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1. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: 582 (Woody)
2. 05:49 AM - Re: Noseover Tendancy - Kolb (Woody)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: 582 (John Hauck)
4. 06:00 AM - Re: Noseover Tendancy - Kolb (John Hauck)
5. 06:11 AM - Welding (Jim Hauck)
6. 06:28 AM - 2 strokes (Kirk Smith)
7. 09:07 AM - Re: 2 strokes (Richard Pike)
8. 10:54 AM - adrenaline time (Bob Bean)
9. 11:11 AM - Re: adrenaline time (John Hauck)
10. 11:27 AM - Re: Rotax lighting coil (Jack & Louise Hart)
11. 11:29 AM - Re: adrenaline time (Bob Bean)
12. 11:41 AM - Re: adrenaline time (Larry Bourne)
13. 11:48 AM - Re: Drag strut brace / Quality of parts (Bruce Harrison)
14. 01:10 PM - Re: adrenaline time (Kirk Smith)
15. 01:13 PM - Re: Checking in (Kirk Smith)
16. 01:47 PM - Welding Cage (Mike Pierzina)
17. 01:58 PM - Re: MIG vs TIG (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
18. 01:59 PM - Re: Welding Cage (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
19. 02:32 PM - Re: Rotax lighting coil (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
20. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: MIG vs TIG message of Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:56:19 -0700 (Jim Hauck)
21. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Rotax lighting coil (Bob Bean)
22. 03:26 PM - Re: Trip (Richard Swiderski)
23. 04:34 PM - Re: FireStar II (ZepRep251@aol.com)
24. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: Rotax lighting coil (jerb)
25. 05:46 PM - I-net Service (jerb)
26. 05:48 PM - Re: Drag strut brace / Quality of parts (Ken W Korenek)
27. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: Rotax lighting coil (Bob Bean)
28. 06:20 PM - Re: 2 strokes (Jack & Louise Hart)
29. 06:55 PM - Re: adrenaline time ()
30. 07:09 PM - Re: Trip (Larry Bourne)
31. 07:26 PM - Re: I-net Service (Larry Bourne)
32. 10:34 PM - Re: I-net Service (jerb)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I have a 582 twin rads mounted near the gear box. Never had a problem with
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Cowan" <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 582
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
>
> would like to know if there are any really successfull installations of
the
> 582 with the twin radiators in back or is it better to remount them to the
> front of the engine or is it better to get an aftermarket radiator and rig
> it in front of the engine? Seems the threads I kept hearing were of
> failures and how difficult it is to keep them cool. Are they worth the
> extra horsepower to have to mess with this? I have just aquired a
slingshot
> and have a 582 with an E box and need to mount the water system in a
couple
> of weeks or month. You can email me separate with pics if you would
> respond. I suppose there are applications where they work and not work
> depending on the situation. I think a slingshot would be easier for the
> motor to push through the air compared to a MkIII but what do I know. I
> have checked the archives and there doesnt seem to be a lot out there. I
> need input!! thanks. (I would rather have a BMW 1100 with a C on it but
> what the heck. I dont want to be an engineer or a test pilot in any case.
> Thanks for the response. By the way, mine is number 30, last one the
> factory produced. Got a classic! Ted Cowan, Alabama
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Noseover Tendancy - Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
> A few years ago at Sun and Fun I put the factory
> Fire Fly on its nose. Was a matter of high hp or
> two folks up front.
Must have been a real close and personal friend to get the two of you in
a firefly.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I have a 582 twin rads mounted near the gear box. Never had a problem with
> them. Woody
Woody/All:
Don't guess it is that cool Canadian air that
makes it work because I had the same set up on my
582. Worked as intended.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Noseover Tendancy - Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Must have been a real close and personal friend to get the two of you in
> a firefly. Woody
Woody/All:
Think that may have been my "nose over" problem?
Guess I'm going to have to start proof reading
again. :-)
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Folks;
TIG, MIG and Gas Welding is an acceptable means for welding 4130 steel.
TIG and MIG are preferable over gas. Gas welders with little experience either
over heat the weld and burn all the carbon out of the steel or don't use enough
heat to penetrate the steel. The same can be true with TIG or MIG if the individual
doesn't have the experience in welding.
