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1. 05:00 AM - Re: Safety Question - Oil pressure gauge (Cy Galley)
2. 06:07 AM - Re: Safety Question - Oil pressure gauge (Bob Bean)
3. 11:26 AM - Verner Engine (John Cooley)
4. 11:44 AM - Cockpit adjustable trim (John Cooley)
5. 02:06 PM - Jabiru (Paul Petty)
6. 02:20 PM - Re: Cockpit adjustable trim (John Hauck)
7. 02:26 PM - Oil Gauge (Scott Trask)
8. 02:30 PM - Re: Cockpit adjustable trim (John Cooley)
9. 02:46 PM - Re: Oil Gauge (John Hauck)
10. 02:47 PM - Re: Jabiru (John Hauck)
11. 02:56 PM - Re: Cockpit adjustable trim (John Hauck)
12. 06:01 PM - trim tab (Bob Bean)
13. 06:30 PM - Re: trim tab (John Hauck)
14. 06:51 PM - Re: Jabiru (John Williamson)
15. 07:10 PM - Short Trip To Middlesboro in a Kolb (SGreenpg@aol.com)
16. 07:14 PM - Re: Oil Gauge (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
17. 07:21 PM - Re: Verner Engine (John Williamson)
18. 07:53 PM - Re: Verner Engine (Larry Bourne)
19. 08:14 PM - Re: Verner Engine (John Cooley)
20. 08:37 PM - Re: Verner Engine (HShack@aol.com)
21. 09:09 PM - Alaska 2004 (John Hauck)
22. 09:40 PM - Re: Kolb Fly-in (DAquaNut@aol.com)
23. 10:35 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Fly-in (John Hauck)
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| Subject: | Re: Safety Question - Oil pressure gauge |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
It is a good idea but it only produces a longer time before all the oil is
pumped overboard; a longer time to find a landing area.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
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From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Safety Question - Oil pressure gauge
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Here's a safety question. Should there be a restrictor inserted in the
oil
> pressure line in the event if should break it would reduce the oil
> loss. Ask your A&I, A&P, and DAR?
> jerb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Safety Question - Oil pressure gauge |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>>
>>Here's a safety question. Should there be a restrictor inserted in the
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>oil
>
>
>>pressure line
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>>
There's something about it in the regs for certificated planes, I go
with the elect sender
type also, less messy, less risk, however if that's the route you want,
use a restrictor
fitting (AN flare) at the engine, and hydraulic hose. Then all your
pressure drop will be
at the orifice.
Don't use a capillary line for any distance because of the horrendous
lag time in the
reading. -BB do not archive
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>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hi John W. and Gang,
John, was curious about why you are switching to the Verner engine. I haven
t saw anything posted on this other than you are installing the Verner. Isn
t it the same hp?
John Cooley
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| Subject: | Cockpit adjustable trim |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hi Gang,
Would like to hear some pro's and con's on installing a cockpit adjustable
trim tab one of the elevator halves on the Mark III. The Twinstar Mark II
uses one and they work very well. Not very pretty but neither is a big ole
trim tab on the rudder to offset the P factor of the Rotax 912. Is anyone on
the list with a Mark III using this setup. One big advantage is that it
could be used for pitch control in the unlikely event that a elevator
control cable became inoperable. Any thoughts on this?
Later,
John Cooley
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Where can one purchase a Jabiru engine in the States?
I have looked on a couple of websites and seen prices from $5700.00 to $13,000.00?????
pp
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit adjustable trim |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
John Cooley wrote:
> Would like to hear some pro's and con's on installing a cockpit adjustable
> trim tab one of the elevator halves on the Mark III.
> John Cooley
John C/Gang:
On the original Twinstar, the adjustable elevator trim was
the cause of a fatal crash. It is in the NTSB archives.
I have no problem with the basic pitch trim on the Mark III.
I did change the actuator on mine, but the basic design
is still there.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
Hi
On a manual oil gauge the oil line is very small not much larger then the
wire that you would use. The likelihood of that line braking is very slim. I
thought the same way till I did some of my own experiments with the line. I
also checked with some of Rotax Tec. people and they say that a lot of guys
are going manual and that's ok. I when though two sender unit and checking
both when I install them nether was very accrete. If you can't trust your
gauges what good are they.
Scott Trask IMT
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit adjustable trim |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
John H.,
Thanks, I think. I will have to look that one up. Would like to know as
much detail as possible as I am currently flying a Twinstar with this trim
system.
John Cooley
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From: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Cockpit adjustable trim
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
John Cooley wrote:
> Would like to hear some pro's and con's on installing a cockpit adjustable
> trim tab one of the elevator halves on the Mark III.
> John Cooley
John C/Gang:
On the original Twinstar, the adjustable elevator trim was
the cause of a fatal crash. It is in the NTSB archives.
I have no problem with the basic pitch trim on the Mark III.
I did change the actuator on mine, but the basic design
is still there.
john h
.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
I when though two sender unit and checking
> both when I install them nether was very accrete. If you can't trust your
> gauges what good are they.
