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1. 06:32 AM - Fly-in!! (info)
2. 07:31 AM - New Kolb Owner (J.L.Turner)
3. 08:14 AM - Re: New Kolb Owner (tony webster)
4. 08:16 AM - Re: Fly-in!! (tony webster)
5. 09:04 AM - Re: Fly-in!! (DAquaNut@aol.com)
6. 09:17 AM - cables in boom tube (boyd young)
7. 10:10 AM - Re: New Kolb Owner (ron wehba)
8. 10:35 AM - kitty hawk (boyd young)
9. 10:39 AM - Re: New Kolb Owner (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
10. 10:42 AM - Re: New Kolb Owner (Ben Ransom)
11. 11:06 AM - Re: New Kolb Owner (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
12. 11:12 AM - Re: New Kolb Owner (GeoR38@aol.com)
13. 11:30 AM - Photo and New Kolb flyin (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
14. 12:02 PM - Firestar Newbie (J.L.Turner)
15. 12:05 PM - Re: Photo and New Kolb flyin (John Hauck)
16. 12:18 PM - Kolb Fly-In (ghaley@wt.net)
17. 12:58 PM - kid at Christmas (Paul Petty)
18. 01:09 PM - TwinStar (Roger Peterson)
19. 01:09 PM - Re: New Kolb Owner (Richard Pike)
20. 02:16 PM - Re: kid at Christmas (John Hauck)
21. 02:31 PM - Re: kid at Christmas (Paul Petty)
22. 02:48 PM - Re: Photo and New Kolb flyin (Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious)
23. 02:57 PM - Re: kid at Christmas (John Hauck)
24. 03:42 PM - Re: New Kolb Owner (bryan green)
25. 04:04 PM - Kit on order (Derek Lawrence)
26. 04:57 PM - Re: Kit on order (CRAIG M NELSON)
27. 05:41 PM - Re: Kolb fly-in (Duncan McBride)
28. 05:46 PM - Re: kid at Christmas (Larry Bourne)
29. 05:48 PM - Re: kid at Christmas (Larry Bourne)
30. 05:49 PM - Re: New Kolb Owner (Ben Ransom)
31. 05:58 PM - Re: Kolb fly-in (John Hauck)
32. 06:00 PM - Re: Kit on order (Don Gherardini)
33. 06:11 PM - Re: MKII Twinstar legs (Don Gherardini)
34. 06:39 PM - Re: Kolb fly-in (SGreenpg@aol.com)
35. 06:57 PM - Re: Kolb fly-in (Richard Pike)
36. 07:02 PM - Re: cables in boom tube (Woody)
37. 07:26 PM - Rotax Part (J.L.Turner)
38. 07:27 PM - Camping (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
39. 07:36 PM - fly in (Paul Petty)
40. 07:44 PM - Re: Rotax Part (John Hauck)
41. 07:45 PM - Re: Camping (John Hauck)
42. 08:04 PM - Michigan Fall Color Tour (Fackler, Ken)
43. 08:24 PM - Re: Kit on order (possums)
44. 10:06 PM - jackpot (boyd young)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "info" <info@aircrafttechsupport.com>
We'll be there doing a fabric "hands-on" this year,
Looking forward to seeing everyone!!
Jim & Dondi Miller
Aircraft Technical Support, Inc.
Poly-Fiber & Ceconite Distributors
(Toll Free) (877) 877-3334
Web Site: www.poly-fiber.com
E-mail: info@aircrafttechsupport.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
Greetings!
I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS system. My aviation
background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute flying with a Basic Flight
Instructor license, 40 hours of ground school for private pilot license, and 15
hours in a Cessna 172. I bought the Firestar because I wanted a safe ultralight
that was relatively easy to fly. All my research pointed me to the Firestar.
Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the Firestar. I've
spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and ground maneuvering while
waiting for an evening with little wind. I've read everything I can about
the Kolb, including the owners manual. I fully understand that you fly the Firestar
to the ground without flare at about 40 mph and maintain your airspeed
while inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said, I felt very confident with my ability
and other GA instructors and pilots tell me I'd have no problem. However,
the previous owner talks about the Firestar as if it were a "widow maker"
and insisting I receive several hours of dual instruction in a Kolb, (something
I have not been able to find around SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience
is always best, at some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar
off the ground to advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any
comments?
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: tony webster <caw@nctc.com>
just use a little common sense be careful and go for it you can do it with the
experience you have should be no problem
J.L.Turner wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
>
> Greetings!
>
> I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS system. My aviation
background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute flying with a Basic Flight
Instructor license, 40 hours of ground school for private pilot license, and
15 hours in a Cessna 172. I bought the Firestar because I wanted a safe ultralight
that was relatively easy to fly. All my research pointed me to the Firestar.
