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1. 03:41 AM - What gas to burn ? (Airgriff2@aol.com)
2. 04:38 AM - Re: Michigans Thumb (Thom Riddle)
3. 07:09 AM - Re: Oshkosh fly-in (Rick & Martha Neilsen)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: Drag Reduction, FireFly Wing Strut Fairings & A (Jack & Louise Hart)
5. 07:18 AM - lights on kolb (boyd young)
6. 07:51 AM - Re: Oshkosh fly-in (John Hauck)
7. 09:00 AM - Firefly Wanted to buy! (Wayne F.Wilson)
8. 09:57 AM - Re: Fuel pump (DAquaNut@aol.com)
9. 10:06 AM - Re: Oshkosh fly-in (Rick & Martha Neilsen)
10. 11:08 AM - Re: Oshkosh fly-in (Kirk Smith)
11. 11:25 AM - Re: Oshkosh fly-in (John Hauck)
12. 02:41 PM - Jabiru Engine Mount For Sale (tom sabean)
13. 05:05 PM - Oshkosh Fly-in (Scott Trask)
14. 08:06 PM - Re: Oshkosh fly-in (woody)
15. 08:15 PM - Re: Fuel pump (jerb)
16. 08:23 PM - Re: Oshkosh fly-in (John Hauck)
17. 09:10 PM - Re: Fuel pump (Gene Ledbetter)
18. 09:12 PM - Re: Michigans Thumb (Larry Bourne)
19. 09:13 PM - For Sale - Kolb FireFly (jerb)
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| Subject: | What gas to burn ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
I understand that here in NY, all gas manufacturers will be ban from using
MTBE. This is the additive that Rotax says is ok in 2 stroke engines. Some gas
companies use alcohol based additives which are not good for 2 strokes. Up to
this point , pilots in this area have been using Hess or Sunoco which have been
using MTBE. With the upcoming ban on MTBE ,on or before the first of the
year, I,m not sure what we are going to do? Have any of you on the list ran into
this problem and how did you deal with it. Possibly some companies will not put
additives in at all, but most do to boost the octane rating.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: Michigans Thumb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
I am new to the Kolb List and would like to meet you when you come through Niagara
Falls area. I live in Tonawanda a northern suburb of Buffalo and keep my plane
at Buffalo Airfield (9G0), southeast side of Buffalo. If you are planning
on viewing the falls from the air, there is now a permanent NOTAM and TFR which
dictates and limits the way one can fly over the falls. 3500' min., clockwise
pattern, radio announce position etc. etc. etc.
Thom in Buffalo
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick & Martha Neilsen <neilsenrm@comcast.net>
John or anyone else that would like to stop in Lansing MI (actually Grand
Ledge) on the way to Oshkosh you are welcome. I have a 1400' private strip
next to the house with plenty of room for camping. I would like to join up
with anyone flying to Scott Trask's. There is a lot of beautiful country in
the UP but there are also areas were downed airplanes haven't been found for
years.
Also we haven't heard back from Scott on what he may have gotten himself
into.
Let me know and I will send coordinates and directions for my strip.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIII
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Hauck
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oshkosh fly-in
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> You'd be welcome to hang your hat here on the back forty.
> Scott Trask Mk111 @ IMT
Hi Scott/All:
Maybe I should of said "YO"! EH!
Anyhow, send us your gps coordinates. Will never
find your cabin in all those trees and swamps
without them.
When shall we meet at Scott's? How far north of
OSH is your airstrip? Historically, it would be a
nice flight for me from Alabama. 1989, came into
OSH from the north in my Firestar.
What do you all say? If we can't make it before
OSH, them maybe we could hookup afterwards.
Beautiful country right up the road from Scott's,
around the Marquette, MI/Lake Superior area.
Usually, cool up there in the summer time.
john h
PS: Some of you all thought we were kidding about
MV, but look how many of the good guys showed up
and boy did we have fun!
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| Subject: | Re: Drag Reduction, FireFly Wing Strut Fairings & A |
Quieter FireFly
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 11:22 PM 6/10/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
>Seems like I remember an old Waco? Stinson? (something) that had two struts
>per side, and the bottom third of the strut gap on each side was joined
>with one large streamline to reduce the interference drag caused by the one
>strut being close behind the other. Might be worth taking a real close look
>at the chart in the Part 103 documentation and see if you could get away
>with fairing/combining part/a lot of the lower part of the two struts
>together and still make the legalities work? Or would it cause too much
>trouble setting up/breaking down the aircraft? Would it be worth the trouble?
>
Richard,
Dennis used just about the minimum distance for the struts to count, and he separated
the upper ends to meet the eight inch criteria. When I mounted the faired
struts to the lower mount, I had to trim away some of the fairing material
so that so that the lower ends of both struts do become pretty much as one.
One has to be careful to still meet the four foot length requirement. The part
relating to struts from Part 103-7 is shown below:
Maximum Level Flight Air Speed Calculations - Appendix
1
********************************************************
5. Exposed Struts Drag Factor (total struts over 4 feet long
and 45 to 90 degrees to airflow [excluding those associated
with landing gear] = __4__ x 0.4) .............................
