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1. 03:50 AM - Re: springs (Gene Ledbetter)
2. 04:45 AM - Flights (John Hauck)
3. 05:39 AM - Re: FireFly Finished (John Cooley)
4. 05:45 AM - Re: Mark III "Miss B" commits aviation (John Cooley)
5. 06:07 AM - Re: springs (Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious)
6. 06:23 AM - Re: Raising horizontal stab on Mark III (Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious)
7. 06:25 AM - Re: springs (John Hauck)
8. 08:46 AM - Wiring (Mike Pierzina)
9. 09:41 AM - Re: springs (Jimmy)
10. 10:19 AM - Re: springs (George Thompson)
11. 04:36 PM - Wiring (Mike Pierzina)
12. 05:12 PM - Rentals (Chuck Davis - Comcast)
13. 05:14 PM - Re: FireFly Finished (Don Gherardini)
14. 05:17 PM - Re: springs (Don Gherardini)
15. 05:37 PM - Re: FireFly Finished (Don Gherardini)
16. 06:07 PM - Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 06/19/03 (Richard Harris)
17. 07:24 PM - Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 06/19/03 (Christopher J Armstrong)
18. 08:44 PM - Re: Ivo prop (DAquaNut@aol.com)
19. 08:58 PM - Re: Swiderski Website (Richard Swiderski)
20. 09:14 PM - Re: Ivo prop (Don Gherardini)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Gene Ledbetter <gdledbetter1@fuse.net>
On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 23:35 America/New_York, possums wrote:
> They've got something to take the place of those rusty old muffler
> springs
> now - if you can afford it.
> Cost about $25.00 from CPS and is stainless steel and you don't have to
> take your muffler off to put it on.
> Only problem so far is that the Stainless Steel tends to cut into the
> bolts
> a little - after several months.
> Have ordered new stainless steel bolts to replace the AN ones (the ones
> with the springs) that came with the kit.
> CPS part # 30385 - you can see one at :
I would echo Possums recommendation since I installed the same spring
replacements over a year ago. I have also had the same experience with
the bolts wearing. In addition, I needed to grind the top edge off one
set because they rubbed the muffler.
Took my longest crosscountry this week. Flew 170 miles from
Waynesville to London and spent the night with Brian and Helen. They
have moved into their new facility which will be very nice when
finished. Got lucky on the flights since it was downhill both ways.
Had a 10 mph tailwind going and a 5 mph tailwind on return. Flew down
nonstop and used 8.5 gallons of fuel. Averaged 65 mph groundspeed for
entire trip. Flew at indicated 65mph airspeed at 5900 rpm. Stopped at
a very friendly ultralight field at Cynthiana, KY on my way home and
added a little 100LL.
Overall, a great trip.
Gene Ledbetter
Cincinnati
Firefly 210 hrs
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Took my longest crosscountry this week. Flew 170 miles from
> Waynesville to London
> Gene Ledbetter
Gene/All:
Super!
Next year you'll be flying out to Monument Valley
or up to Whitefish, Montana, or where ever we end
up meeting for the Annual Kolb
Informal/Unorganized Flyin in.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Finished |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Don,
Great looking paint job! Is the top coat polytone? Did you count the hours
you spent on painting?
"do not archive"
Later,
John Cooley
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Well Kolbers...thanks to all of you..and my wifes patience...this little
bird is done today..other than a dab a safety wire left to do here and
there, and a couple of instruments that should be here next week.
I pushed her outside in the sun for the first time today...just 1 week short
of 9 months since I brought it home from Atlanta...by way of New London and
the Kolb Fly-in. If all Goes well.and the weather holds..maiden flight
should be july 4th weekend...and considering the paint-job...this sure seems
appropriate!
Updated pics on page 11 just taken today....check her out and tell me what
you guys think!
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III "Miss B" commits aviation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Congrats Bob. Keep us posted on working out the trim issues.
"do not archive"
Later,
John Cooley
-------Original Message-------
Folks,
At 7:30 pm last evening "Miss B" was airbourne for the first time. I had
already done some fast taxing to feel her out and see how well she tracked
down the runway both in the 3 point position and with the tail up. Last
night I did one fast taxi (4,400' paved runway) then pulled her off in
ground effect (3') then came back and slowly increased my altitude 20' then
50'. No bad habits, no heavy wing. I was definitely near the rear CG limit
as I had to keep a lot of forward pressure on the stick. I weigh about
195lbs so I may want to move a little weight around. I also need to add some
PADDING to those sling seats! Yeouch! I can't reach the panel in my current
setup. The 5th crow hop I took her all the way around the pattern, then came
back and landed and decided to call it quits while I was ahead.
Being as light as she is (517lbs empty) the slight cross wind (3mph) was
noticeable much to my surprise. No problem handling it but I really didn't
expect to notice it.
