Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 09/29/03


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:05 AM - Re: seat belts (Larry Bourne)
     2. 12:49 AM - Re: Fly in (Kirk Smith)
     3. 05:40 AM - Re: nose bowl (Daniel Walter)
     4. 06:23 AM - Horz elev Mk III xtra (James, Ken)
     5. 08:27 AM - Re: Understanding (jerb)
     6. 08:49 AM - Re: Horz elev Mk III xtra (Larry Bourne)
     7. 08:53 AM - Re: Understanding (Larry Bourne)
     8. 09:13 AM - Re: Understanding (John Hauck)
     9. 11:00 AM - Re: Horz elev Mk III xtra (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
    10. 11:20 AM - no chrome (Paul Petty)
    11. 11:51 AM - Engine Question (J.L.Turner)
    12. 12:55 PM - Re: no chrome (Bob Bean)
    13. 01:13 PM - Re: no chrome (jerb)
    14. 02:09 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 09/28/03 (boyd young)
    15. 02:09 PM - Well, another typical reply (boyd young)
    16. 02:09 PM - Re: Horz elev Mk III xtra (James, Ken)
    17. 03:20 PM - Re: Well, another typical reply (tony webster)
    18. 05:03 PM - Kolb list Fly-In (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
    19. 05:35 PM - Re: Engine Question (Don Gherardini)
    20. 06:05 PM - Re: no chrome (Paul Petty)
    21. 06:07 PM - Kitty Hawk Trip and Fly-in (SGreenpg@aol.com)
    22. 07:22 PM - Cheap instument (Bob N.)
    23. 07:30 PM - Re: no chrome (Woody)
    24. 10:47 PM - Re: RAD intercom and ICOM A5 ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:05:52 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: seat belts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Yah, long way down, isn't it, Bob ?? I felt the same way when I started ultralight lessons in a 2 seat Beaver. Leaned out without thinking once to look when a hawk (not John) flew under us, and when the belt came tight, and I realized what I was doing, nearly cr - uh - you know........?? It takes a little getting used to, but gets to be fun. Been There Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net> Subject: Kolb-List: seat belts > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> > > cordial friends, since I hadn't yet created doors, and may not for > awhile, I really > cinched in good for those maiden flights. My navel wouldn't have moved > much more > than a quarter inch in a rollover. Makes you think about all those > fearless souls > who used to ride in open cockpit planes with just a lap belt. -oops, where'd > Wilbur go? Still not quite comfy with the view out the side but a big > thrill (on > a nice warm summer day). -BB > >


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    Time: 12:49:11 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: Fly in
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> ". Ever have a blow out in a 40' motor home doing 80mph? " I'm just glad the idiot didn't kill some innocent people. Do not archive!


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    Time: 05:40:23 AM PST US
    From: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@paonline.com>
    Subject: Re: nose bowl
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@paonline.com> Ron, I used a FireStar nose cone Which turned out well, It did change the trim greatly and may have increased the stall speed, I'll post some pictures as soon as I get some Dan Walter Fredericksburg PA Ultrastar, 10DEW UL1102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net> Subject: Kolb-List: nose bowl > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net> > > anyone know of a nosebowl that will fit a ultrastar with room for a couple of instruments > >


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    Time: 06:23:53 AM PST US
    From: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
    Subject: Horz elev Mk III xtra
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com> Horz elev Mk III xtra I'm back building after a long lay off, I need to do the Horz elevator, I was looking at the plans and some pic's I found on the web. The bottom stringer run front to back, the plans show the tops stringers run front to back just up to the trailing edge. I saw several pics on the web where people had shortened the tops stringer to about mid lenght? Did your plans show you that, mine don't? Also there was a web site by Milow? had some greats pic on in can't find it now anyone know who it was? If any one has digital pics of thier Horz elev ( unskinned ) Mk III xtra I would like to see them just email them to Kdjames@berkscareer.com Thanks Ken