> Scott Trask IMT
Scott/Gang:
You got that right. I have never had an electric gauge on
the 912 or 912S that was reliable. Now you got me thinking
about a mechanical gauge. They do not lie, for the most part.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Paul Petty wrote:
> Where can one purchase a Jabiru engine in the States?
Paul/Gang:
John W just pulled a Jabiru off his Kolbra.............
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit adjustable trim |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
John Cooley wrote:
> Thanks, I think. I will have to look that one up. Would like to know as
> much detail as possible as I am currently flying a Twinstar with this trim
> system.
John C/All:
Here is the url:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001211X11253&key=1
The narrative indicates the adjustable elevator trim was not
a factory design. However, IIRC the original Twinstar did
have a factor cockpit controlled elevator trim tab.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
The report mentioned a 5 x 20 trim tab...that would be enough for a DC-3.
A well designed unit works fine, but if you already have the stock Kolb
springy-thingy????? -BB do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The report mentioned a 5 x 20 trim tab...that would be enough for a DC-3.
> A well designed unit works fine, but if you already have the stock Kolb
> springy-thingy????? -BB
BB/All:
IIRC that is about the size of the cockpit adjustable
elevator trim tab on the old Twinstar. I never flew one, so
have no idea of how effective or over effective it was.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Paul, & all,
The busiest Jabiru dealer is in Wisconsin and that's who I bought my Jabiru
2200 from. Their website is at: http://www.usjabiru.com/
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, SN: 008, Verner 133M
Airplane: 441 hours, Engine: 0 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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| Subject: | Short Trip To Middlesboro in a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com
I''ve got my plane loaded for a short trip to a fly-in this weekend in
Middlesboro, KY. There will be 2 P-38s and several other WWII war birds flying
Sat.
and Sun. One of the P38s is Glacier Girl of "The Lost Squadron" (
www.thelostsquadron.com ). Glacier Girl will be flown this weekend and one other flight
this month then retired to a museum according to Jeff at the Lost Squadron
museum.
Hope to see you there.
Steven Green
N58SG
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
In my racing days I used ss braid line and VDO gauges NEVER a failure !
........ Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Verner Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
John C. and fellow listers,
I have had several inquires about my switch to a different engine on the
Kolbra. I will try and explain some of my reasoning.
I had this Jabiru 2200 engine in my garage for another project that didn't
work out and the Kolbra was the only tandem seat aircraft that advertised
the use of the Jabiru that interested me.
The Jabiru has proven to be a very dependable engine for me but it has had
some short comings.
The slow speed of the Kolbra does cause the engine to run near the CHT
limits most of the time. The engine just doesn't get the volume of air it
needs to stay cool.
The direct drive forces you to use a fairly short propeller so the take-off
and climb performance isn't as good as if it was powered by a Rotax 912.
I do not favor one brand of engine over another and the new Verner 133M on
paper looks like a very good alternative to the Rotax.
I cruise just fine pushing the Kolbra along at 80-85 mph and burning about
4.2 gph with the Jabiru. The Verner is advertised with a smaller fuel burn.
Hopefully the new three blade prop turning a lot slower will quiet the
airplane a little, give better acceleration and climb performance.
The Jabiru is 80 hp and the Verner 133M is 78 hp. Since the hp rating is
real close, my cruise should be about the same but the rest of the
performance numbers should improve.
I am doing the final little items needed to crank it up for the first time
now. The only thing I have to do tomorrow is drill and install the EGT
probes and attach the exhaust system. Hopefully I will fire it up just
before lunch tomorrow. Over the weekend I will rework the gap seal to fit
and put the wings back on and be ready to do a new weight and balance on
Monday and be ready to fly.
I will post an email with the results of the first few flights with the
Verner engine.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, SN: 008, Verner 133M
Airplane: 441 hours, Engine: 0 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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| Subject: | Re: Verner Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
It'll be interesting to see if you have the same experience as Rick Neilsen
when he put the re-drive on his VW. Same engine, and performance increased
dramatically. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Verner Engine
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> John C. and fellow listers,
>
> I have had several inquires about my switch to a different engine on the
> Kolbra. I will try and explain some of my reasoning.
>
> I had this Jabiru 2200 engine in my garage for another project that didn't
> work out and the Kolbra was the only tandem seat aircraft that advertised
> the use of the Jabiru that interested me.
>
> The Jabiru has proven to be a very dependable engine for me but it has had
> some short comings.
>
> The slow speed of the Kolbra does cause the engine to run near the CHT
> limits most of the time. The engine just doesn't get the volume of air it
> needs to stay cool.
>
> The direct drive forces you to use a fairly short propeller so the
take-off
> and climb performance isn't as good as if it was powered by a Rotax 912.
>
> I do not favor one brand of engine over another and the new Verner 133M on
> paper looks like a very good alternative to the Rotax.
>
> I cruise just fine pushing the Kolbra along at 80-85 mph and burning about
> 4.2 gph with the Jabiru. The Verner is advertised with a smaller fuel
burn.
