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Wed 05/28/03


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 05:51 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 05/27/03 (dale seitzer)
     2. 06:37 AM - storage and wheels (Ed Steuber)
     3. 08:13 AM - Re: wheels and rims (Bruce McElhoe)
     4. 01:34 PM - Warp Drive Propeller (Johann G.)
     5. 02:29 PM - Alternate fueling options (Fackler, Ken)
     6. 03:12 PM - Re: Warp Drive Propeller (Johann G.)
     7. 03:37 PM - Re: wheels and rims (Beauford Tuton)
     8. 03:51 PM - Re: Alternate fueling options (Hjalmar Johannesson)
     9. 04:04 PM - Re: wheels and rims (Don Gherardini)
    10. 05:25 PM - Re: wheels and rims (Beauford Tuton)
    11. 07:52 PM - Re: wheels and rims (Don Gherardini)
    12. 08:22 PM - Priming Cage (NBD)
    13. 08:29 PM - Re: wheels and rims (possums)
    14. 08:34 PM - Re: Priming Cage (Richard Pike)
    15. 08:58 PM - Re: Priming Cage (Don Gherardini)
    16. 09:02 PM - Re: Priming Cage (Don Gherardini)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:51:48 AM PST US
    From: dale seitzer <dalemseitzer@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 05/27/03
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: dale seitzer <dalemseitzer@yahoo.com> I have seen Challenger builders who use 5 inch azuza and get (free) used front tires off Cessna 150/152/172. These tires are 6 ply and rated to 120 mph with a pretty big foot print and they are better balanced. They can be run at low air pressure and can handle lots of abuse. Definitely use high speed bearings--they will last longer and be quiet and smooth. Dale Seitzer > Well Im to the point where I need to purchase some > tires and rims for my > Firefly gents. I'm looking for advice.. > > 6 or 8 inch?....will selsom see paved runways... > > __________________________________


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    Time: 06:37:10 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: storage and wheels
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com> Ronnie, I think the only reasonable place for storage of a good amount of camping and maintenance items would be above the engine in the triangle area.....You could make a permanent or temporary storage area by using vinyl covered clamps that will attach to the tubing with no welding.. I had a 5 gallon plastic gas tank that fit in that area on my last Ultrastar that did not make any difference to propellar air or airspeed. I plan on using this area again on the new Ultrastar which will give me the option on trips of 11 gallons but still removable . Look in the photo share and you can see the plastic tank position on my old Ultrastar.. Don. Go with the 6 inch rims , tires and tubes. I only know about the aluminum and not the plastic. I did have considerable trouble with the Azusa wheels because of assembly problems concerning wobble. The only solution was to assenble everything on the axle and torque very carefully...never got it perfect but acceptable. Tracy Obrien brakes recquired a lot of screwing around to make acceptable......Although I do like the result . Good Luck Ed in Western NY


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    Time: 08:13:51 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce McElhoe" <mcelhoe@cvip.net>
    Subject: Re: wheels and rims
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce McElhoe" <mcelhoe@cvip.net> Don, We used 5-inch wheels and aircraft 5.00-5 tires, and made our weight limit. We searched around the airport and found the lightest (most worn out) tires. We only have about 15 hours on our FireFly, so this is hardly a good test. Our thinking is that aircraft tires have a stiffer sidewall so they are stable at very low pressure (4-5 psi). Also, we have puncture vines here that will put holes in a wheelbarrow tire. We put some light go-cart mechanical brakes on the airplane, and found them to be more than adequate. I find I rarely use the brakes. They are not necessary on roll-out, and we don't run-up the engine. If the brakes are too good you will simply nose over. Regards, Bruce McElhoe FireFly 88 Reedley, Calif. > > Well Im to the point where I need to purchase some tires and rims for my > Firefly gents. I'm looking for advice.. > > 6 or 8 inch?....will selsom see paved runways... > > I want to install Mountian bike cable operated discs, and I can machine my > own adapters if I need to. > > I have been looking those 6 " Azusalite nylon....question is will they hold > up?....but no 8 inch avail.... > > Will I be happy with 6 inch instead of nice fat 8" that will likely give me > a little more cusion for bumpy feilds...or noy so perfect landings?....will > 8 inch tires add so much weight I wont like em?...can I cover 8 inch with > wheel pants?.....aARGHHHH....I'm ready to buy today but I just cant make up > my mind.....Somebody MAKE me do something!!!! > > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > Don Gherardini- > FireFly 098 >


