---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/21/03: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:26 AM - Firestar Serial Number (Swampist@aol.com) 2. 11:15 AM - Re: Firestar Serial Number (Bob Bean) 3. 11:38 AM - Re: Firestar Serial Number (Robert Dorsey) 4. 12:38 PM - eBay Motors item 2419838624 (Ends Jun-23-03 12:29:18 PDT ) - Continental (Bob Bean) 5. 12:46 PM - Re:MKIII Pitch Stability (Rick & Martha Neilsen) 6. 12:49 PM - Goofy tach (Richard Pike) 7. 01:10 PM - Re: Firestar Serial Number (John J. Peters) 8. 02:51 PM - Re: Goofy tach (Jim) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:20 AM PST US From: Swampist@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Serial Number --> Kolb-List message posted by: Swampist@aol.com Just purchased Firestar need airframe serial number. Was told it was on engine mount tube but no luck . Is this number stamped on tube or a placard attached to this area ? Where exactly ? top,bottom right,left, front of engine etc. Was told it is 1989 but not positive. Assistance is much appreciated. Randy ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:27 AM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Serial Number --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean I was told by Dennis Souder that there is no actual serial no. affixed to the plane. In my case (a MkIII) there is a number stamped on the engine mount area, but that was just a cage identity. That number is currently being used by the plane that had replaced my slightly bent cage with a new one. What it comes down to, unless you have a plane that has been previously registered, just make one up. Since it is a homebuilt you are the one who decides what the number is. Only one caveat, go to the FAA registration page to check if that one is being curently used by another Kolb. No doubt it is by some other make but that doesn't make any diff. -BB, bolted on the wings today with the help of my good brother, during a persistent drizzle on the first ? day of summer???? Swampist@aol.com wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Swampist@aol.com > >Just purchased Firestar need airframe serial number. Was told it was on >engine mount tube but no luck . Is this number stamped on tube or a placard >attached to this area ? Where exactly ? top,bottom right,left, front of engine etc. >Was told it is 1989 but not positive. Assistance is much appreciated. >Randy > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:47 AM PST US From: Robert Dorsey Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Serial Number --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Dorsey When I completed the build on my FF, I contacted Esther Kolb and she sent me a memo with my assigned SN. Maybe TNK has these records? At 12:25 PM 6/21/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Swampist@aol.com > >Just purchased Firestar need airframe serial number. Was told it was on >engine mount tube but no luck . Is this number stamped on tube or a placard >attached to this area ? Where exactly ? top,bottom right,left, front of engine etc. >Was told it is 1989 but not positive. Assistance is much appreciated. >Randy > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:11 PM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Kolb-List: eBay Motors item 2419838624 (Ends Jun-23-03 12:29:18 PDT ) - Continental C-85-12 aircraft engine --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&item=2419838624 Here's a direct drive 4 stroke that will perform on your MkIII -BB, do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:10 PM PST US From: Rick & Martha Neilsen Subject: Kolb-List: RE:MKIII Pitch Stability --> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick & Martha Neilsen Thanks John See below I had a pitch stability issue with my MKIII nothing hard to control but when you add bumps it became more work. I took John Hauck's suggestion and lowered the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer .5 inch lower than factory specifications. This isn't a complete fix but to use John's analogy it is defiantly a bigger ball. Another plus is that this gives my airplane more pitch up authority. This is good because at higher passenger loading and low air speed I found on take off(high power) that I would get close to the limit of up elevator. At some point I may experiment with an even lower angle but for now this is much better. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIII > It seems that you were one that had lowered the leading edge of your > horizontal stabilizer. Did this improve pitch stability on your airplane? > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW powered MKIII Rick: Yes, Jim and I experimented with the adjustable leading edge, horz stab, from the get go. Mine is adjustable from about an inch lower than what the plans call for (even with the top of the boom tube), in three equal increments of about 1/2 inch each. I have flown in all three positions, but find that the center position is the only semi-stable position. All the way up or all the way down and the airplane acts like it is trying to balance on a ball. It is continually falling off the back or front. Really annoying to try and fly like that. The purpose of developing the adjustable mounts was to be able to compensate for different passenger/pilot loads, and to experiment with how the aircraft would react to the different positions. I leave the horz stab in the middle position all the time now. Strange, that my MK III would not want to settle down except in the middle position. john h ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:33 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Goofy tach --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike When I changed from a 532 to a 582 on my MKIII, I kept the same tach, it is the one that is normally used for a late style 582. It became erratic, so I sent it to Westach, they sent it back, said it was OK, the problem is in my system. Here are the symptoms: at idle, it reads 2200, which is OK. At full throttle, tied down, turning 6200, (determined by electric eye tach) it reads 7000-7500 erratic. Flip on the landing lights, and it drops down to 6000-6500. Now turn the landing lights off, and it might drop to 5800-6200, or it might go back to 7500. Took off from a local fly-in today, tach read 7500, throttled back to cruise (guesstimate of 5400-5600?) tach read 7000, flipping the landing lights on made the tach drop to 5000. Flipping the landing lights off and on gave me a variety of readings, some of them maybe close, others obviously bogus. There is obviously some relationship between electrical load and tach readings but electronically I am a klutz & need help. The battery is at full charge and spins the starter well, the voltmeter reads a consistent 13.8 to 14 volts at cruise. I am using a Key West regulator, and have noticed a lot of negative comments on the list about them lately. Anybody have any ideas what is happening and what I might do to make things behave? Thanks Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:10:13 PM PST US From: "John J. Peters" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Serial Number --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John J. Peters" On my FS II , the # is stamped on the rear tube end cap of the engine mount tube . do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Serial Number > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Swampist@aol.com > > Just purchased Firestar need airframe serial number. Was told it was on > engine mount tube but no luck . Is this number stamped on tube or a placard > attached to this area ? Where exactly ? top,bottom right,left, front of engine etc. > Was told it is 1989 but not positive. Assistance is much appreciated. > Randy > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:58 PM PST US From: "Jim" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Goofy tach --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim" Richard, I had a similar problem when I went from a 503 to a 532. Tried different tachs, sent the new one back to Westach who said it was ok. It was driving me crazy. Finally spoke to a tech at Westach who solved the problem for me. It was (for me) simply a matter of changing which wires I had hooked up to the tach from the engine. I do not remember now which wires I changed, but perhaps they could help you with your problem. Jim Mark III Charlotte, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Kolb-List: Goofy tach > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > When I changed from a 532 to a 582 on my MKIII, I kept the same tach, it is > the one that is normally used for a late style 582. It became erratic, so I > sent it to Westach, they sent it back, said it was OK, the problem is in my > system. > > Here are the symptoms: at idle, it reads 2200, which is OK. At full > throttle, tied down, turning 6200, (determined by electric eye tach) it > reads 7000-7500 erratic. Flip on the landing lights, and it drops down to > 6000-6500. Now turn the landing lights off, and it might drop to 5800-6200, > or it might go back to 7500. > > Took off from a local fly-in today, tach read 7500, throttled back to > cruise (guesstimate of 5400-5600?) tach read 7000, flipping the landing > lights on made the tach drop to 5000. Flipping the landing lights off and > on gave me a variety of readings, some of them maybe close, others > obviously bogus. > > There is obviously some relationship between electrical load and tach > readings but electronically I am a klutz & need help. The battery is at > full charge and spins the starter well, the voltmeter reads a consistent > 13.8 to 14 volts at cruise. > > I am using a Key West regulator, and have noticed a lot of negative > comments on the list about them lately. Anybody have any ideas what is > happening and what I might do to make things behave? > > Thanks > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > >