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1. 12:13 AM - Re: New and Kolb (Dolores and Mike)
2. 04:49 AM - cracked muffler (Airgriff2@aol.com)
3. 06:39 AM - Re: cracked muffler (Richard Pike)
4. 09:12 AM - 447 rotax oil (Kirk Smith)
5. 09:59 AM - Thank you Mr. Pike (Woody)
6. 10:29 AM - New To List Like It Already (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
7. 10:32 AM - Need Gear Leg : (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
8. 11:16 AM - Flight to Oshkosh (John Hauck)
9. 11:46 AM - Oshkosh (Christopher J Armstrong)
10. 11:58 AM - Re: Oshkosh (J.D. Stewart)
11. 12:23 PM - full flap sped (boyd young)
12. 12:27 PM - Re: 447 rotax oil (Bruce n' Kathy)
13. 12:46 PM - Re: Flight to Oshkosh (John Hauck)
14. 01:04 PM - Re: ready to go (John Hauck)
15. 01:08 PM - Re: Hauck tracks (John Hauck)
16. 01:14 PM - Re: Hauck tracks (John Hauck)
17. 01:42 PM - Re: Oshkosh (Christopher J Armstrong)
18. 02:34 PM - Re: Hauck tracks (Kirk Smith)
19. 06:00 PM - Re: full flap sped (Dallas Shepherd)
20. 06:32 PM - head set (bryan green)
21. 06:58 PM - Re: 447 rotax oil (Eugene Zimmerman)
22. 07:03 PM - 3 River Flyin (Andy Bondy)
23. 07:23 PM - Re: 447 rotax oil (ul15rhb@juno.com)
24. 08:58 PM - Re: 447 rotax oil (Richard Pike)
25. 10:07 PM - Re: head set (Mhqqqqq@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: New and Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dolores and Mike" <mikedoloresa@adelphia.net>
Thanks Jack,great info,I appreciate it.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack & Louise Hart" <jbhart@ldd.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New and Kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
> At 09:00 PM 8/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
> >
> >Mike and Dolores.....or was that Dolores and Mike?..
> >
> >Anyway..
> >
> >As you probably already know..the FireFly is highest performing airplane
> >that can be built under 254 lbs.
> >(that I know of)...but really its not 103 legal either because of its
> >speed....
>
> Don & Mike,
>
> I hit the wrong key and sent the reply early.
>
> If you would like to see the calculations required to determine if your
FireFly meets Part 103 regulations, you can view a sample of what I put
together for my FireFly at:
>
> http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/fireflylegal.html
>
> I asked an A&E to sign the front cover, and I carry a copy with me when I
go to air shows. You have to prove that the FireFly meets the requirements,
and this is considered as proof.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Jackson, MO
>
>
> Jack & Louise Hart
> jbhart@ldd.net
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
During rutine preflight I noticed a discoloration from exhaust on the front
of my muffler where the pipe attaches to it. Looking closer, I found it to be
cracked around the outside of the weld. It seemed to be cracked most all the
way around except an 1/8" here and there still holding things together. My 618
is mounted on lord engine mounts which allows it to vibrate quite a bit and
the muffler is mounted with rubber mounts which makes a fairly solid connection
to the plate to which it is mounted. What I'm trying to say is the engine
moves alot and the muffler does not. This may have contributed to the cracking
?
I was wondering if any of you on the list have used more of a shock mount on
your mufflers, or are they all pretty much mounted with the rubber grommets?
The muffler, y, and elbow had benn recoated over the winter, so all the
connections were free and coated with never sieze.
Thanks in advance for any comments.
Fly safe
Bob Griffin
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Subject: | Re: cracked muffler |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
This in not terribly unusual for Rotax mufflers. Several of the locals
(including me) that use a sidemount muffler have eventually had some sort
of cracking along the outside of the cone curve or where it joins the
muffler or both at once. I think this is partly from mounting loads but
more from the pressure pulses going around the curve in the cone and
concentrating repeated stresses along the outside weld as they make the
curve. It was partly for that reason that I went to the rear mounted
(Quicksilver) style pipe on my MKIII. Mounting the muffler closer to the
engine's center of motion reduces vibratory stress on the attachments and
joints, and the straight cone receives less concentrated pulse stresses
along just one weld.