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    Time: 01:34:19 PM PST US
    From: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
    Subject: Warp Drive Propeller
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> Hello List members. I have a problem with a Warp Drive propeller, and I would like to ask you specialists on the list for advise. My friend is using the Warp Drive prop on his Firestar II. The engine is a Rotax 503. The problem is that the three blades are off track. No blade is the same, and the difference is about1/2. How do we adjust the tracking of the blades? Thank you in advance. Regards, Johann G. Iceland. http://www.gi.is/fis/


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    Time: 02:29:54 PM PST US
    From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Alternate fueling options
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net> DO NOT ARCHIVE Well, fellow Kolbites, I managed to really muck it up this time. In hoisting those blankety-blank fuel cans over my head to gas up the Mark II, I managed to rip a muscle in my lower back. I am now urgently in need of a safe alternative for handling fuel without doing any such lifting. Of course, a solution that doesn't involve the outlay of "mass quantities" of cash would be a real plus, too! ;-) I've searched the archives and grabbed some info there, but it was fairly non-detailed and a lot of it was debate about the safety of various approaches. So here's what I'm asking for: If you use a method not involving hand-pumping or hand-pouring for getting fuel into a two-stroke-powered Kolb (I need to pump pre-mix) and would be willing to share details, preferably even plans or photos, please contact me off-list at either of the following addresses: kfackler@ameritech.net ken.fackler@eds.com Many, many thanks! -Ken Fackler Mark II / 503 Rochester MI


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    Time: 03:12:52 PM PST US
    From: "Johann G." <johann-g@talnet.is>
    Subject: Warp Drive Propeller
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann-g@talnet.is> I noticed that the inch mark was missing from my first mail. It was supposed to be half-inch difference in each blade. Best regards, Johann G. Iceland. http://www.gi.is/fis/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Johann G. Subject: Kolb-List: Warp Drive Propeller --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> Hello List members. I have a problem with a Warp Drive propeller, and I would like to ask you specialists on the list for advise. My friend is using the Warp Drive prop on his Firestar II. The engine is a Rotax 503. The problem is that the three blades are off track. No blade is the same, and the difference is about1/2. How do we adjust the tracking of the blades? Thank you in advance. Regards, Johann G. Iceland. http://www.gi.is/fis/


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    Time: 03:37:16 PM PST US
    From: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: wheels and rims
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> Don: I now run the 6 inch Azuzalite nylon on the FF... with the azuza internally expanding double shoe brakes... No problems at all with the wheels or the brakes... got about 75 hours on them running out of a sandy grass strip... After 20 hours, I removed the 5 inchers (Azuzalite nylon) with the low-profile tires that Kolb originally furnished, because they tended to hang in ruts and relatively small holes... no sweat with the 6 inchers... made a big difference... If you want to see what they look like on the Fly, will send you a snapshot. For what it's worth... Good luck, Beauford, Aluminum Butcher of Brandon FF #076 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Subject: Kolb-List: wheels and rims > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> > > Well Im to the point where I need to purchase some tires and rims for my > Firefly gents. I'm looking for advice.. > > 6 or 8 inch?....will selsom see paved runways... > >> FireFly 098 > >


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    Time: 03:51:16 PM PST US
    From: "Hjalmar Johannesson" <hjalm@ismennt.is>
    Subject: Alternate fueling options
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hjalmar Johannesson" <hjalm@ismennt.is> Dear Ken Fackler We here in Iceland are using electric pump (12 volt) to pump from tank outside the plane to the tank inside. You can bye this pump from a car repair company and it is cheap. Best wishes Hjalmar/Iceland -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fackler, Ken Subject: Kolb-List: Alternate fueling options --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net> DO NOT ARCHIVE Well, fellow Kolbites, I managed to really muck it up this time. In hoisting those blankety-blank fuel cans over my head to gas up the Mark II, I managed to rip a muscle in my lower back. I am now urgently in need of a safe alternative for handling fuel without doing any such lifting. Of course, a solution that doesn't involve the outlay of "mass quantities" of cash would be a real plus, too! ;-) I've searched the archives and grabbed some info there, but it was fairly non-detailed and a lot of it was debate about the safety of various approaches. So here's what I'm asking for: If you use a method not involving hand-pumping or hand-pouring for getting fuel into a two-stroke-powered Kolb (I need to pump pre-mix) and would be willing to share details, preferably even plans or photos, please contact me off-list at either of the following addresses: kfackler@ameritech.net ken.fackler@eds.com Many, many thanks! -Ken Fackler Mark II / 503 Rochester MI


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    Time: 04:04:40 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: wheels and rims
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Beauford....what size tires did you fit on those 6 inch nylon rims?..I can only find a spec that they are 3 inchs wide, and I dont know if they would work with a 6.00 x 6 inch airtrac???...or maybe there are wider azusalites that i have found.....?? http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Don Gherardini- FireFly 098


