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1. 03:06 AM - Re: Firestar II For Sale ()
2. 04:54 AM - Re: Prop Washers (GeoR38@aol.com)
3. 06:59 AM - 2000+ HOUR 912... (Jeremy Casey)
4. 07:03 AM - Re: Prop Washers (Bob Bean)
5. 07:43 AM - Congratulations (T. K. Frantz)
6. 08:02 AM - Re: Prop Washers (T. K. Frantz)
7. 08:36 AM - Re: Prop Clearance (DAquaNut@aol.com)
8. 08:45 AM - Re: Prop Washers (DAquaNut@aol.com)
9. 10:38 AM - Kolb newbie (jspc78@yahoo.com)
10. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: Harbour freight tools (Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious)
11. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: Harbour freight tools (jerb)
12. 11:14 AM - Re: Movie ()
13. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: First flights of N232S - 07/07/03 (Ron Hoyt)
14. 12:36 PM - Re: 2000+ HOUR 912... (John Hauck)
15. 04:00 PM - Re: Prop Clearance (Larry Cottrell)
16. 06:13 PM - EXPERIMENTER Cover (Beauford Tuton)
17. 06:27 PM - Fire Fly Ailerons (stephen e. spence)
18. 08:36 PM - OSH (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Ken,
Thanks for all the photos, I will keep them on file until I hear that you
have sold your Firestar.
I live 35 miles north east of Pittsburgh, PA. My buddy who would like to
have a Firestar feels that AZ is just to far to haul one and is also
entangled in a real bad family situation right now so he is not ready to
buy.
Your bird looks fabulous, and is a very good deal, good luck in finding a
new home for her, I am sure someone will scoop it up.
Sincerely,
Denny Rowe
Mk-3 N616DR Leechburg, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: ksanrb <ksanrb@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II For Sale
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ksanrb" <ksanrb@netzero.net>
>
> I have some more (about 8) if you would like to have them sent to you. I
> took out my SLR, shot a roll of film, took them over for one hour
> processing, scanned them in to digital .jpg format. Where did you live
> again? You must be an expert on the construction of a Firestar by now.
> Kenny Broste
> Tucson, AZ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II For Sale
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison"
<firestarii@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Thank you for the reply and the pictures. I will take a good look at
them.
> > Sure wish AZ were closer! Although I did buy some Firestar parts in
Maine
> > one time, that is a pretty serious drive.
> >
> > I have built 2 Firestar II's, one from the old Kolb and one from the new
> > Kolb. I currently have a 1/2 share in a Firestar I, or an original
> Firestar.
> > It has a Rotax 377. It flies well but I prefer the roominess of the
> Firestar
> > II and the fact that I could put my 503 on it. I have a 503 DCDCDI that
I
> am
> > rebuilding at the moment.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > >From: "ksanrb" <ksanrb@netzero.net>
> > >Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > >To: "Kolb List" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar II For Sale
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:40:13 -0700
> > >
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ksanrb" <ksanrb@netzero.net>
> > >
> > >Firestar II airframe completely assembled. Frame covered and
Poly-spray,
> > >Poly-tone paint applied, no instruments or engine.
> > >$6000. Deteriorating health and financial condition reason for sale.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Washers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
Gang,
After trying to find out if I needed nuts for my Ivo prop ,I realized that
the 6 washers In the bag from Ivo were flat washers. Should I be using Lock
washers? Im wondering if I got the bag mixed up or something. If I dont use
lock washers what will keep the bolts on?
Ed (in Houston)
Don't feel bad, Ed, I have an Ivo 3 blade on for about 7 years now and it has nothing
but the bolts and flat washers too, .....I sent a letter to IVO (who's
spelling was subterranian) and he said without any hesitation that any locking
device was unnecessary if the bolts were torqued properly. Blew me away , ....cause
I'm not Russian, I guess.......but it worked very well, I put dabs of fingernail
polish on and they never budged.
George Randolph
Firestar Driver from Akron, O
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| Subject: | 2000+ HOUR 912... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <jrcasey@ldl.net>
I AM COPYING A FEW POSTS THAT Don huff has made to the RANS S7 list
regarding his "care" and feeding of the 80hp Rotax 912 engine...
______________________
Response to a question about airspeeds on his S7...included because of
the mention of how he turned his 70" Warp Drive into a 68.87965" Warp
Drive... ;-) (Taxiing around a paved airfield with the tailwheel up will
get you a prop strike eventually...NO he saved it from a noseover...just
polished the fresh asphalt a little...)