As part of this modification I changed the attachments to eliminate the
standard springs and the worry that they might break and go through the
prop. Hopefully, these mods will improve reliability.
Pictures available at
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg2.htm
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 07:48 AM 8/5/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
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>During rutine preflight I noticed a discoloration from exhaust on the front
>of my muffler where the pipe attaches to it. Looking closer, I found it to be
>cracked around the outside of the weld. It seemed to be cracked most all the
>way around except an 1/8" here and there still holding things
>together. My 618
>is mounted on lord engine mounts which allows it to vibrate quite a bit and
>the muffler is mounted with rubber mounts which makes a fairly
>solid connection
>to the plate to which it is mounted. What I'm trying to say is the engine
>moves alot and the muffler does not. This may have contributed to the
>cracking ?
>I was wondering if any of you on the list have used more of a shock mount on
>your mufflers, or are they all pretty much mounted with the rubber grommets?
>The muffler, y, and elbow had benn recoated over the winter, so all the
>connections were free and coated with never sieze.
>
>Thanks in advance for any comments.
>Fly safe
>Bob Griffin
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Ok guys thanks! Looks like Pennzoil air cooled is my choice. Got a lot to learn
about these 2 strokes now. Kirk
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Subject: | Thank you Mr. Pike |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I did a test flight of the totem pole today and I can not believe the
difference in handling. I took Padre Pikes idea of moving the aileron
control rods inward an inch. Almost feels like power steering. In it's
original configuration I could hardly move the ailerons. Much harder than a
standard MK111. I would recomend this mod to anyone. Perhaps only moving 3/4
inch would be enough. Before you do it be aware that you will have to
lengthen the aileron rods but if you are almost bottoming out at the fitting
then it will just be a matter of unscrewing the fitting a bit.
I noticed another peculiarity on the Club plane last week while doing more
testing. It flys straight. No left turn tendancy. What the heck did I do
wrong Light ailerons and no left turn. It can't be a Kolb :)
Just got back from Osh. I am beginnning to remove my 582 and ready to
install my Jabi. Should be fun.
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Subject: | New To List Like It Already |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
Hi all ... I have a Firestar KX and am kearning more and more ... Any one
have a Video from an in plane camera showing Landing procedures ???
Thanks ... Dave
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
Any one out there have A 1-1/4 Firestar II Leg for sale ....... Thanks ...
Dave
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Subject: | Flight to Oshkosh |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi All:
Got home, after 11 days, from my flight up through
Michigan, the UP, Oshkosh, corn and bean fields of
Illinois, the mountains and trees of Tennessee and
Alabama. My timing, by chance of course, could
not have been better. Ten miles north of Gantt
International Airport I hit rain. Luckily, it was
the tail end of a big thunderstorm and rainstorm
that was on its way south out of my area. Landed
about 1800. That's 6 o'clock PM, National Guard
time.
Departed home at noon 25 Jul. RON Kolb Factory,
London, KY. Flew 10,000 to 12,000 feet ASL for
most of the flight to take advantage of a 10 to 15
mph tailwind, rather than a headwind.
26 Jul, flew to Mentone, Indiana. Stopped briefly
to visit the Popular Rotorcraft Convention. Was a
fish out of water amongst the rotor heads, so
departed for Michigan after a couple hour, or
less, visit.
Found Rick Nielsen's airstrip west of Lansing with
no problem. Wind was blistering out of the west,
so decided to take a rain check on landing there.
After buzzing his house two or three times, got no
response, and headed for Linden, MI.
Had RON'd Linden in my Firestar in 1989. Hoping,
expecting, to see the same airport I had flown out
of, did not happen. The old T hanger I slept in
with my Firestar had been bulldozed. The old
"character" airfield was undergoing a makeover
into a new air park.