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    Time: 08:27:36 AM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Understanding
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> John H, What do your know about any change being in the FireStar control design by Kolb. Is this true. Has Kolb made any change since and as a result of Ron's input? jerb At 05:45 PM 9/28/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron or Mary" <whyme@vci.net> > >I don't post much on this list anymore but I felt that I had to say >something. I understand Mikes frustration in his posts. I used to post my >opinion on things that I thought would be of interest to Kolb builders. >After finding what I thought was a flaw in the control design of the new >FireStar and FireStar and could not get any one in Kolb to discuss it with >me, I posted my concerns to this list. Many of you may remember this >subject. I was then threatened with legal action by Kolb as they said I >was guilty of slander so I shut up. They since have changed their controls >to my design. Also after expressing an honest opinion different from the >resident guru of the list, and I am sure you know who this is, I was >threatened with physical violence. My opinion may also not be judged as >appropriate for the list but so be it. These are the things that kill what >started off as a good thing for all. > >Ron Payne > >


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    Time: 08:49:43 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Horz elev Mk III xtra
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> My blueprints are up with Vamoose, so I can't look at them right now, but I built ALL structural components exactly to the plans. The only pic I have of the horizontal tail is on my website, under "Building Vamoose/Bending Metal." It's not too clear (that was one of my 1st pages) but I hope it helps. Good Luck.............I know full well what it's like to stop and get started again - repeatedly. :-) Sweaty Lar - Still Waiting for it to Cool Off. (and going on camper trips out of this hotbox) Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Horz elev Mk III xtra > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com> > > Horz elev Mk III xtra > > I'm back building after a long lay off, I need to do the Horz elevator, I > was looking at the plans and some pic's I found on the web. The bottom > stringer run front to back, the plans show the tops stringers run front to > back just up to the trailing edge. I saw several pics on the web where > people had shortened the tops stringer to about mid lenght? > > Did your plans show you that, mine don't? > > Also there was a web site by Milow? had some greats pic on in can't find it > now anyone know who it was? > > If any one has digital pics of thier Horz elev ( unskinned ) Mk III xtra I > would like to see them just email them to > > Kdjames@berkscareer.com > > Thanks > > > Ken > >


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    Time: 08:53:35 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Understanding
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Guess my name isn't John, but I sure do remember Ron's concerns with his controls. As I recall, it had something to do with component interference at full travel. Anyone out there with a better memory ?? Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Understanding > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> > > John H, > What do your know about any change being in the FireStar control design by > Kolb. Is this true. Has Kolb made any change since and as a result of > Ron's input? > jerb > > > At 05:45 PM 9/28/03 -0500, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron or Mary" <whyme@vci.net> > > > >I don't post much on this list anymore but I felt that I had to say > >something. I understand Mikes frustration in his posts. I used to post my > >opinion on things that I thought would be of interest to Kolb builders. > >After finding what I thought was a flaw in the control design of the new > >FireStar and FireStar and could not get any one in Kolb to discuss it with > >me, I posted my concerns to this list. Many of you may remember this > >subject. I was then threatened with legal action by Kolb as they said I > >was guilty of slander so I shut up. They since have changed their controls > >to my design. Also after expressing an honest opinion different from the > >resident guru of the list, and I am sure you know who this is, I was > >threatened with physical violence. My opinion may also not be judged as > >appropriate for the list but so be it. These are the things that kill what > >started off as a good thing for all. > > > >Ron Payne > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:13:10 AM PST US
    From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Understanding
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > John H, What do your know about any change being in the > FireStar control design by Kolb. Is this true. Has Kolb > made any change since and as a result of Ron's input? > jerb jerb/All: Only what I read on the Kolb List. Recommend direct contact with Ray Brown, who is now running the factory. I personally know of no Firestar control problem that has caused an accident/incident other than one induced by the operator. Perhaps someone else on the List does. I do know that Kolb improves their kits as improvements are recognized, required, and available. john h


