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1. 04:27 AM - Re: Kolbs are Different (Dave Rains)
2. 04:59 AM - Re: smaller ailerons on firefly (Ted Cowan)
3. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: smaller ailerons on firefly (possums)
4. 06:27 AM - Re: Mobil 1 (Hans vanAlphen)
5. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Mobil 1 (John Hauck)
6. 07:18 AM - Re: Re: Mobil 1 (ul15rhb@juno.com)
7. 08:43 AM - Re: Aero-News Network (Vince Hallam)
8. 11:55 AM - Firefly review (Wayne F.Wilson)
9. 12:53 PM - Firefly review (John Hauck)
10. 06:23 PM - Re: Prop Clearance (T. K. Frantz)
11. 06:33 PM - Re: Fire Fly Ailerons (jerb)
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| Subject: | Kolbs are Different |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
Seems to me we were doing that at gross in my spam can.
Dave Rains,
I've got to build another Kolb!
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM [SMTP:Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil]
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbs are Different
I was humbled, and honored. Although I'm *only* seeing 700 fpm climb rate,
that must be lots more than the Pipers and Cessnas are doing out here at
this 6200 foot elevation airport, and the locals must notice. That made my
day!
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| Subject: | Re: smaller ailerons on firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
Okay, the jury is in on the firefly with smaller ails. Has anybody tried to
put smaller ones on the original firestar? I mean, they are great big
gaping ails. I would think they would work better with reversed taper, with
the larger part on the wing tip rather than inside. I have considered
changing mine to the type on the Firestar II, short with no flap. Anyone
have any experience there? Thanks. Ted C.
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| Subject: | Re: smaller ailerons on firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 06:55 AM 7/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
>
>Okay, the jury is in on the firefly with smaller ails. Has anybody tried to
>put smaller ones on the original firestar? I mean, they are great big
>gaping ails. I would think they would work better with reversed taper, with
>the larger part on the wing tip rather than inside. I have considered
>changing mine to the type on the Firestar II, short with no flap. Anyone
>have any experience there? Thanks. Ted C.
Mine are at least 2 inches narrower (I can't remember exactly)and tapered
toward the wing tip - no flaps. I don't think you need all that aileron.
Takes all that heavy feel out of the stick and turns a lot better.
Had the old "barn door" ailerons on my Firestar XP.
Would really give your arm a work out at higher speeds.
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/ailermod.jpg
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Xhingestrailingedge.jpg
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hans vanAlphen" <hva@bellsouth.net>
>
> Jeremy/All:
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> I too use MOBIL I full sythetic, 15W50. Used it
> in both the 912 and 912S. Have gotten good
> service from it.
>
> john h
>
John and Jeremy,
The Mobil 1 you use is it the automotive kind or the Motorcycle oil ?
There seem to be additional ZDDP anti-wear additives in the newly formulated
motorcycle oil as described on Mobil 1 website ?
Go to FAQ on :
www.mobil1.com/motorcycle/index.jsp
The Mobil 1 - VTwin 20w50 seems ideal ?
It seems that the ZDDP anti-wear additives in the automotive oils have been
reduced to meet emission standards and the high phosphorous content can harm
late model catalytic converters, which we do not have.
Castrol GTX used to be loaded with ZDDP's, but not anymore.
Hans van Alphen
Mark III Xtra
BMW powered
102 hours.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The Mobil 1 you use is it the automotive kind or the Motorcycle oil ?
> There seem to be additional ZDDP anti-wear additives in the newly formulated
> motorcycle oil as described on Mobil 1 website ?
> Hans van Alphen
Han/Gang:
I use automotive Mobil I full synthetic, 15W50.
Have had good results and it costs much less than
what I can buy the motorcycle Mobil I oil. I did
buy two quarts of Mobil I syn motorcycle oil at
Auto Zone for my Suzuki water cooled 400cc
thumper. Couldn't tell if there was an
improvement over Shell Rotella Full Synthetic,
5W40. By the time I got out the door the tab was
nearly $18.00. Generally, Wal*Mart has Mobil I
full sythetic 15W50 in gal jugs for about $18.00.
I change the oil in my 912S much more than called
for in the Service Manual, primarily because I end
up burning a lot of 100LL. Rotax says the 912
series engines do not like the lead in 100LL. I
also use Alcor TCP when using 100LL.
At 400 hours my gear box was removed. Gears and
components showed no sign of wear. The 912 went
1,135 hours and never had the gear box removed,
but was running strong when I pulled the engine
off the MK III.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
I always use Mobil 1 75w-90 synthetic gear oil in my 447 gearbox. It runs cooler
and always drains clear every year when I change it.
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar, Rotax 447
--- John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The Mobil 1 you use is it the automotive kind or the Motorcycle oil ?