Tig keeps the molten steel trapped in a bubble of Argon that doesn't allow hydrogen
to enter the molten steel and create brittleness.
Mig welding should be done with insert gas, 75% CO2 and 25% argon. Straight CO2,
allows for a lot of splatter that the mix doesn't. I would never use Flux Core
as a means to weld 4130 as it is easy to get flux inclusion in the weld. Also
too much smoke and it is hard to see the molten puddle of steel and see what
it is doing.
On cages I use MIG and on small pieces and controls I use TIG. Just my preference.
NEVER braze 4130 in any structure that your Butt is depending on.
I rebuilt a pranged Twin Star cage a few years ago after it had been repaired by
an EXPERT. The Expert brazed the repair tubes in.
Jim Hauck
Been learning to weld for 55 years, still learning.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
1. The pilot is descending in a shallow descent at a relatively high airspeed and
throttle partially open (about half way or so). This is very dangerous setting,
the mixture will lean out significantly but it does not necessarily shows
up as too high EGT because the engine is not really producing much power and
remember its not necessarily over the limit EGT but rather the difference between
the piston and cylinder temperature . All three bad conditions are met here
, combustion (piston) temperature is high, cylinder temperature is low (not
much power produced) and low amount of oil entering the engine. Even an engine
that is otherwise well tuned can seize this way.
I recommend to do your descending at only slightly above or at idle rpm at slow
airspeed somewhere between best glide and best sink.
2. Static rpm too high caused by pitch on the prop set too low. Many people seem
to think that if the book for their 503 engine states max hp develops at 6500
, that's what they should set it for (down on the ground), some even believe
the more rpm, the more power they get and use the max rpm number .These numbers
are way too high are very likely to cause very lean mixture conditions in flight,
because when the aircraft is in motion the prop unloads and the rpm will
soar , then in cruise mode with the throttle retarded to keep the rpm in check
very lean running condition is created, this should be indicated by high EGT
but often people don't pay enough attention to these warning signs , and/or
don't realize how dangerous this really is until its too late.
The static rpm should be set well below the max hp rpm and the optimum depends
largely on the speed range of the aircraft, generally the higher the cruise/top
speed the lower the static rpm is set even if that means lower then max hp rpm
in climb mode. Only on very high drag aircraft with very narrow speed range
you can set the static rpm higher so it gets close to max hp in the climb mode
as you will not unload the engine on such an aircraft even when you level off
to cruise.
3. Another potentially bad combination is using very large (diameter / blade area)
prop for a given engine, in which case the pitch must lowered considerable
to bring the engine up to the acceptable RPM. In this case, even when the static
rpm is rather low, the engine load will start dropping very rapidly as soon
as the aircraft start gaining the speed . Only very slow aircraft can use such
a combination successfully , perhaps a special purpose one like a hang glider
tow plane or a powered parachute.
Hope this article makes the list. Would like to hear some comments on it. Seems
to make sense. Kirk
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Slightly overstated, but essentially quite correct. - Except that the first
scenario will show up as high EGT's, and it takes a certain combination of
throttle setting and airspeed to get into the danger zone. But it does need
to be monitored carefully.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 09:28 AM 8/18/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
>1. The pilot is descending in a shallow descent at a relatively high
>airspeed and throttle partially open (about half way or so). This is very
>dangerous setting, the mixture will lean out significantly but it does not
>necessarily shows up as too high EGT because the engine is not really
>producing much power and remember its not necessarily over the limit EGT
>but rather the difference between the piston and cylinder temperature .
>All three bad conditions are met here , combustion (piston) temperature is
>high, cylinder temperature is low (not much power produced) and low amount
>of oil entering the engine. Even an engine that is otherwise well tuned
>can seize this way.
>I recommend to do your descending at only slightly above or at idle rpm at
>slow airspeed somewhere between best glide and best sink.