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    Time: 11:00:22 AM PST US
    From: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@motorola.com>
    Subject: Horz elev Mk III xtra
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@motorola.com> Ken, I can relate what the "Milow" web site showed, because I am Milow. We (my uncle and myself) made our elevators out of the same leading and trailing edge tubing called for in the specs. But instead of using the same small "trailing edge" tubing for the stringer ribs, we used 2024_T3 sheet material. It makes for a cleaner and lighter installation. Though you will need access to a shear and brake to form the sheet material into ribs. I had made the original Firestar II elevators exactly to spec and built a second custom made elevators with our custom sheet material ribs and weighed both before covering. The custom elevator (one) came out 4 ounces lighter then the spec'd elevator, so that is a combined savings of a half pound in the tail, not including the saved weight of the customized rudder. And covering the control surfaces was much much easier because of the absence of the "Homer bumps". I am sure the wear and tear on the surfaces will be minimal due to the absence of these bumps as well. As for the Kolb Specified stringers (ribs) in the control surfaces question, all the plans I have seen-Firestar II, Firefly and MarkIII show that they end midway to the trailing edge. For the top stringers to go back all the way just short of the trailing edge tube is new. I (personally) would call light speed aviaton, the folks who do the quick builds and ask them how they do it. That extra tubing will make the elevator stronger? Weigh more? Weaker- due to two rivets drilled so close together? Something to think about. Tim "Milow" Gherkins PS- Our "Milows" web site is still down due to funds, time and energy going into gettting our two planes up in the air as soon as possible. -----Original Message----- From: James, Ken [mailto:KDJames@berkscareer.com] Subject: Kolb-List: Horz elev Mk III xtra --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com> Horz elev Mk III xtra I'm back building after a long lay off, I need to do the Horz elevator, I was looking at the plans and some pic's I found on the web. The bottom stringer run front to back, the plans show the tops stringers run front to back just up to the trailing edge. I saw several pics on the web where people had shortened the tops stringer to about mid lenght? Did your plans show you that, mine don't? Also there was a web site by Milow? had some greats pic on in can't find it now anyone know who it was? If any one has digital pics of thier Horz elev ( unskinned ) Mk III xtra I would like to see them just email them to Kdjames@berkscareer.com Thanks Ken


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    Time: 11:20:13 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: no chrome
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Kolbers, Any of you know why the FAA does not allow the chroming of aircraft parts? I called Ray at TNK and he didn't know so I then called Graves plating and they told me that they can no longer plate aircraft parts because the FAA came to them and said no no. Does it cause the alloy to weaken? hmmmm.... first big idea I had shot down in a blaze of glory.... darn it... pp do not archive


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    Time: 11:51:25 AM PST US
    From: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net>
    Subject: Engine Question
    Received: ...with SMTP id h8TIpGv01184\n\t\234Mon, 29 Sep 200... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.L.Turner" <jimturner@mwt.net> Can you engine pros tell me what is meant when the refer to an engine or engine part with the word "provisional"? Jim Turner 377 BRS Firestar


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    Time: 12:55:24 PM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: no chrome
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> It's called hydrogen embrittlement......google that or chrome plating embrittlement. -BB Paul Petty wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > >Kolbers, >Any of you know why the FAA does not allow the chroming of aircraft parts? I called Ray at TNK and he didn't know so I then called Graves plating and they told me that they can no longer plate aircraft parts because the FAA came to them and said no no. Does it cause the alloy to weaken? > >hmmmm.... first big idea I had shot down in a blaze of glory.... darn it... > >pp >do not archive > > > >


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    Time: 01:13:25 PM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: no chrome
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> May make a difference of what parts of an aircraft your trying to chrome. Be more specific. At 01:23 PM 9/29/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > >Kolbers, >Any of you know why the FAA does not allow the chroming of aircraft parts? >I called Ray at TNK and he didn't know so I then called Graves plating and >they told me that they can no longer plate aircraft parts because the FAA >came to them and said no no. Does it cause the alloy to weaken? > >hmmmm.... first big idea I had shot down in a blaze of glory.... darn it... > >pp >do not archive > >


