Kolb-List Digest Archive

Wed 06/18/03


Total Messages Posted: 26



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:10 AM - Re: First Successful Test Flight ! (Dave Rains)
     2. 04:29 AM - Re: Digging a hole (Thom Riddle)
     3. 05:04 AM - Re: Re: Digging a hole (Jack & Louise Hart)
     4. 05:29 AM - Ken Fackler's Grampa and gramma's 1st flight (Kirk Smith)
     5. 06:14 AM - yea yea yea (David Key)
     6. 07:00 AM - x country flying (boyd young)
     7. 07:00 AM - Pitch Stability & Cross Country Flying (boyd young)
     8. 07:06 AM - Re: BRS repack (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
     9. 07:26 AM - Re: Re: BRS repack (John Hauck)
    10. 07:44 AM - Re: Rectifer (John Hauck)
    11. 08:40 AM - Re: First Successful Test Flight ! (John Cooley)
    12. 08:49 AM - Re: First Successful Test Flight ! (William George)
    13. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: Digging a hole (Doug Wetzel)
    14. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: BRS repack (Ben Ransom)
    15. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: Digging a hole (J.D. Stewart)
    16. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: BRS repack (John Hauck)
    17. 12:43 PM - MV Pictures (John Hauck)
    18. 02:36 PM - FAA Inspection + W&B (Ian Heritch)
    19. 03:08 PM - Re: MV Pictures (John Williamson)
    20. 04:12 PM - MV Flight Photos and Captions (John Hauck)
    21. 04:21 PM - Re: MV Pictures (John Hauck)
    22. 07:43 PM - Re: MV Pictures ()
    23. 08:35 PM - Re: MV Flight Photos and Captions (Larry Bourne)
    24. 08:38 PM - Re: MV Flight Photos and Captions (Larry Bourne)
    25. 09:16 PM - Re: MV Flight Photos and Captions (John Hauck)
    26. 09:58 PM - Re: MV Flight Photos and Captions (Larry Bourne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:10:33 AM PST US
    From: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
    Subject: First Successful Test Flight !
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net> Glad to hear you finally got her back up! Hope to hear about your exploits in the future. Dave Rains do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM [SMTP:Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil] Subject: Kolb-List: First Successful Test Flight ! --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Kolb Friends - Flew my Mark-3 for the first time this weekend without BREAKING anything!


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    Time: 04:29:17 AM PST US
    From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Digging a hole
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> Political types of all stripes divide the people into them and us, causing all sorts of enmity to justify their existence and agendas. Humanitarians work together to fill the hole and climb the next mountain together. Go fly your planes and leave the politics for the ground bound.


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    Time: 05:04:16 AM PST US
    From: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
    Subject: Re: Digging a hole
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> At 07:30 AM 6/18/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > >Political types of all stripes divide the people into them and us, causing all sorts of enmity to justify their existence and agendas. Humanitarians work together to fill the hole and climb the next mountain together. > >Go fly your planes and leave the politics for the ground bound. > Thom, I believe this is one of those "do not archive" items too. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net


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    Time: 05:29:40 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Ken Fackler's Grampa and gramma's 1st flight
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> Every year they went to the county fair and Grampa would say" Ma, I'd sure like to go for a ride in that airplane." Ma would say " But it's 50 bucks and 50 bucks is 50 bucks." So another year would go by and another arguement but no flight for Pa. The pilot would park his plane and watch them argue year after year. Finally when Pa was 85 he said to Ma. " Ma, I'm 85 and might not live another year and never get a chance to go for that plane ride." Of course Ma came back with the same answer," 50 bucks is 50 bucks" . The pilot sat listening to them argue and finally said." I'll give both of you a ride if you can be quiet the entire ride. If you say a word , it's 50 bucks. They agreed. He took them up and did loops, spins, snap rolls, tail slides, the works. Not a word from either. After landing he said to to Pa," That was a amazing, I would have never believed it. Not a single word from either of you." Pa said, " I was gonna say something when Ma fell out, but 50 bucks is 50 bucks. Do Not Archive


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    Time: 06:14:26 AM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: yea yea yea
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com> When a logical person finds themselves in a hole they stop digging. A Republican will ask for a bigger shovel.. A Democrat will ask the guy doing the work to dig more for the people that don't work.