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    Time: 05:25:28 PM PST US
    From: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: wheels and rims
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> Don... They are 4.10 x 3.50 x 6... the same Chinee tires/tubes listed with the 6 inch Azuzalite wheels in the Spruce catalog as PN 06-03000.... they were $19.50 per side for the tire and tube as a set... IMHO, the standard general aviation 600x6 is way too heavy for the Fly.... and I doubt they would fit these toy wheels, anyway... I really do think that "lite" is the way to go on the Fly... and I have have dabbled these little 6 inch tires in some pretty crummy strips without problems... Worth what ye paid fer it... Beauford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wheels and rims > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> > > Beauford....what size tires did you fit on those 6 inch nylon rims?..I can > only find a spec that they are 3 inchs wide, and I dont know if they would > work with a 6.00 x 6 inch airtrac???...or maybe there are wider azusalites > that i have found.....?? > > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > Don Gherardini- > FireFly 098 > >


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    Time: 07:52:59 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: wheels and rims
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> P.S. BeauFord.....what did ya make that gap seal out of? Don G


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    Time: 08:22:55 PM PST US
    From: "NBD" <mk3@bailinair.com>
    Subject: Priming Cage
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "NBD" <mk3@bailinair.com> A couple of questions concerning the priming of the fuselage cage, with my schedule this is apt to take at least a week. Is it recommended that the entire cage be stripped and cleaned prior to priming or in sections? i.e. strip & clean a section and prime. Using Stit's epoxy primer (white), will their be a problem applying paint after a period of time or should the finish coat be applied shortly after the primer has cured? Thank you Regards Noel Kolb MK III Classic New Hampshire http://www.bailinair.com


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    Time: 08:29:44 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: wheels and rims
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com> How to change a flat without taking the tire off of the rim or the rim off the axle - in the field repair for punctured tubes. Just a suggestion for those that don't already know. First, you of course, have to prop up the wheel or wing and remove the wheel pant if you have one. Next - the tire is usually already broken lose from the rim if it's flat. We just cut the old tube in half and pull it out from inside the tire. Then push the new tube inside the tire with the valve in the right place. Pump it up and go. If you don't have a tube and have to go anyway, I have stuffed tires with rags, papers or my clothes - etc. Anything to get off the ground, especially if you're on a sandbar and the tide is coming in. It is always easier to land with a flat than to take off with a flat. Enquiring minds might want to know. At 08:27 PM 5/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> > >Don... >. and I have have dabbled these >little 6 inch tires in some pretty crummy strips without problems... >Worth what ye paid fer it... >Beauford


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    Time: 08:34:51 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Priming Cage
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> At 11:22 PM 5/28/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "NBD" <mk3@bailinair.com> > >A couple of questions concerning the priming of the fuselage cage, with my >schedule this is apt to take at least a week. > >Is it recommended that the entire cage be stripped and cleaned prior to >priming or in sections? i.e. strip & clean a section and prime. Nope, work fast, do it all at once, get it over with. That cleaner stuff is nasty on your hands, you don't want to extend the agony any more than necessary. >Using Stit's epoxy primer (white), will their be a problem applying paint >after a period of time or should the finish coat be applied shortly after >the primer has cured? Anytime is fine, maybe a little scuff sanding helps. >Thank you > >Regards >Noel >Kolb MK III Classic >New Hampshire >http://www.bailinair.com You're welcome Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)


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    Time: 08:58:09 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Priming Cage
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Yes Noel..like richard says..do it all at once....and do a good job...dont leave anything...any single spot not cleaned..and fer goodness sake..dont leave any spots not primed. I bought my kit second hand...the owner had just got started on it and passed away. he primed the cage with epoxy primer and a brush...didnt clean it well and didnt cover it real well with primer either.....6 months later when I bought it from his heirs....there was little streaks of rust showing thru in several spots. It took me several LONG days to strip that dang epoxy primer off and redo the whole thing...when it sticks...it sticks better than anything in the world, and dont come off easy. But where its not cleaned proper....its pitiful! http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Don Gherardini- FireFly 098


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    Time: 09:02:17 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Priming Cage
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> One other thing Noel....good clean bare chrome-moly will rust in a matter of hours in the right weather...so if you cant get it all cleaned right away for some reason..(like I couldnt)...get a spray can of zinc-chromate primer, and shoot the bare metal you have cleaned.it dont take much..just a light coat...then when you are all done....epoxy the whole critter at once. http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Don Gherardini- FireFly 098




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