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    Time: 02:09:07 PM PST US
    From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 09/28/03
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> > I am trying to setup a RAD intercom with an ICOM A5 > radio in a FirestarII with 503,CDI ignition. I have a > nearly perfectly tuned external antenna and can power > the equipment with their own batteries or engine > power. > > The system seems to work fine electronically but when > the engine is running I can't get out a receivable > transmission. The ambient engine sound nearly > completely overpowers the mike and the receiver hears > a lot of engine and a little voice. ---------------------------------------------------- ok i have re read the message and finaly figured outwhat it was trying to tell me... i was on vacation last weekend and was tired when i was reading. if the transmissions are garbeled with engine noise ,,,, the first thing i would do is to see if the mike gains can be turned down.... if not see if there is a high noise mike that can be used inplace of the ones you now have. i had the same problem and in trying to solve the problem i tried hi density mike mufs,( it helped some but did not solve the problem ) but in the end i changed the mike elements on the pilot headsets... and on the new noise canceling headsets i had to reduce the mike gain. also some intercome do not tolerate the high noise levels well.... so choose a intercom that will handel the higher noise level you are working in. sigtronics spo22-n seems to work real well..... after reducing the mike gains to the min. i had some problems in that the intercom volume was low... with a call to sigtronics we were able to come up with a fix and i am very happy with the results. if you have further problems let me know on or off list boyd


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    Time: 02:09:07 PM PST US
    From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
    Subject: Well, another typical reply
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> Hey Guys, Well, another typical reply....Nobody answers the question but I get plenty of smart #$% answers.... this is one of the reasons that I'm going to atempt to make my next project a Witman -Tailwind....you guys have showed me ( by not helping) that I can do it without much help.... Fire away Mike I do not know how long you have been on the list and I guess that it does not matter... if you had been on for a while you would know that every year or so ( plus or minus ) there is a long debate on which oil to use...... I believe there are some who just get tired of it and dont want to start another oil ( debate, war, whatever you want to call it.) so they remain silent rather than stir up a hornets nest. personally I have a 4 stroke engine and dont have any input on the subject that would be of any help to you.. if you would go to the bottom of any kolb list message and go to the link http://www.matronics.com/archives you may have to follow the page down a link or two to get to the kolb pages... enter the word "oil" in the search window you will find hundreds of messages about the subject. you can have the messages displayed in oldest or newest messages first.... if after going through the messages in the archive ( and go back a year or two ) { and it may take a while} there is a very good chance you will find what you want........ if you dont find what you need with the search word "oil" try "tc-w3" or another term that may help you narrow the search. then if you dont find what you need: then if you were to ask a very specific question i am sure that an answer would be forthcoming. let the list know of the research you have done in trying to find the answer.. it seems that the more you put into the list the more you will get out.... remember the old saying,,, you will gather more bees with honey than viniger. remember that the people on the list come and go...... and the person that knows the answer to your question may be on vacation, out on a cross contry trip, or his / her computer may have crashed. dont lable everybody elce in your frustration. boyd do not archive


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    Time: 02:09:33 PM PST US
    From: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
    Subject: Horz elev Mk III xtra
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com> Thanks for the reply, Can you zip your pics and sen them to me? Thanks Ken


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    Time: 03:20:20 PM PST US
    From: tony webster <caw@nctc.com>
    Subject: Re: Well, another typical reply
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: tony webster <caw@nctc.com> you know if i was you i would just get off the list would save you a lot of stress and maybe a heart attack boyd young wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> > > Hey Guys, > Well, another typical reply....Nobody answers the question but I get plenty > of smart #$% answers.... this is one of the reasons that I'm going to atempt > to make my next project a Witman -Tailwind....you guys have showed me ( by > not helping) that I can do it without much help.... > Fire away > > Mike > I do not know how long you have been on the list and I guess that it does not matter... if you had been on for a while you would know that every year or so ( plus or minus ) there is a long debate on which oil to use...... I believe there are some who just get tired of it and dont want to start another oil ( debate, war, whatever you want to call it.) so they remain silent rather than stir up a hornets nest. personally I have a 4 stroke engine and dont have any input on the subject that would be of any help to you.. > > if you would go to the bottom of any kolb list message and go to the link http://www.matronics.com/archives > you may have to follow the page down a link or two to get to the kolb pages... enter the word "oil" in the search window you will find hundreds of messages about the subject. you can have the messages displayed in oldest or newest messages first.... if after going through the messages in the archive ( and go back a year or two ) { and it may take a while} there is a very good chance you will find what you want........ if you dont find what you need with the search word "oil" try "tc-w3" or another term that may help you narrow the search. > > then if you dont find what you need: then if you were to ask a very specific question i am sure that an answer would be forthcoming. let the list know of the research you have done in trying to find the answer.. it seems that the more you put into the list the more you will get out.... remember the old saying,,, you will gather more bees with honey than viniger. remember that the people on the list come and go...... and the person that knows the answer to your question may be on vacation, out on a cross contry trip, or his / her computer may have crashed. dont lable everybody elce in your frustration. > > boyd > > do not archive >


