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1. 12:56 AM - Re: Oshkosh (DAquaNut@aol.com)
2. 05:53 AM - Re: up and away (again) (ronnie wehba)
3. 06:27 AM - Re: up and away (again) (ronnie wehba)
4. 12:29 PM - Re: up and away (again) (Rick & Martha Neilsen)
5. 01:21 PM - paper model of a Firefly (Go5for4@aol.com)
6. 04:29 PM - Re: Uv protection (Ben Ransom)
7. 08:10 PM - Kolbs in Ontario (Frank Otta)
8. 08:47 PM - Re: Kolbs in Ontario (Woody)
9. 08:49 PM - Re: rig wings. (Woody)
10. 08:53 PM - Re: up and away (again) (Woody)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Gang,
I just got reservations for airfare to Oshkosh. Milwaukee Actually. Was it
agreed on to meet at the Kolb trailer at 11:00 each day? Has any one started
a list of those planning to attend?
Ed (in Houston)
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| Subject: | Re: up and away (again) |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
are we weird?? both have a max and a kolb?? thanks I'll look at the linkage
----- Original Message -----
From: <herbgh@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: up and away (again)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
>
> Ronnie
> I haven't flown my ultrastar as of yet but I took about 30% of the
> chord off of mine. Aparently another fix is to lengthen the bel cranks
> or any other way to gain mechanical advantage. The answer, as applied to
> other models is in the archives somewhere?? I have the same problem on
> my Zmax . Herb
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:56:39 -0700 jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net> writes:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
> >
> > I think you mean required aileron stick force - don't want readers
> > to
> > confuse weight and force as there are some counter balance weights
> > that
> > some Kolbs use to balance the ailerons which is a whole different
> > topic.
> > jerb
> >
> > At 07:13 PM 7/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> > >
> > >Just reading this post about aileron weights,my ultrastar is really
> > heavy,
> > >any ideas??
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
> > >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: up and away (again)
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger"
> > <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
> > > >
> > > > Woody
> > > > Congratulations. You stated the ailerons were light. Did you
> > drill and
> > > > attach per the plan or did you do a modification to the hole
> > location?
> > > > Jim Ballenger
> > > > Flying a FS KXP 447
> > > > Building a MK III X
> > > > Virginia Beach, VA
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
> > > > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: Kolb-List: up and away (again)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody"
> > <duesouth@govital.net>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It took 2 and a half years but the club plane finally made
> > it into the
> > > > > air. We bought the kit in florida for a club to build. It was
> > promised
> > > > that
> > > > > all members would help and they did for the first couple
> > months. Then it
> > > > > became a Woody and Andy project. I will not do a club project
> > again lots
> > > > of
> > > > > support in the beginning but not a lot of follow through.
> > Being the one
> > > > > pushing for a Kolb I felt obligated to finish the project.
> > Last night it
> > > > > flew. Standard Mk 111 with a 582 built to the plans. I could
> > not
> > >believe
> > > > > the different feel of the aircraft. The ailerons were light!!!!
> > I could
> > > > > even wag the wings. I have never experienced this on a Kolb
> > before. It
> > >was
> > > > > getting dark so I only spent 10 minutes in the air but what a
> > nice
> > >flight.
> > > > I
> > > > > will report on further tests but so far I am incredibly happy
> > with the
> > > > > performance shown in that first flight. One more Kolb in the
> > air and one
> > > > > more waiting beside my hanger for a rebuild. Had a wiener
> > roast here
> > >last
> > > > > Sunday about 25 people showed up and we had 4 Kolbs on the
> > field. 3 Mk
> > > > 111s
> > > > > and my original Twinstar. I hope the photos turn out.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: up and away (again) |
BAYES_30, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
where are the planes at?
