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1. 04:39 AM - newbie (jrodebush)
2. 05:15 AM - pod for ultrastar (Daniel Walter)
3. 05:36 AM - Re: pod for ultrastar (ronnie wehba)
4. 08:08 AM - Kolbs in NC (Rayfield, Bill)
5. 08:35 AM - Re: Kolbs in NC (Jim)
6. 02:30 PM - Re: Prop Clearance (DAquaNut@aol.com)
7. 03:23 PM - Re: Fire Fly Ailerons (stephen e. spence)
8. 03:46 PM - Taill Boom/Fuselage Ring (NBD)
9. 05:10 PM - Re: Prop Clearance (Larry Cottrell)
10. 05:31 PM - Re: Fire Fly Ailerons (jerb)
11. 06:35 PM - Re: Fire Fly Ailerons (ronnie wehba)
12. 06:39 PM - Re: Taill Boom/Fuselage Ring (Richard Pike)
13. 06:53 PM - Re: Raising horizontal stab on Mark III (ZepRep251@aol.com)
14. 07:49 PM - Re: rectifer mount (ZepRep251@aol.com)
15. 10:49 PM - Big tires ()
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jrodebush" <jrodebush@cinci.rr.com>
Jim,
I ordered the classic Kolb then switched to the Extra when it came out a few months
later. In the Classic you have to tilt your legs slightly towards the center.
I have a lower back problem & that seemed to put a strain on it. In the
Extra you can sit with your legs straight out. Seemed a lot more comfortable.
Also, the Extra is supposed to be a bit cleaner & therefore faster. I would
think the slow speed performance would be about the same.
Rex Rodebush
>From: "jspc78@yahoo.com" <jspc78@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb newbie
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jspc78@yahoo.com" <jspc78@yahoo.com>
>Greetings Kolbers,
>My name is Jim and I've been lurking awhile and have
>enjoyed the interesting topics discussed, and the
>friendly culture here. Think I finally have something
>to say. For the last six months I've been looking at
kit planes and keep coming back to the Kolb Mark 3
with a 912S. Plan on going to Oshkosh to fly the
plane and talk with as many of you folks as I can :)
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| Subject: | pod for ultrastar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@paonline.com>
Any body have a source for a nice looking pilot pod for an old Ultrastar, any sugestions
would be appreciated. thanks ,Dan
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| Subject: | Re: pod for ultrastar |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
what part of the country you in ,I have a old US also out here in west
Texas?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@paonline.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: pod for ultrastar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@paonline.com>
>
> Any body have a source for a nice looking pilot pod for an old Ultrastar,
any sugestions would be appreciated. thanks ,Dan
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com>
I'm in Winston-Salem, and may need to find somebody around here that could
at least give me some rides in a Kolb. Anybody around?
Bill Rayfield
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Bill,
I am in Charlotte and keep my Mark III in Concord.
Jim
Mark III
Charlotte, NC
704-510-1339
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From: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbs in NC
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com>
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> I'm in Winston-Salem, and may need to find somebody around here that could
> at least give me some rides in a Kolb. Anybody around?
>
> Bill Rayfield
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Clearance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 7/8/03 5:01:19 PM Central Standard Time,
lcottrel@kfalls.net writes:
<< Looks like my 66" 2-blade ivo comes frighteningly close to the tail boom.
> How much clearance do you all have?
>
>
I am running a 68 inch prop on mine, so you should be fine.
Larry
do not archive
>>
Snip
Larry,
You're Running A 68" prop On a firefly? 447? I dont have that much
clearance.
Ed (in Houston)
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Fire Fly Ailerons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
jerb/others:
In my case the straight tubes of the new ailerons and the aligned hinges
now work smoothly without effort. The control pressures required to begin
or cancel a given bank have been much reduced. The response to control
inputs is quick and crisp. The prior arrangement required that I lean hard
on the stick and the craft would slowly start a roll, then I would have to
lean just as hard to bring it back to level. Forget about dealing with
thermals lifting one wing, I just couldn't react in time to keep up with the
rock & rolling. Now it feels like I'm driving a sports car, able to take on
any curvy road. I will qualify all the above by adding that I only had 25 -
30 hours in the FF before and less than an hour since the aileron change.