I need to thank a few folks. Richard Pike, John H. and Jim Gerkin for their
generous suggestions about resetting my right wing (it flew perfectly!) and
Denny Rowe for his kind assistance with building the section over the fuel
tanks. This list is priceless!
Any thoughts about the need for such forward pressure on the stick? It would
be most uncomfortable on a cross country solo.
Absolutely giddy!
Bob,
<EM>Tenacity Farm </EM>
Campbellsburg, Kentucky
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
John, what goop do you put on the springs? I guess it can handle the temps. What
keeps it from seperating from the spring and going through the prop?
Bob
do not archive
From: John Hauck <JHAUCK@ELMORE.RR.COM>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: springs
-- Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <JHAUCK@ELMORE.RR.COM>
After landing Sat. I noticed a dink in the leading edge of one blade of my
prop ( Warp Drive ) , then a spring missing from the header pipe. There has
got to be a better way...
Richard Harris
Richard/All:
In almost 500 hours on the 912S and Titan exhaust
system, I have lost one exhaust spring and dinged
the leading edge of one blade. Funny, a flight or
two prior to the spring failing, I had made a
mental note that the springs were about ready to
be replaced. However, I never got around to
replacing them until after sending one through the
prop.
They last a long time if gooped up with silicone
seal pushed down into the spring. If properly
safetied, they will most likely stay on the pipe
rather than go through the prop. I got lazy again
and did not safety.
Think I'll scrounge up four springs and replace
the old ones before they decide to break.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Raising horizontal stab on Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
How did you raise it? Did you drill out the rivets and drill new holes?
Bob, Kathleen, and Kory Brocious
<EM>Tenacity Farm </EM>
Campbellsburg, Kentucky
From: ZepRep251@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Raising horizontal stab on Mark III
-- Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
A piper cub has the leading edge of the horizontal mounted on a jack screw
with about 3 in. of travel. The leading edge of my horizontal has been 1 in. up
since the first test flight in 1999, 230 hrs ago.G.Aman FS2
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> John, what goop do you put on the springs?
> Bob
Bob/All:
I use what ever silicone seal is handy. It all
works.
I was told the primary purpose of the silicone
seal was to dampen vibration. Vibration is the
critter that gets to the springs and causes them
to break, along with rust............
High temps from the stainless steel pipes does not
seem to effect the silicone seal which is standing
off the pipe about 1/4 to 1/2 inch.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
No power at work this morning so they sent us home...Yippeeeeeee!
I've been wiring my GPL starter , EIS , and one of those dual mag ignitions.
As long as I take "baby steps" it's not TOO overwhelming....
Anyway the instructions don't say which spark plugs to put the CHT sensors on....
I'm gonna look thru some catalogs... maybe CPS will have something....
Where do some of you guys have them on a 503 ?
My guess would be to keep them close to the center of the head.
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
FSII-final assembly
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and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jimmy <jhankin@planters.net>
Have a Firefly with the 447 engine.
The springs are put on and safety wire is put inside and around the length
of the spring, red silicone hi-temp is squeezed inside the spring and around
the ends. With the safety around the spring the only part that can come
loose is the hooks on the ends. The silicone will hopefully hold them if
they break loose. I always check the springs on my pre-flight.
Jimmy Hankinson
912-863-7384
Rocky Ford, Ga. 30455
jhankin@planters.net
Kolb Firefly/447/240hrs
Local field, Pegasus/2000/Grass
Airport JYL/Sylvania, Ga.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
I always give them a good helping of silicone. Haven't lost one yet. Also
safety a wire through and around each one.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: springs
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious"
<bbrocious@hotmail.com>
>
>
> John, what goop do you put on the springs? I guess it can handle the
temps. What keeps it from seperating from the spring and going through the
prop?
> Bob
> do not archive
>
>
> From: John Hauck <JHAUCK@ELMORE.RR.COM>
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: springs
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:41:23 -0500
>
> -- Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <JHAUCK@ELMORE.RR.COM>
>
>
> After landing Sat. I noticed a dink in the leading edge of one blade of
my
> prop ( Warp Drive ) , then a spring missing from the header pipe. There
has
> got to be a better way...
>
> Richard Harris
>
> Richard/All:
>
> In almost 500 hours on the 912S and Titan exhaust
> system, I have lost one exhaust spring and dinged
> the leading edge of one blade. Funny, a flight or
> two prior to the spring failing, I had made a
> mental note that the springs were about ready to
> be replaced. However, I never got around to
> replacing them until after sending one through the
> prop.
>
> They last a long time if gooped up with silicone
> seal pushed down into the spring. If properly
> safetied, they will most likely stay on the pipe
> rather than go through the prop. I got lazy again
> and did not safety.
>
> Think I'll scrounge up four springs and replace
> the old ones before they decide to break.