"Jim I have a( worn out?)80 horse 912, at 5400 rpm I get 105 - 112
mph depending on temps and air quality. I have a ( use to be) 70" warp 2
blade. Ground it down a little on the local asphalt, oops!! I now have
1990 hrs on the clock, soon to be 2000, runs just like it did the first
hour. For the fellow trying to decide between Rotax & Jabiru, 2000 hrs
is a long time, I think you can figure out which one I suggest you
should buy. Don Huff"
_________________________
Response to a question about a hot starting problem kinda specific to
RANS S7's (due to the REALLY tight fitting cowling...a hot engine shut
down for a few minutes and let sit then try to crank will not want to
start due to the heat kinda evaporating the fuel out of the carbs or
some sort...) Mentions his "regular" spark plug changes...
"Dale, I fixed my hard starting, by putting drip pans (made by Rotax)
under the carbs. I just replaced my plugs during my annual. Had a
little over 380 hrs. on them. A few of them had gaps as wide as .045.
Was missing a little at mag check. But it never failed to start within 3
prop blades, cold or hot! I see all this talk about plug gap,and have to
wonder what's going on. Don Huff"
______________________________
Response to a "What special did you do to make your engine last that
long question..."
"almost no maintenance! change the oil at 100 hrs, unless I forget,
done
that twice...went 200.I need to check the log book more often. I did
change
the water pump at 1400 hrs, should have left it alone, because it's been
doing it again. 1or 2 drops on the hanger floor after a long flight
.Less
than a pint per year(not worth the trouble). The fuel pump went out at
820hrs. I've balanced the prop now which should help this one.(tiny part
broke inside the pump due to vibration ,I think) and don't think I pet
the thing, I really treat it pretty bad. On several flights I push the
throttle to the wall on take off , climb to 9 to 10000, then 2.5 to 3
hrs later, chop it and dive to the pattern to land. Of course I've had
to change the carb sockets a couple of times, last one was broken over
80% around ,and I wiggle them on every preflight. Also around 600 hrs my
oil press.sender( that runs the hobbs) broke, blew ALL the oil out!!
She ran around 3-4 minutes with the
needle on 0. Filled it back up with Mobile 1 and went on to Canada, I
was in
Wisconson. More later ,have to leave for work. Don Huff"
_________________________________
Response to a "what oil do you run to make it last so long" question...
"MOBILE 1 since day one. 5w 30 or 20w50 I don't care, whatever Wal-mart
has on the shelf. And if you have seen some of my other post, I don't
always change at the PROPER intervals. I do kinda constantly add a
little new oil, cause if you push the stick to hard while inverted,it
will blow oil all over the plane. I had my gearbox off a few weeks ago
(for the first time) to inspect it, because all of my "certified"
airplane buddies scared me into thinking that it had to be worn out. I
tell you what, the lack of wear was UNBELIEVABLE. A friend who owns a
912S, and has had his box off several times, helped me with mine. He was
also surprised at the lack of wear. We replaced one of the cupped
washers, mostly because he had some spares left over from his, and we
felt like we needed to do something while we were in there. Now I'm not
saying Mobile 1 is any better, probably not, but it without a doubt is
good enough, and much easier to find than some of the other brands. I
saw that 912S friend the other day and he said that he had switched to
Mobile 1 after seeing my gears, just because it makes him feel better."
__________________________________
That ought to tell you what the "maintenance" requirements are for a
"high time" 912. Take it for the hangar talk it is... Everybody is
responsible for their own hide... ;-)
Jeremy Casey
BCD Drafting, Inc.
jrcasey@ldl.net
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Washers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
GeoR38@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
>
> Gang,
>After trying to find out if I needed nuts for my Ivo prop ,I realized that
>the 6 washers In the bag from Ivo were flat washers.
> Ed (in Houston)
>
> he said without any hesitation that any locking device was unnecessary if the
bolts were torqued properly.
>George Randolph
>Firestar Driver from Akron, O
>
>He is right too....look at all those rod cap retaining nuts
>
spinning merrily around without any pal nuts or self locking abilities.
-The stretch
in the torqued bolt does the job. If you want a little reassurance put
on a dab of
loctite. My prop, being a warp drive, has metal self-lockers. -BB do
not archive
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "T. K. Frantz" <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Denny,
Great news to hear that you got the Mark III in the air! Way to
go!!!!!!!
Now all the hard work pays off and you can enjoy the pleasure of flying a
Kolb.
Hope to see you sometime. let me know if you get to this part of the
Commonwealth. I would really like to see your plane.
Good luck and safe skies,
Terry - FireFly
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Washers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "T. K. Frantz" <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
DAquaNut@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 7/7/03 9:43:46 PM Central Standard Time,
> rwpike@charter.net writes:
>
> <<
> Restate the problem. What exactly is wrong? Cannot picture it.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Do Not Archive
> >>
> Snip
>
> Richard,
>
> Apparently my Engine is mounted too low but I think I have installed it as
> per Kolb.