>
>2. Static rpm too high caused by pitch on the prop set too low. Many
>people seem to think that if the book for their 503 engine states max hp
>develops at 6500 , that's what they should set it for (down on the
>ground), some even believe the more rpm, the more power they get and use
>the max rpm number .These numbers are way too high are very likely to
>cause very lean mixture conditions in flight, because when the aircraft is
>in motion the prop unloads and the rpm will soar , then in cruise mode
>with the throttle retarded to keep the rpm in check very lean running
>condition is created, this should be indicated by high EGT but often
>people don't pay enough attention to these warning signs , and/or don't
>realize how dangerous this really is until its too late.
>The static rpm should be set well below the max hp rpm and the optimum
>depends largely on the speed range of the aircraft, generally the higher
>the cruise/top speed the lower the static rpm is set even if that means
>lower then max hp rpm in climb mode. Only on very high drag aircraft with
>very narrow speed range you can set the static rpm higher so it gets close
>to max hp in the climb mode as you will not unload the engine on such an
>aircraft even when you level off to cruise.
>
>3. Another potentially bad combination is using very large (diameter /
>blade area) prop for a given engine, in which case the pitch must lowered
>considerable to bring the engine up to the acceptable RPM. In this case,
>even when the static rpm is rather low, the engine load will start
>dropping very rapidly as soon as the aircraft start gaining the speed .
>Only very slow aircraft can use such a combination successfully , perhaps
>a special purpose one like a hang glider tow plane or a powered parachute.
>
>
>Hope this article makes the list. Would like to hear some comments on it.
>Seems to make sense. Kirk
>
>
>Do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Guess I can die happy now........once around the pattern, nothing bent.
Must have had an air bubble in the coolant because the temp went too
high to spend any time fiddlin around getting "familiarized". No heavy
wing, tail/nose. It's definitely getting the Richard Pike aileron arm mod.
-nuff for one day. -anonymous do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: adrenaline time |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Guess I can die happy now........once around the pattern, nothing bent.
> Must have had an air bubble in the coolant because the temp went too
> high to spend any time fiddlin around getting "familiarized".
-anonymous
-anonymous/All:
How come it didn't get hot on the ground when you
did your runup?
Glad you survived the bubble and the airplane flies.
Congrats!
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax lighting coil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 10:52 PM 8/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
>Jack,
>The Key West is a shunt regulator according to the manufacturer I spoke
>directly with, a branch of the Titan operation. It's a simples design that
>works but I feel a switcher would be required for a high current output
>alternative due to the changing voltage level and frequency as RPM
>changes. Did you fly it while doing your temperature test or just a burst
>of high power? Did you vary the power loading?
>jerb
>
>At 10:09 AM 8/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>>
Jerb,
I had, at most, a four ampere load, the radio, gps, and strobes. I stuck a the
thermister to an in/out door temperature gage to the back of the regulator and
covered it with kids clay. To keep it in place I wrapped it with a rag and
used some wire ties to keep the whole thing together. I flew with the indicator
held to my leg with masking tape.
The indicator was easy to see, and I watched it on and off during the flight.
Did not see a dramatic change in the surface temperature. I did not expect much
because the unit is not made with cooling fins, so I assumed they were not
needed. I mounted the regulator up under the engine mount support tube, so that
the leads to the alternator are very short.
The strobes had no switch so they would be on any time the engine was running.
The radio and the gps can be turned off, but I leave them on most of the time.
Helps to detect who is coming to my home airport, and this helps me to keep
out of their way.
I am glad to hear that some one communicated directly with Key West about what
type of regulator it is. I have tried off and on to find a number to call, but
I was not successful.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: adrenaline time |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
John, what runup? :) Seriously, two things need to be amended,
the coolant recovery tank is too low and the engine is overpropped.
You never know if it's going to be the same in the air as on the ground.
I've had it stay just fine during ground ops some times and not others,
have to get a little more intimate with my circulatory system.
-With the gusty N wind, uneven patch to plop on and a very narrow
fencerow opening to the strip, I never did see that durn ASI on
short final. Sho is a bouncy little thing. heh heh -BB do not archive
John Hauck wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> > Guess I can die happy now........once around the pattern, nothing bent.
>
>
>>Must have had an air bubble in the coolant because the temp went too
>>high to spend any time fiddlin around getting "familiarized".
>>
>>
> -anonymous
>
>-anonymous/All:
>
>How come it didn't get hot on the ground when you
>did your runup?
