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1. 03:25 AM - Re: Flying? Maybe? A Kolb. (Jim Ballenger)
2. 05:42 AM - one step fwd/one back (Bob Bean)
3. 05:56 AM - Re: Lar in NE TEnn. (Larry Bourne)
4. 12:30 PM - New Engine for FireStar (Ken W Korenek)
5. 12:47 PM - Re: New Engine for FireStar (John Hauck)
6. 12:49 PM - Re: New Engine for FireStar (ronnie wehba)
7. 03:05 PM - Fuselage Tube Support - For Trailer (Jim O'Day)
8. 03:07 PM - Re: Flying? Maybe? A Kolb. (johnjung@compusenior.com)
9. 03:23 PM - 447 regulator (Kirk Smith)
10. 04:30 PM - Traveling (Larry Bourne)
11. 04:30 PM - Re: one step fwd/one back (Larry Bourne)
12. 06:56 PM - Kolb list trackware/trojans/data mining (Richard Pike)
13. 07:41 PM - Re: Kolb list trackware/trojans/data mining (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
14. 08:00 PM - Re: Kolb list trackware/trojans/data mining (Don Gherardini)
15. 08:10 PM - FireFlys Maiden Flight! (Don Gherardini)
16. 08:19 PM - Re: FireFlys Maiden Flight! (John Hauck)
17. 08:36 PM - Re: New Engine for FireStar (Ken W Korenek)
18. 08:53 PM - Re: FireFlys Maiden Flight! (DAquaNut@aol.com)
19. 09:00 PM - Re: New Engine for FireStar (John Hauck)
20. 09:15 PM - Re: New Engine for FireStar ()
21. 09:16 PM - Firefly. (June Daum)
22. 09:37 PM - Re: FireFlys Maiden Flight! (Don Gherardini)
23. 10:18 PM - Re: Fuselage Tube Support - For Trailer (June Daum)
24. 10:36 PM - Re: FireFlys Maiden Flight! (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Flying? Maybe? A Kolb. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
David
I have a FS KXP with a rotax 447 that flies great. I owned a minimax and
an old taylorcraft, both taildraggers, in the 90's. The FS is very docile
as a taildragger. I fly out of Chesapeake. Where are you located?
Jim Ballenger
Flying a FS KXP 447
Building a MK III X
Virginia Beach, VA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David & Maria Lumgair" <dlummy@visi.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Flying? Maybe? A Kolb.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David & Maria Lumgair" <dlummy@visi.net>
>
> Well gentlemen - I'm new to the list - A good friend has gottem me
involved with the "Kolb Thing" as he calls it. His is an older firefly, and
hasn't been off the ground in two years. The fuel system was a mess, so we
went through the whole thing - engine and all. We've both taxi tested it
and we'll be putting it in the air on the next calm day we have off. We're
in Virginia - so lately the weather hasn't been conducive to test flights,
thunderstorms predicted every day for about the last 10. I have alot of GA
experience and about 20 flights in an Aventura UL - any tips for my
transition. I have talked to many Kolb fliers and they all tell me to
throttle it to the ground and no problem - then today a fella - who flies
Thundergulls told me they ground loop easily and to be careful. Never heard
this before but thought I'd poll the masses.
>
> Do Not Archive
>
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| Subject: | one step fwd/one back |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Group, resuming work on the bird after a little break, reworking the
ignition
that mysteriously quit (a plane that won't start sure is safe).
-Fiddling with
that, I notice a wasp dragging grass blades into the prop hub. One of the
holes with a neat mud plug in it. Oh well, better working on the engine
without that spinning anyway. Guess I'll put a dab of silicone seal on the
open holes after I get it back together. Then to look at every other orifice
that could give me a problem. Bugs have been bad in this unusual summer,
like Alabama got transplanted up here. They like pitot tubes too. -BB
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| Subject: | Re: Lar in NE TEnn. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
But, I didn't knooooowww....................... If I were clairvoyant, I
sure wouldn't be working for a living. You sure live in nice country.
I'm starting to feel more in tune now, even thru the sabotage. Bob Bean's
was a good visit, and he's got a great place in upstate New York, but 1st he
tried to sink the truck in the grass in the lower forty, then tryed to drown
me in a storm, and to get my mind off that, he paraded beautiful, scantily
clad ladies in front of me. Made it hard to concentrate. On top of all
that, he introduced me to Wegman's Markets, and I've never seen the like.
