---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/28/03: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:30 AM - Re: Kolb FS gap seals.... (ronnie wehba) 2. 04:34 AM - Re: Question on cuyuna (ronnie wehba) 3. 05:24 AM - Re: Kolb FS gap seals.... (Richard Pike) 4. 05:49 AM - Re: Kolb FS gap seals.... (Bob Bean) 5. 06:35 AM - Trip (Larry Bourne) 6. 08:22 AM - Update on "Miss B" Mark III - cracked starter cover (Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious) 7. 02:27 PM - Re: Update on "Miss B" Mark III - cracked starter (Richard Pike) 8. 02:59 PM - Re: Update on "Miss B" Mark III - cracked starter cover (SGreenpg@aol.com) 9. 04:04 PM - Re: Question on cuyuna (Mid-State Sandblasting) 10. 04:19 PM - Re: Question on cuyuna (ronnie wehba) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:43 AM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb FS gap seals.... ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" don't know if this is of help or it is used just on a ultrastar, on mine the fabric is glued onto the wings and has zippers to hold it together in the middle,2 zippers, one from the top from rear,forward around the leading edge to the tubing structure, the other one comes from the bottom back the the tubing structure. it is tight and very secure. hope maybe this is of help!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb FS gap seals.... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com > > In a message dated 7/27/03 7:05:54 PM Central Standard Time, > beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes: > > << After my disgusting nylon episode, ended up building a new gap seal out of > .025 aluminum... went ahead and put one inch industrial velcro all the way > along the outboard edges, but also rivited on four aluminum brackets... one > to each of the four corners of the TRAILING edges of the seal ... I hook two > criss-crossed H.D. bungee cords back back around the main spar attach > structure to hold it in place with the four trailing edge brackets...it > really screws the thing down, yet is pretty easy to work with each time I > unfold the airplane to fly it... so far, so good... and it is light, cheap > and looks OK... almost like a real airplane part.... (after painting to > match the leading edge trim)... > > Worth what you paid fer it... good luck... (never turn yer back on > velcro...) > Beauford, The Aluminum Butcher of Brandon, FL > FF #076 > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > Bill, > > I was going to make an alum wing gap seal, untill I got to looking at the > instructions from brs. They say I have to use fabric ,due to the fact , that > the rocket could have trouble going through lexan or alum. I have the soft > pack. Guess I will have to use the fabric unless someone has another method that > BRS feels is Kosher. In a few days, I will get a chance to look at the > factory firefly, the Lord willin . > > Ed (In Houston) > > Do Not Archive > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:36 AM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question on cuyuna BAYES_20, ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" thanks don. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question on cuyuna > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > > Ronnie...remember..on that Mikuni...the screw is an AIR screw...not a fuel > screw...and turning it in means less air...RICHER fuel!!! > > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > Don Gherardini- > FireFly 098! > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:06 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb FS gap seals.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike At 11:31 PM 7/27/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com > > I was going to make an alum wing gap seal, untill I got to looking at the >instructions from brs. They say I have to use fabric ,due to the fact , that >the rocket could have trouble going through lexan or alum. I have the soft >pack. Guess I will have to use the fabric unless someone has another >method that >BRS feels is Kosher. In a few days, I will get a chance to look at the >factory firefly, the Lord willin . > > Ed (In Houston) > > Do Not Archive I am using an old Second Chantz softpack chute and I was able to use an aluminum gapseal by making a hinged door where the chute needs to come out. The door is as wide as the chute, has a piano hinge at the front, and is retained across the back and sides just tight enough to hold it in place in flight, but it will pop open if the chute is fired. If there is any interest, I can add some pictures & details to my web page. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:07 AM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb FS gap seals.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean Hmmmm, a center section made of spandex and zippers???? You find the Joe Boxer logo everywhere these days. -BB do not archive ronnie wehba wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" > >don't know if this is of help or it is used just on a ultrastar, on mine the >fabric is glued onto the wings and has zippers to hold it together in the >middle,2 zippers, one from the top from rear,forward around the leading >edge to the tubing structure, the other one comes from the bottom back the >the tubing structure. it is tight and very secure. hope maybe this is of >help!! >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb FS gap seals.... > > > > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com >> >>In a message dated 7/27/03 7:05:54 PM Central Standard Time, >>beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes: >> >><< After my disgusting nylon episode, ended up building a new gap seal >> >> >out of > > >> .025 aluminum... went ahead and put one inch industrial velcro all the >> >> >way > > >> along the outboard edges, but also rivited on four aluminum brackets... >> >> >one > > >> to each of the four corners of the TRAILING edges of the seal ... I hook >> >> >two > > >> criss-crossed H.D. bungee cords back back around the main spar attach >> structure to hold it in place with the four trailing edge brackets...it >> really screws the thing down, yet is pretty easy to work with each time I >> unfold the airplane to fly it... so far, so good... and it is light, >> >> >cheap > > >> and looks OK... almost like a real airplane part.... (after painting to >> match the leading edge trim)... >> >> Worth what you paid fer it... good luck... (never turn yer back on >> velcro...) >> Beauford, The Aluminum Butcher of Brandon, FL >> FF #076 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> Bill, >> >> I was going to make an alum wing gap seal, untill I got to looking at >> >> >the > > >>instructions from brs. They say I have to use fabric ,due to the fact , >> >> >that > > >>the rocket could have trouble going through lexan or alum. I have the >> >> >soft > > >>pack. Guess