>
>Glad you survived the bubble and the airplane flies.
>
>Congrats!
>
>john h
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: adrenaline time |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Good for you, pal. What a feeling, eh ??................must be wore out
from adrenaline now. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: adrenaline time
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Guess I can die happy now........once around the pattern, nothing bent.
> Must have had an air bubble in the coolant because the temp went too
> high to spend any time fiddlin around getting "familiarized". No heavy
> wing, tail/nose. It's definitely getting the Richard Pike aileron arm
mod.
> -nuff for one day. -anonymous do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drag strut brace / Quality of parts |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
If I may ask Ed, what does a complete set of 7-rib wings cost? I may be
doing the same thing in the future.
>From: "Ed Bonsell" <ebonsell@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Drag strut brace / Quality of parts
>Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0700
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Bonsell" <ebonsell@earthlink.net>
>
>Hi All,
>
>I'm building a set of 7 rib wings for my 86 Firestar. About a month ago I
>posted a message saying I had a problem with the quality of parts supplied
>by TNK. Why don't I start at the beginning. I bought all the steel parts
>from TNK. When they arrived I finished off the rough edges and painted them
>with epoxy paint. First the H sections were so far out of square they
>couldn't be used. They had to be sent back.
>
>The inboard wing ribs were next. They too were not square and had to be
>sent back. When the replacements arrived one was ok, the other one had the
>drag strut brace tube welded in at the wrong angle. That went back. The
>replacement had the same problem. The drag strut tube was welded off to the
>side and down from the correct angle but is barely acceptable.
>
>So a month ago I go to install the drag strut and find the legs on the
>short drag strut brace are too long to fit properly and they were welded a
>few degrees off from the correct angle. I mentioned this on the list and a
>member suggested I send them back because they probably go to the firefly
>wing.
>
>Well, I got the same ones back with a note saying if the legs are too long
>they should be cut to the correct length by the builder. How would I know
>if they were too long until I arrived at this stage of assembly?
>Does this mean I can't paint all the pieces at one time? I have to adjust
>and paint each piece one at a time as I go? Cutting the legs is not a
>problem, but shouldn't they be the same length on every wing?
>
>The only way I can install this brace is to bend it so it doesn't hit the
>rib next to and bend it out of shape.
>
>The Quality of parts I've gotten from TNK is crap compared to what I got
>when I first built it,
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ed Bonsell / 86 Firestar.
>
>
>.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: adrenaline time |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Congratulations Bob......
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: adrenaline time
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Guess I can die happy now........once around the pattern, nothing bent.
> Must have had an air bubble in the coolant because the temp went too
> high to spend any time fiddlin around getting "familiarized". No heavy
> wing, tail/nose. It's definitely getting the Richard Pike aileron arm
mod.
> -nuff for one day. -anonymous do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Ken,
We were only out of juice for about 4 hours here thankfully. One of the
guys stopped in last night with a blue and yellow Kolb Firestar. Can't
remember his name. He's an engineer. Weather has been great for flying. Kirk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Checking in
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> After 48 hours with no power, I'm back home and back online. Whew.
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
> Rochester MI
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey...,
Mig is the easiest ( hard wire & CO2 ) But make sure you PRE-HEAT ....TIG
is good but your suppose to aneal it with a torch afterwards....and then theres
Oxycetelene...
Kolb uses MIG but they don't preheat and the weld starts out as a COLD LAP ....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN Fabracating Oil Tank
---
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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message of Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:56:19 -0700
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
MIG's are just fine, providing you use a torch to pre-heat the area
to be welded AND you choose appropriate size and composition wire for
the job.
With a MIG as soon as the trigger is pulled, you're laying down a
bead, whether its gas or flux-core used as an anti-oxidant. The use of
a torch to preheat geatly reduces shock and distortion to the area in
question, and reduces cold-weld at trigger pull. Heat selection and
wire feed also greatly affect weld quality (penetration) and appearance.
TIG welding has the advantage of preheating naturally, by design,
and the option to weld VERY slowly and without filler metal if
desired.....by method, taking a significantly longer time per foot of
weld. The TIG torch also has to have a coolant water source.
Don't forget the importance of cleanliness and comfort whatever
method is chosen.