I'm looking forward to lots more flying and practicing the heretofore
unthinkable like X-wind landings.
Steve Spence
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fire Fly Ailerons
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>
> Steve,
> What benefit are you actually experiencing with the aileron mod. I can
wag
> my wing as it now. You say it is a completely different aircraft but
don't
> elaborate on it. Help us out here.
> jerb
>
> At 09:23 PM 7/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
> >
> >To all the Fire Fly owners on the list that still have oversize (15" or
> >larger) ailerons, I strongly encourage you to go smaller. After
chatting
> >with Jack Hart about the ailerons, I recently changed my 17" ailerons to
> >11". What a delightful difference! I can actually "wag" my wings
> >now. It is a completely different aircraft. I did not want to miss any
> >flying this summer, so I arranged with Brian Melborn (formerly of Lite
> >Speed) to fabricate a new pair. Brian got them done and shipped in less
> >than two weeks. They looked great, better than the rest of the
> >plane. Only missed one day of flying. I no longer need any aileron
> >trim. Can't wait to fly again!
> >
> >Steve Spence FF013, building Mk3-X
> >Auburn Hills, MI
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Taill Boom/Fuselage Ring |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "NBD" <mk3@bailinair.com>
Heaven knows it's a tight fit already, and I've read about the 100 watt bulb
and ice trick, but I'm curious...
I assume that builders are coating the inside of the Taill Boom/Fuselage
ring with a light coat of primer. Correct ?
Regards
Noel
Kolb MK III Classic
New Hampshire
http://www.bailinair.com
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Clearance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
oops! thought we were talking about a firestar. Proof reader fell asleep I
guess.
Larry
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAquaNut@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Prop Clearance
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 7/8/03 5:01:19 PM Central Standard Time,
> lcottrel@kfalls.net writes:
>
> << Looks like my 66" 2-blade ivo comes frighteningly close to the tail
boom.
> > How much clearance do you all have?
> >
> >
> I am running a 68 inch prop on mine, so you should be fine.
> Larry
> do not archive
> >>
>
> Snip
>
> Larry,
>
> You're Running A 68" prop On a firefly? 447? I dont have that much
> clearance.
>
>
> Ed (in Houston)
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fire Fly Ailerons |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
Get some altitude and see if your can tell any difference in the ability to
do a side slip as if you were coming in for a landing at the approach
speed. Also effect of the ailerons at slower landing speeds 45-60 MPH
keeping the wings level.
jerb
At 06:20 PM 7/10/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
>
>jerb/others:
>
> In my case the straight tubes of the new ailerons and the aligned hinges
>now work smoothly without effort. The control pressures required to begin
>or cancel a given bank have been much reduced. The response to control
>inputs is quick and crisp. The prior arrangement required that I lean hard
>on the stick and the craft would slowly start a roll, then I would have to
>lean just as hard to bring it back to level. Forget about dealing with
>thermals lifting one wing, I just couldn't react in time to keep up with the
>rock & rolling. Now it feels like I'm driving a sports car, able to take on
>any curvy road. I will qualify all the above by adding that I only had 25 -
>30 hours in the FF before and less than an hour since the aileron change.
>I'm looking forward to lots more flying and practicing the heretofore
>unthinkable like X-wind landings.
>
>Steve Spence
>
>do not archive
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fire Fly Ailerons
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
> >
> > Steve,
> > What benefit are you actually experiencing with the aileron mod. I can
>wag
> > my wing as it now. You say it is a completely different aircraft but
>don't
> > elaborate on it. Help us out here.
> > jerb
> >
> > At 09:23 PM 7/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
> > >
> > >To all the Fire Fly owners on the list that still have oversize (15" or
> > >larger) ailerons, I strongly encourage you to go smaller. After
>chatting
> > >with Jack Hart about the ailerons, I recently changed my 17" ailerons to
> > >11". What a delightful difference! I can actually "wag" my wings
> > >now. It is a completely different aircraft. I did not want to miss any
> > >flying this summer, so I arranged with Brian Melborn (formerly of Lite
> > >Speed) to fabricate a new pair. Brian got them done and shipped in less
> > >than two weeks. They looked great, better than the rest of the
> > >plane. Only missed one day of flying. I no longer need any aileron
> > >trim. Can't wait to fly again!