I will have to use the fabric unless someone has another >> >> >method that > > >>BRS feels is Kosher. In a few days, I will get a chance to look at the >>factory firefly, the Lord willin . >> >> Ed (In Houston) >> >> Do Not Archive >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:07 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Kolb-List: Trip --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Leaving Duluth, MN on Monday morning, and going thru the north part of Wisconsin, then into Michigan's UP by mid-week or so. Should be in Niagara Falls in about a week. Decided not to hit OSH....................my back, knees and feet don't hurt for the 1st time in years, and I'm enjoying the relief. Fast Movin' Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:03 AM PST US From: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" Subject: Kolb-List: Update on "Miss B" Mark III - cracked starter cover --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" Folks, While doing my preflight I noticed a very significant crack in an old weld in the aluminum housing that holds the starter gear. I also found a hairline crack on the starter cover plate. I'm checking with the first builder for an explanation of the original weld. When I removed the starter cover plate the piece originally welded fell off in my hand. It appears that the weld had a lot of air in it as there were lots of pock marks that seemed to indicate a poor weld. My plan is to remove the engine and take it to a Rotax Repair Shop a couple hours south in Springfield, Kentucky for thediagnosis and repairs. I think part of the problem was caused by an over tightened starter cover plate. The bad weld didn't help either. This engine was already mated to this frame when I bought it. I've never disconnected an engine and removed it before. I estimate the weight of the engine to be about 105 lbs. Does that sound about right? Any do's or don'ts about disconnecting everything and pulling the engine off? And it was SUCH a pretty day too. Bob N57MB Bob, Kathleen, and Kory Brocious Tenacity Farm Campbellsburg, Kentucky ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:51 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Update on "Miss B" Mark III - cracked starter cover --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Take the carbs off first, otherwise the temptation to use them to help lift the engine off is overwhelming, and if they pop out, you could drop everything, not to mention messing up the rubber ridge in the carb sockets. Leave the exhaust manifold on, it makes a good handle. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 11:21 AM 7/28/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" > > > >This engine was already mated to this frame when I bought it. I've never >disconnected an engine and removed it before. I estimate the weight of the >engine to be about 105 lbs. Does that sound about right? Any do's or >don'ts about disconnecting everything and pulling the engine off? > > >And it was SUCH a pretty day too. >Bob N57MB >Bob, Kathleen, and Kory Brocious > >Tenacity Farm > >Campbellsburg, Kentucky > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:10 PM PST US From: SGreenpg@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Update on "Miss B" Mark III - cracked starter cover --> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com In a message dated 7/28/03 11:22:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bbrocious@hotmail.com writes: > While doing my preflight I noticed a very significant crack in an old weld > in the aluminum housing that holds the starter gear. I also found a hairline > crack on the starter cover plate. Bob, Is the engine case broken or is it just the starter housing and the cover plate? If it is a mag-end starter on a 582 there are o-rings that are used in the mounting of the starter to the cover. The instructions caution not to mount the starter solid to the cover or it will break. If this is the setup you have and need the documentation for it let me know and I will copy and send it to you. Steven Green N58SG ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:11 PM PST US From: "Mid-State Sandblasting" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question on cuyuna --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mid-State Sandblasting" when I was flying cyunas I always had to goose the throttle and cut back to keep engine from loading up I would do it 3 or 4 times on final Or just cut the throttle back to get a good glide path to the run way. I had a ultrastar and a eagle XL both cyunas would load up on a long final if you just let it idle all the way down to touch down I never could fix it I sold the eagle and put a Subaru on the ultrastar That is the late ultrastar----- Randy P S that engine will get your ultrastar someday, you can count on it Original Message ----- From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Kolb-List: Question on cuyuna > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" > > have a cuyuna II-02 on my US, where on long final lower rpm's I tried to go around,did not need to just was going to ,, the engine bogged down upon advancing the throttle, did this a couple times real slow and it caught. my other toy is a minimax with a A0-84 4-stroke 4-cyl. don't have any problems with it. Ideas, what is this 2-stroke illiterate doing wrong? > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:19:47 PM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question on cuyuna BAYES_20, ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" no it will not , I am gonna put a ao84 on it. just cause!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mid-State Sandblasting" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question on cuyuna > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mid-State Sandblasting" > > when I was flying cyunas I always had to goose the throttle and cut back to > keep engine from loading up I would do it 3 or 4 times on final Or just cut > the throttle back to get a good glide path to the run way. I had a ultrastar > and a eagle XL both cyunas would load up on a long final if you just let it > idle all the way down to touch down I never could fix it I sold the eagle > and put a Subaru on the ultrastar That is the late ultrastar----- > Randy > > P S that engine will get your ultrastar someday, you can count on it > > Original Message ----- > From: "ronnie wehba" > To: > Subject: Kolb-List: Question on cuyuna > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" > > > > have a cuyuna II-02 on my US, where on long final lower rpm's I tried to > go around,did not need to just was going to ,, the engine bogged down upon > advancing the throttle, did this a couple times real slow and it caught. my > other toy is a minimax with a A0-84 4-stroke 4-cyl. don't have any problems > with it. Ideas, what is this 2-stroke illiterate doing wrong? > > > > > >