----- Original Message -----
From: <herbgh@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: up and away (again)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
>
> Ronnie
> I haven't flown my ultrastar as of yet but I took about 30% of the
> chord off of mine. Aparently another fix is to lengthen the bel cranks
> or any other way to gain mechanical advantage. The answer, as applied to
> other models is in the archives somewhere?? I have the same problem on
> my Zmax . Herb
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:56:39 -0700 jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net> writes:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@airmail.net>
> >
> > I think you mean required aileron stick force - don't want readers
> > to
> > confuse weight and force as there are some counter balance weights
> > that
> > some Kolbs use to balance the ailerons which is a whole different
> > topic.
> > jerb
> >
> > At 07:13 PM 7/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> > >
> > >Just reading this post about aileron weights,my ultrastar is really
> > heavy,
> > >any ideas??
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
> > >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: up and away (again)
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger"
> > <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
> > > >
> > > > Woody
> > > > Congratulations. You stated the ailerons were light. Did you
> > drill and
> > > > attach per the plan or did you do a modification to the hole
> > location?
> > > > Jim Ballenger
> > > > Flying a FS KXP 447
> > > > Building a MK III X
> > > > Virginia Beach, VA
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
> > > > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: Kolb-List: up and away (again)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody"
> > <duesouth@govital.net>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It took 2 and a half years but the club plane finally made
> > it into the
> > > > > air. We bought the kit in florida for a club to build. It was
> > promised
> > > > that
> > > > > all members would help and they did for the first couple
> > months. Then it
> > > > > became a Woody and Andy project. I will not do a club project
> > again lots
> > > > of
> > > > > support in the beginning but not a lot of follow through.
> > Being the one
> > > > > pushing for a Kolb I felt obligated to finish the project.
> > Last night it
> > > > > flew. Standard Mk 111 with a 582 built to the plans. I could
> > not
> > >believe
> > > > > the different feel of the aircraft. The ailerons were light!!!!
> > I could
> > > > > even wag the wings. I have never experienced this on a Kolb
> > before. It
> > >was
> > > > > getting dark so I only spent 10 minutes in the air but what a
> > nice
> > >flight.
> > > > I
> > > > > will report on further tests but so far I am incredibly happy
> > with the
> > > > > performance shown in that first flight. One more Kolb in the
> > air and one
> > > > > more waiting beside my hanger for a rebuild. Had a wiener
> > roast here
> > >last
> > > > > Sunday about 25 people showed up and we had 4 Kolbs on the
> > field. 3 Mk
> > > > 111s
> > > > > and my original Twinstar. I hope the photos turn out.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | up and away (again) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Woody
Do you have any information on that fly-in in Michigan.
I haven't heard anything about it or even were it is.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIII
<them. Maybe this weekend I will take it up for a flight and see if it
works.
Should be going to a michigan fly in on Sat. Hope to see some list members
there.>
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| Subject: | paper model of a Firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Go5for4@aol.com
I s Scott still on the list, or does anyone have his e-mail address? I sent
a message to the address shown on the message below it came back.
Thanks
Merle
************************************************************************************************************
Scott=A0=A0
I went thru the archives and found your message of DEC.16, 1999 about the
model Fire Fly.=A0 Do you still have the drawing?=A0 If you do I would sure=20like
to
have the Drawing.
Merle Hargis=A0 in Orlando, Fl.
flying
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Scott Olendorf
Hi all,
If you are done flying for the season and are a little bored or if you
are
currently building and need a break then I have something for you. It
would
be especially fun for those building a Firefly but everyone should
enjoy it.
ftp://members.aol.com/olefirest1/paperfly.jpg
This is a paper model of a Firefly. This is great to experiment with
paint
schemes. It will really fly too! Click on image to get the full size
file,
save it to disk, then print with a utility that provides a "fit to
page"
option. It is best to use card stock if you want to fly it.
Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 377
Schenectady, NY http://members.aol.com/olefiresta
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| Subject: | Re: Uv protection |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
One possible difference ...the MiniMax is wood, so doesn't flex like
fabric coverings. I wonder if that would be enf difference for the no
cracking? Or, is the Sherwin Williams stuff good for fabric too?