>
> Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the Firestar.
I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and ground maneuvering
while waiting for an evening with little wind. I've read everything I can about
the Kolb, including the owners manual. I fully understand that you fly the
Firestar to the ground without flare at about 40 mph and maintain your airspeed
while inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said, I felt very confident with my
ability and other GA instructors and pilots tell me I'd have no problem. However,
the previous owner talks about the Firestar as if it were a "widow maker"
and insisting I receive several hours of dual instruction in a Kolb, (something
I have not been able to find around SW Wisconsin). While getting as much
experience is always best, at some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar
off the ground to advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft.
Any comments?
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: tony webster <caw@nctc.com>
it doesn't say when the fly-in is
info wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "info" <info@aircrafttechsupport.com>
>
> We'll be there doing a fabric "hands-on" this year,
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone!!
>
> Jim & Dondi Miller
> Aircraft Technical Support, Inc.
> Poly-Fiber & Ceconite Distributors
> (Toll Free) (877) 877-3334
> Web Site: www.poly-fiber.com
> E-mail: info@aircrafttechsupport.com
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 9/10/03 9:16:48 AM Central Standard Time, caw@nctc.com
writes:
<< it doesn't say when the fly-in is >>
Sept 27 &28
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| Subject: | cables in boom tube |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
> > I am installing the rudder cables in my MK III 3 X. The manual does not
> say how to route the cables through the boom tube either above the "H"
> assembly or below it. Does anybody on the list remember how they routed
> theirs. While I'm asking, how did you route the elevator cables in the
boom tube?
I dont know about the extra but on the clasic it seems that the rudder cables go
on top of the H and they have to cross inside the tube...the elevator cables
go on the bottom of the H. if in doubt pull them tight and see.
do not archive
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
just be sure and not flare it too high I fly my ultrastar right to about 1-2
feet above ground and chop the power and pull back on the stick slow, and it
just sits down and almost stops right there!
----- Original Message -----
From: "tony webster" <caw@nctc.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolb Owner
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: tony webster <caw@nctc.com>
>
> just use a little common sense be careful and go for it you can do it with
the experience you have should be no problem
>
> J.L.Turner wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS system.
My aviation background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute flying with a Basic
Flight Instructor license, 40 hours of ground school for private pilot
license, and 15 hours in a Cessna 172. I bought the Firestar because I
wanted a safe ultralight that was relatively easy to fly. All my research
pointed me to the Firestar.
> >
> > Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the
Firestar. I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and ground
maneuvering while waiting for an evening with little wind. I've read
everything I can about the Kolb, including the owners manual. I fully
understand that you fly the Firestar to the ground without flare at about 40
mph and maintain your airspeed while inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said,
I felt very confident with my ability and other GA instructors and pilots
tell me I'd have no problem. However, the previous owner talks about the
Firestar as if it were a "widow maker" and insisting I receive several hours
of dual instruction in a Kolb, (something I have not been able to find
around SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience is always best, at
some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar off the ground to
advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any comments?
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
do not archive
i made a few mentions of my seat time in the usu wright flyer.... some have asked
for more info...
http://www.brigham.net/~byoung/wflyer1.jpg
http://www.brigham.net/~byoung/wflyer2.jpg
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
J.L.,
I agree with Tony. A couple of cautions though. I only had about 6 hrs
Quicksilver solo time when I bought my Firestar. Tried to get dual time but
couldn't find it. Was told to do a lot of taxiing and get it up to high
speed. Did 1 1/2 hrs worth and could pretty well handle it at 40 - 45 mph
on the ground. Friend George Thompson (another Kolb Owner) watching me
figured I was ok to go, so I did one more high speed taxi. Found myself 20'
in the air. Mistake #1: Tried to land it. Touched down hard and uneven on
the gear legs and bounced back in the air. Decided then to fly it, so
powered on then Mistake #2: Pulled the nose up. Dunno why I didn't stall
and spin, but I didn't. Noticed my a/s right at stall so pushed the nose
down, gained a/s and flew. Flew for a half hour getting used to the
controls then "greased" five landings. Have had no problems since.
So, if you can handle it well on the ground, then fly it. If you
inadvertantly get off the ground, don't make Mistake #1 - power on and fly
it. Learn the feel of the controls at 1,000' not 20'. Turns and climbs
should be gentle until you learn the capabilities of your aircraft. Do
stalls asap and at altitude and watch your speed in turns and banks.
Good Luck,
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: New Kolb Owner
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
>
> Greetings!
>
> I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS system.
My aviation background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute flying with a Basic
Flight Instructor license, 40 hours of ground school for private pilot
license, and 15 hours in a Cessna 172. I bought the Firestar because I
wanted a safe ultralight that was relatively easy to fly. All my research
pointed me to the Firestar.