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    Time: 07:00:35 AM PST US
    From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: x country flying
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> . Sometimes, if you get the right controller, he will go to the extra effort of ID'ing you on radar by flying different headings and altitudes, then vectoring you into Class C airspace. I do not mess with Class B airspace. Too many big silver birds to blow me out of the sky. Scares me. :-) john h for me the class b is easy.... you do have to call an hour befor you go through.. but my trip through the class b on the way to and from monument valley was extreemely gratifying, the controlers were sooo helpfull and willing to take care of me, that i called up and told the supervisor just how pleased i was with my treatment.... then sent a quick note for him to post so all the controllers could see. they hand walked my trhough the area, and from what i could hear on the radio it was esaiser for me than some with the proper mode c transponders. boyd do not archive.


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    Time: 07:00:35 AM PST US
    From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Pitch Stability & Cross Country Flying
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> : Pitch Stability & Cross Country Flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick & Martha Neilsen <neilsenrm@comcast.net> My MKIII likes to fly at 75MPH but I find that the airplane is unstable in pitch. I isn't difficult to fly but requires constant attention. I find that the airplane will not hold a pitch angle even trimmed. i am not sure what is going on with youre plane... but mine is set up as per the plans... it seems that the uneasyness in rough air is due to the light wing loading... what would be light turbulance in a cesna will be aproaching moderate in the kolb.. when things get real rough i slow down a bit and it seems to handel it better. as for what altitude i fly, i dont have a set answer... usually fly according to the conditions i find myself in / over. boyd do not archive


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    Time: 07:06:05 AM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Re: BRS repack
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Erich Weaver wrote: << I was told soft pack wasnt an option for a Mrk III, but I guess some people are using them. Something to keep in mind for those considering a purchase. >> Erich, and All - I just finished installing a BRS Softpack in my Mark-3. Fits fine behind the passenger seat - a tight, cozy fit. BRS does not have drawings or plans for this installation, so I developed my own. All they offered for the Mark-3 was top-mounted installations. In my installation, the rocket fires out the side and 45 degrees downward, right thru the fabric. BRS even told me that, if I send pictures and drawings of my installation and they think it's adequate, BRS would create "official" drawings and offer them as one of the installation options for the Kolb Mark-3. We'll see what happens ... Dennis Kirby Mark-3, Verner-powered in Cedar Crest, NM


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    Time: 07:26:55 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: BRS repack
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> BRS even told me that, if I send pictures and > drawings of my installation and they think it's adequate, BRS would create > "official" drawings and offer them as one of the installation options for > the Kolb Mark-3. We'll see what happens ... > > Dennis Kirby Dennis/All: Sure they did. How much discount are they going to allow you if you go to the trouble, time, and expense of documenting your installation for BRS to use? Probably the same amount they offered me when I purchased my soft pack three years ago. :-) The main advantage of mounting inside out of the weather is an extention of repack time from 2 years to 6 years. Was worth the time and effort to come up with a suitable/reliable system of my own to mount my parachute out of the elements and inside the center section where it stays dry and out of the sun. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:44:10 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Rectifer
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Were you running the strobes that could be powered directly off the > lighting coil or one that required 12VDC. > jerb jerb/All: The Cuyuna on the Ultastar powered the Dan White Illusion Aircraft Strobes directly from alternator using AC unregulated current. I also used the small epoxy potted Tympanium reg/rec to power whatever I had that required 12DC regulated power. The 447 on the Firestar used the same strobes powered by unregulated AC, and a large finned aluminum Tympanium reg/rec for KX99, electric fuel pump, etc. The 582 used all 12DC regulated through the large Tympanium reg/rec. I have Whelen strobes and nav lights on the MK III. All the 2 strokes have a 155 watt alternator, the 4 strokes have a 250 watt alternator. Would be nice to have more electrical power. Strobes, nav lights, panel lights on at the same time will pull most of my power, leaving the battery going hungry. In those cases, which do not happen very often because I do not fly much at night any more, I run the nav lights and shut down the strobes. If traffic gets busy I'll turn the strobes back on when operating in or near airports. I am legal at night with only nav lights though. john h


