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1. 04:58 AM - Re: Pitch Stability (johnjung@compusenior.com)
2. 05:07 AM - Re: Rectifer (John Hauck)
3. 05:09 AM - Re: Rectifer (John Hauck)
4. 05:47 AM - Re: Ultralights and Airports (Larry Austin)
5. 06:53 AM - Re: Rectifier (Jack & Louise Hart)
6. 07:34 AM - First Successful Test Flight ! (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
7. 10:10 AM - Re: First Successful Test Flight ! (John Hauck)
8. 10:19 AM - BRS repack (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
9. 10:36 AM - Re: BRS repack (John Hauck)
10. 11:14 AM - Re: Rectifer (DAquaNut@aol.com)
11. 06:05 PM - Check for this virus (sixparsons@earthlink.net)
12. 06:31 PM - Re: Check for this virus - HOAX (Cy Galley)
13. 06:32 PM - Virus hoax (Dave Carr)
14. 06:40 PM - Virus (Jim Hauck)
15. 07:22 PM - Re: First Successful Test Flight ! (Larry Bourne)
16. 08:25 PM - Re: Rectifier (RPHanks@aol.com)
17. 10:11 PM - Re: Rectifer (jerb)
18. 10:36 PM - Re: BRS repack (jerb)
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| Subject: | Re: Pitch Stability |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "johnjung@compusenior.com" <johnjung@compusenior.com>
Rick and Group,
I also prefer to fly in calm air. So I fly in the middle of the day to go places,
and in the evening for pleasure. In order to find smooth air during the day, I
fly
as high as needed. Running too rich has never been a problem with the Rotaxes that
I have flown. All were jetted to fly from a 1,000 ft altitude runway. A 277 went
to
10,500 ASL, a 377 went to 17,000 ASL, and my 503 has been to 12,000 ASL. The flight
to 17,000 was not to find clean air, it was to see how high an original Firestar
could go without rejetting. It could go higher than I could. I stopped because
of
my concern about oxygen. The plane had not stopped climbing.
John Jung
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Linda informed me that a rectifier/regulater does not come with the
> 447engine. Will it run without one.
>
> Ed Diebel
Ed/All:
Sorry. My mistake.
The engine will run without a reg/rec.
I ran the small potted tympanium reg/rec on the
447, and the finned larger typanium on the 582.
Had Dan White Illussion Strobes run by the 447 and
Whelan Double Flash Strobes and Nav Lights run by
the 582. No problem producing the required power.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The shunt one will waste some engine power, most of the others have around
> a 3 amp output limit so what you can run on the 12V DC is limited, no strobes.
> jerb
jerb/Gang:
See my previous msg to Ed D. I had no problem
running all my electrical stuff with the small and
larger tympanium reg/rec. That was back in the
dark ages, 10 years and much more ago. Maybe all
that has changed now. I do not know.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralights and Airports |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Austin" <joandlp@starband.net>
BlankSounds like great advise John. I was raised in Ft Payne. What part of
Alabama are you in?
Larry
When a logical person finds themselves in a hole they stop digging. A
Republican will ask for a bigger shovel..
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 01:01 AM 6/17/03 EDT, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
d> Linda informed me that a rectifier/regulater does not come with the
>447engine. Will it run without one. Im wanting to get one that doesnt waste power
>from the engine & turn it into heat in the rectifier itself. I believe that is
>what happens in the Key West unit. Im still not sure which unit to get. Do they
>all get hot?Thanks to all who have replied.
Ed,
I have been using a Key West for about 80 hours and with no problems. I do not
believe it is a shunt type regulator because it has no cooling fins nor does
it generate large amounts of heat. Currently, I run a GPS, radio, coolant temperature
gage, and a small 55 watt nose light directly from the regulator. Before
I removed it, strobes were on the list too. The regulator also charges the
battery, but a diode prevents the battery from supplying current to anything
but the starter.