>
> Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the
Firestar. I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and ground
maneuvering while waiting for an evening with little wind. I've read
everything I can about the Kolb, including the owners manual. I fully
understand that you fly the Firestar to the ground without flare at about 40
mph and maintain your airspeed while inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said,
I felt very confident with my ability and other GA instructors and pilots
tell me I'd have no problem. However, the previous owner talks about the
Firestar as if it were a "widow maker" and insisting I receive several hours
of dual instruction in a Kolb, (something I have not been able to find
around SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience is always best, at
some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar off the ground to
advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any comments?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
The Firestar is a very nicely mannered ultralight; it has no bad
habits. I would recommend (strongly) that you take a lesson in any
other dual ultralight. I assume the Powered Parachute flies and
handles quite differently, and the C-172 is too fast and heavy to give
you the cues needed in the Firestar. Getting just one lesson in a
light wing-loading airplane (any ultralight trainer) would be $50 well
spent IMO. Lots of things are easy once you know how to do them.
-Ben Ransom
Firestar KXP
--- "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
>
> Greetings!
>
> I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS
> system. My aviation background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute
> flying with a Basic Flight Instructor license, 40 hours of ground
> school for private pilot license, and 15 hours in a Cessna 172. I
> bought the Firestar because I wanted a safe ultralight that was
> relatively easy to fly. All my research pointed me to the Firestar.
>
> Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the
> Firestar. I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and
> ground maneuvering while waiting for an evening with little wind.
> I've read everything I can about the Kolb, including the owners
> manual. I fully understand that you fly the Firestar to the ground
> without flare at about 40 mph and maintain your airspeed while
> inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said, I felt very confident with my
> ability and other GA instructors and pilots tell me I'd have no
> problem. However, the previous owner talks about the Firestar as if
> it were a "widow maker" and insisting I receive several hours of dual
> instruction in a Kolb, (something I have not been able to find around
> SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience is always best, at
> some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar off the ground to
> advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any comments?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
=====
http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~ransom
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I have never flown a Firestar but the whole line of Kolb aircraft are VERY
safe. They all share one small characteristic (along with most ultra lights)
that can bite you. They slow down in a heart beat when you flare for
landing. The people that get bit the hardest are GA folks that are used to
big heavy airplanes (yes even 172s) that are used to starting there flares
50 ft up.
The recommended technique is to carry a small amount of power ( 25% or what
ever gives you the descent rate you are used to) all the way in for landing.
When you are inches above the ground, cut the power and the airplane will
automatically pitch up and flare for landing. As you get used to the
airplane you will want to land with less and less power so that you will
know how the plane lands if you lose your engine. Also don't use much flaps
at first. The issue is with little or no power and full flaps is your angle
of decent is very high close to 45 degrees in some models. When you get
close to the ground your instincts for self preservation tell you to flare
and (as a new Kolb pilot) you WILL flare too high and bend that new bird.
With this said these Kolbs are STOL airplanes and they can safely get in and
out of real short strips like no others, that's why we bought them.
My $.02 worth
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: New Kolb Owner
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
>
> Greetings!
>
> I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS system.
My aviation background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute flying with a Basic
Flight Instructor license, 40 hours of ground school for private pilot
license, and 15 hours in a Cessna 172. I bought the Firestar because I
wanted a safe ultralight that was relatively easy to fly. All my research
pointed me to the Firestar.
>
> Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the
Firestar. I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and ground
maneuvering while waiting for an evening with little wind. I've read
everything I can about the Kolb, including the owners manual. I fully
understand that you fly the Firestar to the ground without flare at about 40
mph and maintain your airspeed while inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said,
I felt very confident with my ability and other GA instructors and pilots
tell me I'd have no problem. However, the previous owner talks about the
Firestar as if it were a "widow maker" and insisting I receive several hours
of dual instruction in a Kolb, (something I have not been able to find
around SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience is always best, at
some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar off the ground to
advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any comments?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 09/10/2003 1:10:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rwehba@wtxs.net writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
>
> just be sure and not flare it too high I fly my ultrastar right to about 1-2
> feet above ground and chop the power and pull back on the stick slow, and it
> just sits down and almost stops right there!
and depending on how heavy YOU are will determine if 40 mph approach is
slightly too slow...sure hate to see you bend the landing gear on the first
try...try bringing it to 1-2 feet at 45 and I guarantee you'll be safe...the Kolb
mushes a lot before stall and you want to make sure you are above the speed of
mushness when you are more than 2 feet above the runway........geez, can't
believe I said that.
If the Kolb has a control secret, it is the silent mush at some 40ish speed
based on your weight....almost like high blood pressure...doesn't hurt til it
is too late.