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    Time: 05:03:25 PM PST US
    From: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
    Subject: Kolb list Fly-In
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com I must say that my experience at the fly-in was most definitely awesome ...all my questions were answered and I mean all ! All my parts were there ...The Food was great !!! The planes were Fantastic ! The KOLBRA Flies like a dream !!! The millers are without a doubt the only people I would ever consider buying covering materials from ... There are so many people behind the scenes that I do not even know them all but their hard work to pull this thing off was evident everywhere !!! And Thanks to all the members of this list that I finally got to meet ! KOLB people give me faith in all that is good .... Thanks to all for allowing my Rant ! *********** Dave *************


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    Time: 05:35:25 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Jim, I'm not a rotax expert, very far from it in fact. But I believe that the word "provisional" is one that someone somewhere in the Rotax chain of distribution came up with to describe an engine that has been modified for use on our little airplanes. Now what all mods per model have been done..I sure dont know..but I do know that one of them is cutting threads in holes for the rotax gear reduction units, and a "non-provisional" engine has no provision for a gearbox to attach to. Someone else would surely know more...Tom Olenick for instance...front and center!!! Don Gherardini Sales / Engineering dept. American Honda Engines Power Equipment Company 800-626-7326


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    Time: 06:05:22 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Re: no chrome
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Kolbers, On the way back from the fly in and after many nudging me forward on the HD engine project, my wheels were turning thinking of this becoming a reality. Thinking or color schemes and a real performer, black and Harley orange comes to mind. The parts I would like to have chrome plated would be the tail post steel part, the aileron end's, the control rod's,,, basically all steel parts that would be normally painted with the exception of the fuselage and maybe even it. After reading the post for over a year and viewing many photos of builders I'm wanting to clean up the surfaces around the tail. Like instead of rivet's to attach the tail post to the boom tube, why not counter sunk stainless screws.Sure it's more work, but being a former show bike builder, the rewards for nice clean workmanship in the end is a nice reward. I'm sure many will say "Just build the plane any fly it" however, it's my money and my time that I am spending . Also, mod's and innovations to the world of "Experimental Aircraft" is what this is all about right? Otherwise one would just acquire a private pilot ticket and rent 150's on occasion to be able to enjoy flight. The new "Sport Pilot Rating" in my opinion, new to aviation, is going to inspire many pilots to that have lost their medical to return to flying. But furthermore, it will open a door to many that are, like myself, Be able to enjoy aviation on a limited budget. After talking with several metal experts today on the subject of chrome plating, the only thing that I have come to the conclusion on is that the plating is brittle and is acceptable to cracking. On that note I have come to the conclusion that painted surfaces have the same quality. After close inspection of "ends" or "edges" of control surfaces and hinged tangent points I have seen flaking at these areas. Can say this about chrome plating...Have never seen chrome plating do nothing but turn blue after being subjected who knows what kinda temps..... EXPERI/MENTAL ........ pp Kolbra 012 Black Bird Harley Powered ps Kirk EXCEPT NO MERCY!!!!!! e ----- From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: no chrome > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> > > May make a difference of what parts of an aircraft your trying to > chrome. Be more specific. > > > At 01:23 PM 9/29/03 -0500, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > > >Kolbers, > >Any of you know why the FAA does not allow the chroming of aircraft parts? > >I called Ray at TNK and he didn't know so I then called Graves plating and > >they told me that they can no longer plate aircraft parts because the FAA > >came to them and said no no. Does it cause the alloy to weaken? > > > >hmmmm.... first big idea I had shot down in a blaze of glory.... darn it... > > > >pp > >do not archive > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:07:27 PM PST US
    From: SGreenpg@aol.com
    Subject: Kitty Hawk Trip and Fly-in
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: SGreenpg@aol.com Kolb Gang, Just a few comments about the Kitty Hawk to Kolb adventure. First of all THANKS goes out to John W., John B., Gary H., and John H. for allowing me to be part of the trip. As John has already mentioned I met them at Elizabethtown, NC on Wednesday and we all stayed together until we departed Williamston, NC on Friday morning. I departed early due to being the slowest and arrived at London just minutes after Gary. We didn't get to stop at FFA due to the park being closed, at least thats what we thought. I just looked at the park website and the closing notice was removed about noon on Thursday and we were there about 3:30. Oh well. The fly-in was great. A big thanks to the New Kolb staff and Bruce for putting on a great event. The hospitality couldn't be better, only the weather could use some improvement. It was great to meet some of the listers and discuss airplane stuff and look at airplanes. I really enjoyed Old Poop's ATC talk and the Sunday morning service. The ride home Sunday evening was a little bumpy but slowing down a little made it some smoother. Trip stats. Miles round trip - 1244 Gallons of fuel burned - 106.13 Hours on the engine hobbs - 21.7 Average fuel burn - 4.89 GPH Average speed - 57.4 MPH (actual in flight avg. is higher) Fun had - off the scale Steven Green N58SG do not archive PS. Don't try to fly to England without using the aircraft carrier that is just off the coast!