Best produce and deli departments I've ever seen. Then, they cancelled the
boat ride after all. At Bob Noyer's in , we had a great visit, a fantastic
Italian dinner, went out to the airport to visit the FireFly, and do some
sightseeing, then all relaxed in his huge family room, watched the game, and
played with computers. Nice evening. Tonight I'm at the home of Mike &
Dixie Shackleford in West Virginia, and it was an interesting drive across
WV. They have a very nice place on a mountain top, and Dixie is well into
feeding a few more pounds onto pore ol' Lar. Urp. Monday, I'll backtrack
to Baltimore, and have some work done on the truck, then down the
Chesapeake, and south thru Kitty Hawk, and so on. Spoiled
Rotten Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Lar in NE TEnn.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> > right. Anyway, I missed Detroit (and Windsor) by going thru Port Huron
> into
> > Ontario. Lar
>
> You must have came across I 69 and if you did you were within 10 miles on
my
> humble little mosquito infested campground. I'm hurt.......:-( Kirk
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | New Engine for FireStar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken W Korenek <kenkorenek@charter.net>
Hey Kolbers!
Got a question for you guys. I'm thinking about a new engine for
my FireStar so that I can keep up with John Williamson's Kolbra.
Any body ever thought about putting a Rotax 582 on a FireStar?
I'll bet that extra 15 HP would really do some good! I have the gross
weight to spare...
I always heard that the structure couldn't handle the torque, but
now I find that the upper tube that supports the engine and absorbs the
torque is the same for all the Kolb models- FireStar has the same cage
top that the Mk3 and Kolbra use. The lower cage structure is a bit
different but the inboard wing attach and drag strut geometry is also
the same.
A 582 with a 3:1 gearbox would allow a bigger prop to turn slower-
quieter and better performing.
I've never heard of a 582 on an FS, but what would be the pitfalls?
You guys have any opinions on this?
Ken Korenek
St Louis, Mo
Firestar # 438
95 hours
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine for FireStar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Got a question for you guys. I'm thinking about a new engine for
> my FireStar so that I can keep up with John Williamson's Kolbra.
> Ken Korenek
Ken/All:
If I wanted to cruise with John W's Kolbra, I
would buy a Kolbra or an equivilent aircraft that
was designed to cruise in the 80 to 90 mph range.
Check VNE on your Firestar. I don't know what it
is, but bet it is less than a MK III or Kolbra.
Firestar has a 7 main rib wing. I think when you
got on the Kolb List you had a 5 rib wing. Went
through a lot of discussion on your decision
making process to come up with the 7 rib wings.
I broke my 5 main rib wings.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine for FireStar |
BAYES_30, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
have you thought about a AO84 surplus engine??
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/surplusengines?yguid=138616889
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken W Korenek" <kenkorenek@charter.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: New Engine for FireStar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken W Korenek <kenkorenek@charter.net>
>
> Hey Kolbers!
>
>
> Got a question for you guys. I'm thinking about a new engine for
> my FireStar so that I can keep up with John Williamson's Kolbra.
>
> Any body ever thought about putting a Rotax 582 on a FireStar?
> I'll bet that extra 15 HP would really do some good! I have the gross
> weight to spare...
>
> I always heard that the structure couldn't handle the torque, but
> now I find that the upper tube that supports the engine and absorbs the
> torque is the same for all the Kolb models- FireStar has the same cage
> top that the Mk3 and Kolbra use. The lower cage structure is a bit
> different but the inboard wing attach and drag strut geometry is also
> the same.
>
>
> A 582 with a 3:1 gearbox would allow a bigger prop to turn slower-
> quieter and better performing.
>
>
> I've never heard of a 582 on an FS, but what would be the pitfalls?
>
>
> You guys have any opinions on this?
>
>
> Ken Korenek
> St Louis, Mo
>
>
> Firestar # 438
> 95 hours
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuselage Tube Support - For Trailer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim O'Day" <oday@cableone.net>
I need some more help. Pictures are definitely worth a thousand words. I
am ready to move my FSII out of the shop and into mobile hanger (trailer).
I would like to receive pictures of the "fuselage tube pedestal support" any
of you are using. I have a temporary one I made, works fine with the wings
off. Installing it with folded wings seems like it could be a challenge.
Any advice, pictures ... very appreciated. Thanks.
Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
oday@cableone.net
My FS is just about finished, yea!