I received a comment from some one on this list that I should heat sink the back
of the regulator to keep it from burning up. I placed a temperature pickup on
the back of the regulator and checked the temperature rise during some static
engine run up tests. I found the regulator surface temperature increased fourteen
degrees when the engine, a Rotax 447, was running 6000 rpm. The only regulator
load was the strobe lights.
You can see my installation at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly50.html
As long as the alternator leads do not become shorted together, you should have
no trouble running your engine without a voltage regulator attached.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | First Successful Test Flight ! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Kolb Friends -
Flew my Mark-3 for the first time this weekend without BREAKING anything!
(Listers may recall: The maiden flight of my plane was last September, but
that flight ended with me stalling it at 8 feet above the runway and bending
both landing gear legs. Gads, how embarrassing!)
Since Sept, I've replaced the gear legs and got some flight training in a
Rans S-12 (thanks again, Dave Rains), and in TNK's Mark-3 Extra. Glad I did
- the training really paid off.
I just finished installing a BRS Softpack, and I needed to do a new weight &
balance calculation. New empty weight of my Kolb is 595 lbs.
So, this was only my second flight. Was still a little bit scary, but WOW -
what an exhilarating flight it was! Flew about an hour. Everything
performed flawlessly - engine, instruments, radio, etc. The Verner engine
ran smoothly.
Here are some preliminary numbers:
Field Elev: 6200' msl
Density Alt: 8000' (65 deg F)
Prop: 72-inch diam Powerfin, 3 blade, 9.5 deg pitch
Climb: 700 fpm, 58 mph @ full throttle, 4400 rpm (5000 is redline)
4200 rpm - 62 mph (2-to-1 gear reduction)
3800 - 55
3400 - 42
3000 - 38 mph, stall speed
I did not do any full-throttle level speed runs.
I think I'll fly a few more times before I experiment with a different prop
pitch
And so, with renewed confidence, I begin my Phase-I flight test program (40
hours), and I'm looking forward to many more "uneventful" flights!
Dennis Kirby
N93DK, s/n 300
Mark-3, Verner-1400, Powerfin-72
Cedar Crest, New Mexico
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| Subject: | Re: First Successful Test Flight ! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> And so, with renewed confidence, I begin my Phase-I flight test program (40
> hours), and I'm looking forward to many more "uneventful" flights!
>
> Dennis Kirby
Dennis/All:
Congratulations. You have waited and trained
patiently for that flight. Good on ya!!!
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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06/17/2003 01:19:51 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
My BRS just exceeded its labeled service life, so I checked the web site
about a repack, and was stunned to see that the cost of a basic repack for
a VLS model is $700, with another $75 needed for shipping. If your system
is 12 years old or more, the rocket needs replacement, and the price jumps
to $1,060. Man, that is steep. What exactly are they doing in that
repack? And what exactly could have changed inside my sealed VLS that has
either been inside a trailer or a hangar for the last four years, except
when flying? Grrrrrrrr!
I guess Im stuck, but for what its worth, the softpack models seem to be
about half of the above prices. When I was ordering mine, I was told soft
pack wasnt an option for a Mrk III, but I guess some people are using them.
Something to keep in mind for those considering a purchase.
Erich Weaver
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
When I was ordering mine, I was told soft
> pack wasnt an option for a Mrk III, but I guess some people are using them.
> Erich Weaver
Erich/All:
I went with the soft pack, inside the center
section, rocket and all, sealed under a hair cell
frangible plastic sheet. This extends the soft
pack life before repack to 6 years. A requirement
exists to ship the parachute back to BRS for
repack. They use a special hydraulic ram to
compress during the packing process. I think the
parachute will go longer than 6 years and still
open correctly. They see us coming, don't
they.................
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group,
Thanks for all the input on regulators. Ive decided to go with the Key
West like Kolb sells.