Considered staying at Linden for the night. Not a
living soul around. Decided to see if I could
find Kirk "Snuffy" Smith's airstrip. Shortly
thereafter, I found Snuffy's airstrip, where I
RON'd. Snuf was not at home, but it was nearing
darkness, so decided this was a good secure place
to stay amongst the mosquitoes.
A short flight up the road on 27 Jul got me to
Gaylord, where my Primary I instructor pilot in
Army Rotary Wing School lives. He kicked me out
of the next for my very first solo in a Hughes
TH-55 (Mattel Mecherscmidt) helicopter.
28 Jul was a short 60 mile flight to St Ignace,
MI. Upon arrival I discovered John Williamson's
airplane and tent. John was still in the sack,
but a flew orbits above the airport got him out of
the tent and on to his feet.
If you read John's recent email of the trip, you
know the rest of the story as far as Oshkosh.
Just used a protractor to compute the miles we
flew along Whitefish Bay and the south shore of
Lake Superior: approximately 120 miles of low
level, on the deck, mostly over crystal clear
water, flying.
Had a great visit with Scott Trask and friends. A
couple more flights through this AO and I will be
a true "red neck" Uper. I love the area and the
people.
Departed Oshkosh for Sullivan, IL, Sunday about
1550 (2:50 o'clock NG time), ten minutes before
they closed Whitman Field for the daily airshow.
After refueling at my regular stop, Jolliet, IL, I
was on again/off again flying to Sullivan or
home. Depended on how severe the rain storms and
thunder storms were. Dodging in and out, and
around them, I finally got clear sailing into
Shelby County Airport, IL. RON with Don G and
family.
Got up early, drank coffee and BS'd, ate breakfast
and BS'd, flew Don in the Mark III and BS'd, until
we finally got refueled and I was on my way south
again. Stopped off at Lake Barclay State Park
Airport so I could eat a great meal at the lodge.
They have telephone, dial "0" for the desk, and a
van will be there shortly to pick you up and take
you to lunch.
From Lake Barclay to Lawrenceville, TN, for fuel.
Then another two hours and I was landing in the
rain at Gant International about 1800.
A great flight, 36 hours total. Aprx'ly 2,700 sm
and 180 gal of fuel (estimate).
Miss P'fer ("P" fer plane) and the ROTAX 912S
performed impeccably the entire flight.
I'm old fashioned and my pictures will take a few
days to get developed. When the get back I will
post for your edification and hopefully, your
enjoyment.
Take care,
john h
Titus, Alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher J Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
I AM Back from Oshkosh as well.
Most interesting things for me were the Ultravair, a 1/3 corvair
ultralight engine. Somewhat similar to a 1/2 VW but lighter and with a
bit more power, but probably a bit more work to do to convert it.
www.ultravair.com
and the 8 cylinder radial cam RADCAM engine being developed by Earthstar
aircraft designer Mark Bierely. It is projected to make 60 HP and weigh
around 65 pounds ready to run. It should have decent fuel burn as
well due to the high piston dwell at top dead center that the cam
profile provides.
http://www.rad-cam.com/
Also a really amusing VTOL craft was on display. I predict a very short
first flight ending in a spectacular upside down landing and massive
carnage. (Well it looks like it is unstable and uncontrollable in hover
anyway)
http://www.amvaircraft.com/
and then there was the startubes that were installed on the rotorway
helicopter engines that did some magic to the fuel vaporization and
improved engine power and reduced fuel flow.
www.startube.com
(this website is locked up right now.... I assume they will fix it when
they get back from Oshkosh.
Got to see one ultralight crash on the road at the north end of the
runway, have not heard how the pilot is, anybody know?
Topher
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" <jstewart@inebraska.com>
Pilot and large passenger walked away. From my vantage point, it looked
like he was mushing the whole way out of the runway. Fortunately, he was
good enough to plant it on the road instead of the house on one side and the
vehicles on the other side.
Did you see the factory CGS Hawk break its gear and finish its landing
on
its belly minutes after the first crash? Chuck was pretty torqued that the
demo pilot didn't use flaps for that landing.