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| Subject: | Re: Flying? Maybe? A Kolb. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "johnjung@compusenior.com" <johnjung@compusenior.com>
David and Group,
--->
then today a fella - who flies Thundergulls told me they (Kolbs) ground loop easily
and to be careful.<--
We have a number of Titan/Thundergull pilots flying in the Midwest. They
show up at distant fly-ins almost as often as Kolbs. I have polled them
about why they chose a Thundergull over a Kolb, and the usual answer is
that they like the ground handling of a nose wheel plane. They worry
about ground loops and nosing over. In my opinion, some
Titan/Thundergull pilots have an inordinate fear of taildraggers, and
don't understand that Kolbs are not like most taildraggers.
John Jung
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Group,
Solved my regulator problem. Regulator was ok but is the type that needs a load
to regulate. I have no battery and the only thing for a load was the hobbs
meter. Not enough load so I added a 25 ohm 20 watt load resistor and wazzoo! All
working ok now. Thanks for the help all..........Kirk
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Seems to me there's a Kolb Lister who lives in or near Houma, LA. Could you email
me off List, please ?? T'anks. Lar.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: one step fwd/one back |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Bob's plane is very well done, with some very good ideas that show a lot of
thought and effort. I'm VERY interested to see how it goes when the big
moment comes. Good Luck, Bob. Lar. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: one step fwd/one back
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Group, resuming work on the bird after a little break, reworking the
> ignition
> that mysteriously quit (a plane that won't start sure is safe).
> -Fiddling with
> that, I notice a wasp dragging grass blades into the prop hub. One of the
> holes with a neat mud plug in it. Oh well, better working on the engine
> without that spinning anyway. Guess I'll put a dab of silicone seal on
the
> open holes after I get it back together. Then to look at every other
orifice
> that could give me a problem. Bugs have been bad in this unusual summer,
> like Alabama got transplanted up here. They like pitot tubes too. -BB
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Kolb list trackware/trojans/data mining |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
All of us get spam, but I just got some that persuaded me that our Kolb
list has been compromised. Maybe some of you are aware of a new trick
called trackware or "data mining" (as opposed to viruses, not the same
thing) wherein certain ads embed data into your system and send back info
that is used to send out ads and spam. Just before I deleted this one spam
message, I noticed the addresses that were carbon'ed along with mine. Some
of them are Kolber's, some are not, and I know it didn't originate with me,
because I don't know some of these people, they are not in my address book.
But I am certain these came from someone who uses our list, or is part of
it. Note:
gong101@shtel.net.cn, AJoselson@cs.com, shchens@sh163a.sta.net.cn,
johnjung@compusenior.com, Airgriff2@aol.com, sudlow77@earthlink.net,
rwpike@charter.net, rwehba@wtxs.net, bwr000@yahoo.com, 84fs377@buffalo.com
Somebody has figured out how to data mine somebody on the Kolb list and is
getting our names for their spam list.
Let me suggest a free download program called Ad-Aware that sniffs out
these Trojans that sends data from your system to a third party. It is at
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
Click on their Ad-aware tab, on the left side of their page, it is a
freeware download. After you run it one time, you will be amazed at the
junk it will find hidden in your computer.
I realize that this is not Kolb related, except that none of us on the Kolb
list want any of this spam, and we do not want our Kolb list to become a
means to an end of spreading more spam around to each other.
Sorry to have to take up the bandwidth, but thought it necessary.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb list trackware/trojans/data mining |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
I use it its great ... Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb list trackware/trojans/data mining |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
I use Adaware once a week....it always finds a few hidden programs that are
running recording and sending data to who knows who..makes me mad as heck...
Richard is giving good advice men...download and run Adaware , its a great
program.
the first time i ran it it discoverd something like 65 programs that were
sending info out ...so be ready!
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| Subject: | FireFlys Maiden Flight! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Mission accomplished!
Today I flew the Firefly...or "FlagFly" as some of you have started to call
her!....WOW...what a beauty...perfect handleing....no bad habits , Just as
you told me John Hauck! I had trim tabs ready to mount....but I threw em
back in the toolbox as it just does not need any! First time was gonna be a
few crowhops..but it cliombed out so dang fast...I just went around...landed
a tad hard with one bounce..went around again and 2nd landing was a little
better....3rd landing I greased her in..probably lucky, but dang I was so
proud I stopped and taxi'd over to the hanger where the lookers were and got
out to see if anything had loosened up...and of course to hear the
compliments from the gallery....back up for a little cruise...Airspeed
indicator is way off and thats the only gripe I could write down...
all you Kolber's were right, this is one Dandy little airplane...special
thanks to John H for the check ride, and all of you fellas for the sharing
of knowledge that has no doubt contributed to a perfect first flight!