Been my experience over the years.....flame away at th' Hillbilly
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@motorola.com>
Mike,
What is the best way to preheat and for how long or hot? Will the weld flow easier
when pre heated.
Rookie welder Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Pierzina [mailto:planecrazzzy@lycos.com]
Subject: Kolb-List: Welding Cage
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey...,
Mig is the easiest ( hard wire & CO2 ) But make sure you PRE-HEAT ....TIG
is good but your suppose to aneal it with a torch afterwards....and then theres
Oxycetelene...
Kolb uses MIG but they don't preheat and the weld starts out as a COLD LAP ....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN Fabracating Oil Tank
---
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax lighting coil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< jerb wrote: Has anybody seen a fuse block that mounts similar to a
terminal strip that
can hold say 1-5 automotive style fuses. jerb >>
Jerb, and Others -
I wired my electrical system using an automotive fuse block that holds 6
blade-type automotive fuses. It's compact (2x3 inches), simple, and easy to
mount. Checker Auto supply, approx 6 dollars. The trick is finding 3-amp
blade fuses. Most places carry 5, 10, 15, (etc.) -amp fuses. You'll have
to shop around for a 3-amp blade fuse.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, Verner-1400
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: MIG vs TIG message of Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:56:19 |
-0700
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Y'all;
Weld the way you desire, if it works for you that is what counts.
Bye the way, Have you ever heard of an air-cooled TIG torch? I've been using
one for years, I've used water cooled also.
Jim Hauck
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax lighting coil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
I used a bunch of those blade fuses, after using them a few times I like
the mini-style better. I used all inline type but the block has more class.
-BB do not archive
Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
><< jerb wrote: Has anybody seen a fuse block that mounts similar to a
>terminal strip that
>can hold say 1-5 automotive style fuses. jerb >>
>
>Jerb, and Others -
>
>I wired my electrical system using an automotive fuse block that holds 6
>blade-type automotive fuses. It's compact (2x3 inches), simple, and easy to
>mount. Checker Auto supply, approx 6 dollars. The trick is finding 3-amp
>blade fuses. Most places carry 5, 10, 15, (etc.) -amp fuses. You'll have
>to shop around for a 3-amp blade fuse.
>
>Dennis Kirby
>Mark-3, Verner-1400
>Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@rocketjet.net>
Hey Lar,
I've been off line for over a week with my ISP, if you haven't left the
Ocala area, give me a shout at 307-9009. ...Richard Swiderski
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Trip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> I'll be leaving the Ocala, FL area tomorrow afternoon, and heading across
the bottom of the southern states. Should be in east Texas by next weekend,
give or take. Anybody on that line of flight ?? I REALLY want to catch an
Alligator Gar, and an Alligator Snapping Turtle...........any help for me ??
Answer fast, cause I cover a lot of ground awful fast. Looks like I'm back
on my time-line, finally. Wanderin'
Lar...............hypnotized by the Okefenokee today - sure hated to leave.
Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZepRep251@aol.com
Roger, My son made me two copies of the blue prints before I started the
project in 99. I could get one of them to you if you have no alternative.G.Aman
FS2
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax lighting coil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
BB,
What are the mini style?
At 05:56 PM 8/18/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
>I used a bunch of those blade fuses, after using them a few times I like
>the mini-style better. I used all inline type but the block has more class.
>-BB do not archive
>
>Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
> >
> ><< jerb wrote: Has anybody seen a fuse block that mounts similar to a
> >terminal strip that
> >can hold say 1-5 automotive style fuses. jerb >>
> >
> >Jerb, and Others -
> >
> >I wired my electrical system using an automotive fuse block that holds 6
> >blade-type automotive fuses. It's compact (2x3 inches), simple, and easy to
> >mount. Checker Auto supply, approx 6 dollars. The trick is finding 3-amp
> >blade fuses. Most places carry 5, 10, 15, (etc.) -amp fuses. You'll have
> >to shop around for a 3-amp blade fuse.