Ed Diebel
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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"Carroll, Stacey" <Chr4lgurl@aol.com>, "Casey, Jeremy" <jrcasey@ldl.com>,
"Casey, Jeremy" <jrcasey@ldl.net>,
"Casey, Michael" <shortmike189@hotmail.com>,
"Casey, Shane" <swcasey@msn.com>, "Davis, John" <drjldavis@yahoo.com>,
"Dooley, Mark" <MADooley@mpbaptist.org>,
"Duke, Marsha and Bob" <OLDDUKE1@aol.com>,
"Goss, Thelma" <thelmagoss@juno.com>, "Hauck, John" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>,
"Howard, Lindsey" <KrAzYLiNdS1469@aol.com>,
"Lunceford, Sharyn" <sharyn_lunceford16@hotmail.com>,
"McGee, Andrew" <jjirehmusic@earhtlink.net>,
"McGee, Graehm" <ruthanne63@earthlink.net>,
"Rhodes, Scott" <Rhodego@aol.com>,
"Rice, Travis S." <tsrice@baptistcollege.edu>,
"Server, Kolb-List Digest" <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com>,
"Taylor, Kristin" <AngelMelodies1@aol.com>,
"Tubbs, Holle" <thesuperwop@hotmail.com>,
"Tubbs, Sean" <Tinfoilmadhatter@aol.com>,
"Turner, Jessica" <Logan4575@aol.com>
| Subject: | Check for this virus |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: sixparsons@earthlink.net
Hello Everyone,
Blank A virus has been passed to me by contact. My address book has in turn been
affected. I found this and since you are in my address book it is a good possibility
that you have been affected too. I followed the directions below and
eradicated the virus easily. The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected
by Norton or McAfee systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging
the system.It is sent automatically by the address book whether or not you
sent e-mails to your contacts.
Here is how you check for the virus and get rid of it.
1.Go to start, find or search option
2.In the file/folders option type: jdbgmgr.exe
3.Be sure to search your C: drives and all the subfolders and any other drives
you may have.
4.Click "find now"
5.The file has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe. DO NOT OPEN IT!
6.Go to edit on the menu bar, choose "select all" to highlight the file without
opening it.
7.Now go to the file on the menu bar and select "delete." It will then go to the
recycle bin.
IF YOU FIND THIS VIRUS, YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK SO
THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR OWN ADDRESS BOOKS.
To do this:
1.Open a new e-mail message.
2.Click on the icon of the address book next to "TO"
3.Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
4.Copy this message and paste to e-mail.
5.Enter Subject.
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"Carlisle, Jr., Paul" <pandtcarlisle@hotmail.com>,
"Carroll, Stacey" <Chr4lgurl@aol.com>, "Casey, Jeremy" <jrcasey@ldl.com>,
"Casey, Jeremy" <jrcasey@ldl.net>,
"Casey, Michael" <shortmike189@hotmail.com>,
"Casey, Shane" <swcasey@msn.com>, "Davis, John" <drjldavis@yahoo.com>,
"Dooley, Mark" <MADooley@mpbaptist.org>,
"Duke, Marsha and Bob" <OLDDUKE1@aol.com>,
"Goss, Thelma" <thelmagoss@juno.com>, "Hauck, John" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>,
"Howard, Lindsey" <KrAzYLiNdS1469@aol.com>,
"Lunceford, Sharyn" <sharyn_lunceford16@hotmail.com>,
"McGee, Andrew" <jjirehmusic@earhtlink.net>,
"McGee, Graehm" <ruthanne63@earthlink.net>,
"Rhodes, Scott" <Rhodego@aol.com>,
"Rice, Travis S." <tsrice@baptistcollege.edu>,
"Server, Kolb-List Digest" <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com>,
"Taylor, Kristin" <AngelMelodies1@aol.com>,
"Tubbs, Holle" <thesuperwop@hotmail.com>,
"Tubbs, Sean" <Tinfoilmadhatter@aol.com>,
"Turner, Jessica" <Logan4575@aol.com>
| Subject: | Re: Check for this virus - HOAX |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
This is a hoax, do not delete this file. Check at
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/jdbgmgr.htm
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
www.bellanca-championclub.com
Actively supporting Aeroncas every day