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    Time: 08:40:56 AM PST US
    From: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
    Subject: Re: First Successful Test Flight !
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> =0D Hi Dennis,=0D Congrats on your first successful flight. I know you are tickled pink. Keep us posted on how things go.=0D =0D John Cooley=0D =0D =0D do not archive=0D =0D =0D =0D --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>=0D =0D Kolb Friends -=0D =0D Flew my Mark-3 for the first time this weekend without BREAKING anything!=0D =0D (Listers may recall: The maiden flight of my plane was last September, but=0D that flight ended with me stalling it at 8 feet above the runway and bending=0D both landing gear legs. Gads, how embarrassing!)=0D =0D Since Sept, I've replaced the gear legs and got some flight training in a=0D Rans S-12 (thanks again, Dave Rains), and in TNK's Mark-3 Extra. Glad I did=0D - the training really paid off.=0D =0D I just finished installing a BRS Softpack, and I needed to do a new weight &=0D balance calculation. New empty weight of my Kolb is 595 lbs.=0D =0D So, this was only my second flight. Was still a little bit scary, but WOW -=0D what an exhilarating flight it was! Flew about an hour. Everything=0D performed flawlessly - engine, instruments, radio, etc. The Verner engine=0D ran smoothly.=0D =0D Here are some preliminary numbers:=0D =0D Field Elev: 6200' msl=0D Density Alt: 8000' (65 deg F)=0D Prop: 72-inch diam Powerfin, 3 blade, 9.5 deg pitch=0D =0D Climb: 700 fpm, 58 mph @ full throttle, 4400 rpm (5000 is redline)=0D =0D 4200 rpm - 62 mph (2-to-1 gear reduction)=0D 3800 - 55=0D 3400 - 42=0D 3000 - 38 mph, stall speed=0D I did not do any full-throttle level speed runs.=0D I think I'll fly a few more times before I experiment with a different prop=0D pitch=0D =0D And so, with renewed confidence, I begin my Phase-I flight test program (40=0D hours), and I'm looking forward to many more "uneventful" flights!=0D =0D Dennis Kirby=0D N93DK, s/n 300=0D Mark-3, Verner-1400, Powerfin-72=0D Cedar Crest, New Mexico=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =2E


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    Time: 08:49:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Successful Test Flight !
    From: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com> Congratulations Dennis. Good work. It looks like your numbers are close to mine. I am getting about 65mph TAS at 3800 at 5500-6000' msl. I just removed the oil cooler and the next time the winds drop below 30 knots I will see if that helps the oil temperatures. Next flight perhaps you can post the CHTs and oil temps. Again, congratulations! -- Bill George Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin "F" 68" Mk-3 phtos: http://members.surfbest.net/wgeorge@surfbest.net/kolbphotos/ Aerial photos: http://www.hawaiiscenics.com do not archive > From: Kolb-List Digest Server <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com> > Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:56:16 -0700 > To: Kolb-List Digest List <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 06/17/03 > > > > Time: 07:34:15 AM PST US > From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > Subject: Kolb-List: First Successful Test Flight ! > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM > <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > Kolb Friends - > > Flew my Mark-3 for the first time this weekend without BREAKING anything! > > (Listers may recall: The maiden flight of my plane was last September, but > that flight ended with me stalling it at 8 feet above the runway and bending > both landing gear legs. Gads, how embarrassing!) > > Since Sept, I've replaced the gear legs and got some flight training in a > Rans S-12 (thanks again, Dave Rains), and in TNK's Mark-3 Extra. Glad I did > - the training really paid off. > > I just finished installing a BRS Softpack, and I needed to do a new weight & > balance calculation. New empty weight of my Kolb is 595 lbs. > > So, this was only my second flight. Was still a little bit scary, but WOW - > what an exhilarating flight it was! Flew about an hour. Everything > performed flawlessly - engine, instruments, radio, etc. The Verner engine > ran smoothly. > > Here are some preliminary numbers: > > Field Elev: 6200' msl > Density Alt: 8000' (65 deg F) > Prop: 72-inch diam Powerfin, 3 blade, 9.5 deg pitch > > Climb: 700 fpm, 58 mph @ full throttle, 4400 rpm (5000 is redline) > > 4200 rpm - 62 mph (2-to-1 gear reduction) > 3800 - 55 > 3400 - 42 > 3000 - 38 mph, stall speed > I did not do any full-throttle level speed runs. > I think I'll fly a few more times before I experiment with a different prop > pitch > > And so, with renewed confidence, I begin my Phase-I flight test program (40 > hours), and I'm looking forward to many more "uneventful" flights! > > Dennis Kirby > N93DK, s/n 300 > Mark-3, Verner-1400, Powerfin-72 > Cedar Crest, New Mexico