>
> Hopefully the new three blade prop turning a lot slower will quiet the
> airplane a little, give better acceleration and climb performance.
>
> The Jabiru is 80 hp and the Verner 133M is 78 hp. Since the hp rating is
> real close, my cruise should be about the same but the rest of the
> performance numbers should improve.
>
> I am doing the final little items needed to crank it up for the first time
> now. The only thing I have to do tomorrow is drill and install the EGT
> probes and attach the exhaust system. Hopefully I will fire it up just
> before lunch tomorrow. Over the weekend I will rework the gap seal to fit
> and put the wings back on and be ready to do a new weight and balance on
> Monday and be ready to fly.
>
> I will post an email with the results of the first few flights with the
> Verner engine.
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, SN: 008, Verner 133M
> Airplane: 441 hours, Engine: 0 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Verner Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
John W. and gang
Your reasoning makes good sense. I will be out of town for the next week or
so, going to Colorado on a bowhunting trip, and will be interested in seeing
how things work out with the Verner when I get back. Good luck.
P.S. Looking forward to the cool mountain air and getting a little relief
from this hot humid deep south stuff.
"do not archive"
Later,
John Cooley
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From: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Verner Engine
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
John C. and fellow listers,
I have had several inquires about my switch to a different engine on the
Kolbra. I will try and explain some of my reasoning.
I had this Jabiru 2200 engine in my garage for another project that didn't
work out and the Kolbra was the only tandem seat aircraft that advertised
the use of the Jabiru that interested me.
The Jabiru has proven to be a very dependable engine for me but it has had
some short comings.
The slow speed of the Kolbra does cause the engine to run near the CHT
limits most of the time. The engine just doesn't get the volume of air it
needs to stay cool.
The direct drive forces you to use a fairly short propeller so the take-off
and climb performance isn't as good as if it was powered by a Rotax 912.
I do not favor one brand of engine over another and the new Verner 133M on
paper looks like a very good alternative to the Rotax.
I cruise just fine pushing the Kolbra along at 80-85 mph and burning about
4.2 gph with the Jabiru. The Verner is advertised with a smaller fuel burn.
Hopefully the new three blade prop turning a lot slower will quiet the
airplane a little, give better acceleration and climb performance.
The Jabiru is 80 hp and the Verner 133M is 78 hp. Since the hp rating is
real close, my cruise should be about the same but the rest of the
performance numbers should improve.
I am doing the final little items needed to crank it up for the first time
now. The only thing I have to do tomorrow is drill and install the EGT
probes and attach the exhaust system. Hopefully I will fire it up just
before lunch tomorrow. Over the weekend I will rework the gap seal to fit
and put the wings back on and be ready to do a new weight and balance on
Monday and be ready to fly.
I will post an email with the results of the first few flights with the
Verner engine.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, SN: 008, Verner 133M
Airplane: 441 hours, Engine: 0 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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| Subject: | Re: Verner Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 9/4/03 10:53:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
biglar@gogittum.com writes:
> It'll be interesting to see if you have the same experience as Rick Neilsen
> when he put the re-drive on his VW. Same engine, and performance increased
> dramatically. Lar. Do not Archive.
>
>
I saw a Mk III with a Verner engine about a year ago; that thing had an
awesome climb! Sounded good too.
Shack
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
Found out recently I have a free Summer next year which
opens things up for a flight back to Alaska. What a way to
celebrate your 65th year!!!
John Williamson and I have been talking about making it a
twosome. So John has to get busy and get the Verner flying
and squared away for the long trek north.
Just got off the phone with Tom Kuffel, Whitefish, MT. He
and his wife Betty, were attendees at the Unplanned Kolb
Flying 2003 last May at Monument Valley, UT.
Anybody else want to tag along?
This will be an unofficial, relaxed, enjoyable, exciting,
flight. Departing around 1 Jul 2004. Probably take a month
or so. The nice thing about it is if you get bored, are too
fast or too slow, you can always bail out and do your own
thing and go your own way. This is a no strings attached
adventure.
Will be nice to have company along for a long flight. Of
course Tom's Prospector flies much faster than John's Kolbra
and my MK III. Sooooooooooo, Tom and Betty can get to the
RON site first, set up our tents, and have a hot supper
ready for us when we come dragging in. hehehe
Plan to do some serious site seeing that I have not had the
opportunity to do on my last two flights North. Included
will be a flight back up to the North Slope, Dead
Horse/Prudhoe Bay, a visit with the Helmericks at Colville
Village, 48 miles NW of Dead Horse, and if we make it that
far, it is only another 185 miles to Barrow, the top of the
world.
We are in the talking stage and next Summer will be here
before we know it.
Anybody else interested?
john h
Titus, Alabama
MK III/912S
N101AB
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group,
Does anyone know if they have electricity avalible for campers at the
New Kolb flyin site?
Ed (In Houston)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Does anyone know if they have electricity avalible for campers at the
> New Kolb flyin site?
>
> Ed (In Houston)
Ed/All:
Get there early. I believe there is a couple outlets by the
first hanger you encounter on the way into the factory.
john n
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