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1. 04:17 AM - Re: copper state (Dave Rains)
2. 04:49 AM - Kitty Hawk/TNK Fly-In (John Williamson)
3. 01:33 PM - Re: Minimum octane gas (Richard Pike)
4. 02:34 PM - 447 rotax air cleaner (Kirk Smith)
5. 03:32 PM - Re: 447 rotax air cleaner (ul15rhb@juno.com)
6. 05:50 PM - Re: Stop Over 300 mi so of london ??? (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
7. 05:55 PM - Re: Minimum octane gas (HShack@aol.com)
8. 07:08 PM - Kitty Hawk/Londond (John Hauck)
9. 07:45 PM - Re: Stop Over 300 mi so of london ??? (Richard Swiderski)
10. 07:45 PM - alcohol (Bob Bean)
11. 08:36 PM - first part (Paul Petty)
12. 08:49 PM - Re: Firestar II Questions aka dihedral (Bob N.)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
I'll ask Will, but we are probably only coming for one day. A very gracious offer
though! I'll let you know.
Best Regards,
Dave
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From: CRAIG M NELSON [SMTP:vitalfx0@msn.com]
Subject: Kolb-List: copper state
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "CRAIG M NELSON" <vitalfx0@msn.com>
Dave and Will do you guys have a place to stay when you come to copper state? You
can stay with me I'll ride ya up en back.
Uncle Craig
mark III ex 912 ULS
Arizona
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| Subject: | Kitty Hawk/TNK Fly-In |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
It's still dark outside but the weather looks good for today. Should be in the
air shortly and on the way to AL.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, SN: 008, Jabiru 2200, 446 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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| Subject: | Re: Minimum octane gas |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Go to your Google search engine, type in "octane burn hotter" and read the
results. (A good mix of ignorant and informed...)
It would be interesting to run a tank of 93 octane through my 582 and see
if there are any differences in EGT's. I have run it on the recommended 87
octane for 22 hours now, and EGT's stay right at 1150. Wonder what it would
do with a tankful of 93 octane?
I do think it interesting that my old 532 ran smoother than the 582 does,
and it was always run on 93 octane. Wonder if there is any connection?
For a great technical article on gasoline, oils, and alcohol, go to the
Group K page (they are a high performance jet ski shop, so their engines
are related to ours)
Richard Pike
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At 08:42 AM 9/22/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
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>I told the other Rotax engine usuers at my field about the discussions on
>the list about how the recommended octane to use is minimum 87. The general
>feeling was that all that means is that you should use a "MINIMUM" 87and
>it was
>better to use higher than that. My question is , is there any benifit to
>running higher than 87 octane? Someone said the lower octane burns
>hotter. (is that
>what we want?) Does the higher octane burn cleaner?
>I guess at this point we all agree to use Minimum 87 . Is there any reason to
>burn mid grade or high test?
>
>Fly safe
>Bob Griffin
>
>
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| Subject: | 447 rotax air cleaner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
What do you use to clean the air filter on the 447 rotax and do you oil it afterword?
Thanks! Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: 447 rotax air cleaner |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:36:43 -0500 "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
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> What do you use to clean the air filter on the 447 rotax and do you
> oil it afterword? Thanks! Kirk
Kirk,
Soak it in a solution of dishwashing liquid and water for a day or two.
Remove and let air dry for two days. Oil with K&N filter oil and install.
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar
16 years flying it
The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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| Subject: | Re: Stop Over 300 mi so of london ??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
I am driving up from florida Any one have tent space about 300 to 350 mile
south of London KY ...Near I-75 ? Thanks ... Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Minimum octane gas |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 9/22/03 8:44:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Airgriff2@aol.com writes:
> I guess at this point we all agree to use Minimum 87 . Is there any reason
> to
> burn mid grade or high test?
>
> Fly safe
> Bob Griffin
>
>
>
Bob, about 150 hours ago I went from using 92 octane Amoco Premium to 87
octane any kind as long as it was a busy pump; I didn't have any problems except
that during the real hot months from idle to 3000 rpm I noticed some "4
stroking".
Don Zank recommended going to 89 octane if temps over 70 F., also to change
the idle jets from 45 to 40 [leaner] during hot months. I have followed that
advice & my engine [a 503 dual carb] runs much better at the lower rpm's.
About November I go back to 87 octane & 45's.
Shack
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Kitty Hawk/Londond |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Gang:
Miss P'fer is loaded/fueled and ready to roll out of the
hanger at o'dark thirty in the morning.
There is a Kolbra and two MK III's at Wetumpka Airport
patiently waiting for their pilots to return so they can
head out to Kitty Hawk in the morning. I'll fly the 11 sm
over to Wetumpka to join up with the other three.
Should be on schedule. Weather looks good. Will have a
head wind from the N and NE.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Stop Over 300 mi so of london ??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@rocketjet.net>
Dave,
I tried to look you up on http://www.springeraviation.net/database.html
but no luck. What part of FL are you from? If you are driving past SR 484
exit, just south of Ocala on I-75, you are invited to stop by for a pit
stop. I'm only 2 miles east. Coffee & Kolb tour are free. Toilet is
$0.05/flush.
Anyone flying by has same offer. You're welcome to land on the 4000ft
east/west grass strip here at Monroe Airstrip.
Richard Swiderski
352-307-9009
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From: <BMWBikeCrz@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stop Over 300 mi so of london ???
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
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> I am driving up from florida Any one have tent space about 300 to 350 mile
> south of London KY ...Near I-75 ? Thanks ... Dave
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
fuel braumeisters, alcohol is a vague term. First off I'm not a
chemist. Ethyl alcohol,
derived these days mostly from corn sugar is the stuff that we consume
internally,
or at least some gargle. It's also the stuff, due to politics, that is
stuck in a lot of
gasoline. It does have some antiknock value reduced by it's ability to
harbor some
quantities of corrosive H2O. It's energy per volume is less than gasoline.
In the olden days when I was a fan of dragracing, methyl alcohol,
derived from
petroleum was used as a major constituent of fuel mixes. The guys on
tour, to save
their engines would use nearly straight methanol for exhibition runs
because it
ran cool and saved those expensive engines. The real competition was at home
at Lion's dragstrip or Orange county in the winter when grudge racing
brought
out the heavy juices, or "tip the can". It's been a while since I've
followed the
sport but I know things have really progressed since then.
Neither form of alcohol will overheat or overstress an engine, my only
concern
would be with certain fuel system components and long term storage
corrosion.
-So I generally look for pumps that display their lack of it. -BB do
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Tonight I completed the first part of my Kolb. The right horz. stab.Did 2 hrs of
ground school at the airport and rushed home after receiving the correct tubing
from Kolb and 2.5 hrs of work finished the stab. Boy what a great feeling
to finish a part. Now on to the left. We will be heading out Friday morning for
the fly in. Looking forward to meeting everyone there. Charley and myself will
be bringing 2 guest Johnny Dees and Steve Sullivan (Ran's Fan's) Hope to convert
them to Kolb folk's over the weekend. Weather is looking good. Hope all
have a safe trip. Again if any southern travelers need a place to stop over all
are welcome.
pp
see ya there!
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Questions aka dihedral |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
It is like anhedral, only hanging upwrds.
Bob N.
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