---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/05/03: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:09 AM - Firestar I/II documentation (johnjung@compusenior.com) 2. 05:29 AM - Re: Fuel Vent (Airgriff2@aol.com) 3. 05:43 AM - What noise is this? (Airgriff2@aol.com) 4. 07:31 AM - Re: MKIII upgrades (Chris Sudlow) 5. 08:23 AM - trailer (ronnie wehba) 6. 09:28 AM - Re: old Firestar Weight & Balance (Ben Ransom) 7. 12:28 PM - [ Gary Zilik ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 8. 02:19 PM - Vacation (Larry Bourne) 9. 04:53 PM - Re: trailer (SR3SA2L1@aol.com) 10. 06:55 PM - Re: FS cage wanted (SR3SA2L1@aol.com) 11. 08:51 PM - Re: Vacation (woody) 12. 08:56 PM - N616DR FLIES! () 13. 09:32 PM - Re: N616DR FLIES! (Larry Bourne) 14. 09:35 PM - Re: Vacation (Larry Bourne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:13 AM PST US From: "johnjung@compusenior.com" Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar I/II documentation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "johnjung@compusenior.com" Group, If anyone needs documentation for Firestar I/II, I have an extra set. Contact me off list if interested: johnjung@compusenior.com John ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:17 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Vent --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com > > >> One question to all, where is the best place to terminate >> a fuel tank >> vent line? Bottom of cage at boom tube? > My Fuel tank and radiator (full sise rad in front of eng.) both vent out of the small gap where the rear of the cage meets the boom tube. Has worked well for 7 yrs now. Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:28 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: What noise is this? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com My MK3 runs great with the 618 but in the last few flights it seems to have developed a buzzing or whining sound at full throttle. As I level off and throttle back, as soon as I come below 5900 rpm it dissapears. Probably prop noise but I hav'nt changed anything and it never made this sound in 7 yrs? We all know how as pilots that we are very sensitive to any change in sounds. Thanks for any feed back. Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:15 AM PST US From: "Chris Sudlow" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MKIII upgrades --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Sudlow" That sounds like a really good set of numbers. Way to go. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Kolb-List: MKIII upgrades > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > Finally got my tach working right and was able to go out last evening and > this morning and get some hard data on the mods I made this spring. > Guys, I'm here to tell you that the little things add up and the payoff is > great. > > At 4500rpm it cruises 55mph > 5000rpm=65mph > 5500rpm=75mph > 6000rpm=85mph > 6400rpm=93mph > > Updated the web page with new pictures. > > http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:38 AM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Kolb-List: trailer DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12, HTML_60_70, HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED, HTML_FONT_FACE_ODD) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" anyone have a drawing for a simple trailer for a ultrastar? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:57 AM PST US From: Ben Ransom Subject: Re: Kolb-List: old Firestar Weight & Balance --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom I have scanned in the weight and balance instructions and figures from the Firestar KX/KXP manual. It's on my web site in the interest of safety for those of you without the original documentation. I do not know if this is the same wt and bal as for the original Firestar. http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~ransom/BensAlbum/build/a3weight.html -Ben Ransom 91 Firestar KXP --- T Riddle <84fs377@buffalo.com> wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "T Riddle" <84fs377@buffalo.com> > > I am new to the Kolb list and just acquired an old ('84) > Firestar(377) with absolutely no documentation. I have a copy of the > 1985 Sport Aviation article where this aircraft was introduced to Sun > N Fun and that is all I know about the airplane...except that it is > great fun to fly. I am interested in Wt & Bal information, including > how to level when weighing, where is the datum located, what is the > acceptable CG range, plus V speeds, especially Vne and anything else > that is pertinent to getting to know this bird better. > > Thanks in advance for your help, guys. > > TR > 84fs377 > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > -- > http://www.Buffalo.com , WNY's #1 Website > > > > > > > > ===== http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~ransom __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:55 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: [ Gary Zilik ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Gary Zilik Subject: CH Products Stick Grip http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/zilik@direcpc.com.07.05.2003/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:40 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Kolb-List: Vacation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" We went out this morning to Dungeness, WA, and pulled the crab pots; then had a huge feed of crabs. What Fun ! ! ! That'll be on the next web page. I built a web page on the adventures with Larry Cottrell in Klamath Falls, OR. Here's the address: www.webpictures.homestead.com/klamathfalls.html Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:10 PM PST US From: SR3SA2L1@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: trailer --> Kolb-List message posted by: SR3SA2L1@aol.com Hi All, If you have any plans - I too would appreciate a copy. Thanks! Steve do not archieve ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:30 PM PST US From: SR3SA2L1@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FS cage wanted --> Kolb-List message posted by: SR3SA2L1@aol.com Hi All, WANTED - ANY CONDITION - ALL OR PART: I'm building a toy to encourage "The Kid" to take more interest in aviation and tools. She will build on "A Real Kolb, just like Dads!". 