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1. 05:34 AM - (Bob Bean)
2. 07:17 AM - Re: (Richard Pike)
3. 08:09 AM - Re: Geo (Rick & Martha Neilsen)
4. 09:09 AM - New engine (Kirk Smith)
5. 09:55 AM - Re: Re: (Bob Bean)
6. 10:15 AM - geo thrust line (Bob Bean)
7. 01:40 PM - Re: New engine (Bob Bean)
8. 06:12 PM - trim tabs (boyd young)
9. 06:13 PM - Re: New engine (Don Gherardini)
10. 06:33 PM - Re: trim tabs (Richard Pike)
11. 06:43 PM - Firestar II for sale. (James)
12. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: Geo (jerb)
13. 09:23 PM - Re: Visitor to KGKY (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyGeo/message/5628
Builders, for anyone looking for a good 4-stroke alternative, this is a
serious
contender. (some assembly required) -BB do not archive.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Do you have another url? That one was just to join a yahoo group.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 08:39 AM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote:
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>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyGeo/message/5628
>Builders, for anyone looking for a good 4-stroke alternative, this is a
>serious
>contender. (some assembly required) -BB do not archive.
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Help Stop Spam!
Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you
forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life.
Thanks! And have a blessed day.
rp
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick & Martha Neilsen <neilsenrm@comcast.net>
The Geo is a great motor and for lighter airplanes is a good alternative.
For us MKIII drivers it is a bit low on power. The engine pictured does have
a gear box as apposed to the belt drives like Raven makes. The gear box
would allow the engine to use the kolb mount and in a lowered position would
lower the thrust line which is good. I talked to a builder some time ago
that was building a MKIII using a Geo, he was going to modify the cage to
allow the engine to be mounted much lower to solve the high thrust line
problem. I haven't heard from the builder again so I don't know how it went.
It's my personal preference but I decided against the Geo partly due to low
power but also because of the high RPMs the engine would have to turn to fly
a MKIII. I like the ability of my reduction drive VW to cruise at 3200 RPM
and you can purchase a new VW engine for not much more than a junked Geo.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIII
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob Bean
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyGeo/message/5628
Builders, for anyone looking for a good 4-stroke alternative, this is a
serious
contender. (some assembly required) -BB do not archive.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
http://www.ultralightnews.ca/sunfun03/8.htm A new 4 stroke alternative. Anybody seen this engine yet? Kirk
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Richard and others, sorry that link was blocked by Yahoo.
It is a complete side mount raven/geo combo (belt drive) incl:
engine, side mount pan, westach 3 1/8 for 3cyl, water temp,
oil press. , mounting rails, light starter and gen., various other parts
engine WO prop weighs 138lbs.
$3500 804-693-5186
phantom1@toast.net -BB
Richard Pike wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
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>Do you have another url? That one was just to join a yahoo group.
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>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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>At 08:39 AM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote:
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>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
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>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyGeo/message/5628
>>Builders, for anyone looking for a good 4-stroke alternative, this is a
>>serious
>>contender. (some assembly required) -BB do not archive.
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>Help Stop Spam!
>Delete all address information (especially mine) off everything you
>forward, and make Blind Carbon Copy a way of life.
>Thanks! And have a blessed day.
>rp
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Rick and curious bystanders, with the dry sump I have about 2" clearance
to the boom tube with a 70" prop. Mine is mounted in the standard upright
position. Initial runs with the prop at approx 12 deg yielded about 3800
rpm static. Before I make any changes I'll check the accuracy of the
tach with a handheld optical unit. I believe 4000 static would be about
right for me. The geo develops peak torque at 3500 rpm and stays flat
up to about 5000, thereafter falling off. 60 ftlbs @ 3500 and intersecting
the 582 curve at 6000rpm and 55 ftlbs. -BB
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Looks well built, wonder what the $$$$$????? -BB do not archive
Kirk Smith wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
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>http://www.ultralightnews.ca/sunfun03/8.htm A new 4 stroke alternative. Anybody seen this engine yet? Kirk
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>>>>>>>> With a clockwise turning prop, which side of the
rudder should I place the tab?
Tim G
Again, I
would wait and fly the bird a good bit to insure I
really understand what it needs before I start
drilling holes and riveting.
john h<<<<<<<<<<
I am with john here
I would not be too big a hurry to add tabs until i had a chance to fly the plane
.... untill you fly it you dont know if it even needs one.... After you fly
you will have an idea of how much control pressure it takes and can adjust
the size and bend as necessary.
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
I saw that Ilmore at Sun'n'Fun and talked to the reps. The engine is a
spin-off of a model they made for the US Gov trials on UAV powerplants. With
the expanded use of UAV's by the military and the contracts to be yet bid,
this engine is hoped to compete in a 100 hp class for UAV's and if they get
the contract, they will offer it to the light aircraft market.
Ilmore was NOT awarded the 150 hp class bid, and that is why we never saw
the larger engine on the civilian market
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
At 02:41 PM 6/6/03 -0600, you wrote:
>With a clockwise turning prop, which side of the
>rudder should I place the tab?
> Tim G
Put a nice big yaw string on the bottom front of your wind screen in the
center, and see what it does. Then play trim tabs.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420p (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Firestar II for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James" <jamesl@acncanada.net>
Selling :1995 Firestar II, 120 TT ,503 DCDI.three blade IVO. pull start,airspeed,alt.,and
compass plus engine instruments.Located southern Ontario (Wheatley)
$12500.cdn.
Jim ,email or phone 519-825-3569
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Rick,
If your had to hang your VW engine from a hook with everything but the
prop, what would it weigh?
Also what kind of fuel consumption are you seeing?
I like the VW but they seem heavy.
jerb
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| Subject: | Re: Visitor to KGKY |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 6/6/03 4:01:53 PM Central Standard Time,
rlaird@cavediver.com writes:
<< Just FYI: Just found out that the Bailes contingent headed out to Bowie
yesterday, but got chased back home by a line of severe thunderstorms...
doesn't look like they'll be there.
-- Robert >>
Hey Robert
It was nasty fri .morn but turned off really nice by afternoon. Good turn
out Sat.
Ed
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