George Randolph
KX Firestar driver from Akron...er...Fla, The Villages
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tony webster" <caw@nctc.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolb Owner
>
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: tony webster <caw@nctc.com>
> >
> >just use a little common sense be careful and go for it you can do it with
> the experience you have should be no problem
> >
> >J.L.Turner wrote:
> >
> >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
> >>
> >>Greetings!
> >>
> >>I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS system.
> My aviation background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute flying with a Basic
> Flight Instructor license, 40 hours of ground school for private pilot
> license, and 15 hours in a Cessna 172. I bought the Firestar because I
> wanted a safe ultralight that was relatively easy to fly. All my research
> pointed me to the Firestar.
> >>
> >>Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the
> Firestar. I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and ground
> maneuvering while waiting for an evening with little wind. I've read
> everything I can about the Kolb, including the owners manual. I fully
> understand that you fly the Firestar to the ground without flare at about 40
> mph and maintain your airspeed while inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said,
> I felt very confident with my ability and other GA instructors and pilots
> tell me I'd have no problem. However, the previous owner talks about the
> Firestar as if it were a "widow maker" and insisting I receive several hours
> of dual instruction in a Kolb, (something I have not been able to find
> around SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience is always best, at
> some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar off the ground to
> advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any comments?
>
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| Subject: | Photo and New Kolb flyin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I just noticed on the back cover of Experimenter (September 2003) is a arial
photo of Oshkosh. In the middle right in the camping area is my red VW
powered MKIIIc and John Hauck's Miss P"fer. The photo was taken after John
Williamson and Scott Trask departed.
I'm considering fly my MKIIIc to the Kolb flyin. I see maybe one other from
the north may be going that way. Its too early to say that I will be flying
right now but?
Rick Neilsen
VW powered MKIIIc
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
I posted a question this morning and I'm overwhelmed by what a great bunch of Kolb
flyers you all are! Your input and insights are very beneficial and I appreciate
all your comments. From our little neck of the woods here in SW Wisconsin,
our local GA pilots must think they fly F-14's or something very special,
because they snub ultralights & powered parachutes any chance they can. How
refreshing it is to be accepted into the "Kolb family" by you veterans. I know
I made the right choice in purchasing my Firestar!
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| Subject: | Re: Photo and New Kolb flyin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I just noticed on the back cover of Experimenter
> (September 2003) is a arial photo of Oshkosh. In the
> middle right in the camping area is my red VW powered
> MKIIIc and John Hauck's Miss P"fer. The photo was taken
> after John Williamson and Scott Trask departed.
>
> I'm considering fly my MKIIIc to the Kolb flyin. I see
> maybe one other from the north may be going that way. Its
> too early to say that I will be flying right now but?
>
> Rick Neilsen VW powered MKIIIc
Rick/All:
That's what they get for bailing out early.
There is also an article by Bob Brocious (sp), a MK III
owner in Kentucky.
Rick, come on down. We'll be looking for you.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net
I will be flying in on Friday Sept 26th and camping with my
airplane. First time.
Gary Haley, Houston, TX
Kolb Mark III/912
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| Subject: | kid at Christmas |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Today is a great day! After returning from lunch one of my employee's said "UPS
left a bunch of stuff for you in the back" So I rushed back to check it out
and there they were. To big boxes full of airplane parts, all in tact and no damage!
Heart racing, I opened each box and plundered through. I will wait until
tonight to do a check in of all the parts. Man after all this waiting it seems
I'm finally a Kolb owner.
pp snif....snif.....
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Roger Peterson <roger@pmmi-inc.com>
Is the only difference between the twinstar and the Firestar II the cage?
--
Roger Peterson
206 County Road 375
Sweeny, Texas 77480
Phone:979-647-4946
Cell: 979-487-8356
Fax: 979-647-1158
E-Mail: roger@pmmi-inc.com
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
If you stall it all crossed up, it will, like every other genuine airplane,
spin. If that makes it a widow maker, so be it.
Aside from that, ???? Sounds like the previous owner needed a different hobby.
When you land it, plan for it to slow down ten times faster than the
Skyhawk when you chop the throttle, plan accordingly.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 08:06 AM 9/10/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
>
>Greetings!
>
>I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS
>system. My aviation background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute flying
>with a Basic Flight Instructor license, 40 hours of ground school for
>private pilot license, and 15 hours in a Cessna 172. I bought the
>Firestar because I wanted a safe ultralight that was relatively easy to
>fly. All my research pointed me to the Firestar.
>
>Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the
>Firestar. I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and
>ground maneuvering while waiting for an evening with little wind. I've
>read everything I can about the Kolb, including the owners manual. I
>fully understand that you fly the Firestar to the ground without flare at
>about 40 mph and maintain your airspeed while inflight at about 45-50 mph.