> There seem to be additional ZDDP anti-wear additives in the newly formulated
> motorcycle oil as described on Mobil 1 website ?
> Hans van Alphen
Han/Gang:
I use automotive Mobil I full synthetic, 15W50.
Have had good results and it costs much less than
what I can buy the motorcycle Mobil I oil. I did
buy two quarts of Mobil I syn motorcycle oil at
Auto Zone for my Suzuki water cooled 400cc
thumper. Couldn't tell if there was an
improvement over Shell Rotella Full Synthetic,
5W40. By the time I got out the door the tab was
nearly $18.00. Generally, Wal*Mart has Mobil I
full sythetic 15W50 in gal jugs for about $18.00.
I change the oil in my 912S much more than called
for in the Service Manual, primarily because I end
up burning a lot of 100LL. Rotax says the 912
series engines do not like the lead in 100LL. I
also use Alcor TCP when using 100LL.
At 400 hours my gear box was removed. Gears and
components showed no sign of wear. The 912 went
1,135 hours and never had the gear box removed,
but was running strong when I pulled the engine
off the MK III.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Aero-News Network |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vince Hallam" <vincehallam@devonwindmills.co.uk>
Dont foget we brits dnt claimit all there was aders avion in france
around 1898 I think but Cayleys was not powered,BTW there was
another Cayley replica flew the same place about 15-20 years ago
flown by Pigot?? It han the original control mechanism not like
Bransons.. Cayleys system was a very long tiller off the back of the
fuselage "boat" with a cruciform tail on the end of it.. I think there is
a New Zealanders claim to a first powered flight about 1900
somewhere in the mill and I have a very rare photo of a guy called
LaVezzari flying a rogallo type glider in 1903 over northern France
Then there was a guy called Homer who......
Vnz
On 7 Jul 2003 at 19:31, Bob Bean wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean
<slyck@frontiernet.net>
Ultrastar owners, check this out. 1853? looks sorta familiardoesn't
it? do not archive
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=2dd0aeb5-
4f53-4a49-a
67b-454929008172&
<http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=2dd0aeb5-
4f53-4a49-
a67b-454929008172&>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne F.Wilson" <wfwilson1@yahoo.ca>
Does anyone know where to find on the internet pilot
reviews for Kolb Firefly? UL Magazine has the books
you can order but I only want the one test.
Thanks
Wayne F Wilson
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Does anyone know where to find on the internet pilot
> reviews for Kolb Firefly?
> Wayne F Wilson
Wayne/all:
Have you tried the folks that build the kits? The
New Kolb Aircraft Company?
Or.........., how about the pilots on this List
that built, own, and fly Kolb Fire Fly's. I can
guarantee you, they know a lot more about the Fire
Fly than Dan Johnson will ever dream about. He is
the guy that has been doing the UL Flying aircraft
tests since I have been on board, for 20 years
now. Trouble is, he only gets to spend a couple
hours, if that much, with the aircraft he gets to
fly.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Clearance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "T. K. Frantz" <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
DAquaNut@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Larry / Terry,
>
> You were both right. I built a fixture to hold my ailerons vertical . I
> thought of that last night when I went to the garage to see how the lord
> mounts were installed. Looks like I have no choice but to fold the ailerons
down.
> Looks like my 66" 2-blade ivo comes frighteningly close to the tail boom.
> How much clearance do you all have?
>
> Ed (in Houston)
>
> PS Im REALLY starting to identify
> with (98% finnished 50% to go)
> Ive thought I was nearly finnished
> for about a year now.
>
> Do not archive
>
Ed,
Not to worry! I swing a 66 inch wooden prop also. If the prop hits the tail boom,
something else has seriously failed and you have much more to worry about than
the
clearance. Go fly and enjoy!!!
Terry - FireFly # 95
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| Subject: | Re: Fire Fly Ailerons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Steve,
What benefit are you actually experiencing with the aileron mod. I can wag
my wing as it now. You say it is a completely different aircraft but don't
elaborate on it. Help us out here.
jerb
At 09:23 PM 7/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
>
>To all the Fire Fly owners on the list that still have oversize (15" or
>larger) ailerons, I strongly encourage you to go smaller. After chatting
>with Jack Hart about the ailerons, I recently changed my 17" ailerons to
>11". What a delightful difference! I can actually "wag" my wings
>now. It is a completely different aircraft. I did not want to miss any
>flying this summer, so I arranged with Brian Melborn (formerly of Lite
>Speed) to fabricate a new pair. Brian got them done and shipped in less
>than two weeks. They looked great, better than the rest of the
>plane. Only missed one day of flying. I no longer need any aileron
>trim. Can't wait to fly again!
>
>Steve Spence FF013, building Mk3-X
>Auburn Hills, MI
>
>do not archive
>
>
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