> >
> >Dennis Kirby
> >Mark-3, Verner-1400
> >Cedar Crest, NM
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Richard,
I know Verizon has service in parts of Florida. Last month they had a
special for DSL service up to 1.5Mb down stream for $35 month. They
probably still have it. It's like I have upgraded my computer. Much
faster than the 256Kb I previously had. So far it has worked well. But
do put a router between you and your DSL modem to block hackers.
jerb
At 06:40 PM 8/18/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@rocketjet.net>
>
>Hey Lar,
>
> I've been off line for over a week with my ISP, if you haven't left the
>Ocala area, give me a shout at 307-9009. ...Richard Swiderski
>
>do not archive
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Trip
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> > I'll be leaving the Ocala, FL area tomorrow afternoon, and heading across
>the bottom of the southern states. Should be in east Texas by next weekend,
>give or take. Anybody on that line of flight ?? I REALLY want to catch an
>Alligator Gar, and an Alligator Snapping Turtle...........any help for me ??
>Answer fast, cause I cover a lot of ground awful fast. Looks like I'm back
>on my time-line, finally. Wanderin'
>Lar...............hypnotized by the Okefenokee today - sure hated to leave.
>Do not Archive.
> >
> > Larry Bourne
> > Palm Springs, CA
> > Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> > www.gogittum.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drag strut brace / Quality of parts |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken W Korenek <kenkorenek@charter.net>
>
>
>If I may ask Ed, what does a complete set of 7-rib wings cost? I may be
>doing the same thing in the future.
>
>
I bought the first "wings only" kit from Kolb last May and the kit, some
extras like a triple strobe, a few tools like a pneumatic rivet puller,
Poly-fiber coverings (and tools to apply- irons, pinking shears,
inspection covers) and PolyTone paint cost me right at $5500 complete.
I borrowed an airless sprayer to do the painting. I guess I spent
around $200 on wood for fixtures, a really flat building table, and a
rack to hold the stock materials before I used them.
There are things I'd recommend to a new wing builder: Put a hand hold
in the wing tips. Invaluable tool when folding the wings and just
plain ground handling, wingtip strobes, inspection holes (paint the
covers now and use them when you finally cut open the inspection holes)
in about 6 places and "x" hinges with fabric gap seals. Use the round
tube lift struts and install the vinyl aerodynamic covers on them with
enough support to allow you to push/pull on the lift struts for ground
handling. Use an allternative method to attach the aileron ribs to the
trailing edge to get rid of the "Homer Hump." You'll be glad you did.
Took me 335 hours from first hole to last coat of paint and attachment
of the finished wing to the fuselage and the really detailed preflight
before I jumped in and roared off into the wild blue. Have to give
John Williamson a big thanks for helping me during that process. He was
a big help.
I've got some more lessons learned if anyone wants to call me about
them. Way too much to type. I'd also send a CD of the several
hundred photos that I took of the jigs and building process to anyone
who really needs them....
Ken Korenek
N104KK
314-837-3265 Home (after 6 PM)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax lighting coil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
jerb, drop in to autozone (advantage, pep boys, etc) and check out the
different types
hanging in the blister packs. The standard blade @about 1/2" wide and
the mini
@about 3/8". The socket seems better on the small one, go for the holder
with the little snap-cap. If you can find a block in this size so much
the better.
For some reason I went with the larger style for the higher amp loads, now
I don't think I needed to. -BB
jerb wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
>BB,
>What are the mini style?
>
>
>At 05:56 PM 8/18/03 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>>
>>I used a bunch of those blade fuses, after using them a few times I like
>>the mini-style better. I used all inline type but the block has more class.
>>-BB do not archive
>>
>>Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM
>>>
>>>
>><Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>>
>>
>>><< jerb wrote: Has anybody seen a fuse block that mounts similar to a
>>>terminal strip that
>>>can hold say 1-5 automotive style fuses. jerb >>
>>>
>>>Jerb, and Others -
>>>
>>>I wired my electrical system using an automotive fuse block that holds 6
>>>blade-type automotive fuses. It's compact (2x3 inches), simple, and easy to
>>>mount. Checker Auto supply, approx 6 dollars. The trick is finding 3-amp
>>>blade fuses. Most places carry 5, 10, 15, (etc.) -amp fuses. You'll have
>>>to shop around for a 3-amp blade fuse.
