tip's vortex & redirects it as thrust, while lowering the noise level. On a 50" prop it gave me a 12% increase in thrust and climb rate & a 12% decrease in fuel burn and rpm for a given speed. For a 60" prop it made a 10% difference. The 50" was a 2 blade & the 60" was a 3-blade, both were different brands as well. The p-tip plates were inlaid, JB Weld epoxied & screwed together with 3 stainless steel flush mounted screws. No rocket science involved, just need to make sure the bends have a proper radius & be careful with maintaining balance. If you are making 270lbs static thrust they'll put you over the 300lb mark & that's a kick in the pants you can feel. You get more power, burn less fuel, make less noise, you end up with a tougher prop, & its virtually free. I just sold my prop & converted 582 SeaDoo engine to a guy in GA, so I can't get a picture. I'm trying to get my son to make me a website to detail my conversion of the Chevy Sprint Turbo 3 cyl engine. Maybe I'll get a drawing up on it. Richard Swiderski > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" > ><swiderski@advanced-connect.net> > >Later, I inlaid p-tips into the prop which took the thrust to over 300lbs. ...Richard Swiderski > Tell us more about p-tips and how you did it. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > >


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    Time: 08:50:08 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: KXP??????????
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> Don, You would certainly know how the darn mutts can worm their way into your heart then. I will probably get another pup but not until I got a fence up. God I don't want that to happen again. Thank you so much for your understanding........Kirk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: KXP?????????? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> > > Dang Kirk...I feel awful for ya pard....we have had labs around here since > i was a boy, and my kids , although grown up now...never knew life without > one..or several....and Ive lost a special one or two myself.....it tough I > know...get you another one....dont worry about it "not being as good as > Cocoa"...Im sure it wont be the same, But I will tell you that they ALL can > be special in their own way...and dont think that you wont love the next one > just as strong ....the sooner the better my friend, I promise it will help a > lot! > > Finished painting and started reassembling today gents....FINALLY.....and I > believe that im gonna take that advice about painting the next one > battleship gray with a roller, this one is a beaut....but I aint gonna take > on a chore like this for a long time again. > > check er out on page 10 > > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > Don Gherardini- > FireFly 098 > >


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    Time: 09:01:29 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: KXP??????????
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> > You would certainly know how the darn mutts can worm their way into your > heart then. I will probably get another pup but not until I got a fence up. > God I don't want that to happen again. Thank you so much for your > understanding........Kirk The above statement should be for everybody. So many compassionate, understanding, wonderful people on this list. Thank you all so very much. Kirk Do not archive


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    Time: 09:21:15 AM PST US
    Subject: monument valley
    From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
    05/26/2003 12":20:23.PM@matronics.com, MIME-CD complete at 05/26/2003 12:20:23.PM@matronics.com, Serialize by Router on SMTP102/URSCorp(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 05/26/2003 12:21:08.PM@matronics.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Got back from the Monument Valley trip Saturday evening. What a great trip, and so cool just looking down that patch of dirt and seeing so many Kolbs with the beautiful red cliffs in the background. The early morning flights when the light made everything glow were spectacular. Big Lar has the list of people, but by my memory, it was attended by John Hauck (Alabama), Larry Bourne (California), Boyd Young (Utah), Dave and Eva (?) Pelletier (Arizona), Jim Heffner (Arizona), John Williamson (Texas), Dave Rains (Texas), Dennis Kirby (New Mexico), Tom and Betty Kuffel, and myself, with wife Sonja and daughter Kendall (California). Lar, did I forget anybody? The weather was fantastic, and I flew each morning and afternoon, except for when I took the ground tour. Lar's photos captured the essence, but I'll try to share a few more photos of interest on the Matronics Photo share. The place emptied out on Wednesday, and just wasnt the same once all those Kolbs left. The wife and kid and I left and went to Page, AZ., gawking at the Glen Canyon dam, Lake Powell, and then doing a a 1/2 day raft trip down the Colorado River, going from the dam down to Lee's Ferry. From there, continued over for more gawking at the Grand Canyon on Friday before driving home. My answering machine at home had a message from John H indicating that he had made it over the Sierra and through Yosemite before heading south and landing at my home airport, Santa Ynez. Sounds like he moved on since neither I nor his other local buddy were around. Folks, this guy is an animal! The journeys and mileage this guy is cranking out in his Kolb are unbelievable! I salute you John, and was thrilled to hang out with you for a few days in a great spot. When I first got interested in ultralights about four years ago, this trip was a dream of mine. Now its been done, and the great group of people that were there to share it with made it that much better. I would gladly do it all again, and I know there is plenty of sightseeing left to do within an easy days flight from MV. Its not too early to start planning Erich Weaver