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports
http://www.ultrafunairsports.com
FlyChallenger E-mail list and Website Administrator
http://challenger.inebraska.com
TitanAircraft e-mail list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Titanaircraft/
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher J Armstrong"
> <tophera@centurytel.net>
>
>
> I AM Back from Oshkosh as well.
>
> Got to see one ultralight crash on the road at the north end of the
> runway, have not heard how the pilot is, anybody know?
>
> Topher
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Raeburn <raeburn@snowhill.com>
I have a Kolb Mk III (582).
Does anyone know the max. speed for flying with the flaps fully extended?
===============================================
i asked kolb the same question and was told that if you could pull the
handel it is safe to fly. as for me i generaly fly at 70 with full flaps.
boyd
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Subject: | Re: 447 rotax oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce n' Kathy" <n3nrr@erols.com>
You mean I cant use wall mart marine any more? Jus KIdding! I really
have yet to have anyone explain the major diffence, but if someone has
can they send off list,, NO More SEAFOAM!!!!!
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Subject: | Re: Flight to Oshkosh |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Ya'll:
Guess you know I am back by the one msg I have
posted with all the typos. I think it might be
faster to proof read than go back and correct all
the errors.
Anyhow, I was poking a little fun at our NG boys
(I started my military career in the Florida NG
while in High School) and ended up with an error
in my time. No problem. It is not important.
Have fun and try to see if you can interpret what
I really meant.................and find all the
typos. :-)
Take care,
john h
(Still recuperating from all the fun I had at
OSH. Heading for the couch and a well deserved
nap.)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> john hooooooowwwwww caaaaaaannnnnn this beeeeeeeeeee..
>
> did you install a coffee drip system on the 912s.... ;-)
>
> boyd
Boyd/All:
Boyd pokes fun at me because, after sharing meals
for three days at Monument Valley, he knows how
much I appreciate my morning coffee, lunch coffee,
afternoon coffee, and, of course, evening coffee.
I don't have a dripolator on the 912S, but I do
carry a pack stove and Folgers coffee bags. The
system works good and makes good coffee. Usually,
unless weathered in or stranded, I don't go to the
trouble to get out the stove and coffee bags.
I'll fly until I find a pot of good, strong, hot
coffee. Flew from East of Albuquerque to Aztec.
Got a small styrofoam cup of coffee there. Flew
the rest of the way to Monument Valley before I
got the rest of my coffee ration, about 4 hours
flight time. Tough on an old guy..........
john h
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Subject: | Re: Hauck tracks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Went out to the barn yesterday to check things over after getting home from vacation
and found an empty Meal Ready to Eat pack laying on the picnic table.
Kirk
Kirk/All:
Sorry I missed you. But thanks for the use of
your airstrip and the nicely mowed area on the
north west side of the parking pad. I took a
picture of Miss P'fer sitting on your airstrip.
Will post as soon as I get the film to town and
get the prints back.
Thanks again for use of your campground.
BTW: You have nice neighbors. They were very
interested in my airplane. I got to meet the VN
Vet who lost his eyesight during the war. I think
it was a very admirable thing for you to construct
a running track so he could jog by himself. I
unique idea, setup, and I know it took a lot of
work to complete. I also know that he truly
enjoys the freedom of running on his own with no
outside assistance. Good work!
john h
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Subject: | Re: Hauck tracks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> More Hauck Tracks....
>
> This morning I said goodbye
> Don Gherardini-
Don/All:
You are more than welcome for the intro flight in
my MK III. It is always a pleasure to fly someone
who is genuinely interested in the airplane and
how it flies.
I wish you would post a picture of my new friend
Bailey, a huge Chocolate Lab with a heart of
gold. Bailey's job, among perimeter defense and
home security, is to go out to the mail box, by
himself, and fetch the morning paper. You will
never see a big giant of a dog so happy to perform
his morning mission. Bailey and I agreed that he
could come live with me, but he had to decline
because he is afraid of heights and would not get
in the airplane. Xin loi!
I did have a good flight yesterday. Made it home
with only three op stops, one for fuel, one for
lunch, and :-) one for me..........
