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Sat 06/28/03


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 07:10 AM - Re: Nashville, TN kolbers (flykolb@carolina.rr.com)
     2. 07:12 AM - Re: Recent Kolbra Trip (Gene Ledbetter)
     3. 10:41 AM - Re: Recent Kolbra Trip (John Williamson)
     4. 11:08 AM - Flight Manual for Kolb Mk III (John Raeburn)
     5. 12:56 PM - Re: Flight Manual for Kolb Mk III (Richard Harris)
     6. 01:29 PM - Re: springs (SGreenpg@aol.com)
     7. 01:50 PM - [ Richard Pike ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
     8. 05:39 PM - Recent Kolbra Trip (John Williamson)
     9. 08:16 PM - Re: Re: Suzuki G-10 Auto Conversion (Richard Swiderski)
    10. 09:30 PM - Re: Ignition switch (DAquaNut@aol.com)
    11. 10:27 PM - While you were sleeping.... (Jon Croke)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:10:05 AM PST US
    From: flykolb@carolina.rr.com
    Subject: Nashville, TN kolbers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: flykolb@carolina.rr.com Martin, I'm here in Nashville but have no idea how to find these airports you mentioned. I will be out driving around the area and hope to get up to the Clarkesville area today. Please call me on my cell phone at 704-661-7899. Jim > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Martin Trusty" <martintr@earthlink.net> > > Jim there are several fields located here in Clarksville,TN. Hopkinsville, > Outlaw Field and a special Phillips Morris Field with cook outs the 29th of > June. Come on over, m > > Only when it's too late will you weep and Howl ! > <>--< > > > _- ============================================================ ========== Contributions other > _- ============================================================ ========== messages. members. > _- ============================================================ ========== List.htm list list > _- ============================================================ ========== > > > >


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    Time: 07:12:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Recent Kolbra Trip
    From: Gene Ledbetter <gdledbetter1@fuse.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gene Ledbetter <gdledbetter1@fuse.net> On Thursday, Jun 26, 2003, at 23:24 America/New_York, John Williamson wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > <kolbrapilot@attbi.com> > > Good evening Gang, > > I think I have finally caught up on the email, cleaned the Kolbra and > worked on a webpage update. > > Here is how my recent trip went: > http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot4/KEPM.htm > John I keep trying to view your pictures but continue to get a Page URL Not Found message from your ATT Broadband host. Gene


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    Time: 10:41:38 AM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
    Subject: Re: Recent Kolbra Trip
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com> Hi Gene, I have to assume you are using Netscape. When running Netscape to view my website photos, you have to change the " \ " to a " / " just before the photo file name. When you use Microsoft Internet Explorer browser, it loads right up. For some reason Netscape changes my last / to a \ . I do this for fun so I don't know why it happens. Here is a sample photo: http://home.attbi.com/~KolbraPilot4/KEPM/100_0739.JPG John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, N49KK, Jabiru 2200, 387 hours http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot


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    Time: 11:08:50 AM PST US
    From: John Raeburn <raeburn@snowhill.com>
    Subject: Flight Manual for Kolb Mk III
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Raeburn <raeburn@snowhill.com> I am in the process of changing the classification of my aircraft from "Ultralight" to "Experimental". I have applied for and received the "N" number. I'm getting ready to apply for the Airworthiness certificate. FAR 91.9 states that I need a "FLIGHT MANUAL". Does anyone have a Flight manual that I can use as a reference so that I can make one up for my aircraft!


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    Time: 12:56:57 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight Manual for Kolb Mk III
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com> John, I just reviewed FAR 21.191 and didn't see anything about a flight manual for experimental aircraft in the airworthiness form. Anyway I don't have one, never seen one, and the inspector never said anything about one, but if you find one, I would like a copy. Maybe it will help me fly better. c-ya Richard Harris MK3 N912RH Lewisville, Arkansas DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Raeburn <raeburn@snowhill.com> > > I am in the process of changing the classification of my aircraft from > "Ultralight" to "Experimental". I have applied for and received the "N" > number. I'm getting ready to apply for the Airworthiness certificate. > FAR 91.9 states that I need a "FLIGHT MANUAL". > > Does anyone have a Flight manual that I can use as a reference so that I can > make one up for my aircraft! > >


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    Time: 01:29:52 PM PST US
    From: SGreenpg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: springs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com In a message dated 6/24/03 9:27:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rharris@magnolia-net.com writes: > After landing Sat. I noticed a dink in the leading edge of one blade of my > prop ( Warp Drive ) , then a spring missing from the header pipe. There has > got to be a better way... > > > Richard Harris > Richard, I have been using 5/8" ID high temp silicone tubing over my springs to dampen them for about 170 hours now. I still safety wire them but I haven't had one to break yet. The tubing is available through model airplane suppliers, it is used to couple a tuned pipe on an RC plane. Steven G.


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    Time: 01:50:39 PM PST US
    Subject: [ Richard Pike ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Subject: Kolb exhaust spring mods http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/rwpike@charter.net.06.28.2003/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 05:39:51 PM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com>
    Subject: Recent Kolbra Trip
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@attbi.com> My Kolb friends using Netscape: I have mad the proper changes to the links to all the photos on my website so all the Netscape users should be able to see the pictures now. If anyone has any problems with links, I would sure like to here about it. http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot/Kolbra_Flight_Adventures.htm John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, N49KK, Jabiru 2200, 387 hours http://home.attbi.com/~kolbrapilot do not archive