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    Time: 10:14:42 AM PST US
    From: Doug Wetzel <dougwe@wrq.com>
    Subject: Re: Digging a hole
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Doug Wetzel <dougwe@wrq.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Or take it to the Challenger list, where it's welcomed.... Doug Do Not Archive - -----Original Message----- From: Thom Riddle [mailto:jtriddle@adelphia.net] Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Digging a hole - --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" Political types of all stripes divide the people into them and us, causing all sorts of enmity to justify their existence and agendas. Humanitarians work together to fill the hole and climb the next mountain together. Go fly your planes and leave the politics for the ground bound. == == == == -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBPvCd4nOHrG41gAgoEQLMXACfaSHOqTFsFWG2mMDQYCX8R4TyxsUAn2AV 5z32xzDahN5UrLMzRk6xOzP0 =8AtL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


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    Time: 11:09:50 AM PST US
    From: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: BRS repack
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com> Anyone know what it is that dictates 6 year limits? To fess up, I have a BRS that is 8 years old, always been mounted (inside the plane out of weather), or in my garage for that matter. Am I better off putting the chute in my plane with assumed less chance of it working than within the 6 year limit, or leaving it out? -Ben > The main advantage of mounting inside out of the > weather is an extention of repack time from 2 > years to 6 years. Was worth the time and effort > to come up with a suitable/reliable system of my > own to mount my parachute out of the elements and > inside the center section where it stays dry and > out of the sun. > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > ===== http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~ransom __________________________________


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    Time: 11:21:53 AM PST US
    From: "J.D. Stewart" <jstewart@inebraska.com>
    Subject: Re: Digging a hole
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" <jstewart@inebraska.com> No it's not. :>) J.D. Stewart Challenger Owners E-mail list and Website Administrator http://challenger.inebraska.com > Or take it to the Challenger list, where it's welcomed.... > > > Doug >


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    Time: 12:11:33 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: BRS repack
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Anyone know what it is that dictates 6 year limits? To fess up, I have > a BRS that is 8 years old, always been mounted (inside the plane out of > weather), or in my garage for that matter. Am I better off putting the > chute in my plane with assumed less chance of it working than within > the 6 year limit, or leaving it out? > -Ben Ben/All: I do not know what the requirements are for other parachutes than my own, which is a 1050 soft pack. Two years normal, but extended to 6 years if stored and secured out of the weather. Check out BRS web site. They have all the specs there. john h


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    Time: 12:43:38 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: MV Pictures
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Ya'll: Here's the index page address for my pics from recent flight out West: http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Monument%20Valley%202003/jhauck/ Have not had time to come up description of each pic, but will real soon. Will write them up and post on a word pad file with pic number to act as guide. The file for each pic starts out with a two digit number from 01 to 83. This is an interim list of pics. I plan to go back through the originals and edit where needed. If you want a better copy to reporduce, let me know and I will send you one of the originals which are about 350 or a little more kb. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:36:49 PM PST US
    From: "Ian Heritch" <iheritch@satx.rr.com>
    Subject: FAA Inspection + W&B
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ian Heritch" <iheritch@satx.rr.com> Folks, I am nearing the FAA airworthiness inspection and I am confused about the issue of the forward and rearward CG extremes. First, am I required to show the inspector the calculations for the most forward and rearward CG extremes? The plans from Kolb have told me what the CG limits are and I can assume there are many loading scenarios that will calculate to these limits. So if the FAA requires these numbers, how do I calculate them? Do I use my present weight and then do several calculations using various loading scenarios for fuel and passenger? I am not asking how to calculate the CG, but rather how to formulate the equation to give me the forward and rearward extreme CG. This seems a waste of time, as over time, it is likely my weight will change. Thanks for your help. Ian Heritch San Antonio, TX (NBA Champs) Slingshot 912


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    Time: 03:08:51 PM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
    Subject: Re: MV Pictures
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com> Hi John H. and Gang, Thanks for the photos John. I have updated my links so your page can me found later on. http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/OtherKolbPhotos.htm I'm just doing the last minute planning for my next trip that starts this Saturday morning. Plan to spend Saturday night in Mt. Vernon, IL, Sunday night at Olcott-Newfane, NY, Monday night at Eastport, ME, Tuesday night at Sky Manor, NJ, Wednesday night at Ashe County, NC, Visit TNK on Thursday and spend the night at Shelbyville, TN, Get back home on Friday. It's an ambitious plan but I doubt if I can do it without a day or two of weather delays. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, N49KK, Jabiru 2200, 333 hours http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot do not archive