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher J Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Pilot and large passenger walked away. From my vantage point,
it looked
like he was mushing the whole way out of the runway. Fortunately, he
was
good enough to plant it on the road instead of the house on one side and
the
vehicles on the other side.
Did you see the factory CGS Hawk break its gear and finish its
landing on
its belly minutes after the first crash? Chuck was pretty torqued that
the
demo pilot didn't use flaps for that landing.
I was on my bike headed out the gate and heard it then turned around to
see it. Took a picture if anybody is interested. Watched the emergency
guys for a few minutes and then headed down to the forums to here Burt
Rutan talk. Missed the hawk splat. The previous day there was a trike
on an amphibious boat that did a roll over. That plane head a coaxial
counter rotating prop on it on a 582 engine. Took a picture if anybody
is interested. Not sure what the point is of having two props on one
engine but may increase static thrust a bit. They have a web site:
www.ramphosusa.com
Topher
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Subject: | Re: Hauck tracks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
John,
Sure wish I'd been here to meet you and Miss P-fer. Got home the next
afternoon. You're more than welcome. The little travel trailer is there to
use also but I noticed the cushions were out of it. Sorry the runway was
such high weeds, had been gone for 4 weeks. Looking forward to getting that
pic of Miss P-fer sitting on my runway......:o) Kirk
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Subject: | Re: full flap sped |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dallas Shepherd" <cen23954@centurytel.net>
I had my Mark 111, w/582, marked at indicated 70mph, or below.
Dallas Shepherd
Norfork, Arkansas
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From: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: full flap sped
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Raeburn <raeburn@snowhill.com>
I have a Kolb Mk III (582).
Does anyone know the max. speed for flying with the flaps fully extended?
===============================================
i asked kolb the same question and was told that if you could pull the
handel it is safe to fly. as for me i generaly fly at 70 with full flaps.
boyd
.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Hey guys I'm looking for a head set and push to talk button (for stick) I have
an Icom, what and where do you recommend?
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
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Subject: | Re: 447 rotax oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Richard Pike wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
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> So - you like it better than prune juice & Metamucil?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
The preacher's way with words calling Klotz and Seafoam a bunch of Bull
Poop :
)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Andy Bondy" <andy.bondy@sympatico.ca>
Rick,
The Fly-in you were asking us (Woody and myself) about at Oshkosh is in Three
Rivers, Mich. on Labour Day weekend.
The url to the info is : http://www.aerosports.org/Docs/who.htm
Andy Bondy
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From: "Rick & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: up and away (again)
: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick & Martha Neilsen"
<NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
:
: Woody
:
: Do you have any information on that fly-in in Michigan.
: I haven't heard anything about it or even were it is.
:
: Rick Neilsen
: Redrive VW powered MKIII
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: <them. Maybe this weekend I will take it up for a flight and see if it
: works.
: Should be going to a michigan fly in on Sat. Hope to see some list members
: there.>
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Subject: | Re: 447 rotax oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:58:00 -0400 Eugene Zimmerman
<eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
> The preacher's way with words calling Klotz and Seafoam a bunch of
> Bull
> Poop
Gene,
Use what you want. I have seen the difference between synthetic oil and
mineral Pennzoil on another 447 in an Original Firestar like mine.
My 447 will continue using Klotz synthetic with an occasional Seafoam
treatment. No doubt about it.
I like the idea of it running reliably well for many years to come :)
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar
16 years flying it
The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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Subject: | Re: 447 rotax oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
No, No, Grasshopper!
It is not Bull Poop we seek, it is regularity...
Which reminds me, I need to add a little Seafoam...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Do Not Archive
At 09:58 PM 8/5/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
><eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
>
>Richard Pike wrote:
> >
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
> >
> > So - you like it better than prune juice & Metamucil?
> >
> > Richard Pike
> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
>
>The preacher's way with words calling Klotz and Seafoam a bunch of Bull
>Poop :
>)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
I got something called lightspeed. it came with a patch for a push to talk.
I got
the momentary button (the push to talk button) at radio shack and put it in
myself.
it works great. my icom is a icom sport.
mark
southern mn
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