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    Time: 08:16:59 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@rocketjet.net>
    Subject: Re: Suzuki G-10 Auto Conversion
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@rocketjet.net> Kolbers, I've been re-doing my website, http://www.geocities.com/ib2polish , & thought a portion of its text would be of interest to those who might be thinking of "going out of the box" as far as using alternative engines is concerned. If you want to see the torque curve, go to MY KOLB; then to ENGINE; then to ABOUT ENGINE. It over lays the Suzuki's curve with some Rotax curves. below is an excerpt. Richard Swiderski SlingShot/ almost TuboSuzuki / Florida ENGINE DATA Naturally Aspirated: This engine is ideally suited for aircraft use. Its most outstanding attribute is its torqu curve. It is virtually flat throughout its operating range. The Suzuki's 4-stroke, 3 cylinder, one-liter engine is called their model G-10. Naturally Aspirated (NA), the G-10 at 3500rpm has 60ft-lb & at 5800rpm it 55 ft-lb. The question everyone is asking is, "Can it replace my Rotax 582 two-stroke?" Since HP = Torque X RPM / 5252, we can compare the useful power of both engines very nicely. So as not to be comparing apples to oranges, we'll use % of maximum operating rpm. At 100% throttle: The Rotax 582 has 6400rpm/52.5ft-lb/64hp; & the NA G-10 has 5800rpm/55ft-lb/61hp. At 75%: The 582 has 4800rpm/45ft-lb/41hp; & the NA G-10 has 4350rpm/60ft-lb/50hp. At 60%: The 582 has 3840rpm/38ft-lb/28hp; & the NA G-10 has 3480rpm/62ft-lb/41hp. The bottom line is: The G-10 has a 32% more power @ 60% throttle; 18% more power @ 75% throttle; and 5% less power @ 100% throttle. So att full throttle, the 582 will slightly outclimb the G-10 but at cruise, the 582 is left in the wake! The above formula works amazingly well. If you take my computations & compare them to the factory you will see they match perfectly. At 2gph in cruise, The G-10 has less than 1/2 the fuel consumption of the 582. On a 4 hr trip that amounts to at least 48 lbs of fuel, which more than compensates for the slight increase in engine weight. As per issue 37 of CONTACT! magazine, Steve Parkman had a NA G-10 in a Jenny replica. Because of the prop diameter his engine was limited to 4800rpm. He dyno'ed the motor in 3 configurations & got 51 hp @ 4800 with a carburator and 53 hp @ 4800 with Throttle Body injection. He got 64 hp with port injection, but did not specify @ what rpm (probably at 5800). TurboCharged: The G-10 Turbo is were things really get exciting! I have not found any published performance curves for the turbo version. All manuals agree that it has a peak torque of 107 ft-lb at 3500rpm. For max HP I've seen: 70hp; 80hp; & "Not Available". The HP ratings don't jive. As we seen above, torque & HP are mathematically interchangable. So we know for sure, that at 3500rpm & 107ft-lb of torque, it is producing 71hp. From another approach, we know the NA port injected version gets at least 64hp at 5800rpm & the turbo G-10 has 8.7 lbs boost @ 5800rpm which is 59% above one atmosphere, and 1.59 X 64 = 102hp. The conversion aftermarket rates this engine from100-115hp. If we use the rule of thumb that an engine's peak torque is close to its max HP, then it would make about 107hp. If we extraplolate off the NA G-10 torque curve we get the following for the Turbo G-10: 60% = 5800rpm/95ft-lb/105hp; 75% = 4350rpm/104ft-lb/86hp; 100% 5800rpm/95ft-lb/105hp. If we compare this to the $12,500 912S we get: 60% 3480rpm/84ft-lb/59hp; 75% = 4350rpm/91ft-lb/75hp; and 100% 5800rpm/89.2ft-lb/99hp. Translation: This obscure little engine outperforms the premier, "100hp" Rotax 912S by 17% @ 60% throttle; 13% @ 75% throttle; and 6% @ 100% throttle. Obviously, the standard "80hp" 912 is not even in the same league. This Turbo G-10 is a torky little beast! But that's not all... The Turbo G-10 can do this at a comparable weight (170 lb vs the true all up weight of 168 lb for the 912); it has better fuel economy; can cruise at a lower/more comfortable rpm; and best of all, you can go to your local AutoZone and rebuild it for $500. You can not bore a 912 jug. Guess how much money one of those four Rotax jugs cost? Hint: More than a G-10 rebuild. What about reliability? How does it compare? Well its a no brainer (In my opinion) compared to the two-strokes. There are hundreds of G10's flying, many with over 300 hours. I know personally of one with over 500 hrs used as a trainer. The owner loves it & said all he does is check the oil & turn the key. If you compare the Turbo G-10 to the 912S, well there are maybe ten of the Suzuki's flying, and many hundreds of the 912S's. The 912's certainly have a good record and a long history. However, if the "it takes a beating & keeps on ticking" track record of the hundreds of thousands of G-10's in abused auto's (that routinely get 150,000 miles, and whose turnpike speeds are comparable to aircraft rpms) are any indication, then an 800-1000 hour TBO is quite reasonable. 500 hours is 5-10 years of flying for most of us, and if just changing the oil and plugs during that time is all that's needed, then for the cheap price of an overhaul, even a 500 hr TBO would be acceptable.


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    Time: 09:30:04 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Ignition switch
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com Group, Let me try one more time....... Can anyone tell me which wires I need to hook my ignition OR kill switch up to? cant seem to find the information in the Kolb building manual. Thanks, Ed ( in Houston)


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    Time: 10:27:04 PM PST US
    From: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
    Subject: While you were sleeping....
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com> One night while you were sleeping, one of the world's best light aircraft engines mysteriously got better! "TBO for the 912 and 912S series engines was increased from 1200 to 1500 hours" (Reprinted without permission from Experimenter Magazine, July 2003 Page 5) How does this happen, all by itself? Maybe the only thing they could find to improve was the TBO! ? Jon near Green Bay FSII www.joncroke.com




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