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    Time: 07:22:14 PM PST US
    From: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
    Subject: Cheap instument
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net> Costco/Priceclub has a neat little box that has LCD compass, thermometer, baraometer, altimeter. Runs off internal batts or plugs into cigar lighter ( cable furnished)--$49.95 Bob N.


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    Time: 07:30:14 PM PST US
    From: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
    Subject: Re: no chrome
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Woody" <duesouth@govital.net> I think it is because the Chroming process introducees a hydrogen atom in there somehow and this causes the parts to become brittle. I have also heard that if you bake them in the oven for awhile it will get rid of that extra hydrogen. (don't forget to season, turn and baste) > Subject: Kolb-List: no chrome > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > Kolbers, > Any of you know why the FAA does not allow the chroming of aircraft parts? I called Ray at TNK and he didn't know so I then called Graves plating and they told me that they can no longer plate aircraft parts because the FAA came to them and said no no. Does it cause the alloy to weaken? > > hmmmm.... first big idea I had shot down in a blaze of glory.... darn it... > > pp > do not archive > >


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    Time: 10:47:08 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: RAD intercom and ICOM A5
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon LaVasseur > Hi Group, > > I am trying to setup a RAD intercom with an ICOM A5 > radio in a FirestarII with 503,CDI ignition. I have a > nearly perfectly tuned external antenna and can power > the equipment with their own batteries or engine > power. > > The system seems to work fine electronically but when > the engine is running I can't get out a receivable > transmission. The ambient engine sound nearly > completely overpowers the mike and the receiver hears > a lot of engine and a little voice. > > Does anyone have experience with this equipment and or > have any suggestions of how do adjust it to work > acceptably? > > Thanks for any help. Jon, I was just reviewing my RAD TAC-100 intercom directions, it mentions that adjusting the volume higher than needed will allow more engine and wind noise. Also check your threshhold adjustments, you should start out with both the pilot and copilot threshholds set to the detent position, to attenuate more backround noise turn them ccw from there, if they are turned full cw the noise attenuation circuitry will be turned off and the mikes will be completly live. If you are using an amplified cable to interface your intercom to your Icom, you may have to open up the face of your intercom and adjust the gain trim pot to the left to reduce gain. It is a yellow phillips screw potentiometer. I am using this intercom and dual headsets in a 2SI 690L-70 powered Mk-3 with the old Icom IA-21 Navcom. I have both threshholds set to the detent positions and the volumes set about midway. The radio volume is just a tad past the click "on" position, if I turn it any higher the receiver volume blows you out of your seat. I am using homemade patch cables to the radio and am getting Great results, this system is a real winner. If you have not talked to Tim Bruno at RAD yet give him a call at 920 787- 3572 or e-mail him at rad@wirural.net He will be able to help you get it right. Regards, Denny Rowe, L:eechburg, PA




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