>>>
>>>Dennis Kirby
>>>Mark-3, Verner-1400
>>>Cedar Crest, NM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
Kirk,
At 09:28 AM 8/18/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
>1. The pilot is descending in a shallow descent at a relatively high airspeed
and throttle partially open (about half way or so). This is very dangerous setting,
the mixture will lean out significantly but it does not necessarily shows
up as too high EGT because the engine is not really producing much power and
remember its not necessarily over the limit EGT but rather the difference between
the piston and cylinder temperature . All three bad conditions are met here
, combustion (piston) temperature is high, cylinder temperature is low (not
much power produced) and low amount of oil entering the engine. Even an engine
that is otherwise well tuned can seize this way.
>I recommend to do your descending at only slightly above or at idle rpm at slow
airspeed somewhere between best glide and best sink.
With the Victor 1+, I typically let down from altitude, 2,000 to 3,000 feet, at
speeds faster than cruise. Cruise rpm is 5,200 rpm and it gives something close
to 55 mph. When I get about 8 - 10 miles out from the airport, I throttle
back to 4,800 rpm and drop the nose and maintain 60 mphi. This will give a descent
rate of about 200 to 300 fpm. At 5,200 rpm the throttle is 25% open, so
reducing engine speed to 4,800 rpm moves it close to 20%. With the needle I
am running I see little change in EGT. Coolant temperature may drop from around
200 to 190 degrees F on a hot day. CHT will vary from 150 to 175 degrees
F. The fuel flow rate meter may drop a couple of tens of a gallon, so lubrication
is not a problem. When load comes off an engine, it requires less lubrication.
With an air cooled engine with cast iron liners, a cold cylinder and hot
piston combination can be a problem.
I could not do any of the above with the Rotax 447 set up to top out at 6,000 rpm.
EGT's would vary too much. With it, I would slow the engine to about 3,800
rpm to prevent over cooling the engine and to keep the EGT's below 1,200 degrees
F and slow the FireFly up to get a good descend rate. After I over propped
the engine by increasing propeller pitch could I make speed descents as outlined
above.
>
>2. ........ check very lean running condition is created, this should be indicated
by high EGT but often people don't pay enough attention to these warning
signs , and/or don't realize how dangerous this really is until its too late.
If one is going to ignore EGT, CHT and/or coolant temperatures, they will experience
emergency landing with greater frequency than those who manage their engine
well.
>
>
>Do not archive
>
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: adrenaline time |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net>
Way to go anonymous! Keep us posted on how that Geo is running.
I put another 1.2 hrs on my 2SI 690 tonight and its humming along nicely,
these different engines keep things interesting for me.
Denny Rowe
Mk-3 N616DR, Leechburg, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: adrenaline time
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Guess I can die happy now........once around the pattern, nothing bent.
> Must have had an air bubble in the coolant because the temp went too
> high to spend any time fiddlin around getting "familiarized". No heavy
> wing, tail/nose. It's definitely getting the Richard Pike aileron arm
mod.
> -nuff for one day. -anonymous do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Spent the night in Ocala last Saturday, and tried to fish the Withlacoochie
on Sunday. Gave it up cause of the tangle at the launch ramp, and didn't
trust the heavy truck to the dirt ramps. Then came the thunderstorm and the
pouring rain when I tried for the Suwanee River, so took off north and west.
Came on up to John Hauck's last night, and here I is. Sorry I missed
you.................tried to email you last week, but it wouldn't go thru.
Also tried from Mike Shackleford's the week before. (??)
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@rocketjet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
<swiderski@rocketjet.net>
>
> Hey Lar,
>
> I've been off line for over a week with my ISP, if you haven't left
the
> Ocala area, give me a shout at 307-9009. ...Richard Swiderski
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Trip
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> > I'll be leaving the Ocala, FL area tomorrow afternoon, and heading
across
> the bottom of the southern states. Should be in east Texas by next
weekend,
> give or take. Anybody on that line of flight ?? I REALLY want to catch
an
> Alligator Gar, and an Alligator Snapping Turtle...........any help for me
??
> Answer fast, cause I cover a lot of ground awful fast. Looks like I'm
back
> on my time-line, finally. Wanderin'
> Lar...............hypnotized by the Okefenokee today - sure hated to
leave.