> My problem is----- With the wings folded the prop can not be installed
> because there is not enough room to clear the wings. If I cant keep the prop
> horizontal when folding it will be too tall to put in my enclosed trailer.
>
> Ed (in Houston)
>
Ed,
I have more than enough clearance for the prop in the horizontal position when
folded on my FireFly. I'm using a two bladed wood prop and have a about an inch
and one half clearance above the folded aileron.
Question. You are folding the aileron inward when folding the wings, right?
Otherwise if you have them folded out they will stand to high for clearance.
Terry - FireFly # 95
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Clearance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Larry / Terry,
You were both right. I built a fixture to hold my ailerons vertical . I
thought of that last night when I went to the garage to see how the lord
mounts were installed. Looks like I have no choice but to fold the ailerons down.
Looks like my 66" 2-blade ivo comes frighteningly close to the tail boom.
How much clearance do you all have?
Ed (in Houston)
PS Im REALLY starting to identify
with (98% finnished 50% to go)
Ive thought I was nearly finnished
for about a year now.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Washers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 7/8/03 5:55:20 AM Central Standard Time, GeoR38@aol.com
writes:
<< washers? Im wondering if I got the bag mixed up or something. If I dont
use
lock washers what will keep the bolts on?
Ed (in Houston)
>>
snip
Gang,
I think my problem is solved with securing my prop. Please no more
replies, I am afraid someone will become bored & irritated and complain on list.
We dont need that.
Thanks,
Ed (in Houston)
Do Not Archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jspc78@yahoo.com" <jspc78@yahoo.com>
Greetings Kolbers,
My name is Jim and I've been lurking awhile and have
enjoyed the interesting topics discussed, and the
friendly culture here. Think I finally have something
to say. For the last six months I've been looking at
kit planes and keep coming back to the Kolb Mark 3
with a 912S. Plan on going to Oshkosh to fly the
plane and talk with as many of you folks as I can :)
I would like to make my choice and order the first
kit, if everything goes well, at Oshkosh. Looking at
the pictures, the Mark 3 Xtra looks roomy and a little
faster. But going through the archives I haven't
found much conversation on the pros and cons of the
M3X and the M3C. Any suggestions? Is the M3X much
heavier than the M3C? I have many more questions, but
I'll limit myself to just a few at a time ;-)
Thanks in advance for the help, Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Harbour freight tools |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
Folks, I tried the suggestion below and Harbor Freight would not take my order
without the last 4 digits.
do not archive
Bob, Kathleen, and Kory Brocious<EM>Tenacity Farm </EM>
Campbellsburg, Kentucky
From: "Hans vanAlphen" <HVA@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Harbour freight tools
-- Kolb-List message posted by: "Hans vanAlphen" <HVA@BELLSOUTH.NET>
----- Original Message-----
-- Kolb-List message posted by: "George Thompson" <EAGLE1@COMMSPEED.NET>
I too spend a lot of time and money on Harbor freight. A while back ,
someone on this web site told of a way to always get the least price on
any
Harbor Freight tool. There prices vary widely and I have found different
prices for the same tool in the same catalogue. If that person is still on
the list, We all would hope he would enlighten us again. Thanks.
George, it was probably the cheap Dutchman.
When ordering just give them the FIRST five digits of the Item No.
They will ask for the LAST four digits and numbers, it tells them which
catalog.
Say you have no catalog with you and you have only the FIRST FIVE digits
written down and give them what you think is their lowest price or even
less, and they will give you their best price. e.g.
Automatic Battery Float Charger:
41288-0CSA $14.99
41288-0UTB $ 8.49
41288-1RSB $ 7.49
And I think I have seen it for $6.99
This is a great battery trickle charger by the way.
Hans van Alphen
Mark III Xtra
BMW powered
102 hours.
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| Subject: | Re: Harbour freight tools |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Their getting smarter but haven't got it quite right yet. I would have
taken your order and given your the highest price.
jerb 8
)
At 01:42 PM 7/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious"
><bbrocious@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Folks, I tried the suggestion below and Harbor Freight would not take my
>order without the last 4 digits.