>
> john h
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
Scratch that last question about where to put the CHT probes....While
I was looking for which spark plugs to put them under, I found in a L.E.A.F.
catalog they talked about putting them under a spark plug OR a cylinder
head nut......I put them under the cylinder head nuts so I won't have to deal
with them every time I change plugs.....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in
Mn , Hot , Humid , Rainy
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and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Chuck Davis - Comcast <davis207@comcast.net>
Next month we are travelling from NJ to spend the annual week on the beach
with the in-laws near Gulf Shores, AL. Everytime I fly in to Mobile or
Pensacola I thick how beautiful it is from the air and how great it would be
to do some ultra-light flying. (I grew up there and seeing them fly around
was what got me interested in the first place, back when Weedhoppers were
the new hot model.)
Now, having just received my certification from USUA, does any one know a
place near Gulf Shores that rents ultra-lights? I can't bring the FireFly
down, so I'd even settle for a non-Kolb. God knows if I could get the 'Fly
down, the in-laws'd never see me.
On a slightly different tack, Summer finally arrived in NJ Monday. I saw it
coming and took yesterday off work. After dealing with family issues, I got
in 2.25 hours of cross country in the afternoon. She cruises at 60mph while
turning 5000. Jack and other Firefliers, how do those number compare?
And finally, this Saturday the Jersey Shore Ultralight club is having their
annual fly-in picnic at Pemberton, NJ.
http://www.buzzardsrow.com/JerseyShore/ . (I am not a member...just putting
in a plug and hoping to see all Kolber's in the Sentral / South Jersey
area.)
Chuck Davis
FF 028
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Finished |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Thanks BT....but I already got a wife.....sure dont need another...let alone
a couple more!...
Might consider a good birddog an some boot tho!
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
I drilled the flanges behind each spring and safey wired them ....both ends
and thru the middle..similiar to how you would wire a turnbuckle
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Finished |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Thanks John....Yes..the whole paint job is stitts process....all the color
is Polytone....I painted with extra retarder..extrathinner and when the
surface temps were between 60 and 65degrees according to my infrared raytek
thermometer. got a fair gloss I think for polytone. Not near as shiny as car
paint like Kolbs tho....but not bad at all.
I did not count the hours....but I did have 70 bucks worth of that high
priced green masking tape and plastic pinstriping tape in it. IT DID take
a long time....I know I spent 5 hours laying out and masking one side of the
horozontal stabs and elevators and.then shooting the stripes...no
blue....only to have to rub it all off an start over due to red bleeding
under edges of regular maskin tape...that was a very frustrating day!
all in all I worked awful hard and many long hours on that paint job for 7
weeks....maybe 4 days...sometime 5 days a week....the weekends were usually
10 to 12 hours a day.
the paint on the boom and other metal is epoxy appliance white from none
other than rust-oleum! Its WONDERFUL stuff.
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: Out of Office AutoReply: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 06/19/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
Who the HELL is this guy, and why do I ( or anyone else on this list )care
if he is out of his office. And he don't even do not archive.
This is the Kolb list Mark....
Richard Harris
MK3 N912RH
Lewisville, Arkansas
DO NOT ARCHIVE
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Souza, Mark W" <mark.w.souza@boeing.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Out of Office AutoReply: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs -
06/19/03
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Souza, Mark W" <mark.w.souza@boeing.com>
>
> I away on business until Thursday 6/26/03. Any issues that can't wait that
long should be addressed to my back-up Terry Wagstaff 266-6666. I will
monitor my e-mail and will address any problems that can be handled by mail
or phone call.
>
>
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| Subject: | Out of Office AutoReply: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 06/19/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher J Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Harris
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Out of Office AutoReply: Kolb-List Digest: 26
Msgs - 06/19/03
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris"
<rharris@magnolia-net.com>
Who the HELL is this guy, and why do I ( or anyone else on this list
)care
if he is out of his office. And he don't even do not archive.
This is the Kolb list Mark....
Richard Harris
MK3 N912RH
Lewisville, Arkansas
DO NOT ARCHIVE
That is an automatic response that people put on there business e-mails.
He didn't plan for it to go to the kolb list. It just did.
DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT
ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group,
I just got my Ivo prop via UPS. Seems everything is there Except for 6
nuts to go on the 6 long bolts. I DO need nuts right? There No instructions.
Ed Diebel
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| Subject: | Re: Swiderski Website |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Swiderski <swiderski@rocketjet.net>
Kolbers
I'm on a week vacation & I am holed up in a cabin here in
NC. I've finially had some time to work on my website. There's a lot
of details and pics on the systems and mods of the 3 cyl, 4-stroke, fuel
injected, turbo charged Suzuki engine that's getting closer to flying my
SlingShot. If you're interested, you can see it at
http://www.geocities.com/ib2polish/ .
I'll be working on it for a couple more days so check back.
Richard Swiderski, Summerfield FL
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
no nuts Ed...female threads in the re-drive.....
do not archive
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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