Quarterly newsletters on time
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----- Original Message -----
From: <sixparsons@earthlink.net>
<Chr4lgurl@aol.com>; "Casey, Jeremy" <jrcasey@ldl.com>; "Casey, Jeremy"
<jrcasey@ldl.net>; "Casey, Michael" <shortmike189@hotmail.com>; "Casey,
Shane" <swcasey@msn.com>; "Davis, John" <drjldavis@yahoo.com>; "Dooley,
Mark" <MADooley@mpbaptist.org>; "Duke, Marsha and Bob" <OLDDUKE1@aol.com>;
"Goss, Thelma" <thelmagoss@juno.com>; "Hauck, John" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>;
"Howard, Lindsey" <KrAzYLiNdS1469@aol.com>; "Lunceford, Sharyn"
<sharyn_lunceford16@hotmail.com>; "McGee, Andrew"
<jjirehmusic@earhtlink.net>; "McGee, Graehm" <ruthanne63@earthlink.net>;
"Rhodes, Scott" <Rhodego@aol.com>; "Rice, Travis S."
<tsrice@baptistcollege.edu>; "Server, Kolb-List Digest"
<kolb-list-digest@matronics.com>; "Taylor, Kristin"
<AngelMelodies1@aol.com>; "Tubbs, Holle" <thesuperwop@hotmail.com>; "Tubbs,
Sean" <Tinfoilmadhatter@aol.com>; "Turner, Jessica" <Logan4575@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Check for this virus
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: sixparsons@earthlink.net
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Blank A virus has been passed to me by contact. My address book has in
turn been affected. I found this and since you are in my address book it is
a good possibility that you have been affected too. I followed the
directions below and eradicated the virus easily. The virus (called
jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Norton or McAfee systems. The virus sits
quietly for 14 days before damaging the system.It is sent automatically by
the address book whether or not you sent e-mails to your contacts.
>
> Here is how you check for the virus and get rid of it.
> 1.Go to start, find or search option
> 2.In the file/folders option type: jdbgmgr.exe
> 3.Be sure to search your C: drives and all the subfolders and any other
drives you may have.
> 4.Click "find now"
> 5.The file has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe. DO NOT OPEN
IT!
> 6.Go to edit on the menu bar, choose "select all" to highlight the file
without opening it.
> 7.Now go to the file on the menu bar and select "delete." It will then go
to the recycle bin.
>
> IF YOU FIND THIS VIRUS, YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS
BOOK SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR OWN ADDRESS BOOKS.
>
> To do this:
> 1.Open a new e-mail message.
> 2.Click on the icon of the address book next to "TO"
> 3.Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
> 4.Copy this message and paste to e-mail.
> 5.Enter Subject.
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Carr" <dcarr@uniontel.net>
Hi Guys: If all of you got that email message about a virus, IT IS A HOAX,
Do NOT delete any of the file it says to do. It is just a hoax. Just ignore
it completely and it will do no harm. Believe me I have been there and done
that!!!!\
Dave Carr
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@velocityonline.net>
Folks,
The message listing jdbgmgr.exe, is not a virus, it is a windows file which works
the debugging portion of Java.
It is a HOAX
Don't Delete it
.
Jim Hauck
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| Subject: | Re: First Successful Test Flight ! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Congratulations, Dennis - You sure worked for that, and did it right, too.
Good for you. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Subject: Kolb-List: First Successful Test Flight !
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Kolb Friends -
>
> Flew my Mark-3 for the first time this weekend without BREAKING anything!
>
> (Listers may recall: The maiden flight of my plane was last September, but
> that flight ended with me stalling it at 8 feet above the runway and
bending
> both landing gear legs. Gads, how embarrassing!)