> Do not Archive.
> >
> > Larry Bourne
> > Palm Springs, CA
> > Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> > www.gogittum.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I-net Service |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, but......................I had Verizon DSL for a while, and it was
fine - - - then they decided that they'd only recognize verizon addresses
for sent mail.................and I host my own email. I get a pretty good
charge out of my "gogittum" address, and told 'em clearly that I wouldn't
change. They told me "tough t....", equally clearly, so I left them. Burns
me - on principle, if nothing else. Arrogant S.O.B.'s.
Disgusted Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: I-net Service
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Richard,
> I know Verizon has service in parts of Florida. Last month they had a
> special for DSL service up to 1.5Mb down stream for $35 month. They
> probably still have it. It's like I have upgraded my computer. Much
> faster than the 256Kb I previously had. So far it has worked well. But
> do put a router between you and your DSL modem to block hackers.
> jerb
>
> At 06:40 PM 8/18/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
<swiderski@rocketjet.net>
> >
> >Hey Lar,
> >
> > I've been off line for over a week with my ISP, if you haven't left
the
> >Ocala area, give me a shout at 307-9009. ...Richard Swiderski
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Trip
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> > >
> > > I'll be leaving the Ocala, FL area tomorrow afternoon, and heading
across
> >the bottom of the southern states. Should be in east Texas by next
weekend,
> >give or take. Anybody on that line of flight ?? I REALLY want to catch
an
> >Alligator Gar, and an Alligator Snapping Turtle...........any help for me
??
> >Answer fast, cause I cover a lot of ground awful fast. Looks like I'm
back
> >on my time-line, finally. Wanderin'
> >Lar...............hypnotized by the Okefenokee today - sure hated to
leave.
> >Do not Archive.
> > >
> > > Larry Bourne
> > > Palm Springs, CA
> > > Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> > > www.gogittum.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I-net Service |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Actually while you don't like it, and it can get in the way once in a
while, it slows down spammers who if they hi-jack someone's email account
can only send messages with a return address within that domain. If the
ISP does not clamp down their mail servers to prevent their function as an
open relay, it allows outside parties to send spam messages through the
site with or without their knowledge.
jerb
At 07:25 PM 8/18/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>Yah, but......................I had Verizon DSL for a while, and it was
>fine - - - then they decided that they'd only recognize verizon addresses
>for sent mail.................and I host my own email. I get a pretty good
>charge out of my "gogittum" address, and told 'em clearly that I wouldn't
>change. They told me "tough t....", equally clearly, so I left them. Burns
>me - on principle, if nothing else. Arrogant S.O.B.'s.
>Disgusted Lar. Do not Archive.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
>www.gogittum.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: I-net Service
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
> >
> > Richard,
> > I know Verizon has service in parts of Florida. Last month they had a
> > special for DSL service up to 1.5Mb down stream for $35 month. They
> > probably still have it. It's like I have upgraded my computer. Much
> > faster than the 256Kb I previously had. So far it has worked well. But
> > do put a router between you and your DSL modem to block hackers.
> > jerb
> >
> > At 06:40 PM 8/18/03 -0400, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski"
><swiderski@rocketjet.net>
> > >
> > >Hey Lar,
> > >
> > > I've been off line for over a week with my ISP, if you haven't left
>the
> > >Ocala area, give me a shout at 307-9009. ...Richard Swiderski
> > >
> > >do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> > >To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Kolb-List: Trip
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> > > >
> > > > I'll be leaving the Ocala, FL area tomorrow afternoon, and heading
>across
> > >the bottom of the southern states. Should be in east Texas by next
>weekend,
> > >give or take. Anybody on that line of flight ?? I REALLY want to catch
>an
> > >Alligator Gar, and an Alligator Snapping Turtle...........any help for me
>??
> > >Answer fast, cause I cover a lot of ground awful fast. Looks like I'm
>back
> > >on my time-line, finally. Wanderin'
> > >Lar...............hypnotized by the Okefenokee today - sure hated to
>leave.
> > >Do not Archive.
> > > >
> > > > Larry Bourne
> > > > Palm Springs, CA
> > > > Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> > > > www.gogittum.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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