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    Time: 10:07:18 AM PST US
    From: WillUribe@aol.com
    Subject: Re: monument valley
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com Greetings, John Hauck landed in El Paso last night before sunset. We put away his MK III in my hanger and spent the night. Today his off flying with Dave Rains=20in the restricted area. Unfortunately I have to work today so I couldn't go. http://members.aol.com/talinamorenop/john.jpg <A HREF"http://members.aol.com/talinamorenop/john.jpg">http://members.aol.com/talinamorenop/john.jpg Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ do not archive > My answering machine at home had a message from John H indicating that he > had made it over the Sierra and through Yosemite before heading south and > landing at my home airport, Santa Ynez.=A0 Sounds like he moved on since > neither I nor his other local buddy were around.=A0 Folks, this guy is an > animal! The journeys and mileage this guy is cranking out in his Kolb are > unbelievable!=A0 I salute you John, and was thrilled to hang out with you=20for > a few days in a great spot.


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    Time: 10:50:08 AM PST US
    From: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
    Subject: New homepage.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> Hello list members. If anyone is interested, here is my new homepage, where my Kolb and Zenith projects can be seen. It is the same link, but more to see. http://www.gi.is/fis/ Hope it can help some builders with their project. Best wishes, Johann G. Iceland.


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    Time: 01:15:01 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: New homepage.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Yah, Iceland.....................now THAT would be a fly-in ! ! ! Think we could carry enuf gas ?? :-) Welcome back, Johann. Haven't heard from you in quite a while. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> Subject: Kolb-List: New homepage. > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> > > Hello list members. > > If anyone is interested, here is my new homepage, where my Kolb and Zenith > projects can be seen. It is the same link, but more to see. > http://www.gi.is/fis/ > Hope it can help some builders with their project. > > Best wishes, > > Johann G. > Iceland. > >


    Message 9


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    Time: 01:34:42 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: monument valley
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Do not Archive. Sorry Erich, you missed Dave Rains' friend Ziggy (??) from Bavaria. Nice fella. I didn't publish names on the website for privacy concerns, but should have thought of it for the List. Thanks. Sounds like you had a nice trip home. Last year, when I ran my boat up from Lee's Ferry to Glen Canyon Dam ("Traveling - Grand Canyon" on my website) I shut the motor off from time to time on the way back downstream, and just listened to the river. It was great. Didn't know you could go on a 1/2 day float................that would be even better - much better. If you like, send some of your pics to me, and I'll make a web page for you..............much quicker than waiting for photoshare. I'd sure like to see them. Lotsa viewpoints and interpretations. What about the rest of you guys who were there ?? On the way home, just west of Lee's Ferry, (I went from Lee's Ferry, thru St. George, and down thru Vegas) I spotted the airport at Marble Canyon, that we had talked about over the fire one evening. Not far from lodging, and not much farther to very reasonable ($10.00/day) camping near the boat launch. Might just make a nice trip one day. Long Rangin' Lar..................who prob'ly won't fly Vamoose till after vacation, now. :-( Sorry, folks. Do not Archive. P.S. - How long did your daughter's Navaho hairdo last ?? Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com> Subject: Kolb-List: monument valley > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com > > > Got back from the Monument Valley trip Saturday evening. What a great > trip, and so cool just looking down that patch of dirt and seeing so many > Kolbs with the beautiful red cliffs in the background. The early morning > flights when the light made everything glow were spectacular. Big Lar has > the list of people, but by my memory, it was attended by John Hauck > (Alabama), Larry Bourne (California), Boyd > Young (Utah), Dave and Eva (?) Pelletier (Arizona), Jim Heffner (Arizona), > John Williamson (Texas), Dave Rains (Texas), Dennis Kirby (New Mexico), Tom > and Betty Kuffel, and myself, with wife Sonja and daughter Kendall > (California). Lar, did I forget anybody? The weather was fantastic, and I > flew each morning and afternoon, except for when I took the ground tour. > Lar's photos captured the essence, but I'll try to share a few more photos > of interest on the Matronics Photo share. > > The place emptied out on Wednesday, and just wasnt the same once all those > Kolbs left. The wife and kid and I left and went to Page, AZ., gawking at > the Glen Canyon dam, Lake Powell, and then doing a a 1/2 day raft trip down > the Colorado River, going from the dam down to Lee's Ferry. From there, > continued over for more gawking at the Grand Canyon on Friday before > driving home. > > My answering machine at home had a message from John H indicating that he > had made it over the Sierra and through Yosemite before heading south and > landing at my home airport, Santa Ynez. Sounds like he moved on since > neither I nor his other local buddy were around. Folks, this guy is an > animal! The journeys and mileage this guy is cranking out in his Kolb are > unbelievable! I salute you John, and was thrilled to hang out with you for > a few days in a great spot. > > When I first got interested in ultralights about four years ago, this trip > was a dream of mine. Now its been done, and the great group of people that > were there to share it with made it that much better. I would gladly do it > all again, and I know there is plenty of sightseeing left to do within an > easy days flight from MV. Its not too early to start planning > > Erich Weaver > >