>
>do not archive
>
>
>Bob, Kathleen, and Kory Brocious<EM>Tenacity Farm </EM>
>
>Campbellsburg, Kentucky
>
>
>From: "Hans vanAlphen" <HVA@BELLSOUTH.NET>
>To: <KOLB-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Harbour freight tools
>Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:44:05 -0400
>
>-- Kolb-List message posted by: "Hans vanAlphen" <HVA@BELLSOUTH.NET>
>
> ----- Original Message-----
> -- Kolb-List message posted by: "George Thompson" <EAGLE1@COMMSPEED.NET>
>
> I too spend a lot of time and money on Harbor freight. A while back ,
> someone on this web site told of a way to always get the least price on
>any
> Harbor Freight tool. There prices vary widely and I have found different
> prices for the same tool in the same catalogue. If that person is still on
> the list, We all would hope he would enlighten us again. Thanks.
>
>
>George, it was probably the cheap Dutchman.
>When ordering just give them the FIRST five digits of the Item No.
>They will ask for the LAST four digits and numbers, it tells them which
>catalog.
>Say you have no catalog with you and you have only the FIRST FIVE digits
>written down and give them what you think is their lowest price or even
>less, and they will give you their best price. e.g.
>Automatic Battery Float Charger:
>41288-0CSA $14.99
>41288-0UTB $ 8.49
>41288-1RSB $ 7.49
>And I think I have seen it for $6.99
>
>This is a great battery trickle charger by the way.
>
>Hans van Alphen
>Mark III Xtra
>BMW powered
>102 hours.
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <phil@petrasoft.net>
Please see the attached zip file for details.
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| Subject: | Re: Re: First flights of N232S - 07/07/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron Hoyt <rrhoyt@ieee.org>
Thanks for the comebacks
The engine bushing removal suggestion is an easy experiment that I will
try. Ill let you know of the results.
Adding a spring to the trim should work but it seems to be a fix for the
symptom rather than the cause. In any case it is a a good plan B.
Thanks
Ron Hoyt
Apple Valley/MN
Mark III N232S/Rotax912/IVO
It's flying
rrhoyt@ieee.org
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| Subject: | Re: 2000+ HOUR 912... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> That ought to tell you what the "maintenance" requirements are for a
> "high time" 912. Take it for the hangar talk it is... Everybody is
> responsible for their own hide... ;-)
>
> Jeremy Casey
Jeremy/All:
Thanks for the info.
I too use MOBIL I full sythetic, 15W50. Used it
in both the 912 and 912S. Have gotten good
service from it.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Clearance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Larry / Terry,
>
> You were both right. I built a fixture to hold my ailerons vertical .
I
> thought of that last night when I went to the garage to see how the lord
> mounts were installed. Looks like I have no choice but to fold the
ailerons down.
> Looks like my 66" 2-blade ivo comes frighteningly close to the tail boom.
> How much clearance do you all have?
>
>
I am running a 68 inch prop on mine, so you should be fine.
Larry
do not archive
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| Subject: | EXPERIMENTER Cover |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford Tuton" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Hey Kolbers...
Lookee at the cover of the EAA Experimenter mag that came in the mail today....
There is that spectacularly pretty factory Fly with the flag paint job on short
final at Lakeland... really great shot...
Unfortunately, there is some really homely dude driving it... looks like the Kolb
works coulda done better.... I mean, since it's a big-time magazine cover
and all... they musta had someone a tad more photogenic who could get it around
the pattern without rolling it up..... wonder who the devil that character
is...?
Beauford
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| Subject: | Fire Fly Ailerons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
To all the Fire Fly owners on the list that still have oversize (15" or larger)
ailerons, I strongly encourage you to go smaller. After chatting with Jack
Hart about the ailerons, I recently changed my 17" ailerons to 11". What a delightful
difference! I can actually "wag" my wings now. It is a completely different
aircraft. I did not want to miss any flying this summer, so I arranged
with Brian Melborn (formerly of Lite Speed) to fabricate a new pair. Brian
got them done and shipped in less than two weeks. They looked great, better
than the rest of the plane. Only missed one day of flying. I no longer need
any aileron trim. Can't wait to fly again!
Steve Spence FF013, building Mk3-X
Auburn Hills, MI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'm not sure when I'll be at, or near, Oshkosh this month...................if
I even get there this month. When exactly is the big show ?? At SnF last year,
the idea of FRS radios was talked over a bit, but few people brought them.
Would those be an option for OSH this month, to make it easier to get in touch
with each other ?? If so, we should decide on a channel to use. In Klamath
Falls last week, Larry Cottrell showed me how the radios would receive all codes
on a channel if set to code "0". That is, set the radio to, say, channel
5, code 0; and it would receive all calls to channel 5, regardless of code,
so seems to me that would be the way to go. What do you all think ?? I'm
leaving Vancouver, B.C. on Thursday morning, and have a lot of territory to
cover here in B.C., and in Saskatchewan next week. I WILL try to be there to
meet everyone. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
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