I put UV protection in the color coat of my polytone. I have not used
a silver (PolySpray) coat. Kolb and the old polyfiber people used to
recommend that, and the new polyfiber people are fine with the idea,
although it isn't their first pick for getting the best finish
possible. I figure I'm saving a couple pounds and some labor. Hmmm,
thinking out loud, I almost wish I had put the silver on, as I have it
just sitting in the garage anyway.
-Ben
do not archive
--- herbgh@juno.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
>
>
> Kolbers
> I had an intersting conversation with a PHD ,who works for Eastman
> Chemicals in East Tenn., a few days ago. When the conversation got
> around to uv protection; he was quite surprised to discover that such
> protection on fabric airplanes uses coats of "aluminum paint" to
> do
> the job. His point being that excellent(he called it near absolute)
> uv
> protection is available in the clear coat that goes over base coat
> colors in modern auto's. I was distracted and did not get to ask
> about
> plasticizers and such. Food for thought! I think that TNK uses auto
> paints and they tend to crack after a while?
>
> I have a 5 year old mini max that was painted this way and except
> for
> hangar rash I have not seen any cracks develop in it.
> Sherwin-Williams
> Ultra 7000. Applied over poly brush I think. So slick and shiny
> that it
> looks like mono cote! I did not build or paint it by the way.
> Herb
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Kolbs in Ontario |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Otta" <fotta@rogers.com>
Hi All,
I am interested in purchasing an ultralight and would like to get a ride in
a Kolb. Does anyone know where I might might accomplish this in Ontario
(specifically around Toronto)? I am hoping to find an instructor or someone
who will in return for reasonable payment show me what a Kolb feels like to
fly in.
..................................
F. Otta
Toronto, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Ontario |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
Go 200 miles south and I can probably get you a ride in a MK111 and if you
wish to make a purchase I am selling my original Twinstar. I live just
outside Windsor right on the U.S. border.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Otta" <fotta@rogers.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbs in Ontario
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Otta" <fotta@rogers.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am interested in purchasing an ultralight and would like to get a ride
in
> a Kolb. Does anyone know where I might might accomplish this in Ontario
> (specifically around Toronto)? I am hoping to find an instructor or
someone
> who will in return for reasonable payment show me what a Kolb feels like
to
> fly in.
>
> ..................................
> F. Otta
> Toronto, Ontario
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
Take your time and use a bubble level. If you use a smart level you will go
crazy trying to get every thing down to the nearest minute or second.
----- Original Message -----
From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
<ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: rig wings.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
>
> All
> I am nearing the wing alignment and attachment to the cage of my MK III X
kit.
> I have read and reread the building manual and have a few questions. I
plan
> on calling the factory to clear up some nagging concerns I have. Any
lessons
> learned out there? Any and all tidbits of info on how to proceed will be
appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Jim Ballenger
>
>
> on my first build i followed the plans exactly.... when i rolled into a
30 to 45 deg bank and let go of the stick the bank angle would increase....
( negitive roll stability ) when i rebuilt i doubled the dihedrial, when
put into a bank and let of the stick the bank stays the same.... ( netrual
roll stability ) I am glad i made the change.
>
> boyd
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: up and away (again) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I had the brochure here yesterday but can't find it now. I think Ken
Feckler is going. Some other guys with a firefly also. If you know those
people I will probably see you there tomorrow. Try a web search for Michigan
ultralight flyers or something like that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: up and away (again)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick & Martha Neilsen"
<NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
> Woody
>
> Do you have any information on that fly-in in Michigan.
> I haven't heard anything about it or even were it is.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIII
>
>
> <them. Maybe this weekend I will take it up for a flight and see if it
> works.
> Should be going to a michigan fly in on Sat. Hope to see some list members
> there.>
>
>
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