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    Time: 01:50:37 PM PST US
    From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: monument valley
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> WOW monument valley was great..... I have started this about 3 or 4 times but i cant ever seem to get the words to express the feelings. It seemed like everyone in the group had been friends for such a long time.. and the trip only seemed to make everyone closer. It was fun to sit and chat together and hear some of the stories that we havent shared on the net. I have learned a great respect for John H and John W. as their trips are continuing.... I put on about 1000 air miles and their trips are going to be in the 4000 mile range. I remember on the way down the first 4 hours or so was a great adventure....... then the last hour and a half to two seemed to take forever.... I think that some of the desert in southern Utah is only there to keep the other parts of the state further apart. Since I have been home my wife had decided that it is warm enough to go flying and has had me take her up for 2 1/2 hours the last few days. Larry, have you had a chance to find out what is wrong with your camera? It was good to know that the pictures on your memory stick did not get erased. I have not been able to get my digital camera to talk with my computer.... It starts out like it will work then at the time it should start downloading pictures everything just stops....I think it is the computer, not the camera. On the trip home i picked up one of the disposable cameras for pictures of rainbow bridge and lake powell.. I hope they turn out.... if not I suppose that I will have to do the trip again. As soon as I get my camera and computer in a chating mood or get the other pictures back I will get something uploaded to the web sight. boyd


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    Time: 05:29:19 PM PST US
    From: "Johann G." <johann-g@talnet.is>
    Subject: New homepage.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann-g@talnet.is> Hello Larry and friends. I have been here, but have not had anything interesting to say. Just lurking and enjoying all your input. The pictures from Monument Valley were great. I really enjoyed them. Yes, we could have the next fly-in up here in Iceland. Anyone who dares to cross the Atlantic in a Kolb,( or any other flying thing) will get free room and board at my place. Always enjoy your post, Larry. Best wishes to all Kolb flyers and builders. Johann from Iceland. Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Bourne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New homepage. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Yah, Iceland.....................now THAT would be a fly-in ! ! ! Think we could carry enuf gas ?? :-) Welcome back, Johann. Haven't heard from you in quite a while. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> Subject: Kolb-List: New homepage. > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> > > Hello list members. > > If anyone is interested, here is my new homepage, where my Kolb and Zenith > projects can be seen. It is the same link, but more to see. > http://www.gi.is/fis/ > Hope it can help some builders with their project. > > Best wishes, > > Johann G. > Iceland. > >