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: FireFlys Maiden Flight! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Mission accomplished!
> Don Gherardini-
Don/Gang:
Good news! Congratulations.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine for FireStar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken W Korenek <kenkorenek@charter.net>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>
>Check VNE on your Firestar. I don't know what it
>is, but bet it is less than a MK III or Kolbra.
>
>
>
Vne is 90 MPH. I don't intend to go above that speed.
The question is about structural capability. Are the cages on
Firestars the same as MK3's and Kolbrs's in the area of the engine
mounting tube?
If so, then why can't a 582 be safely fitted to a FireStar?
Steve posted a response about a conversation with Dennis Souder that
vibration was a bigger concern than reacting the torque. I'm not sure
I understand that at all. A larger diameter prop, properly balanced
and turning slower will produce less vibration and the 582 under the
load of that prop will be smoother as well.
As far as Vne goes, I've got a sports car that will do 160 mph, but I
don't go over the Vne of 70 mph. But, I sure get to 70 fast. A 582
would sure make a FireStar a crotch-rocket. It would get to Vne
quickly, but I still wouldn't exceed it.
I'm toying with the "experimental" aspect of this hobby...
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: FireFlys Maiden Flight! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 8/10/03 9:11:00 PM Central Standard Time,
donghe@one-eleven.net writes:
<<
all you Kolber's were right, this is one Dandy little airplane...special
thanks to John H for the check ride, and all of you fellas for the sharing
of knowledge that has no doubt contributed to a perfect first flight!
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098 >>
Don,
Congratulations. Glad to here it went so well on that first flight. As
soon as I do my weight & balance on my Firefly and figure what gap seal to
install & install my BRS I will be approching engine start up. It is comforting
to
here what you had to say about your Firefly's good manners. I intend to get
some time in a Mark 11 or 111. Please keep us posted on future flights and
adjustments. Sure hope I get mine flying by the fall.
Ed (in Houston)
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine for FireStar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The question is about structural capability. Are the cages on
> Firestars the same as MK3's and Kolbrs's in the area of the engine
> mounting tube?
> If so, then why can't a 582 be safely fitted to a FireStar?
> I'm toying with the "experimental" aspect of this hobby...
> Ken
Ken/All:
I think you have already talked yourself into the
582 installation. Why ask us if it can safely
fitted. You are asking, as far as I know,
amateurs, and not professional engineers and
designers.
I think HP on airplanes is in the same category
with aerobatics. What is sensational and exciting
today, becomes common place tomorrow. From my own
experience with HP, I started out with 65 HP, then
80 and now 100 (actually 95 usable since I do not
pitch to turn prop more than 5,500 rpm). You'll
most likely get accustomed to flying the 65 hp
engine quickly. Tomorrow it will be normal as
stress, turbulence encounters, and airspeed
increases, unknowingly.
Not telling you what to do. Just thinking out loud.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine for FireStar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Ken,
Why not just run a 3.47 to 1 C gearbox on a 503 with a 72 inch two blade
such as a Powerfin or Warp Drive. Or maybe even an in-flight adjustable IVO.
This would maximize your performance without the added complexities of a
liquid cooled engine. Would also keep it in the Homer recommended power
range. The 503 powered Firestars that I have seen seem to really haul the
mail.
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken W Korenek <kenkorenek@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Engine for FireStar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken W Korenek <kenkorenek@charter.net>
>
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >Check VNE on your Firestar. I don't know what it
> >is, but bet it is less than a MK III or Kolbra.
> >
> >
> >
> Vne is 90 MPH. I don't intend to go above that speed.
>
> The question is about structural capability. Are the cages on
> Firestars the same as MK3's and Kolbrs's in the area of the engine
> mounting tube?
>
>
> If so, then why can't a 582 be safely fitted to a FireStar?
>
>
> Steve posted a response about a conversation with Dennis Souder that
> vibration was a bigger concern than reacting the torque. I'm not sure
> I understand that at all. A larger diameter prop, properly balanced
> and turning slower will produce less vibration and the 582 under the
> load of that prop will be smoother as well.
>
> As far as Vne goes, I've got a sports car that will do 160 mph, but I
> don't go over the Vne of 70 mph. But, I sure get to 70 fast. A 582
> would sure make a FireStar a crotch-rocket. It would get to Vne
> quickly, but I still wouldn't exceed it.
>
> I'm toying with the "experimental" aspect of this hobby...