__1.60__
The number of wires or struts, not associated with the landing
gear,
which are OVER 4 FEET LONG with an angle of 45 TO 90 DEGREES
TO THE
AIRFLOW are counted and multiplied times the given values.
... Wires or
struts located parallel to and behind other wires or struts
in the airflow
are not counted if they do not flare uniformally away from
any common
attaching point, achieving a minimum separation of at least
8 inches.
---------
At the hangar, I am going to have to play with some more foam to see if I can shape
some smooth transistions between the upper strut ends and the bottom of the
wing and the lower strut ends and the fuselage. I believe the trick is going
to be how to use some light quick disconnects to these shapes so that they
will not complicate wing folding. But this will have to wait while I will after
the larger drag components.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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<bbrocious@hotmail.com>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
I dont have any on mine and it passed.
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Let me know and I will send coordinates and directions for my strip.
>
> Rick Neilsen
Rick/All:
Send the your coords.
I have no firm plans now, but would file the
coords away just in case.
I flew up through Michigan in 1989, in the
Firestar. RON's at Linden, MI. Then on up to
Sault Saint Marie, and across to Manistique for
another RON. Came into OSH from the North that
year. Might be nice to refly that route again.
Will let you know what I decided to do when the
time comes.
Have not heard from Scott Trask yet.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Firefly Wanted to buy! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne F.Wilson" <wfwilson1@yahoo.ca>
I am looking for a Firefly in any stage of
construction from Kit to complete and flying. Prefer
without engine.
Located in Ontario Canada near Detroit MI.
Yours truly
Wayne F Wilson
wfwilson1@yahoo.ca
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Fireflyers,
Is there a better place to mount the mikuni fuel pump, than on the tab
under the rear lord mount that the plans call for? Have they changed the
location on the newer fireflies? Also, is there a need for a rubber washer or
grommet under the fuel pump to reduce vibration? Seems Ive seen where they mounted
a
pump on a piece of 3/4x 3/4 x1/16 angle. Thanks to those who have helped in
the past.
Ed ( Installing 447 in Houston)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick & Martha Neilsen <neilsenrm@comcast.net>
John/All
The coordinates for my airport are N 42 43.061 W 84 43.321 on aircraft maps
I'm 1.25 statute miles due west of the Lansing VOR. The runway is really
only a one way strip due to trees and power lines on the east end so I take
off on 26 and land on 08. It is app 1400 ft long, grass. It is my private
strip and with lots of area for camping. Everyone is welcome.
You may want to buzz the runway to check for or scare off the deer.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIII
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Hauck
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oshkosh fly-in
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Let me know and I will send coordinates and directions for my strip.
>
> Rick Neilsen
Rick/All:
Send the your coords.
I have no firm plans now, but would file the
coords away just in case.
I flew up through Michigan in 1989, in the
Firestar. RON's at Linden, MI. Then on up to
Sault Saint Marie, and across to Manistique for
another RON. Came into OSH from the North that
year. Might be nice to refly that route again.
Will let you know what I decided to do when the
time comes.
Have not heard from Scott Trask yet.
Take care,
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
As long as us Michiganders are at it. My GPS N 43 10.8 W 83 21.1
Lots of camping room, pond for a dip or catch a bass, plenty of shade. 2100
feet 9/27 one mile east of the north and south branch of the Flint
river. Watch for deer and wild turkeys. Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The coordinates for my airport are N 42 43.061 W 84 43.321
Rick/All:
Thanks for the coords. They will go in my gps
tonight under the name RICKN.
Will plan on coming through that way to OSH, for
now. Plans not concrete at this time.
I think it would be cool to have a dozen or so
Kolbs hit the Ultralight Airstrip in the UL area
at OSH a the same time. :-)
john h
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| Subject: | Jabiru Engine Mount For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: tom sabean <sabean@ns.sympatico.ca>
Hi Fellas,
Decided to go with a Rotax 912 for my Mark111Xtra project so I have an
engine mount for a Jabiru 2200 that I need to sell. It was sold to me by
Pete Krotje at Jabiru USA. It includes the welded tubular mount, all the
associated AN hardware, aluminium mounting plates, and bulkhead cable
adjusters. Basically everything you need to mount it on a Mark111 or a
Kolbra. Also includes the prop extension. Everything is still in the
box. Paid $ 635 in total, willing to sell for $500.
Contact me at sabean@ns.sympatico.ca
Thanks,
Tom Sabean
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
This is what I propose. I'm off of work from July 25 to Aug.8. We can
leave the first nice day or evening at the start of the event. If it looks
like it would be better to leave in the late afternoon we could. We could
stay the night at a private strip. A friend has very nice place 10 miles
from OSH. He has rooms and sometimes hanger space.
I'm 120 miles north from OSH. N4553.478 W088 04.598 When it gets a
little closer to the event we can touch base who's going and more details. I
have other ideas that we can kick around off site. Looking forward to it.