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    Time: 07:29:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/25/03
    From: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com> Snuffy, I'm sure a lot of Kolbers know exactly how you feel. I know I do. One cannot have a better friend and it is a loss that stays with us. I lost my Rottie "Moosie", my good pal of ten years in December. Buried her in the upper pasture and planted a young Ohia tree over her grave. Thought I wouldn't want another pup, but did relent and now have a wonderful young Rott named "Ella". You will never replace your loss but don't be afraid to get into a new relationship with another well chosen pup. You won't regret it. Best do not archive Bill George Kolb Mk-3/Verner1400SVS/Powerfin 68" "F" > From: Kolb-List Digest Server <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com> > Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 23:56:13 -0700 > To: Kolb-List Digest List <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/25/03 > > Time: 06:43:14 AM PST US > From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: KXP?????????? > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> > > Thanks everybody for the info on the KXP. Today is a day that airplanes > aren't to important to me. 2 years ago, my wife of 28+ years left. It was > tough being in this old house alone. A friend told me I should get a dog for > companionship. I got me a little Chocalate lab and named her Cocoa. Kept her > in the house with me. She slept by the bed at night, chased sticks in the > pond, dug holes everywhere. She was truly a joy and angel of grace in my > life. Yesterday as we were working in the yard I wasn't paying attention for > a moment. I heard brakes screeching and a gut wrenching thump. My little > Cocoa lay in the road breathing her last breaths of life. She died in my > arms. My heart is aching today.


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    Time: 07:53:32 PM PST US
    From: "George Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
    Subject: Kolb KXP
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net> Dear Kolber's and Kolberets, I have listed my prime Kolb KXP for sale at a very choice price on www.barnstormers.com Look it up on May 23rd. It is priced way below even the kit price even less engine,paint, insterments, full enclousure etc. I assure all of you that it is a very well made aircraft,. I have flown it from Arizona back to Missouri and back with no problums. It has 275 hrs on its 503. It has always been hangered and is ready to go with a fresh tank of fuel. It is hangered in Arizona and WILL BE SOLD. George, Bald Eagle Of Arizona eagle1@commspeed.net


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    Time: 08:43:57 PM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Monument Valley/Brian Ranch
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> Hi Guys, Just got in from the "World's Smallest Airshow" at Brian Ranch, Llano (Yeah Larry, "Yano") Ca. It is the end of a great nine-day trip. Started at our Black Mesa Flyers fly-in at Paulden, AZ. Turnout was poor, but we had a good time anyway. From there - Monument Valley. Wow! what can I say that hasn't been said in pictures and words. It was fabulous. Thanks to God for putting it there, and thanks to the Navahos for making it accessible. A great bunch of guys and a great time. From there, off to Brian Ranch in my motor home, towing my MK III. Those of you at MV know I had a terrible time with the instrument panel, so said to hell with it, and detoured to Paulden to pick up my "For Sale" Firestar. Did the switch and was on my way and spent the night with friends at Needles airport. Great place to fly and see the Colorado River sights. Now Jim, you had problems and so did I. But I was kinda lucky in one sense of the word because I blew out an inside dual just out of Barstow. It could have happened half way between Needles and ??? Found out a Goodyear dealer was in Victorville, so limped in there. They had tires at the warehouse and "made me a deal" on two of them - $620. Not much else I could do but put them on. They couldn't get the lug nuts off with their wimpy tools and had to use my breaker bar. Kept a close watch on them and had to remind them twice that the threads were left hand. Anyway, got going after five hours and somehow got 20 miles in the wrong direction. (My friends have heard me gripe for years about California signs, and now I've got a new example.) Got back right and made Brian Ranch that evening. Absolutely wonderful UL strip and facilities. Great airshow! Not the Thunderbirds or Blue Angels, but fun nevertheless. Jack and Felice Brian are wonderful hosts. T'was a bit windy and dust devils kept things interesting. There were 40 to 50 UL's on Saturday, and a few less on Sunday. Bomb Drop, Torpedo Run and Spot Landing contests were fun, especially with wind gusts to keep things really interesting. And guess what - some guy by the name of Johu Hauck dropped in with "Miss P'fer". He stayed Saturday and left in a blaze of glory on Sunday afternoon. Glad you made it, John. I flew a bit over four hours at MV and the same at Brian. Flew for 1:15 this morning, then packed up and drove just under 500 miles today. Gonna sleep good tonite. During those nine days I met a great bunch of folks at Monument Valley and another fine bunch at Brian Ranch. Life is good, AzDave Do Not Archive




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