>As I said, I felt very confident with my ability and other GA instructors
>and pilots tell me I'd have no problem. However, the previous owner talks
>about the Firestar as if it were a "widow maker" and insisting I receive
>several hours of dual instruction in a Kolb, (something I have not been
>able to find around SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience is
>always best, at some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar off
>the ground to advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any
>comments?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: kid at Christmas |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Man after all this
> waiting it seems I'm finally a Kolb owner.
>
> pp snif....snif.....
Paul/All:
Wow!!! :-)
john h
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| Subject: | Re: kid at Christmas |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
yeah pretty neat!!! 3150 rivets wow. think I should count em?
pp
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kid at Christmas
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> > Man after all this
> > waiting it seems I'm finally a Kolb owner.
> >
> > pp snif....snif.....
>
> Paul/All:
>
> Wow!!! :-)
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Photo and New Kolb flyin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob, Kathleen, & Kory Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
Richard,
The story a couple pages from the back page (with picture) is my story.
That's "Miss B" and Kory, my son.
Bob
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>From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Photo and New Kolb flyin
>Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:29:11 -0400
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
><NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
>I just noticed on the back cover of Experimenter (September 2003) is a
>arial
>photo of Oshkosh. In the middle right in the camping area is my red VW
>powered MKIIIc and John Hauck's Miss P"fer. The photo was taken after John
>Williamson and Scott Trask departed.
>
>I'm considering fly my MKIIIc to the Kolb flyin. I see maybe one other from
>the north may be going that way. Its too early to say that I will be flying
>right now but?
>
>Rick Neilsen
>VW powered MKIIIc
>
>
Bob, Kathleen, and Kory Brocious
Tenacity Farm
Campbellsburg, Kentucky
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| Subject: | Re: kid at Christmas |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> yeah pretty neat!!! 3150 rivets wow. think I should count em?
>
> pp
Paul/All:
Yea. Either count'em or weigh'em. You never know about
that crafty supply guy at the factory, Travis Brown, alias
Travis Chesnut. Travis answered the telephone at the
factory with Travis Chesnut one day. Told me he was Bruce's
son. Come to think about it, they do favor a bit.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
JL I had 10 hrs. of dual in a Cessna 150 many years ago then the first of
this year I took flight training in a Challenger II from a BFI (USUA) 7.5
hrs. About 2 months ago I bought a Firestar I with a 377 and BRS. I spent
about 2 hrs. at the airport ground handling and high speed taxi with crow
hops then the next day with my instructor present I flew the plane and now
have 9 hrs. logged on it and it flies great. If your a heavy pilot as am I
hold back stick and apply the power smoothly to prevent scooting down the
runway on your nose ( don't ask how I know this) and don't go to sleep on
the rudder. I'm sure some of the more experienced pilots on the list can add
to this and I hope it helps. Fly safe and have fun.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: New Kolb Owner
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
>
> Greetings!
>
> I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS system.
My aviation background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute flying with a Basic
Flight Instructor license, 40 hours of ground school for private pilot
license, and 15 hours in a Cessna 172. I bought the Firestar because I
wanted a safe ultralight that was relatively easy to fly. All my research
pointed me to the Firestar.
>
> Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the
Firestar. I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs and ground
maneuvering while waiting for an evening with little wind. I've read
everything I can about the Kolb, including the owners manual. I fully
understand that you fly the Firestar to the ground without flare at about 40
mph and maintain your airspeed while inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said,
I felt very confident with my ability and other GA instructors and pilots
tell me I'd have no problem. However, the previous owner talks about the
Firestar as if it were a "widow maker" and insisting I receive several hours
of dual instruction in a Kolb, (something I have not been able to find
around SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience is always best, at
some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar off the ground to
advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any comments?
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Derek Lawrence" <Derek@prestwoodpetcrematorium.co.uk>
Hi all
Thank you for all the welcomes to the list. To answer some of the questions posed:-
Stourbridge is in the centre of England fifteen miles West of Birmingham.
Yes I do have a sense of humour ( I'm building a Kolb aren't I) Yes I do have
trouble with the language at times ( two nations separated by a common language)
and I still do not understand "way to go"
I intend to fit a Rotax 582 with a C gearbox 3.47 and Arplast 3 blade prop though
this might change with experience.
For now I will wish you all good flying to the Kolb flyin and dream of the big
day
Derek Lawrence
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| Subject: | Re: Kit on order |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "CRAIG M NELSON" <vitalfx0@msn.com>
Derek
way to go is kinda like "isn't it lovely A?"hahaha!
uncle Craig
Mk III extra
Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: Derek Lawrence
Subject: Kolb-List: Kit on order
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Derek Lawrence" <Derek@prestwoodpetcrematorium.co.uk>
Hi all
Thank you for all the welcomes to the list. To answer some of the questions posed:-
Stourbridge is in the centre of England fifteen miles West of Birmingham.