> > >
> > >Steve Spence FF013, building Mk3-X
> > >Auburn Hills, MI
> > >
> > >do not archive
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fire Fly Ailerons |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
will this work on a old ultrastar, as it is VERY heavy
----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fire Fly Ailerons
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
>
> jerb/others:
>
> In my case the straight tubes of the new ailerons and the aligned
hinges
> now work smoothly without effort. The control pressures required to begin
> or cancel a given bank have been much reduced. The response to control
> inputs is quick and crisp. The prior arrangement required that I lean
hard
> on the stick and the craft would slowly start a roll, then I would have to
> lean just as hard to bring it back to level. Forget about dealing with
> thermals lifting one wing, I just couldn't react in time to keep up with
the
> rock & rolling. Now it feels like I'm driving a sports car, able to take
on
> any curvy road. I will qualify all the above by adding that I only had
25 -
> 30 hours in the FF before and less than an hour since the aileron change.
> I'm looking forward to lots more flying and practicing the heretofore
> unthinkable like X-wind landings.
>
> Steve Spence
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jerb" <ulflyer@airmail.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fire Fly Ailerons
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
> >
> > Steve,
> > What benefit are you actually experiencing with the aileron mod. I can
> wag
> > my wing as it now. You say it is a completely different aircraft but
> don't
> > elaborate on it. Help us out here.
> > jerb
> >
> > At 09:23 PM 7/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
> > >
> > >To all the Fire Fly owners on the list that still have oversize (15" or
> > >larger) ailerons, I strongly encourage you to go smaller. After
> chatting
> > >with Jack Hart about the ailerons, I recently changed my 17" ailerons
to
> > >11". What a delightful difference! I can actually "wag" my wings
> > >now. It is a completely different aircraft. I did not want to miss
any
> > >flying this summer, so I arranged with Brian Melborn (formerly of Lite
> > >Speed) to fabricate a new pair. Brian got them done and shipped in
less
> > >than two weeks. They looked great, better than the rest of the
> > >plane. Only missed one day of flying. I no longer need any aileron
> > >trim. Can't wait to fly again!
> > >
> > >Steve Spence FF013, building Mk3-X
> > >Auburn Hills, MI
> > >
> > >do not archive
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Taill Boom/Fuselage Ring |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
I did, I sprayed a good heavy dose of zinc chromate on it and thunked it
into place while it was still wet. Let the paint act as a lubricant to get
it into place. Of course, the holes were already drilled and de burred...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 06:46 PM 7/10/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "NBD" <mk3@bailinair.com>
>
>Heaven knows it's a tight fit already, and I've read about the 100 watt bulb
>and ice trick, but I'm curious...
>
>I assume that builders are coating the inside of the Taill Boom/Fuselage
>ring with a light coat of primer. Correct ?
>
>
>Regards
>Noel
>Kolb MK III Classic
>New Hampshire
>http://www.bailinair.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Raising horizontal stab on Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
made extentions out of 4130 same thickness and width,drilled one hole below
the orignal in the existing tab.and bolted the extentions on with tube spacers
between the tabs so I could tighten them and make the extentions any length
you want.I started with 2'' above stock with a hole drilled every 1/2'' You can
move them up or down quickly but you can't fold the tail unless it is in the
top hole.so when you find the right setting,you have to cut off all stock above
that hole.
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| Subject: | Re: rectifer mount |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
mounted it under the seat pan
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Kolbers,
Since all its been doing here lately is raining, and I have had more time to let
my mind wonder since the Mk-3 is finished, I convinced myself that I needed
tundra tires on my bird.
I wound up with a pair of Turf - Glides in the 8.00 x 6 size. Mounted them on
the Matcos last night and will install em on the Kolb tomorrow, wow are they big,
there goes a few mph. :-( But I figure if it keeps raining around here
they will double as floats. :-)
Groundhog holes are no longer a problem.
Denny Rowe
Mk-3 N616DR, 690L-70, and really freaking large tires.
PS:A redesign on the tailwheel with a color coordinated scooter wheel is next,
The 4130 tubing is on its way from Aircraft Spruce.
Well it used to weigh 475 pounds.
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