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    Time: 04:12:50 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: MV Flight Photos and Captions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi: Captions are complete. Download and print. Then you can use the captions to view the pics which are numbered from 01 to 83. http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Monument%20Valley%202003/MV%20Photo%20Captions/ Next, open the pic file and hope you enjoy my flight as much as I did: http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Monument%20Valley%202003/Monument%20Valley%20Flt%20Photos/ john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 04:21:23 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: MV Pictures
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > I'm just doing the last minute planning for my next trip that starts this > Saturday morning. > It's an ambitious plan but I doubt if I can do it without a day or two of > weather delays. > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX Hi John: Good luck on your upcoming flight. I will put a good word in for you to the Weather Gods. Might even do an Anti-Rain Dance, or something like that. Be sure and stop in at Sanford, Maine, airport. 9 years ago they had a cafe in the FBO. Good food, IIRC. Got some new urls for my picture index page to update your url list. Raining cats and dogs in hauck's holler, alabama. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:43:23 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: MV Pictures
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> John, Looks like you will be in the area of Dayton Ohio on Saturday. If you get a chance to stop off at Dayton New Lebanon airport I should be there with a lot of other ULs getting prepared for the Sunday departure of the Dayton to Kitty Hawk UL salute to the Wright brothers. If possible, swing by I would love to meet you. Denny Rowe, Mk-3 Leechburg PA, put will be flying my Loehle. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: John Williamson <kolbrapilot@attbi.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV Pictures > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com> > > Hi John H. and Gang, > > Thanks for the photos John. I have updated my links so your page can me > found later on. > http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/OtherKolbPhotos.htm > > I'm just doing the last minute planning for my next trip that starts this > Saturday morning. > Plan to spend Saturday night in Mt. Vernon, IL, > Sunday night at Olcott-Newfane, NY, > Monday night at Eastport, ME, > Tuesday night at Sky Manor, NJ, > Wednesday night at Ashe County, NC, > Visit TNK on Thursday and spend the night at Shelbyville, TN, > Get back home on Friday. > > It's an ambitious plan but I doubt if I can do it without a day or two of > weather delays. > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra, N49KK, Jabiru 2200, 333 hours > http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:35:41 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: MV Flight Photos and Captions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Lookin' awful good, John. You made a heck of a trip out of it. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Kolb-List: MV Flight Photos and Captions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > Hi: > > Captions are complete. Download and print. Then > you can use the captions to view the pics which > are numbered from 01 to 83. > > http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Monument%20Valley%202003/MV%20Photo%20Captions/ > > Next, open the pic file and hope you enjoy my > flight as much as I did: > > http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Monument%20Valley%202003/Monument%20Valley%20Fl t%20Photos/ > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 08:38:22 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: MV Flight Photos and Captions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> How did you happen to get to a Chevron station at Lone Pine ?? I bet THAT drew some stares. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Kolb-List: MV Flight Photos and Captions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > Hi: > > Captions are complete. Download and print. Then > you can use the captions to view the pics which > are numbered from 01 to 83. > > http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Monument%20Valley%202003/MV%20Photo%20Captions/ > > Next, open the pic file and hope you enjoy my > flight as much as I did: > > http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Monument%20Valley%202003/Monument%20Valley%20Fl t%20Photos/ > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 09:16:03 PM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: MV Flight Photos and Captions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > How did you happen to get to a Chevron station at Lone Pine ?? I bet THAT > drew some stares. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry/All: That ain't the Chevron station for cars. That's the Chevron station for airplanes. :-) Automated fuel and the FBO in the background. I like Lone Pine, CA. Neat little airport with attached RV Park. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:58:24 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: MV Flight Photos and Captions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Also a great place for rockhounding, and general crawling around the hills exploring, and stuff. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV Flight Photos and Captions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > > How did you happen to get to a Chevron station at Lone Pine ?? I bet THAT > > drew some stares. Lar. Do not Archive. > > Larry/All: > > That ain't the Chevron station for cars. That's > the Chevron station for airplanes. :-) > > Automated fuel and the FBO in the background. > > I like Lone Pine, CA. Neat little airport with > attached RV Park. > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >




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