Yes I do have a sense of humour ( I'm building a Kolb aren't I) Yes I do have
trouble with the language at times ( two nations separated by a common language)
and I still do not understand "way to go"
I intend to fit a Rotax 582 with a C gearbox 3.47 and Arplast 3 blade prop though
this might change with experience.
For now I will wish you all good flying to the Kolb flyin and dream of the big
day
Derek Lawrence
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Hey, I'm going to see if I can get up there from Ft. Myers, Florida. I just
converted the 637 nautical miles to statute and I think it will take two
days, even with good weather. Thing is, I was already planning a trip up
to meet some friends and go camping on Sunday - landing at Murphy-Andrews
100+ miles south, so if I can get away a day early, like Friday, and the
weather cooperates, I'll fly in Saturday and camp at the field. This is
exciting. I bought my first Atlanta sectional, and now it looks like I need
Cincinatti. Oboy.
I drew a straight line but it goes over some impressive (to this Florida
boy) mountains. Any wisdom out there? I generally like to have a landing
spot in mind as I tootle along, goes back to my hang gliding days. Should I
take the long way around, or climb up and over? Also, if I break up the
trip I'll need a place to overnight Friday in North Central Georgia. If
anyone has any suggestions for a place to camp or a nice airport/hotel
combination, I'd be grateful for the advice.
Hope to see everybody at 3KY2.
Duncan McBride
Mark III 319DM, 912
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb fly-in
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Steven/All:
>
> We may see you along the route somewhere.
>
> Keep your eyes open for a gaggle of Kolbs coming from the
> west, the a gaggle of Kolbs coming from the east. That'll
> probably be us.
>
> john h
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| Subject: | Re: kid at Christmas |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Harrrrr................now the fun starts ! ! ! Have at 'er, amigo. :-)
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: kid at Christmas
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> Today is a great day! After returning from lunch one of my employee's
said "UPS left a bunch of stuff for you in the back" So I rushed back to
check it out and there they were. To big boxes full of airplane parts, all
in tact and no damage! Heart racing, I opened each box and plundered
through. I will wait until tonight to do a check in of all the parts. Man
after all this waiting it seems I'm finally a Kolb owner.
>
> pp snif....snif.....
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: kid at Christmas |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Naw..................yer arm will tell ya all about 'em. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kid at Christmas
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> yeah pretty neat!!! 3150 rivets wow. think I should count em?
>
> pp
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kid at Christmas
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> >
> > > Man after all this
> > > waiting it seems I'm finally a Kolb owner.
> > >
> > > pp snif....snif.....
> >
> > Paul/All:
> >
> > Wow!!! :-)
> >
> > john h
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Owner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
One thing I might add after reading some of the other comments. Some
are calling for "cutting" the throttle just before touch down.
Although I agree with the earlier part about flying through the whole
approach and flare with a small bit of power, I think "cutting" the
power, or doing any other control input suddenly is not good. Sudden
changes lead to too much of a change and then potentially over
controlling some other input. Heck, if a Kolb is approaching and
flaring at 25% power, it will also land at 25% power, and at that, have
a little more prop flow over the tail feathers. Only down side is a
little more runway, which in these planes is rarely a problem.
-Ben
...thinking a bit about first flights myself. Almost took my FS to
the airport last night, but trailer lights were screwy after sitting in
the weather for 3 years. Will probably just play it conservative and
wait till Sat morning. Ready to go tho. :)
do not archive
--- Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
>
> The Firestar is a very nicely mannered ultralight; it has no bad
> habits. I would recommend (strongly) that you take a lesson in any
> other dual ultralight. I assume the Powered Parachute flies and
> handles quite differently, and the C-172 is too fast and heavy to
> give
> you the cues needed in the Firestar. Getting just one lesson in a
> light wing-loading airplane (any ultralight trainer) would be $50
> well
> spent IMO. Lots of things are easy once you know how to do them.
> -Ben Ransom
> Firestar KXP
>
> --- "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net> wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > I recently purchased a Kolb Firestar I with a 377 Rotax and BRS
> > system. My aviation background is 150 hours of Powered Parachute
> > flying with a Basic Flight Instructor license, 40 hours of ground
> > school for private pilot license, and 15 hours in a Cessna 172. I
> > bought the Firestar because I wanted a safe ultralight that was
> > relatively easy to fly. All my research pointed me to the
> Firestar.