>
> Since Sept, I've replaced the gear legs and got some flight training in a
> Rans S-12 (thanks again, Dave Rains), and in TNK's Mark-3 Extra. Glad I
did
> - the training really paid off.
>
> I just finished installing a BRS Softpack, and I needed to do a new weight
&
> balance calculation. New empty weight of my Kolb is 595 lbs.
>
> So, this was only my second flight. Was still a little bit scary, but
WOW -
> what an exhilarating flight it was! Flew about an hour. Everything
> performed flawlessly - engine, instruments, radio, etc. The Verner engine
> ran smoothly.
>
> Here are some preliminary numbers:
>
> Field Elev: 6200' msl
> Density Alt: 8000' (65 deg F)
> Prop: 72-inch diam Powerfin, 3 blade, 9.5 deg pitch
>
> Climb: 700 fpm, 58 mph @ full throttle, 4400 rpm (5000 is redline)
>
> 4200 rpm - 62 mph (2-to-1 gear reduction)
> 3800 - 55
> 3400 - 42
> 3000 - 38 mph, stall speed
> I did not do any full-throttle level speed runs.
> I think I'll fly a few more times before I experiment with a different
prop
> pitch
>
> And so, with renewed confidence, I begin my Phase-I flight test program
(40
> hours), and I'm looking forward to many more "uneventful" flights!
>
> Dennis Kirby
> N93DK, s/n 300
> Mark-3, Verner-1400, Powerfin-72
> Cedar Crest, New Mexico
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: RPHanks@aol.com
Ed:
You won't be disappointed with the Key West. I have 150 hrs on mine so far
with no problems. I don't have a battery and run everything right off the Key
West.
Roger
If a sane person finds themselves in a hole they dig their way out. A
democrat will first blame a Republican for putting them in the hole, then demand
a
government program to get them out of the hole and finally, sue the shovel
manufacturer!
Sorry, I couldn't resist :-)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
John,
Were you running the strobes that could be powered directly off the
lighting coil or one that required 12VDC. My Kuntzleman dual heads use
12VDC and require approx 3 amps. He also makes unit(s) which power from
the lighting coil.
jerb
At 07:06 AM 6/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> > The shunt one will waste some engine power, most of the others have around
> > a 3 amp output limit so what you can run on the 12V DC is limited, no
> strobes.
> > jerb
>
>jerb/Gang:
>
>See my previous msg to Ed D. I had no problem
>running all my electrical stuff with the small and
>larger tympanium reg/rec. That was back in the
>dark ages, 10 years and much more ago. Maybe all
>that has changed now. I do not know.
>
>john h
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
I side with you, I can not see any done during the repack to justify the
price they want. This is what happens when you allow a single source to
develop, like Microsoft. I spoke with them at Sun & Fun and suffered
sticker shock when they stated the their price for a VLS repack. Their
sales person made a comment something to the effect that if you need it, it
will be worth it. Getting to be a pretty expensive fire extinguisher,
approaching extortion. Figure that comes to a little over $10 a month
revenue for each owner. looks like were renting these things.
jerb
At 10:18 AM 6/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
>
>
>My BRS just exceeded its labeled service life, so I checked the web site
>about a repack, and was stunned to see that the cost of a basic repack for
>a VLS model is $700, with another $75 needed for shipping. If your system
>is 12 years old or more, the rocket needs replacement, and the price jumps
>to $1,060. Man, that is steep. What exactly are they doing in that
>repack? And what exactly could have changed inside my sealed VLS that has
>either been inside a trailer or a hangar for the last four years, except
>when flying? Grrrrrrrr!
>
>I guess Im stuck, but for what its worth, the softpack models seem to be
>about half of the above prices. When I was ordering mine, I was told soft
>pack wasnt an option for a Mrk III, but I guess some people are using them.
>Something to keep in mind for those considering a purchase.
>
>Erich Weaver
>
>
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