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1. 02:15 PM - WING ALIGNMENT AND ATTACHMENT (Jim Ballenger)
2. 02:33 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2003 (Rick & Martha Neilsen)
3. 02:49 PM - Re: WING ALIGNMENT AND ATTACHMENT (Richard Pike)
4. 05:45 PM - Re: Taill Boom/Fuselage Ring (CaptainRon)
5. 05:49 PM - Re: WING ALIGNMENT AND ATTACHMENT (Bob Bean)
6. 06:23 PM - Re: There's a lesson here somewhere... (Go5for4@aol.com)
7. 07:04 PM - Trailer (John Anderson)
8. 07:05 PM - Re: pod for ultrastar (woody)
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| Subject: | WING ALIGNMENT AND ATTACHMENT |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
All
I am nearing the wing alignment and attachment to the cage of my MK III X kit.
I have read and reread the building manual and have a few questions. I plan
on calling the factory to clear up some nagging concerns I have. Any lessons
learned out there? Any and all tidbits of info on how to proceed will be appreciated.
Thanks
Jim Ballenger
Flying a FS KXP 447
Building a MK III X
Virginia Beach, VA
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
John Williamson, John Hauck, Scott Trask
I just got back from Lake Michigan, rain every day and the last few days
were in the 60s with 20 - 30 knot winds so don't do too much of your cold
weather dancing. Times getting close for Oshkosh and I have a few things to
get done before I leave but my departure for Scott Trasks will be around the
27th with a planed arrival at Scotts some time on the 28th. I also would
like to fly into Oshkosh on the morning of the 29th as a flight of four (or
more) Kolbs. The weather can be a real factor here in Michigan especially
over the lake so I have left the 25th and 26th open if I need to start that
early to make Scotts by the 28th. My planned route will be direct from Grand
Ledge to Charlevoix (CVX) over Beaver Island (SJX) to Schoolcraft (ISQ) and
then on to Scotts with fuel, rest and weather stops as needed. I plan to be
at Oshkosh for the full week and have 5 screw in dog tie downs that I will
be taking along to keep my Kolb on the ground at Oshkosh as there always
seems to be thunder storm and/or high winds during the show. I will be
camping under the wing of the plane for the week and don't have any date
that I need to get home.
As time gets close I will post my departure and I will stick around if I
know when you guys will be dropping into my place.
Also Larry Bourne are we going to see you at Oshkosh and/or are you going to
stop by Grand Ledge before or after the show.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIII
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| Subject: | Re: WING ALIGNMENT AND ATTACHMENT |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Just a few thoughts -
Make sure all your jigs are sturdy and won't wiggle
String taped from wingtip to wingtip along the leading edge makes any
misalignment easy to see
Holding everything still while you drill the holes for the main spar clevis
pin at the carry through is trickiest. We used shims to fill the gaps so we
could clamp it tightly with vise grips, and then we drilled it with a new
sharp drill bit. Being off 1/16" at that point equals a bunch at the tips.
Have a couple mechanically sharp helpers. You only want the good ones
around that day.
If there is someone there that is sharper than you are, listen to him
respectfully, but don't let him screw it up if he hasn't got the picture.
Make sure everyone is agreed on the method and understands what you want.
Take the wheels off. It will sit stationary on the end of the gear legs
better than anything else.
If you drill your bolt holes that hold the lift strut end fittings into the
lift struts so that they are spaced exactly the same between each bolt,
then if you ever decide you want to experiment with more or less dihedral,
all you need to do take out the bolts, slide the fitting in or out one bolt
hole space, drill one new hole in the end fitting, (don't cut off the
internal extra) and bolt it all back together. Everything else will still
fit normally.
When you think everything is aligned and ready to drill the holes, back off
30' and eyeball it. Look for the wings not at the same angle, anything that
doesn't look symmetrical, it should look right. If it doesn't, remeasure or
find out why. Over the years, I have seen two ultralights with the wings
mounted at different angles to the fuselage, or one wing swept forward and
one back, and the builders wondered why they kept wanting to roll off on
one side...
Have fun. I did.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 05:14 PM 7/13/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
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>All
>I am nearing the wing alignment and attachment to the cage of my MK III X
>kit. I have read and reread the building manual and have a few
>questions. I plan on calling the factory to clear up some nagging
>concerns I have. Any lessons learned out there? Any and all tidbits of
>info on how to proceed will be appreciated.
>Thanks
>Jim Ballenger
>Flying a FS KXP 447
>Building a MK III X
>Virginia Beach, VA
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Taill Boom/Fuselage Ring |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
When I mated the tail boom into the cage, I made the
mistake of priming the ring heavily. I ended lubing
the ring with light oil and then had to hammer the
boom into the ring using a mallet hitting on a piece
of wood. After some work it set in just fine. Maybe
warming the ring as you mentioned and heaving someone
helping to slip it in would be an easier way. On the
other hand a lighter coat of primer would probably
serve just as well.
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--- NBD <mk3@bailinair.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "NBD"
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> Heaven knows it's a tight fit already, and I've read
> about the 100 watt bulb
> and ice trick, but I'm curious...
>
> I assume that builders are coating the inside of the
> Taill Boom/Fuselage
> ring with a light coat of primer. Correct ?
>
>
> Regards
> Noel
> Kolb MK III Classic
> New Hampshire
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| Subject: | Re: WING ALIGNMENT AND ATTACHMENT |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Jim, most important is the second wing matches the first :)
-BB do not archive
Jim Ballenger wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
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>All
>I am nearing the wing alignment and attachment to the cage of my MK III X kit.
I have read and reread the building manual and have a few questions. I plan
on calling the factory to clear up some nagging concerns I have. Any lessons
learned out there? Any and all tidbits of info on how to proceed will be appreciated.
>Thanks
>Jim Ballenger
>Flying a FS KXP 447
>Building a MK III X
>Virginia Beach, VA
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: There's a lesson here somewhere... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Go5for4@aol.com
Glad your incident turned out as well as it did. See you at London Ky.
do not archive
Merle Hargis in Orlando, Fl.
flying Firefly
> Had an adventure today, got to make a forced landing.
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson3@nc.rr.com>
Once upon a time I built a large flat bed trailer for my Ultrastar with intentions
of inclosing it. I never finished inclosing it so I have a large flat bed
trailer 6 feet across inside and 25 ft long to the point (I think). It would
probably work fine for a firestar but I don't know how much larger mark II ands
III's are when folded.
I may sell this separate from my US, any interest out there??
What kinda a price would a custom built trailer like this fetch???
I have pics if anyone is interested. Could also get exact measurements if needed.
-JA
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: pod for ultrastar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: woody <duesouth@govital.net>
At 08:15 AM 7/10/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@paonline.com>
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>Any body have a source for a nice looking pilot pod for an old Ultrastar,
>any sugestions would be appreciated. thanks ,Dan
Carve your own. Use blue styrofoam from the builders supply and then
fiberglass over it with "west System" or similar epoxy based resin. Draw it
out first in all views and then build it exactly to your drawings. If it
doesn't look quite right after that then you can alter it. It is easier to
sand foam than epoxy so get it right before you glass it. An example of
this can be found in photo share with the photos of my thunderbird.
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