> >
> > Initially I was very confident in being able to transition to the
> > Firestar. I've spent a few hours practicing high speed taxi runs
> and
> > ground maneuvering while waiting for an evening with little wind.
> > I've read everything I can about the Kolb, including the owners
> > manual. I fully understand that you fly the Firestar to the ground
> > without flare at about 40 mph and maintain your airspeed while
> > inflight at about 45-50 mph. As I said, I felt very confident with
> my
> > ability and other GA instructors and pilots tell me I'd have no
> > problem. However, the previous owner talks about the Firestar as
> if
> > it were a "widow maker" and insisting I receive several hours of
> dual
> > instruction in a Kolb, (something I have not been able to find
> around
> > SW Wisconsin). While getting as much experience is always best, at
> > some point I feel that you have to get the Firestar off the ground
> to
> > advance the flying technique of a particular aircraft. Any
> comments?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
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>
> __________________________________
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>
>
>
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>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Duncan McBride wrote:
> I drew a straight line but it goes over some impressive (to this Florida
> boy) mountains. Any wisdom out there? If
> anyone has any suggestions for a place to camp or a nice airport/hotel
> combination, I'd be grateful for the advice.
Duncan/All:
The straight line method is my preferred method since flying
with the 912's. After flying over the Sierra Nevada's at
14,500 feet with my 912S, I don't think you would have any
problem doing the eastern mountains.
As far as RON goes, I sleep on the field where ever that
might be when the flying day is done.
Be looking for you at the Kolb Flyin.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Kit on order |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
WElcome DL to the Kolb List....As you are building that bird..you will soon
find that this list will help you with questions more than any other
resource you can lay your hands on..This group represents more Kolb
expierience than you can imagine...and its right at your fingertips...day or
nite!
Good luck and happy building!
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: MKII Twinstar legs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Charlie...
I had this problem with the axle/leg fittings supplied on my FireFly...1st
taxi test it was a real rabbit chaser...lucky I didnt pile it up.
Here is how I solved the problem.
I loaded the seat with 225 lbs....then rolled the aircraft back and forth a
bit to settle the legs into the approxamate "squat" that would simulate the
attitude with me and fuel in it. What I did then was measure the resulting
angle of the wheel from vertical....which was very apparant..12 degrees if I
remember right....then as I made new fittings..I simply added that amout of
angle to what ever the "as supplied " fittings were...worked like
champ..and now I can run at 25 to 30 mph with the wheel on the ground and
tail high and it tracks true.
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com
In a message dated 9/10/03 8:42:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
duncanmcbride@comcast.net writes:
> I drew a straight line but it goes over some impressive (to this Florida
> boy) mountains. Any wisdom out there? I generally like to have a landing
> spot in mind as I tootle along, goes back to my hang gliding days. Should I
> take the long way around, or climb up and over?
Duncan,
I prefer landable terrain under me as I fly also. If you fly into
Andrews-Murphy you will be over some rough ground. I flew into Andrews once, to
go to
an FAA safety seminar, and flew up hwy. 64 which follows the Ocoee River where
the Olympic white water events were held a few years ago.
When I flew to S&F from Athens, TN (MMI) I flew direct to Dalton, GA (DNN)
and then headed southeast to get around Atlanta. It was pretty flat from there
to Lakeland.
From Athens to London I pickup Hwy. 27 at Rockwood, TN and follow it to Pine
Knot, KY then follow that valley over to I75 Just south of Corbin.
When I think about the cost and hours of work to repair a damaged plane not
to mention the cost to retrieve a plane that is in the trees 40 miles from the
nearest road I makes my detours a lot easier to tolerate. If it is brown on
the sectional I want a 4 lane under me.
Just call me chicken Steven
MKIII
Only 1 engine failure
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Best way across the mountains from Ft. Myers? Since we are used to them, we
take it for granted, but if you are not used to mountains, early in the day
is better for turbulence, and I would go to Hendersonville, NC, it is
homebuilt friendly, then go around the class D at Ashville NC, then NW up
the French Broad River valley parallel HWY 70, then across just a few low
mountains to Greenville TN, then on to LOZ and Chestnut Knolls. The worst
part (not for mountains) is about the time you get abeam of Middlesboro,
KY, because there is almost no place to land north of there for about 25
miles. Rough country.
Suggest not to go east of Ashville over Mount Mitchell & northward, the
Mount Mitchell area can be bad news for turbulence.
Greenville TN, Hawkins County TN, and Middlesboro KY are all user friendly
toward us little guys.