>
>
> Ken
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "June Daum" <gjdaum@camano.net>
I"ve just completed a Firefly in which I installed a Hirth 2702 -40 HP engine.
This engine turns slower than a Rotax 447 by 1000 RPM. It has a 2.59 reduction
gear. The engine obviously produces more torque. In taxi tests the airplane
pulls to the right so much that I have to cut the power to stay on the runway.
I have 100 hours on the engne whch I flew in my firestar. I may be getting
too much "P" factor. I would like to hear from anyone who has used the Hirth
2702 in a Fireflyand if they have experienced any problems.
Thanks-- George Daum
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| Subject: | Re: FireFlys Maiden Flight! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Ed, Since you mentioned weight an balance and gap seal..lemme share some
stuff with you..
weight an balance...today before flight test..
with 2.5 gallons of gas and me....
had 225lbs on left main...231 on right main..47 on tailwheel...( something
close to these numbers..I forgot the sheet i used in the hangar when I came
home.so this is memory , but the percentages of chord i remember well
because it cause me some concern.)
figured to 33% of chord...a little aft of what I had hoped for...but within
the 20% to 35% spec.....then I looked at the plans agan and discovered they
used 64 inches for chord...checked with a tape and mine measured
62.5...hmm....re-figured and cam out to 34.7%....dang...I just hate to be on
the edge...so ..crow hops only today....BUT....when it flew out so quick and
climbed so fast..I had to go around....and NOT with a lot of forward stick
either...now I know this does not sound like it should be correct...but this
is how it was...dang thing just flew fine.! So i went around again...and
then again...I am not gonna change a thing for now!
Wing Gap seal
I used .018 stainless with an 3/8ths alum angle rivet to edges underneath to
sit align with wing root sides. velcro'ed down on all edges, and safety
wired from alum angle to cage on rear end of angle. inspiration for this
style of gap seal came from this forums advice.
so Since you are at this stage..I thought I might share this with you..
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tube Support - For Trailer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "June Daum" <gjdaum@camano.net>
Jim..re your question for fuselage tube support for your kolb. I have atilt
trailer that I usedfor ten years for my Firestar.I bolted a piece of 4x4
about 6inches long placed vertically on the plywood trailer bed located
forward of the vertical stabalizer.Use 3or 4lag screws through the plywwod
bedfrom underneath. Now build aplywood box to fit firmly over the 4x4
post.The sides of the box should be about 18 inches highand the top of the
sides 10 to 12 tinches long. Attach a piece of canvas between the sides so
that it hangs down between the sides and a nice saddlefor the fuselage
tube.. To load the airplane the trailer is tilted -- push the airplane up
until the trailer bed levels--set the tail on the ground- now install the
plywood box with the saddle over the stub 4x4-- now lift the tail and roll
the airplane forward to tie down position. Place a piece of foam rubber on
top of the tube and secure with a bungee to screw eyes on the trailer bed .
This setup has worked good for me for 10 yrs.Hope this helps George
Daum
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim O'Day <oday@cableone.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuselage Tube Support - For Trailer
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim O'Day" <oday@cableone.net>
>
> I need some more help. Pictures are definitely worth a thousand words. I
> am ready to move my FSII out of the shop and into mobile hanger (trailer).
> I would like to receive pictures of the "fuselage tube pedestal support"
any
> of you are using. I have a temporary one I made, works fine with the
wings
> off. Installing it with folded wings seems like it could be a challenge.
> Any advice, pictures ... very appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Jim O'Day
> Fargo, ND
> oday@cableone.net
>
> My FS is just about finished, yea!
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFlys Maiden Flight! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 8/10/03 10:38:19 PM Central Standard Time,
donghe@one-eleven.net writes:
<<
Wing Gap seal
I used .018 stainless with an 3/8ths alum angle rivet to edges underneath to
sit align with wing root sides. velcro'ed down on all edges, and safety
wired from alum angle to cage on rear end of angle. inspiration for this
style of gap seal came from this forums advice.
so Since you are at this stage..I thought I might share this with you..
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098 >>
Don,
That Firefly is a beaut. Looks an awful lot like the factory Fly. I had
seen your page before but did not realize you were the one who was building the
plane that was purchased partialy built. Thanks so much for the numbers. It
would be helpful if I knew the total weight so I could compare. Im not sure if
I
can use a light alum sheet with the ballistic chute installed in that area. I
think the chute will have to be able to go through it somehow.
Ed (in Houston)
Firefly 062
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