Scott Trask IMT
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
>
>
>I think it would be cool to have a dozen or so
>Kolbs hit the Ultralight Airstrip in the UL area
>at OSH a the same time. :-)
>
>john h
Depending on the legalities I would like to try that next year. Count me
in if you don't mind flying with a foreigner.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
What is the problem with it mounted directly to the bracket on the FireFly,
works for us. I've seen Phantoms with them mounted directly on the engine,
works for them. Keep the pulse line short 12" or less and use pulse line
not the thinner wall fuel line. Is there something I and Kolb missed?
jerb
At 12:57 PM 6/11/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Fireflyers,
> Is there a better place to mount the mikuni fuel pump, than on the tab
>under the rear lord mount that the plans call for? Have they changed the
>location on the newer fireflies? Also, is there a need for a rubber washer or
>grommet under the fuel pump to reduce vibration? Seems Ive seen where they
>mounted a
>pump on a piece of 3/4x 3/4 x1/16 angle. Thanks to those who have helped in
>the past.
>
> Ed ( Installing 447 in Houston)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Depending on the legalities I would like to try that next year. Count me
> in if you don't mind flying with a foreigner.
Woody/All:
Personally, I put you and the rest of the guys
from all over the world right in there with the
rest of the Kolb family. When we get together, we
don't have any foreigners, just folks that live in
different places and bring a lot of experience and
information together for us to use and enjoy.
Would be honored to fly in to OSH with any of you
all.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Gene Ledbetter <gdledbetter1@fuse.net>
I have 200 hours on the Firefly with the fuel pump mounted in the
standard position without any problem. I agree that this location
minimizes the length of pulse line. Seems like a good thing to me.
Gene Ledbetter
Cincinnati
Firefly 200+ hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Michigans Thumb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sometimes it pays to kick back and wait a bit, and I'm glad I didn't force a
confrontation yesterday. Today, after things had cooled down a bit, a major
problem arose at work, (good timing, what ??) and I pulled a very large
rabbit out of a very small hat, and was the hero of the hour. It led easily
into the next stage of negotiations, and I got my time off. Last day of
work is June 26, and I return to work Sept 7, sooooo.................even if
the cricks DO rise, we gonna be off and running, eh ??.............and
should be able to accomplish most of what's been (and being) planned. Good
news, eh ?? I plan to be so far back at times, that they'll hafta pipe
sunlight to me. What Fun ! ! ! Relieved Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Michigans Thumb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> I'll know more tomorrow. As I said yesterday, I plan on coming thru
> Michigan, north to south, around the end of July. Lots happening en
route,
> so exact planning isn't possible, tho' I do hafta wait till August before
> arriving in West Virginia. Now, my boss is digging in his heels at the
idea
> of me being gone for 2 1/2 months - tho' I've been talking about it for
the
> last 6 months. Now, all of a sudden the time is NOW, he realizes I'm
> serious, and he's freaking. It got pretty salty today, and I'll know more
> tomorrow. It's easy to make big noises, but this is a VERY good job that
I
> really enjoy.............so I may hafta modify my plans a little. I'll
keep
> you posted. I'll be on the computer as I travel, and would really enjoy
> meeting the people I've been talking to for so long................and
for
> sure promoting a ride here & there. Monument Valley was a great example.
> As I approach your (anyones) area, let me know, and I'll see if I can stop
> for a bit. I've found that it's much easier and more comfortable for
> everyone if I spend the nights in my camper, and socialize during the day
> and early evening. That way I don't hafta tear up my "home" in order to
> mess up someone's spare room for no real reason. Just need a reasonably
> flat area to park in. Electric hookup is nice, but not necessary unless
> it's hot enuf to need the a/c - otherwise, I'm self contained.
> Gogittin' Lar Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> www.gogittum.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Michigans Thumb
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
> >
> >
> > When will you be making it through the Detroit area? Gotta get the
> totem
> > pole ready for your visit.
> >
> >
> > At 12:07 AM 6/10/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> > >
> > >At about the end of July, I'll be coming down Michigan's Upper
Peninsula,
> on
> > >the way from Minnesota & Wisconsin, to southern Ontario, and Niagara
> Falls,
> > >before heading for Baltimore, West-by-god-Virginia, and points south.
> It'd
> > >be nice to meet some of you in that area, and maybe even promote a
> > >sightseeing ride..........or 3. (???) I'll be leaving here in about 2
> 1/2
> > >weeks, and heading north to Oregon, Idaho, Washington, British
Columbia,
> > >then east. Ground Bound (for now) Lar.
> Do
> > >not Archive.
> > >
> > >Larry Bourne
> > >Palm Springs, CA
> > >Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> > >
> > >www.gogittum.com
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "al bumhoffer" <abumhoffer@yahoo.com>
> > >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Kolb-List: Michigans Thumb
> > >
> > >
>
>
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| Subject: | For Sale - Kolb FireFly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
For Sale:
We need hangar space so one of our toys must go.
Kolb FireFly - Folding Wing Rotax 447 ~150 Hrs Wht-Red 6" Whls Brks Chute
EIS Enclosure Located N-Dallas TX Were not going to give it away but we're
willing to talk.
Contact: Jerry 972-517-0946 jerryb@airmail.net
Gary 972-242-1620 N-Dallas TX ghansen@airmail.net
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