Hope to see you there.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
At 08:49 PM 9/10/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
>
>Hey, I'm going to see if I can get up there from Ft. Myers, Florida. I just
>converted the 637 nautical miles to statute and I think it will take two
>days, even with good weather. Thing is, I was already planning a trip up
>to meet some friends and go camping on Sunday - landing at Murphy-Andrews
>100+ miles south, so if I can get away a day early, like Friday, and the
>weather cooperates, I'll fly in Saturday and camp at the field. This is
>exciting. I bought my first Atlanta sectional, and now it looks like I need
>Cincinatti. Oboy.
>
>I drew a straight line but it goes over some impressive (to this Florida
>boy) mountains. Any wisdom out there? I generally like to have a landing
>spot in mind as I tootle along, goes back to my hang gliding days. Should I
>take the long way around, or climb up and over? Also, if I break up the
>trip I'll need a place to overnight Friday in North Central Georgia. If
>anyone has any suggestions for a place to camp or a nice airport/hotel
>combination, I'd be grateful for the advice.
>
>Hope to see everybody at 3KY2.
>
>Duncan McBride
>Mark III 319DM, 912
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb fly-in
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> > Steven/All:
> >
> > We may see you along the route somewhere.
> >
> > Keep your eyes open for a gaggle of Kolbs coming from the
> > west, the a gaggle of Kolbs coming from the east. That'll
> > probably be us.
> >
> > john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cables in boom tube |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I crossed my cables outside the tube . It was a lot easier.
>
> I dont know about the extra but on the clasic it seems that the rudder
cables go on top of the H and they have to cross inside the tube...the
elevator cables go on the bottom of the H. if in doubt pull them tight
and see.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
Anybody know where I can get a replacement recoil spring for the Rotax 377 on my
Firestar. Can't seem to find anything online.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
I will be pitching a Tent ... what will the majority be doing ?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Just finished the inventory of the first shipment. Boy lots of parts that don't
match the pick list.
Anyone that is flying to the Kolb fly in from south Fla. ect.. that needs a stop
over we have a strip and a cabin.
cords are...
N32:02:022
W089:27:318
Numbers are 601-782-4506 601-782-9958 601-782-4523
Welcome all
pp
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
J.L.Turner wrote:
> Anybody know where I can get a replacement recoil spring
> for the Rotax 377 on my Firestar.
JL/All:
Ya'll correct me if I am wrong, but I think all the recoil
starters are the same. A 503 should fit a 377. Cross check
part numbers from one of the Rotax web sites.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
BMWBikeCrz@aol.com wrote:
> I will be pitching a Tent ... what will the majority be doing ?
BMW/All:
Most of us will be roughing it. We usually camp over on the
south side of the airstrip on what looks like a N/S taxiway.
Come on over and join us.
john h
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| Subject: | Michigan Fall Color Tour |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
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Dear Fellow Kolbers, particularly those in or near SE Michigan:
We're planning another trip "round the thumb" of Michigan, as we did last spring.
The route this time will be slightly different to accommodate a chance to see
some fall colors, combined with a little coastline flying as well.
Last time, I received several messages from pilots on this list who indicated that
they would have liked to participate, but weren't notified. So, here's the
notification to anyone who would like to participate, flying a Kolb is not required.
The date of the flight is Saturday, October 4th, starting at our list pal, Kirk
Smith's place near Columbiaville, making about 6 fuel stops and winding up at
Marlette Airport about 5pm that day, allowing a couple of hours of sunlight to
get you back to your home base or a suitable bellying up location.
If you're interested, please contact me off list, and I'll see that you get the
details.
kfackler@ameritech.net
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: Kit on order |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 12:04 AM 9/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Derek Lawrence"
><Derek@prestwoodpetcrematorium.co.uk>
>
>Hi all
>
>I intend to fit a Rotax 582 with a C gearbox 3.47 and Arplast 3 blade prop
>though this might change with experience.
>For now I will wish you all good flying to the Kolb flyin and dream of the
>big day
>Derek Lawrence
I want an "Arplast 3 blade" when I wear my engine out (about 90 more hours).
How much do they "really" cost? I've seen them priced at about $1,400.
They really are quite on the trikes.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
been visiting with some on the list and it seems the concensus is that with the
exception of gambling there is not much to do at jackpot...
Erich weaver mentioned
Ya know, old BJ Moore had a good plan on that original trip, at least as far as
the places to go to. A trip from say Moab to Beaver with Monument Valley as
a pit stop would be hard to beat for scenery. Or perhaps do it in reverse order.
Hmmmmm....
the original trip was planned a year ago last sept and was to cover 4 days with
about 150 miles or so between stops each night. if i remember corectly it
was starting in beaver then to moab, monument valley,over hells backbone to bryces
national park, back to beaver and home.
on the second day we got chaised out of the area by aproaching thunderstorms,,
Erich stayed over at the motel an extra night and reported a wonderful flight
over archesnational monument and dead horse point state park.
How does this sound to everyone.
boyd
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