1) I need a Firestar firewall forward cockpit frame (at least that much - the rest of the cage is okay but not necessary). With or without nose cone (with is better, in any condition, all or part). With or without rudder pedals or joystick, etc., but with any part is better. Does not need to be useable or straight - any year, condition or color is fine. Rust is fine, dents are fine, holes are fine, cuts are fine, no fabric is fine, fabric is fine, ugly is fine, no seat is fine. Just about anything is fine as long as it is the front half of the kind used on the early Firestar. It is okay if it is from a crashed plane as long as nobody died in the wreck (yes, I am serious about that one - God told me I already have enough Karma debt to force most industrial nations into bankruptcy and I don't want to push the issue seeing whereas I do have to call upon "Her" for special favors now and then). I need the kind used on the early (late 80s to early 90s) Firestars - or roughly same shape and size cage from any other single seat year or model Kolb that has the forward slanting (triangle shaped) sides. Slingshot and Firefly I think used the same shape and size cockpit sides. Please contact me off list if you know of one. Thanks, Steve Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:06 PM PST US From: woody Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vacation --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody Hey Lar When do you think you will hit the Detroit area? I have some Mk111 time booked for you. Might also have the club plane do its maiden voyage on Sunday. Only 2 years to build that one. I'm slowin down in my old age. do not archive At 02:19 PM 7/5/03 -0700, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > >We went out this morning to Dungeness, WA, and pulled the crab pots; then >had a huge feed of crabs. What Fun ! ! ! That'll be on the next web >page. I built a web page on the adventures with Larry Cottrell in >Klamath Falls, OR. Here's the >address: www.webpictures.homestead.com/klamathfalls.html > >Larry Bourne >Palm Springs, CA >Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB >www.gogittum.com > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:43 PM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: N616DR FLIES! --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kolbers, Today I performed a massive Triple play. First I took my first ride in a Vans aircraft, a beautiful 0320 powered RV-8, the control response was beyond belief and the owner did a few turns at what was probably around 3 Gs, what a trip, also got to see what a 200mph low pass feels like, and experienced the RV grin that is still on my face to this moment. WOW !. Second, I finally completed my BFR in a 152, got about an hour in there. And third but not least, drum roll please, ,,,,,,,,,,,,, at or around 8:30pm tonight I took N616DR up on her maiden flight!!!!!. All went extremely well did four circuits of the field, only could get 5600rpm WOT level flight so I'll have to take a little bite out of the Powerfin. Temps were all great and trim was near perfect, (she needed just a tiny bit of forward pressure). Many thanks to everyone who helped on this list along the way, especially Terry Swartz for his advice on the phone this morning concerning landing characteristics, she landed exactly how he described, flew it to the ground with one notch of flaps, pulled the power and she parked herself right now, no float whatsoever. All and all it seems like a really solid plane and had a familiar feel to it right from the word go, no surprises at all. If weather allows I'll be back at it Monday evening and should have more numbers after that. Sincerely, Denny Rowe Mk-3 N616DR Leechburg PA 2SI 690L-70, 2.65 - 1 reduction, 68 inch F model Powerfin, Gull Doors, tons of fun. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:32:11 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: N616DR FLIES! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" That's the best news in a long time, Denny. Congratulations ! ! ! Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kolb-List: N616DR FLIES! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: > > Kolbers, > Today I performed a massive Triple play. > First I took my first ride in a Vans aircraft, a beautiful 0320 powered RV-8, the control response was beyond belief and the owner did a few turns at what was probably around 3 Gs, what a trip, also got to see what a 200mph low pass feels like, and experienced the RV grin that is still on my face to this moment. WOW !. > Second, I finally completed my BFR in a 152, got about an hour in there. > And third but not least, drum roll please, ,,,,,,,,,,,,, at or around 8:30pm tonight I took N616DR up on her maiden flight!!!!!. All went extremely well did four circuits of the field, only could get 5600rpm WOT level flight so I'll have to take a little bite out of the Powerfin. Temps were all great and trim was near perfect, (she needed just a tiny bit of forward pressure). > Many thanks to everyone who helped on this list along the way, especially Terry Swartz for his advice on the phone this morning concerning landing characteristics, she landed exactly how he described, flew it to the ground with one notch of flaps, pulled the power and she parked herself right now, no float whatsoever. > All and all it seems like a really solid plane and had a familiar feel to it right from the word go, no surprises at all. > If weather allows I'll be back at it Monday evening and should have more numbers after that. > Sincerely, > Denny Rowe > Mk-3 N616DR Leechburg PA 2SI 690L-70, 2.65 - 1 reduction, 68 inch F model Powerfin, Gull Doors, tons of fun. > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:07 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vacation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Should be there right around the 1st week of August, and I'm looking forward to it. Sounds like I've been shanghai-ed to Oshkosh, so should be right after that. What a great trip so far. GoGittin Lar Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vacation > --> Kolb-List message posted by: woody > > Hey Lar > When do you think you will hit the Detroit area? > I have some Mk111 time booked for you. Might also have the club plane > do its maiden voyage on Sunday. Only 2 years to build that one. I'm slowin > down in my old age. > > > do not archive > > At 02:19 PM 7/5/03 -0700, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > > >We went out this morning to Dungeness, WA, and pulled the crab pots; then > >had a huge feed of crabs. What Fun ! ! ! That'll be on the next web > >page. I built a web page on the adventures with Larry Cottrell in > >Klamath Falls, OR. Here's the > >address: www.webpictures.homestead.com/klamathfalls.html > > > >Larry Bourne > >Palm Springs, CA > >Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB > >www.gogittum.com > > > > > >